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Post Post #759 (isolation #0) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:35 am

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Post Post #760 (isolation #1) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:37 am

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I am super pumped about this game and was all caught up, and then I forgot everything. So I will be reading. I am kind of not stressed out though, since we have several chances and an outstanding Vig shot assuming no double-target.
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Post Post #762 (isolation #2) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:25 am

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NKs are whack and nonsensical given that they simply result in more cleared players. I have a theory, but first:

Massclaim time
. It is imperative that we Massclaim, since this is the last day that we can guarantee a victory if there is a fakeclaim. Thus scum cannot fakeclaim, otherwise his/her death is assured. Anyone who attempts to claim a PR after the massclaim should be lynched immediately because a trueclaim is the logically dominant strategy.

Furthermore, we are not actually losing PRs because two of the three claimed ones have already used their powers. The Vig has only one shot left that can be spent tonight.

Anyone who advocates against a massclaim is hardclaiming scum. We will proceed popcorn style. Falcon claims first.
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Post Post #765 (isolation #3) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:15 am

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Beli up next.

Falcon: VT
Maxous: VT
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Post Post #771 (isolation #4) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:22 pm

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Falcon: VT
Maxous: VT
Beli: VT
Kalimar: VT

Penguin?
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Post Post #776 (isolation #5) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:43 pm

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Read the thread. Sorry; brain fart.

Falcon: VT
Maxous: VT
Beli: VT
Kalimar: VT
Penguin: 1-shot Cop
Kublai Khan: IC

That leaves N and me.
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Post Post #778 (isolation #6) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:17 pm

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No need to be snippy. The massclaim was not a waste of time.

I am the Vig. Yuni vigged BoroPhil for some elusive reason, and I did not see the need to Vig last night given the chances of being NKed.

So the remaining scum is one of {Falcon, Maxous, Beli, Kalimar}.

There are eight players remaining. Each Day/Night cycle eliminates 2 players, which means by tomorrow morning we have 6, the next morning we have 4, and then another lynch. If I Vig, tomorrow we have 5, the next day we have 3, and then another lynch.

So basically I will Vig tonight and only if the scum is the one person we do not kill, we will win this game.
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Post Post #780 (isolation #7) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:45 pm

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Yeah, sorry about that. I do not want Falcon lynched today.

The set is {F-16, Beli, Maxous, N, Kalimar}

goodmorning (7): BoroPhil,
F-16_Fighting_Falcon
, emeraldemon, Kublai Khan, Tammy,
[N]
,
[Kalimar]
-- Off the wagon:
Beli
,
Maxous

iamausername (6): Powerofdeath, Kublai Khan,
Belisarius
, emeraldemon,
Maxous
, iamausername -- Off the wagon:
F-16
,
N
,
Kalimar


On the first wagon, both N/Yiley and Kalimar/Zekrom have votes that could very easily be bussing. F-16 encouraged people to lynch GM over PoD. That seems unlikely to come from a scum buddy.

Zek FoSed iam but never actually voted. I do not know why he is being townread.

Also worthy of note on Day 1 is Maxous, who correctly pegged both scum team members. Also unlikely to come from the buddies.


My recommendation is that we lynch Kalimar today. I will Vig Yiley tonight. Beli will be lynched tomorrow.
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Post Post #783 (isolation #8) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:36 pm

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How is that relevant?
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Post Post #786 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:42 pm

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F-16,

That is fine with me. I am Vigging N tonight if he is not lynched today, so we should lynch whomever the town finds scummiest.

N wrote:Because I wanted to know if you'd chosen to replace the vig deliberately. If you had, then you couldn't deny your massclaim was a waste of time.
Still not following, but I was not given a choice. And even if I had requested a particular replace, I would hope the mod would not honor such a request.
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Post Post #789 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:01 pm

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F-16 dies tomorrow at the latest.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #11) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:04 pm

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i.e. I would like to rearrange my order. I am worried about F-16 being scum and do not want him to make it to the endgame. I think I am not alone in this concern. I really think that Kalimar is the lynch for today.
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Post Post #792 (isolation #12) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:22 pm

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So we can lynch N. I will then Vig you. Kali is therefore the lynch for tomorrow.

I feel the best about Maxous surviving until endgame. If everyone agrees, no one should have a problem with lynches of everyone else who is not confirmed.
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Post Post #799 (isolation #13) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:58 am

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I did not find Yiley town at all.

VOTE: N
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Post Post #800 (isolation #14) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:00 am

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I would still rather lynch Kalimar but this is fine, too.
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Post Post #802 (isolation #15) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:15 am

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Yes; I do not actually yet know for sure whom I will vig.

What just does not make sense to me is the NK sequence. Why would scum not NK the confirmed PRs?
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Post Post #804 (isolation #16) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:22 am

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He is already dead.
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Post Post #808 (isolation #17) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:46 am

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I think so.
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Post Post #810 (isolation #18) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:35 am

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OMG. Yay!

Not only that, town lynched perfectly.


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Post Post #811 (isolation #19) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:36 am

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Town played really well.
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Post Post #812 (isolation #20) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:38 am

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Sorry you had to replace into such a crappy position, N.
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Post Post #815 (isolation #21) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:21 am

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From my read of the game and my experience in it after I replaced, I can find no criticism with your modding, which was excellent in every way.

I thought the chance of my being NKed was 0%, so there was no compulsion for me to use my Vig shot that night. I was reluctant to Vig someone without even talking to anyone in the game, and the worst case scenario was 3 confirmed town with 5 uncertain and 4 kills, so there was little need for me to Vig that night anyway.
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