Open 431 - Sword Swallowing - Game Over

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Amrun, siv or siveure is okay. The DtTrikyp bit is rarely used.

Also,

Vote: Om of the Nom

. Egotistical Potatoes have no place in this game.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Progressing the RVS.

Who's the best player in this group? Let's lynch that person...

On second thoughts, no, bad idea. We want a choice for scums between confirmed innocents and townie players.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

If we lynch anyone and they don't die, they're confirmed innocent. Those confirmed innocents. If that person is also a VI, it's not necessarily scums best interest to shoot them.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Policy lynch is okay, in my opinion. Sure, they won't die, but they'll definitely be innocent and we're essentially painting a bullseye on them for the scum.

Vote: Thomas

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Overreaction to an obvious joke claim seems scummy.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

VOTE: TheShadow

Quicklynching is BAD. Very bad. Especially when we have barely got out of random voting stage. Especially when there's a votecount right above your post...

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I put him at L-1 for pressure. And pressure votes don't work if the target knows it's a pressure vote.

I didn't make it clear that I didn't want a hammer because that would have probably let on it was a pressure vote. I expected people not to quickhammer. The possibility of a quickhammer completely evaded my mind.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I have severe doubts in hitting scum day 1, so I am fine with a policy lynch on day 1, unless I'm very confident that there's scum.

But I seriously did not expect anybody to hammer.

The dumb townie argument can only work if you assume he missed the post-count, or doesn't understand why quickhammering is bad. Either way, too dumb to live.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Mod, I will be V/LA from Friday 3rd through Sunday 5th

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Policy lynch day 1, yes.

Day 2, depends. In this case, shadow is not a policy lynch. He's scum, for the way he did the quickhammer.

That's a policy lynch anyways. It will provide the truth.

My vote is no longer rvs based.

This is a TERRIBLE post. It's just... so bad. As somoene else asked earlier, do you think Om is scum? Why, then, did you hammer his biggest suspect with no discussion and waste Day 1 entirely?

Policy lynch is okay, in my opinion. Sure, they won't die, but they'll definitely be innocent and we're essentially painting a bullseye on them for the scum.

Vote: Thomas

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Overreaction to an obvious joke claim seems scummy.

But Siv here does the same thing. He's clearly super fine with Thomas dying, here.

What same thing? My vote on Om was random, and I don't think I ever implied that it wasn't.

Also, reads:

Split: Somewhat lurkish? He's posted three times, admittedly was on V/LA, but one post was about being on V/LA. Also, Om's point about the shadow point stretch. Scum
Shadow: Quickhammered with absolutely no explanation, on somebody who was, as amrun said, his former suspect's main support. Absolutely no explanation for the quickhammer since. I'd like that to come sometime soon. Also, checking up for meta he admits to technically being an alt, with some experience, so I don't think a newbie exception is in order. Scum
Scigatt: I can't tell much beyond that he seems to be contributing. Lean Town
Om of the Nom: Contributing the most, and seems genuine. Town.
Amrun: Same as scigatt, but I don't like that point above. Also, my rampant OMGUS tendencies. Null

Town: Om of the Nom, Scigatt
Null: Amrun
Scum: Shadow, Splitfarvale

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Well, yes. Okay. At first shadow was mostly a policy lynch. Looking back at it, he's scum.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

major joke post incoming

Partner for siv? I don't know. Here's who it could be, in order of most likely to least likely.

1) TheShadow. Of course! Scum would never be dumb enough to do an extended quickhammer on a townie! Thus, they can do it and bus each other freely!
2) Saulres - Very possible. He's not suspected at all, and he wasn't the night kill, he said who the night kill was. It HAS to be him!
3) Siveure DtTrikyp. Obviously he's both the scum, and we need to lynch him twice!
4) Thomas - If saulres is scum, then there could very well be three scum, as the only way we know there's two scum is from saulres. Thus, saulres faked the killing of thomas!
5) Amrun - He's bussed siv like crazy throughout the game! He could very well be scum!

Seriously though, what makes me more scummy than shadow?
Hrmmm. The split/shadow team is waay too obvious to have a high chance of being scum. It's still the best lead, though.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Wait, I said quicklynching earlier? I meant quickhammering. *facepalm*

Anyway, I don't think shadow is scum, because of erm,
People agree it's between me and shadow
I'm town, and if he was scum then he'd know my townishness and my lynch would result in his lynch.

I don't trust this reasoning at all when I examine it closer. Because it requires shadow to look at it the way I have, which probably wouldn't happen.

Shadow, why was thomas scummy when you hammered?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

But I seriously did not expect anybody to hammer.

Please tell me you aren't serious.

Well, yes. Okay. At first shadow was mostly a policy lynch. Looking back at it, he's scum.

Lol backtrack.

Anyway, I don't think shadow is scum, because of erm,
People agree it's between me and shadow
I'm town, and if he was scum then he'd know my townishness and my lynch would result in his lynch.

I'm glad you don't trust this. This reads like serious reaching to me.

On the first, I can't, because of lynch all liars.
On the second, yeah. I edited the relevant line on day 2 policy lynches to make myself seem more confident in a shadow lynch. Not a good edit, apparently.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Erm, V/LA over.

Sorry saulres.

I think shadow could well be just a lazy town newbie. He could very well be scum, but meh...

Actually, that sort of quickhammer would be lazy scum, and he has obviously been lazy.

VOTE: TheShadow, not splitfarvale.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Wasn't your vote already on TheShadow?

Err, yeah.

I was gonna switch to split, and I undid the switch. Erm...

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Well, om.

I'm not that good at mafia, and my preferable lynch is shadow or split. I don't know how to convince you with no votes or suspicion on me, and with the votes and suspicion and shadow being the most obvious counter-lynch I'm completely screwed.

Besides, it's not LyLo yet. There's still several days left for you to get the scumteam if I die.

Meh, let's just end this day, as it's not going anywhere.

Hammer: Siveure DtTrikyp

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Meh. I think you can't blame just shadow for losing. He had a large part, but the anti-townishness of myself and split can't be discounted.

I liked the flavour, personally.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

It was still very very dumb. Don't let the fact I diddn't mean to do it take that away.