Open 431 - Sword Swallowing - Game Over

[Amrun]

No, don't hammer yet. Too soon. I would like to see everyone's scumteam speculations. My best guess is Siv and Scigatt, but there are other possible partners. I just feel like the rest are slightly less likely buddies to siv than scigatt.

[Om of the Nom]

Amrun, what is your read on spitfarvle?

[Amrun]

Next most likely buddy to Siv.

[Scigatt]

Still on V/LA, but managed to read over the thread a few times. At the moment can make one post here.

So this has started..

VOTE: Om

Yes, I do want fries with that.

Is there any other reason for that vote?

This useless questioning that Scigatt is doing first strikes me as scummy because I see NO use to his obvious questions. However, people often see no use to MY scumhunting questions, so...

When? Right now you are interrogating me and before... I dunno. "It's complicated" came from facebook. So should I ask you "any scumhunting justification for this question?" Right now you're just asking weird questions. Do you play like this in all games?

This line of questioning was exactly what I was thinking, but I was reading this knowing you guys lynched Thomas for no reason and going "uuuuuuuuuugh."

I was getting pretty anxious about ending RVS, and that was the motivation underlying those questions.

@Mod: Can you PLEASE not hide the flips behind spoiler text? The device I'm using to read the thread 99% of the time has no means of text selection, meaning I can't read what it says. I did not know until a few minutes ago that Thomas flipped town and was the nightkill.

Meh, you could have figured out what probably happened from the non-spoilered text and the fact that people weren't calling for my head, but that's neither here nor there. Also, you haven't answered Amrun's question from post 86. Why did you change your suspicion so fast anyways?

@TheShadow and Siveure DtTrikyp: Why did you think a policy lynch was a good idea?

@Mod: Can you PLEASE not hide the flips behind spoiler text? The device I'm using to read the thread 99% of the time has no means of text selection, meaning I can't read what it says. I did not know until a few minutes ago that Thomas flipped town and was the nightkill.

But this seems like a towntell.

No it doesn't. It seems like an attempt to push a null tell as a town tell. This is enough to decide between TheShadow and Siveure DtTrikyp for now.

Vote:TheShadow

My current best guess for the scumteam is TheShadow and splitfarvle.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

I have severe doubts in hitting scum day 1, so I am fine with a policy lynch on day 1, unless I'm very confident that there's scum.

But I seriously did not expect anybody to hammer.

The dumb townie argument can only work if you assume he missed the post-count, or doesn't understand why quickhammering is bad. Either way, too dumb to live.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Mod, I will be V/LA from Friday 3rd through Sunday 5th

[Amrun]

So you're fine with a policy lynch boy days 1 and 2?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Policy lynch day 1, yes.

Day 2, depends. In this case, shadow is not a policy lynch. He's scum, for the way he did the quickhammer.

That's a policy lynch anyways. It will provide the truth.

My vote is no longer rvs based.

This is a TERRIBLE post. It's just... so bad. As somoene else asked earlier, do you think Om is scum? Why, then, did you hammer his biggest suspect with no discussion and waste Day 1 entirely?

Policy lynch is okay, in my opinion. Sure, they won't die, but they'll definitely be innocent and we're essentially painting a bullseye on them for the scum.

Vote: Thomas

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Overreaction to an obvious joke claim seems scummy.

But Siv here does the same thing. He's clearly super fine with Thomas dying, here.

What same thing? My vote on Om was random, and I don't think I ever implied that it wasn't.

Also, reads:

Split: Somewhat lurkish? He's posted three times, admittedly was on V/LA, but one post was about being on V/LA. Also, Om's point about the shadow point stretch. Scum
Shadow: Quickhammered with absolutely no explanation, on somebody who was, as amrun said, his former suspect's main support. Absolutely no explanation for the quickhammer since. I'd like that to come sometime soon. Also, checking up for meta he admits to technically being an alt, with some experience, so I don't think a newbie exception is in order. Scum
Scigatt: I can't tell much beyond that he seems to be contributing. Lean Town
Om of the Nom: Contributing the most, and seems genuine. Town.
Amrun: Same as scigatt, but I don't like that point above. Also, my rampant OMGUS tendencies. Null

Town: Om of the Nom, Scigatt
Null: Amrun
Scum: Shadow, Splitfarvale

[Amrun]

Either way, too dumb to live.

This suggests otherwise.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Well, yes. Okay. At first shadow was mostly a policy lynch. Looking back at it, he's scum.

[Amrun]

That was like 2 posts ago

....


OKAY can we get our team speculations up so siv can die? Thanks.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

major joke post incoming

Partner for siv? I don't know. Here's who it could be, in order of most likely to least likely.

1) TheShadow. Of course! Scum would never be dumb enough to do an extended quickhammer on a townie! Thus, they can do it and bus each other freely!
2) Saulres - Very possible. He's not suspected at all, and he wasn't the night kill, he said who the night kill was. It HAS to be him!
3) Siveure DtTrikyp. Obviously he's both the scum, and we need to lynch him twice!
4) Thomas - If saulres is scum, then there could very well be three scum, as the only way we know there's two scum is from saulres. Thus, saulres faked the killing of thomas!
5) Amrun - He's bussed siv like crazy throughout the game! He could very well be scum!

Seriously though, what makes me more scummy than shadow?
Hrmmm. The split/shadow team is waay too obvious to have a high chance of being scum. It's still the best lead, though.

[TheShadow]

Alright, answering questions:

Re: the quickhammer. It is my style to drop a hammer like that on someone I feel is scummy even before a claim. If they're null to me I'll declare intent and allow for claim first.


Reads:

Siv is my #1 scumread, for reasons including those I mentioned in my last post where I voted him.
Partner I think is Split, or maybe Scigatt.
Om and Amrun scream town to me, based partly on experience of previous games I've played with you.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Wait, I said quicklynching earlier? I meant quickhammering. *facepalm*

Anyway, I don't think shadow is scum, because of erm,
People agree it's between me and shadow
I'm town, and if he was scum then he'd know my townishness and my lynch would result in his lynch.

I don't trust this reasoning at all when I examine it closer. Because it requires shadow to look at it the way I have, which probably wouldn't happen.

Shadow, why was thomas scummy when you hammered?

[Amrun]

TheShadow, what other games have we played?

[Om of the Nom]

Re: the quickhammer. It is my style to drop a hammer like that on someone I feel is scummy even before a claim. If they're null to me I'll declare intent and allow for claim first.

wut
plz don't do that anymore in future games


Will respond to other stuff once *insert thing here* happens (shouldn't be too long).

[TheShadow]

TheShadow, what other games have we played?

A couple Larges.. game of the year, and one other I cant mention cause its still ongoing

[Om of the Nom]

But I seriously did not expect anybody to hammer.

Please tell me you aren't serious.

Well, yes. Okay. At first shadow was mostly a policy lynch. Looking back at it, he's scum.

Lol backtrack.

Anyway, I don't think shadow is scum, because of erm,
People agree it's between me and shadow
I'm town, and if he was scum then he'd know my townishness and my lynch would result in his lynch.

I'm glad you don't trust this. This reads like serious reaching to me.

[saulres]

Vote Count 2.2

L-1

Siveure DtTrikyp: Amrun, TheShadow, splitfarvle
L-2 TheShadow: Siveure DtTrikyp, Scigatt,
L-4 Amrun:
L-4 Scigatt:
L-4 Om of the Nom:
L-4 splitfarvle:

Not voting: Om of the Nom


With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch

Scigatt is V/LA until Friday
Deadline (expired on 2012-08-13 14:33:08)

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

But I seriously did not expect anybody to hammer.

Please tell me you aren't serious.

Well, yes. Okay. At first shadow was mostly a policy lynch. Looking back at it, he's scum.

Lol backtrack.

Anyway, I don't think shadow is scum, because of erm,
People agree it's between me and shadow
I'm town, and if he was scum then he'd know my townishness and my lynch would result in his lynch.

I'm glad you don't trust this. This reads like serious reaching to me.

On the first, I can't, because of lynch all liars.
On the second, yeah. I edited the relevant line on day 2 policy lynches to make myself seem more confident in a shadow lynch. Not a good edit, apparently.

[Scigatt]

Consider me out of V/LA.

Re: the quickhammer. It is my style to drop a hammer like that on someone I feel is scummy even before a claim. If they're null to me I'll declare intent and allow for claim first.

wut
plz don't do that anymore in future games


Will respond to other stuff once *insert thing here* happens (shouldn't be too long).

Would you mind telling us what that thing is?

[saulres]

It was quite the surprise to hear Scigatt's voice earlier in the day, as the manager hadn't yet said the plumbing emergency was over, but then you realized it was coming from the conference phone on your table (what, didn't I mention that before)? I won't describe the other noises which came over the phone, for those of the delicate persuasion.

You were happy to see Scigatt return, because your seemed a bit lost on how to select a performer tonight. The manager offered to use electric prods on you, but you quickly declined the offer, and got back to the serious business at hand.

Unfortunately, that was the moment when Siveure DtTrikyp realized he might be having a plumbing emergency of his own any minute.

Flavor: It's not just for important events any more!

[Om of the Nom]

That thing was literally nothing.
I just was too distracted to pay complete attention to everything I had just read at the time.
And then I forgot about the game, until TheShadow posted.
At which point I made the post after him.

[saulres]

Prodding splitfarvle

[Scigatt]

@Om of the Nom: Why does post 94 look like a town post, other than the mod request?