Open 543: Pick Your Poison (Game Over!)
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penguin_alien Mafia Scum
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Honestly? Didn't do more than skim the thread overnight since a) there was a one in three chance I'd be dead come morning, and b) I figured the vig would claim (and have shot someone *cough*) making for two fewer slots to sort.
But we'll have three conf-towns and four town-controlled kills. In a field of eight. I'll catch up shortly, preferably after the vig claims so I can do so with maximum info.-
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Aegor Mafia Scum
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No need to be snippy. The massclaim was not a waste of time.
I am the Vig. Yuni vigged BoroPhil for some elusive reason, and I did not see the need to Vig last night given the chances of being NKed.
So the remaining scum is one of {Falcon, Maxous, Beli, Kalimar}.
There are eight players remaining. Each Day/Night cycle eliminates 2 players, which means by tomorrow morning we have 6, the next morning we have 4, and then another lynch. If I Vig, tomorrow we have 5, the next day we have 3, and then another lynch.
So basically I will Vig tonight and only if the scum is the one person we do not kill, we will win this game.Currently partying at the-- a Large Normal for 21 revelers.M A S Q U E R A D E-
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F-16_Fighting_Falcon Mafia Scum
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You forgot to include N in the list of remaining possible scum. With eight players remaining, you being the vig, KK being the IC, and Penguin being the 1X Cop, we have a pool of five {F-16, N, Maxous, Beli, Kalimar} as potential scum. So yeah, you should obviously vig someone tonight and we should win unless we lynch/vig all four townies in our pool of five and leave the scum.In post 778, Aegor wrote:No need to be snippy. The massclaim was not a waste of time.
I am the Vig. Yuni vigged BoroPhil for some elusive reason, and I did not see the need to Vig last night given the chances of being NKed.
So the remaining scum is one of {Falcon, Maxous, Beli, Kalimar}.
There are eight players remaining. Each Day/Night cycle eliminates 2 players, which means by tomorrow morning we have 6, the next morning we have 4, and then another lynch. If I Vig, tomorrow we have 5, the next day we have 3, and then another lynch.
So basically I will Vig tonight and only if the scum is the one person we do not kill, we will win this game.-
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Aegor Mafia Scum
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Yeah, sorry about that. I do not want Falcon lynched today.
The set is {F-16, Beli, Maxous, N, Kalimar}
goodmorning (7): BoroPhil,F-16_Fighting_Falcon, emeraldemon, Kublai Khan, Tammy,[N],[Kalimar]-- Off the wagon:Beli,Maxous
iamausername (6): Powerofdeath, Kublai Khan,Belisarius, emeraldemon,Maxous, iamausername -- Off the wagon:F-16,N,Kalimar
On the first wagon, both N/Yiley and Kalimar/Zekrom have votes that could very easily be bussing. F-16 encouraged people to lynch GM over PoD. That seems unlikely to come from a scum buddy.
Zek FoSed iam but never actually voted. I do not know why he is being townread.
Also worthy of note on Day 1 is Maxous, who correctly pegged both scum team members. Also unlikely to come from the buddies.
My recommendation is that we lynch Kalimar today. I will Vig Yiley tonight. Beli will be lynched tomorrow.Currently partying at the-- a Large Normal for 21 revelers.M A S Q U E R A D E-
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F-16_Fighting_Falcon Mafia Scum
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Aegor, I am townreading Zekrom/Kalimar for the reasons I wrote in Post 710. What are your thoughts about it?
N, I think the most likely scum is you/Yiley but I'll give you a chance to convince me otherwise. I like playing with you and I am hoping I was wrong. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the game. Have you caught up yet?-
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Because I wanted to know if you'd chosen to replace the vig deliberately. If you had, then you couldn't deny your massclaim was a waste of time.In post 783, Aegor wrote:How is that relevant?
You think Yiley is most likely scum? I thought he was obviously town. His play was almost exactly the same as in my Newbie game that you were in. He couldn't explain himself properly and when being suspected, flaked from the game.In post 784, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Aegor, I am townreading Zekrom/Kalimar for the reasons I wrote in Post 710. What are your thoughts about it?
N, I think the most likely scum is you/Yiley but I'll give you a chance to convince me otherwise. I like playing with you and I am hoping I was wrong. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the game. Have you caught up yet?-
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F-16,
That is fine with me. I am Vigging N tonight if he is not lynched today, so we should lynch whomever the town finds scummiest.
Still not following, but I was not given a choice. And even if I had requested a particular replace, I would hope the mod would not honor such a request.N wrote:Because I wanted to know if you'd chosen to replace the vig deliberately. If you had, then you couldn't deny your massclaim was a waste of time.Currently partying at the-- a Large Normal for 21 revelers.M A S Q U E R A D E-
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Here's a scumgame of his (Shadow's Newbie 1451) and his play there wasn't that much different. I don't think the flaking is alignment indicative either.In post 785, N wrote:You think Yiley is most likely scum? I thought he was obviously town. His play was almost exactly the same as in my Newbie game that you were in. He couldn't explain himself properly and when being suspected, flaked from the game.
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I am actually leaning toward it being you, but I have not played with anyone else here (beside pa, and that was a year? ago). You are playing more like you did in my Newibe than my Mini Normal. I know you said you needed to fake all your analysis and confidence and stuff as scum to make it look like your town game, but you do so much more as scum than you actually do as town.In post 787, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Here's a scumgame of his (Shadow's Newbie 1451) and his play there wasn't that much different. I don't think the flaking is alignment indicative either.In post 785, N wrote:You think Yiley is most likely scum? I thought he was obviously town. His play was almost exactly the same as in my Newbie game that you were in. He couldn't explain himself properly and when being suspected, flaked from the game.
Who do you think is scum then?
I'm not sure why Aegor is trusting you so much, though, so I am interested in that too.-
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F-16_Fighting_Falcon Mafia Scum
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Yeah, I fake analysis as scum. I have to because I post analysis as town. That still makes it null unless you can comment on the quality of the analysis which you haven't.
I am surprised you are not seeing why my play doesn't make sense as scum at all. D1, I pushed Iam as scum even when some people were townreading him. But okay, you can't rule out bussing. Then he claimed. Then I hopped off the wagon and pushed GM's lynch instead. That's something I'd never do as scum because it is so suboptimal and harms the scum. I'd probably continue pushing Iam for the towncred since he was doomed anyways, or settle for a POD lynch. What I wouldn't do is bus my other buddy (the one that had a chance of making it through). I probably wouldn't be that adamant about getting GM lynched either.
Pedit: I am much more sure it is N based on the way he entered the game. You'll probably vig me if I am wrong but I don't think it will come to that. I am banking on the game ending. I don't think that Kalimar is scum. All his predecessors felt town.-
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Aegor Mafia Scum
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So we can lynch N. I will then Vig you. Kali is therefore the lynch for tomorrow.
I feel the best about Maxous surviving until endgame. If everyone agrees, no one should have a problem with lynches of everyone else who is not confirmed.Currently partying at the-- a Large Normal for 21 revelers.M A S Q U E R A D E-
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I'm okay with N being lynched. He's just throwing out a bunch of weak mostly context-less meta.
besides I can't think of who else the scum could be. I guess maybe beli but that's a big maybe."And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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In post 791, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Yeah, I fake analysis as scum. I have to because I post analysis as town. That still makes it null unless you can comment on the quality of the analysis which you haven't.
???In post 788, N wrote:but you do so much more as scum than you actually do as town.-
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Yeah, you are.In post 795, N wrote:Fuck that shit. I'm not dying the same day I replace into a game.
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After some thought, my only problem with the F16/Aegor plan is that if Maxous is the last scum, we lose, because we'd wind up in a 3p lylo with {me, Maxous, one confTown}. I doubt I can win that fight. My lylo record as town isabyssmal.
I'm confident enough in townFalcon to volunteer to be the vig shot for tonight just to keep me out of lylo.-
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