Open 816: C9++ || Game Over

[SirCakez]

Wassup
VOTE: dwlee

[SirCakez]

VOTE: xheavenx

[SirCakez]

gypyx solve the game for me

[SirCakez]

Oh...Cakez....oh.....

What does this mean lol

[SirCakez]

Tigerente wagon should pick up steam because 1.) their profile picture is kind of a wagon and 2.) they haven't placed a vote which is a scum claim.

Pinged by this post
The conviction feels sorta faked?

[SirCakez]

My post about Gypyx solving for me was a joke I thought that was obvious /facepalm

[SirCakez]

@heaven
basically you feel like ~out of tune~ with this site's meta but i think that can just make you a new player and/or used to a different playing style
it's different and somewhat prickly but having a different pov on rvs doesn't make you scum

pedit @gamma idk what you mean / are trying to say

~ skitter

Your thoughtfulness here feels good to me. Maybe I'm reading that too early but I've been holding onto something else. Would it be bad practice here to think Cakez is scummy for his vote on me? I'm aware of how OMGUS works, but following his vote all he did was plead to the cleared townie to solve the game for them. It was just so pointless

In response to this

[SirCakez]

VOTE: SirCakez
I had fun with Tigerente but I want dessert

I'm a salted caramel cake
Complex but delicious and smooth

[SirCakez]

I love salted caramel you have no idea. You can't even blame me for voting you

No I can't

VOTE: SirCakez
I had fun with Tigerente but I want dessert

I'm a salted caramel cake
Complex but delicious and smooth

this is a lie

What does this mean?

[SirCakez]

why?

They felt terrible tonally

[SirCakez]

Dwlee probably town

Y?

~skitter

when dwlee rolls mafia I get the overwhelming urge to punch him in the face

What other games have you even played with him?

[SirCakez]

Yeah but it's really selfish you know? I think RVS has it's usage and I don't know why you couldn't have waited

Is that really an uncommon opinion here? I personally think it's better to let mostly everyone post before getting serious.

Yeah but it's really selfish you know? I think RVS has it's usage and I don't know why you couldn't have waited

i have a feeling this is a troll, but in case it's not:

(1) what (2) nothing waa forcing you to act upon my vote? you easily could've kept rvsing?

Both you and me gain nothing if I "pretend" to just keep RVSing though. You were the one to somehow get a beat on my alignment based on two posts yknow

@datisi these felt really uptight and overconcerned for no reason

[SirCakez]

Tigerente wagon should pick up steam because 1.) their profile picture is kind of a wagon and 2.) they haven't placed a vote which is a scum claim.

The second thing here reads to me like a legitimate reason you are pushing Tig
I've heard not placing a vote in RVS as a reason to SR someone before

[SirCakez]

also, a naked vote without acknowledging any of the discussion that was currently happening about/with heaven

- lilith

You know i don't always explain my thinking about things

[SirCakez]

also, a naked vote without acknowledging any of the discussion that was currently happening about/with heaven

- lilith

You know i don't always explain my thinking about things

is that all?

my vote stays.

- lilith

I did actually explain when Dwlee asked - I didn't like Heaven's tone
I think it's ridiculous that you're SRing me for something that I objectively play like regardless of alignment

[SirCakez]

I don't know what she's thinking she said she sees something else so idk Is rather just play forward. I don't think it makes her scummy if that's what you're implying.
P-edit: we have but not recently.

[SirCakez]

I actually wanted to this game but SOMEBODY asked first

[SirCakez]

Cakey do you think Town!Lilith could peg you as scum this early in D1?

Yeah probably she knows me pretty well

[SirCakez]

I hate when people pull "tells" on me and won't talk about them

[SirCakez]

Oh ok Lilith did
Idk i don't have a good answer to that. It just didn't come to my mind this game. It's been a little while since deja Vu was over.

[SirCakez]

I don't think you would enter pushing me as scum so I don't see a need to question your motivationd

[SirCakez]

Because as scum you could just pocket me again like in deja vu anyways

[SirCakez]

what about the period before I started pushing you....

- lilith

Like I said I had nothing to say about it or i would have lol

[SirCakez]

Cakey do you think Town!Lilith could peg you as scum this early in D1?

Yeah probably she knows me pretty well

do you think this is town lili or scum lili?

Lean more town atm don't think she takes this push as scum

[SirCakez]

cakez, do you have any reads other than heaven (and i guess lilith)?

Dwlee seems scummy
You seem townie for picking this fight with Lilith

Nothing else has grabbed me yet

[SirCakez]

Also if Lilith is scum here she could just keep the tell private and wag it around in my face to piss me off

[SirCakez]

Pooky never TRs me anyways lol

[SirCakez]

Cakey do you think Town!Lilith could peg you as scum this early in D1?

Yeah probably she knows me pretty well

do you think this is town lili or scum lili?

On my part I think I’m dealing with town!Lilith rn

Why answer this?

[SirCakez]

gypyx solve the game for me

Heaven claiming that this post was not a joke and I'm just making excuses now is batshit ridiculous

[SirCakez]

I'm 10 pages behind wheee

[SirCakez]

gypyx solve the game for me

Heaven claiming that this post was not a joke and I'm just making excuses now is batshit ridiculous

Honestly, probably
Do you think Heaven is scum for it?

Yeah it feels like he's pulling it out of his ass to OMGUS me

[SirCakez]

I'm multitasking dbd and mafia rn so posts will be erratic

[SirCakez]

I'm going through the last game and I do see:

but basically I'm waiting on Lilith to give me some of the usual town pings and I have not gotten any so far so they are sitting in don't like until I see what I want to see

So I do think the argument does have some merit.

I guess my point was I don't necessarily care about the absence of that in a bubble - I care more about the fact that he came back w/ "oh yeah it's cause I was townreading you for pushing me" rather than just "I hadn't gotten there" which would've been ok

-b

Yeah this comment came on page 12 Lilith seems to be expecting me to have posted something like on page 1 or 2

[SirCakez]

@heaven what’s your opinion on cakes voting you and our current discussion of whether it is scummy for me to be pushing cakes for it?

- lilith

Your own reasoning is fine but mine slightly differs. I don't like what cakez is doing because it's awkward. I said pointless earlier and then his response to that was that he was making a joke. Jokes usually require a bit of knowledge or even a setup but there I think he was just excusing himself. His words come out only at the concern of others and even then I just don't really believe him.

This is where Heaven implies i was not joking earlier

[SirCakez]

Cakez can be mad he is being pushed for what he believes are bad reasons and still be evil.

This is true ftr i got super pissed in Xenoblade 2 as scum lol

[SirCakez]

VOTE: A50

His posts seem so in-between everything going on, like he's almost trying to not take a side and wait for options to open up.

Also look at this
There was no commitment to his vote on me

[SirCakez]

Thinking emoji. This site needs emojis.

P-edit

WAGONS ARE GOOD

This probably makes Penguin town lol

[SirCakez]

VOTE: A50

His posts seem so in-between everything going on, like he's almost trying to not take a side and wait for options to open up.

Also look at this
There was no commitment to his vote on me

Ignore this i got my post orders mixed up heaven voted me after this not before

[SirCakez]

@heaven what’s your opinion on cakes voting you and our current discussion of whether it is scummy for me to be pushing cakes for it?

- lilith

Your own reasoning is fine but mine slightly differs. I don't like what cakez is doing because it's awkward. I said pointless earlier and then his response to that was that he was making a joke. Jokes usually require a bit of knowledge or even a setup but there I think he was just excusing himself. His words come out only at the concern of others and even then I just don't really believe him.

This is where Heaven implies i was not joking earlier

The only thing implied there is that even if you were joking, it's still an excuse.

An excuse for what?

[SirCakez]

Lilith i never question early game votes unless I smell bs behind them because
a) people usually can't/won't explain them
b) it usually provokes a dog pile wagon like "omg he's being defensive we caught scum"

[SirCakez]

Also I'm not sure why you have the impression I was TRing from page one bc that's not true. I didn't get that until you started prying at me. Before that I was just meh about it.

[SirCakez]

Ok

[SirCakez]

Datisi I'm confused how you're both sus of Lilith hydra and also calling me in potential scum team

[SirCakez]

Menalque seems scummy

[SirCakez]

Ok I'm caught up I'm just gonna drop this Heaven joke thing cuz it's not translating for me let's see what else happens

[SirCakez]

Because it was like 12 hours into the game?

[SirCakez]

And you literally hadn't posted anything but RVS

[SirCakez]

Because it was like 12 hours into the game?

And you literally hadn't posted anything but RVS

How is this game different from deja vu?

Who do you think is scum?

- lilith

I'm feeling a lot more chill here for starters because irl I'm done with school and not under a pile of work
And deja Vu had a lot more scum than this game

I already said dwlee and heaven seem scummy. I need more from my null pile like gamma, a50, jersey etc

[SirCakez]

Cakez do u have a read on me/my slot

~skitter

No

[SirCakez]

iirc umlaut being apathetic is a towntell???

[SirCakez]

Ok Datisi i misinterpreted your post about your team solve

[SirCakez]

hi sorry ill be here later today

[SirCakez]

has anyone noticed that Cakez has gone into witness protection and completely awoled

Has anyone noticed that I am literally not posting anywhere on site except for the game I am modding and obligated to post for ^.^
My mind is just not on mafia right now

[SirCakez]

And using that to push me is incredibly disingenuous because [redacted]

[SirCakez]

You're not wrong Penguin lol

[SirCakez]

Ok I'm back
reading now

[SirCakez]

Looking at pooky a little bit atm; I do like the way he brought up 360. I don't think it's something he had to do as scum here - I'm not really sure scum-pooky has any reason to really believe that I'm going to be so unelimable that he has to go a route where he's basically setting himself up to have to eventually townread me, especially considering I hadn't posted at all up until yesterday

That said I'm a little bit alarmed as to how hard he's going against cakez right now, it almost seems harder than lilith herself is and on some level I feel like explanations about confidence in lilith being town morphed into confidence in lilith being correct about cakez and I'd definitely like to untangle the two as far as where his cakez read is at

-b

ftr I'd expect this from town!pooky, using Warehouse 13 as an example

almost50 screwing around is how he towntells

+1 to this
he appears to be playing to that jokey meta here
iirc he was more serious in Tenet as scum

the fact Bork is posting content means Tig is prolly town too!

[SirCakez]

I think I'm going to have too many townreads this game

[SirCakez]

I don't like Tigerente's posts recently.

elaborate
this is an easy comment for you to throw as scum

@mods can we get a prod on kerset

I have my own way of prodding her

VOTE: Kerset

this kind of bugs me though

I'm not interested in Kerset. Feels like limbait and also the game has stalled around the two wagons on him and I which makes me think he's also town and scum are just happy with this gamestate.

VOTE: almost50
let's shake this tree

[SirCakez]

I mean there are plenty of inactive/less active slots

who are these slots? besides kerset and myself?

[SirCakez]

almost50 screwing around is how he towntells

+1 to this
he appears to be playing to that jokey meta here
iirc he was more serious in Tenet as scum

VOTE: almost50
let's shake this tree

mr sir cakez i have a question

I changed my mind bc of the Kerset vote

[SirCakez]

I feel like the game stalling on a wagon is not normally indicative that they are on town??

if the wagons were on scum presumably we'd see counterwagon attempts, no?

[SirCakez]

yea I agree Cakez trying to pretend like he's a tree and hiding until the storm blows over is kind of bad for game flow but that's kind of on him to show up and town it up?

I was doing other things irl my disappearance had nothing to do with this game so don't pin it on me

The more he ghosts the thread, the more guilty he looks.

and this is just bullshit

ugh Tig has me conflicted. I like bork but it feels like skitter could be WKing me
:/

[SirCakez]

gamma why are you not voting

~ skitteR

No one really looks like scum rn
VOTE: Kerset just so my vote can do something, plus I lowkey think kerset should have obvtowned by now if she is town

yeah Gamma could definitely be scum

I'm not interested in Kerset. Feels like limbait and also the game has stalled around the two wagons on him and I

i'm not sure where you're getting this? you were a stalled wagon sure, but kerset's sprung up basically overnight, got to 6 votes, and right after that is in the midst of collapsing. how is that stalled?

iirc when I left on Monday Kerset was a wagon and it looks like they still are two days later with no alternatives being offered? sounds like a stall to me

[SirCakez]

lilith

This gimmick feels really forced.

-S

can you elab on this SS? do you think it makes Penguin scum? this wording is strange.

you defending cakes felt kind of like you defending mc in panic room

- lilith

if "wake up" is directed at me then my response would be that your ISO is full of fluff, little hunting, and weird half-defenses of cakes

- lilith

Well when everyone else seems to SR cakez it feels like I’d be wasting my time actually trying to defend him
The fact that I’m actually cutting my losses here is actually a stark contrast to panic room

yeah like it kinda feels like Gamma is trying to pull towncred off my townflip but not really fully going forward with a defense
it's really bizarre

VOTE: Kerset
Kerset is just open chainsawing imo

garbage post

after reading pg 33 I'll join this wagon
VOTE: Gamma

[SirCakez]

+1 to this
he appears to be playing to that jokey meta here
iirc he was more serious in Tenet as scum

VOTE: almost50
let's shake this tree

I already answered this when Datisi asked, bringing it back up again is pointless

[SirCakez]

I feel like the game stalling on a wagon is not normally indicative that they are on town??

if the wagons were on scum presumably we'd see counterwagon attempts, no?

If the scum are already on counterwagons what are you expecting? All of the scum jumping up and down and saying "no vote this person instead!!"?

so who are the scum buddies on counterwagons if you think this is the case?

[SirCakez]

I really have the strong feeling after catchup that scum are all over Kerset

[SirCakez]

like he feels like such a scum-designated miselim

[SirCakez]

@pooky, is there reasoning why you shouldn't be pushing cakez for his inactivity? like, does cakez have a point in saying that you pushing him for that is disingenous?

?

I don't understand this question

my vote is on cakez

i want to kill cakez

not sure what else I need to be doing at this point?

He's either going to come back and do townCakes things or he isn't.

hi I'm back so you can stop vomiting crap about me avoiding the thread

[SirCakez]

Cakez is really scummy here and I'm disappointed his wagon fell off. What's townie about someone who comes back and votes consensus wagon in the middle of an apparent catchup? Don't you care about your own thoughts and how they could change based on unknown information? Apparently not.

what consensus wagon? I voted A50 who has no votes and then Gamma who has two votes.
and I always place votes and stuff while catching up because it reflects my thoughts while reading

[SirCakez]

who are these slots? besides kerset and myself?

At the time I made that comment? Gypyx (granted town), Umlaut, xHeavenx, Almost50 were who I was thinking about.

ig these are fair. maybe A50 and Heaven didn't feel like that to me because I was thinking about them during catchup and earlier.
I forgot Gypyx was in this game lol

[SirCakez]

I really have the strong feeling after catchup that scum are all over Kerset

Who are the scum on kerset’s wagon?

- lilith

Dwlee, A50, Gamma

[SirCakez]

I already answered this when Datisi asked, bringing it back up again is pointless

I hadn't read that post when I made mine......

oh okay

[SirCakez]

Cakez is really scummy here and I'm disappointed his wagon fell off. What's townie about someone who comes back and votes consensus wagon in the middle of an apparent catchup? Don't you care about your own thoughts and how they could change based on unknown information? Apparently not.

what consensus wagon? I voted A50 who has no votes and then Gamma who has two votes.
and I always place votes and stuff while catching up because it reflects my thoughts while reading

Gamma has huge momentum right now. It's pretty much a building counterwagon

What does this matter anyways? Your vote doesn't need to be justified to me, because if you think it's the right one I should be able to get that from your posts. I don't, I just see you vying for relevancy as you driveby numerous topics, eventually leading to a non-committal vote.

Where is the "huge momentum"? This is such a misrep and objectively false.
I responded because it's bullshit you're spewing and it needs to be called out.

[SirCakez]

I changed my mind bc of the Kerset vote

but what does a50 have to do with votes on me?

He voted you and i think it's a bad vote that I don't think he'd make as town

[SirCakez]

hi I'm back so you can stop vomiting crap about me avoiding the thread

I'm glad you're back dude

it would be boring af to kill you while you weren't here

As usual
U don't have my back

[SirCakez]

Cakez is really scummy here and I'm disappointed his wagon fell off. What's townie about someone who comes back and votes consensus wagon in the middle of an apparent catchup? Don't you care about your own thoughts and how they could change based on unknown information? Apparently not.

what consensus wagon? I voted A50 who has no votes and then Gamma who has two votes.
and I always place votes and stuff while catching up because it reflects my thoughts while reading

Gamma has huge momentum right now. It's pretty much a building counterwagon

What does this matter anyways? Your vote doesn't need to be justified to me, because if you think it's the right one I should be able to get that from your posts. I don't, I just see you vying for relevancy as you driveby numerous topics, eventually leading to a non-committal vote.

Where is the "huge momentum"? This is such a misrep and objectively false.
I responded because it's bullshit you're spewing and it needs to be called out.

No you responded because you care too much about your image and not what your posts are actually bringing to the table.

Lmao

[SirCakez]

As usual
U don't have my back

buddy if you do that town thing you do then I'll get your back

You've been talking to Unwnd and Cabd too much
Those assholes keep wagging towntells in my face and not telling me what they are

[SirCakez]

Cakez is really scummy here and I'm disappointed his wagon fell off. What's townie about someone who comes back and votes consensus wagon in the middle of an apparent catchup? Don't you care about your own thoughts and how they could change based on unknown information? Apparently not.

what consensus wagon? I voted A50 who has no votes and then Gamma who has two votes.
and I always place votes and stuff while catching up because it reflects my thoughts while reading

Gamma has huge momentum right now. It's pretty much a building counterwagon

What does this matter anyways? Your vote doesn't need to be justified to me, because if you think it's the right one I should be able to get that from your posts. I don't, I just see you vying for relevancy as you driveby numerous topics, eventually leading to a non-committal vote.

Where is the "huge momentum"? This is such a misrep and objectively false.
I responded because it's bullshit you're spewing and it needs to be called out.

I agree with heaven so don’t think it’s a misrep. What makes you say gamma is not a building counterwagon?

- lilith

There were exactly two votes on him from a few pages ago and then I voted and no one else has voted since. A currently building CW with momentum would actually have momentum...
Gamma is not even being talked about rn except for in the content of me

[SirCakez]

hi I'm back so you can stop vomiting crap about me avoiding the thread

I'm glad you're back dude

it would be boring af to kill you while you weren't here

As usual
U don't have my back

for some reason, this post gave me big vibes to your play in the secret hitler marathon where you were scum

*Shrug*
I can't recall a game where Pooky has TRed me

[SirCakez]

You've been talking to Unwnd and Cabd too much
Those assholes keep wagging towntells in my face and not telling me what they are

you know if you just pulled up some of your recent town/scum games and read thru them you'd see some pretty clear divergent behavior lol

I don't have time to do that lol I barely make it around to my games as is

[SirCakez]

If you go back to page 30 and read through literally the only people talking about Gamma in the context of his play and not this stupid discussion of whether he's a wagon or not are Tig, Dats and me

[SirCakez]

As usual
U don't have my back

buddy if you do that town thing you do then I'll get your back

You've been talking to Unwnd and Cabd too much
Those assholes keep wagging towntells in my face and not telling me what they are

are Unwnd and Cabd in this game????

You missed the point

[SirCakez]

If you go back to page 30 and read through literally the only people talking about Gamma in the context of his play and not this stupid discussion of whether he's a wagon or not are Tig, Dats and me

Like I just did a thread search of Gamma and went back to page 30 and confirmed this
This shouldn't even be a debate

[SirCakez]

Those are the people with the most thread influence

In what world is this true? You're making things up to fit your push on me.

[SirCakez]

pooky, i was basically looking for you to comment on that

does cakez have a reason to be saying you pushing him for inactivity is indigenous or not

also i am not reading any pedits

I don't see how Cakez would expect me to know he has RL things that keep him away from the site since I'm not a psychic

I literally came into the thread and said I was away because of irl and then you later made posts suggesting me avoiding the game was because of game stuff

[SirCakez]

[SirCakez]

How the FUCK am I supposed to scum hunt and talk about things besides me when y'all won't shut the fuck up about my posts and nitpicking everything I do
I call out A50, get poked
I call out Gamma, get pulled into this useless fucking argument about whether there was "momentum" or not
I post a half page of catch-up and then somebody literally says i didn't catch-up
It's exhausting

[SirCakez]

And then I post thoughts and stuff looking for help sorting my townreads like with Tig and it gets fucking ignored because everyone is just playing whack a cakez
Don't fucking blame me you wouldn't be able to do anything either

[SirCakez]

almost50 screwing around is how he towntells

+1 to this
he appears to be playing to that jokey meta here
iirc he was more serious in Tenet as scum

VOTE: almost50
let's shake this tree

mr sir cakez i have a question

I'm not interested in Kerset. Feels like limbait and also the game has stalled around the two wagons on him and I

i'm not sure where you're getting this? you were a stalled wagon sure, but kerset's sprung up basically overnight, got to 6 votes, and right after that is in the midst of collapsing. how is that stalled?

+1 to this
he appears to be playing to that jokey meta here
iirc he was more serious in Tenet as scum

VOTE: almost50
let's shake this tree

Cakez is really scummy here and I'm disappointed his wagon fell off. What's townie about someone who comes back and votes consensus wagon in the middle of an apparent catchup? Don't you care about your own thoughts and how they could change based on unknown information? Apparently not.

I really have the strong feeling after catchup that scum are all over Kerset

Who are the scum on kerset’s wagon?

- lilith

Cakez is really scummy here and I'm disappointed his wagon fell off. What's townie about someone who comes back and votes consensus wagon in the middle of an apparent catchup? Don't you care about your own thoughts and how they could change based on unknown information? Apparently not.

what consensus wagon? I voted A50 who has no votes and then Gamma who has two votes.
and I always place votes and stuff while catching up because it reflects my thoughts while reading

Gamma has huge momentum right now. It's pretty much a building counterwagon

What does this matter anyways? Your vote doesn't need to be justified to me, because if you think it's the right one I should be able to get that from your posts. I don't, I just see you vying for relevancy as you driveby numerous topics, eventually leading to a non-committal vote.

I changed my mind bc of the Kerset vote

but what does a50 have to do with votes on me?

Cakez is really scummy here and I'm disappointed his wagon fell off. What's townie about someone who comes back and votes consensus wagon in the middle of an apparent catchup? Don't you care about your own thoughts and how they could change based on unknown information? Apparently not.

what consensus wagon? I voted A50 who has no votes and then Gamma who has two votes.
and I always place votes and stuff while catching up because it reflects my thoughts while reading

Gamma is where the wind is currently blowing, since several people are scumreading him and very few are townreading him

- lilith

I really have the strong feeling after catchup that scum are all over Kerset

Who are the scum on kerset’s wagon?

- lilith

Dwlee, A50, Gamma

How are you getting this when you're not even broadly defining why these three make sense? It just seems so fake I'm sorry.

As usual
U don't have my back

buddy if you do that town thing you do then I'll get your back

Cakez is really scummy here and I'm disappointed his wagon fell off. What's townie about someone who comes back and votes consensus wagon in the middle of an apparent catchup? Don't you care about your own thoughts and how they could change based on unknown information? Apparently not.

what consensus wagon? I voted A50 who has no votes and then Gamma who has two votes.
and I always place votes and stuff while catching up because it reflects my thoughts while reading

Gamma has huge momentum right now. It's pretty much a building counterwagon

What does this matter anyways? Your vote doesn't need to be justified to me, because if you think it's the right one I should be able to get that from your posts. I don't, I just see you vying for relevancy as you driveby numerous topics, eventually leading to a non-committal vote.

Where is the "huge momentum"? This is such a misrep and objectively false.
I responded because it's bullshit you're spewing and it needs to be called out.

I agree with heaven so don’t think it’s a misrep. What makes you say gamma is not a building counterwagon?

- lilith

hi I'm back so you can stop vomiting crap about me avoiding the thread

I'm glad you're back dude

it would be boring af to kill you while you weren't here

As usual
U don't have my back

for some reason, this post gave me big vibes to your play in the secret hitler marathon where you were scum

You've been talking to Unwnd and Cabd too much
Those assholes keep wagging towntells in my face and not telling me what they are

you know if you just pulled up some of your recent town/scum games and read thru them you'd see some pretty clear divergent behavior lol

Multiple people have been talking about gamma since yesterday?

- lilith

As usual
U don't have my back

buddy if you do that town thing you do then I'll get your back

You've been talking to Unwnd and Cabd too much
Those assholes keep wagging towntells in my face and not telling me what they are

are Unwnd and Cabd in this game????

[SirCakez]

the fact that cakez ignored 918 is making me hmm

which i feel kind of bad pointing out at this very moment considering his most recent posts but it is what it is

What am I supposed to say to that? Honestly I don't even care enough to want to bother it's so vague

[SirCakez]

Do you think those people are scummy for pushing you?

No but I wish they would leave me alone for a few minutes so I could stop talking about myself and actually scumhunt

[SirCakez]

Looking at pooky a little bit atm; I do like the way he brought up 360. I don't think it's something he had to do as scum here - I'm not really sure scum-pooky has any reason to really believe that I'm going to be so unelimable that he has to go a route where he's basically setting himself up to have to eventually townread me, especially considering I hadn't posted at all up until yesterday

That said I'm a little bit alarmed as to how hard he's going against cakez right now, it almost seems harder than lilith herself is and on some level I feel like explanations about confidence in lilith being town morphed into confidence in lilith being correct about cakez and I'd definitely like to untangle the two as far as where his cakez read is at

-b

ftr I'd expect this from town!pooky, using Warehouse 13 as an example

almost50 screwing around is how he towntells

+1 to this
he appears to be playing to that jokey meta here
iirc he was more serious in Tenet as scum

the fact Bork is posting content means Tig is prolly town too!

I think I'm going to have too many townreads this game

I'm not interested in Kerset. Feels like limbait and also the game has stalled around the two wagons on him and I which makes me think he's also town and scum are just happy with this gamestate.

ugh Tig has me conflicted. I like bork but it feels like skitter could be WKing me
:/

can you elab on this SS? do you think it makes Penguin scum? this wording is strange.

I really have the strong feeling after catchup that scum are all over Kerset

like he feels like such a scum-designated miselim

[SirCakez]

Do you think those people are scummy for pushing you?

No but I wish they would leave me alone for a few minutes so I could stop talking about myself and actually scumhunt

I don't get that, if I'm town and I'm being apparently dogpiled on then the scumteam finds the opposition to be worth something? I also don't get what your quotes there are supposed to represent, it just seems like people talking about you. The only person who wants you to die is probably me.

it was response to 931 about who is "everyone"

[SirCakez]

Cakez RN:

Spoiler: gross gif be warned

[SirCakez]

Ok i didn't say YES I WANT TO TALK PLEASE TALK TO ME
but I wasn't just posting those things as lol comments i was hoping someone would like to converse

[SirCakez]

i am not going to respond to any more questions or comments about anything I have posted on the last few pages because it's obviously a waste of time

[SirCakez]

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He was the bad guy in that movie cakez...digging a hole.

[SirCakez]

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oh right spamming is a rule sorry i'll stop

[SirCakez]

im having fun
heaven go back to your cave

[SirCakez]

ayyy I got one

[SirCakez]

I member the days when mafia was fun

[SirCakez]

Cakez knows he fucked himself and now just wants to have fun while not trying to lead onto who his partners are. His job is to merely distract at this rate.

Please kill him. Please.

why are you so desperate?

[SirCakez]

I remember when scum didn't give up at the first sight of trouble. You're in my scope Cakey boy

are you an alt? calling me Cakey is weird

[SirCakez]

Ftr the gif spam was me getting out frustration with this game in a less toxic way then the alternative which would have been a lot of salt

[SirCakez]

@people who know Skitter well
Would she go in to WK and probably pocket a townie in trouble as scum?

[SirCakez]

And does anyone have meta of Umlaut here to suggest this is his scum game? Because iirc this is his town game

[SirCakez]

yup

Do you think Tig is scum then?

[SirCakez]

hmm
I think borks towniness prolly just makes them town. Unless someone who is not Dwlee can present reason otherwise.

[SirCakez]

I have a decent scumpool elsewhere anyways.

[SirCakez]

Why can't it be me?

Because you're probably scum

[SirCakez]

And anyways I've already read your Tig scum reasoning and don't find it compelling

[SirCakez]

Oh yeah can I get added to the score chart Pooky

[SirCakez]

I need to talk to her 1 to 1 i think

[SirCakez]

@skitter lmk when you're around

[SirCakez]

can you elab on this SS? do you think it makes Penguin scum? this wording is strange.

@SS respond please

[SirCakez]

Why can't it be me?

Because you're probably scum

Nou

*Head pat*

[SirCakez]

Same
I miss the good old days

[SirCakez]

Ok...

[SirCakez]

My pagetop?

I'm not sure, but I think cakez based on the last votecount.

Even before Umlauts last post I'm pretty sure kerset had more

[SirCakez]

Pengy's on fire

so cakez, is umlaut part of evil or your friend with helping hand?

I lean more town

[SirCakez]

Hi Infinity

[SirCakez]

I feel like the game stalling on a wagon is not normally indicative that they are on town??

if the wagons were on scum presumably we'd see counterwagon attempts, no?

isn't kerset your counterwagon, no?

Sort of? It seems like most people are saying we are scum together tho

[SirCakez]

@people who know Skitter well
Would she go in to WK and probably pocket a townie in trouble as scum?

do u think i'm scum doing this

I don't know I want to talk about it more
Some say you are town here but I'm not 100% sold

[SirCakez]

Obviously there is no momentum for Gamma CW btw given the total lack of votes on him since mine earlier

[SirCakez]

Which also makes me think more scum

[SirCakez]

Pooky firing shots

[SirCakez]

i'm not sure most poeple are saying this and i kinda dislike that you're sort of piggybacking off of my reasoning to lump both yourself and kerset in the same pool and call yourselves town

I don't understand what this means
Obv not everyone is pooling us but I feel like it's a more common team suggestion than anything else

[SirCakez]

i mean ok sure what do u want to talk about

Why have you spent so much time talking about me this game if you're not even sure I'm town?

[SirCakez]

I'm also already arguing Kerset is town

[SirCakez]

So if you think scum me Kerset town who are my buddies pushing Kerset?
Trying to find common ground here

[SirCakez]

Ok but I was using that logic before you even brought it up Tig

[SirCakez]

I'm also not the leading wagon and haven't been for a while

[SirCakez]

I'm not interested in Kerset. Feels like limbait and also the game has stalled around the two wagons on him and I which makes me think he's also town and scum are just happy with this gamestate.

Cakez can you go into this a little more? Why is the game "stalling on kerset" (i'm even not super sure that's really what happened here) make them more likely to be town and why are they necessarily limbait instead of just ineffective scum?

-b

Because it feels like a default lim that scummy people are happy with
See: A50, Gamma coming in and dropping shitty votes on him and leaving

[SirCakez]

Why have you spent so much time talking about me this game if you're not even sure I'm town?

probably because you're a leading wagon and as such you're high on our priority list?

Frankly I think your tantrum earlier looked pretty town

-b

I object to that being called a tantrum
It was an artistic display of emotion

[SirCakez]

I mean you're a person who is on the hotseat atm yes or no? that question seems pedantic to me (I even said "a", not "the")

-b

I was referring to Skitter
1131

[SirCakez]

How about me I'm ok with it

Also I think a50 and gamma are both very towny

Was this @ me? If so I don't get the point of it, I'd actually need to hear an argument for why they are town even tho you are conftown I'm not just gonna magic change my mind

[SirCakez]

For all the talk earlier of "big momentum coming in for huge Gamma wagon!!!!" there hasn't been any votes placed on anyone but Kerset for a while aside from those few Gamma votes earlier
I'd consider that a stall (altho obviously it hasnt been for long)

[SirCakez]

Cakez: if you, kerset, and tiger are all town then I am horrendously bad at this game.

We knew that already

[SirCakez]

Ok but I was using that logic before you even brought it up Tig

cakez did you really read the pages that happened in your absence?
ok if the answer is no i'm trying to understand something

~ skitteR

Yes and I don't understand why that seems to be a point of confusion? I literally said I was catching up and responded to posts from over those 10 pages

[SirCakez]

I don’t feel confident in anything rn
Gypyx what are your thoughts?

I agree with penguin tbh, things feel kinda slow outside the cakez situation

Because cakez has been a wagon for a couple days and nothing interesting has happened?

I feel like posts like this come from scum like 80% of the time and I hate how he has postured around me saying I'm town but not really committing to pushing anywhere else.
I also think it's bad how he has 60 posts but I can barely remember any of them

[SirCakez]

Another one

[SirCakez]

Kerset votes started springing up somewhat early because of some shitty posts he made early game and he was around 3-4 for a while but then new votes came in and pushed him past me recently after he "returned" and made some more bad posts

[SirCakez]

Is your townread on kerset contingent on 1+ scum in (gamma/a50) ?

-b

I mean if they both flipped town I'd probably reconsider but it's not solely based on them

[SirCakez]

ok thanks cakez, i appreciate it

i'm kinda settling on cakez is town because he doesn't really know how the kerset wagoned unfolded or why the leading wagon isn't him anymore
i'm p sure that if he were scum and were in a scum pt he would have been getting posts from teammates about him being the leading wagon, and about how he no longer wasn't (i.e. about how i made the kerset wagon a thing last night) but he's kinda unaware about all fo these happenings that i feel like he would know about as scum here given that he *was* the leading wagon

like he thinks kerset's wagon was just humdrumming along and also stalled and got a couple of more votes cuz kerset came in and psoted badly but that's not what happened, and i think scum-him would probably know the game events better given that they sort of directly concern him

~ skitteR

I can't reread 50 pages how did it happen then?

[SirCakez]

I feel like posts like this come from scum like 80% of the time and I hate how he has postured around me saying I'm town but not really committing to pushing anywhere else.
I also think it's bad how he has 60 posts but I can barely remember any of them

I strongly disagree and I think all of this is very in character for gamma

How so

[SirCakez]

I need to find scum in my nullish pile if Gamma and or A50 and or Dwlee are town
People like Umlaut or Heaven or Pooky

[SirCakez]

Still think Limit, Datisi, Penguin are ragingly town

[SirCakez]

I mean if they both flipped town I'd probably reconsider but it's not solely based on them

what else? at this point this is less about you and more about kerset; what are you seeing?

-b

It feels like...too scummy to be scum. Like he does not give a fuck how he is read. The tone seems way too unconcerned about himself.

[SirCakez]

Tbh Heaven has not really done anything this game but rage at me and call me obvscum but that argument earlier made me way too exhausted to push there when my other scumspects are stronger

[SirCakez]

I can't reread 50 pages how did it happen then?

yesterday i decided to vote kerset and a couple of votes joined
and then last night i was like: man this cakez wagon has stalled since like p2, why is that, and why is the game dead. let's see what happens if we try to vote soemeone else and cajoled a bunch of people into voting kerset and it got to e1 overnight, and so i'm now trying to puzzle over what that means

like the whole wagon happened in less than an irl day if iirc

~ skitteR

I mean I wasn't that far off then, i remember it happened basically in two chunks

[SirCakez]

How so

Have you played with him before?

He doesn't stand out, he doesn't feel the need to say anything if he has nothing to say, he just quietly does his thing but if you pay attention he says a lot of things that are unlikely for scum to fake

Like what?

[SirCakez]

Cakez can you explain why datisi and penguin are so towny to you?

Penguin is playing exactly like he has in the past as town (altho this could be flawed because i don't think I've seen his scum game)
Datisi's play reads convincingly like a conflicted townie (esp looking at his indecision over what to do w me)

[SirCakez]

I really have the strong feeling after catchup that scum are all over Kerset

Who are the scum on kerset’s wagon?

- lilith

Dwlee, A50, Gamma

You mean to tell me you think the whole scum team is on a wagon that looks like an easy mislim if Town? Come on, Cakey. You do have a recent scum game with me and you know I don't jump on easy mislims like that. (unless I'm confused and you were not scum with me in TENET).

This is a good point here
Prolly not all three are scum
So there is scum elsewhere in my reads

[SirCakez]

Penguin can't complain about lack of wagons this game

[SirCakez]

What the fuck was that Heaven

[SirCakez]

Well my A50 Sr was right!

[SirCakez]

Was that a SK or vig?

[SirCakez]

I'm not BP so y'all were rbd or someone protected me (lol)

[SirCakez]

Wait the vig claim has to be fake right? Role pm confirms one 2 person mafia.
VOTE: Tigerente [/post]

?????

[SirCakez]

Can someone link the setup

[SirCakez]

We should basically know the setup with these flips - we have Goon, RBer, 1-shot cop, vig claim, probable SK

[SirCakez]

Probably one C?

[SirCakez]

If i was BP SK I wouldn't have killed A50 lol he would have been a great push for me today

[SirCakez]

Yeah you got me xD xD

[SirCakez]

Q/e this game is won for town just do it so Tig can vig someone else

[SirCakez]

obviously it wasn't serious fucking hell

[SirCakez]

Dwlee looks so scummy here trying to push Tig with that rolecard crap

[SirCakez]

VOTE: dwlee
Regardless it seems super scum motivated

[SirCakez]

Hmmm
UNVOTE:

[SirCakez]

I wouldn't have pushed A50 yesterday if I were maf here

[SirCakez]

Lilith was an obvious scum kill - widely townread and probably not going to be protected because of the IC

[SirCakez]

I have no idea what happened with the shot but I presume A50 rbed tig

[SirCakez]

okay then yeet me I'm already at peace w it

[SirCakez]

There ya go

[SirCakez]

Then where did the A50 rb go?

[SirCakez]

I believe both claims

[SirCakez]

VOTE: gamma

[SirCakez]

I'm a VT obv

[SirCakez]

Claiming regardless of massclaim or not cuz y'all want blood

[SirCakez]

Pooky could be the SK

[SirCakez]

You didn't have his back

[SirCakez]

I'm around need to read up

[SirCakez]

I'm around need to read up

cakez u still around?

Sorta
Someone asked who is scum? Was that at me?

W/e
Rn my pool is Dwlee, Gamma, Pooky

[SirCakez]

With the knowledge of SK i don't think the hammer clears Heaven

[SirCakez]

I mean you don't know who's mafia and who isn't

This
Dwlee's defense is ridiculous

[SirCakez]

With the knowledge of SK i don't think the hammer clears Heaven

ok but we agree he isn't groupscum tho, right?

Yeah i don't think scum want Kerset dead there when I was on the table as an elim

[SirCakez]

Trying to pick for the mod error is a bad idea

[SirCakez]

Infinity is not scum and says the same thing lol what a bad retort

[SirCakez]

I'm burden of proficiency-ing you right now, I don't think town!cakez scumreads me here.

Why not?

[SirCakez]

I'm burden of proficiency-ing you right now, I don't think town!cakez scumreads me here.

Why not?

I'm towning it up in here that's why.

Not really