In post 9, chilledtea wrote: In post 7, Almost50 wrote:
I support the notion wholeheartedly. I just thought I'd give him the chance to shout at us first.
Well I can't wait for him to tunnel me throughout day 1. That is my prediction. Him going around saying "ChilleDTEACUP IS SCUM!KSUSL@!#JEHFADA".
Generally, you wait for someone to post a little before you say they are scum but I already know what he is going to say so might as well vote him for being scum.
Struck me as odd.
Why I hopped on the shotty wagon again. Sarcastic "yes I'm scum" post. That is all.
In post 92, Almost50 wrote: In post 88, chilledtea wrote:In my opinion drmyshottyizsik is scum. He reacted way too seriously to my joke post.
Ah. OK. I see your point. Not a convincing case IMHO, but I can't argue against it either. Your vote is fine.
Quote above is the reasoning. It's circumstantial at best. So I wanted to vote Almost.
In post 109, Rhaegar wrote:Hi guys. Replacing in. This is an alt account. Haven't played for about a year or so.
VOTE: Snarkysnowman
Have good reason to believe he is scum. More detail is below in the spoiler. This is the summary.
1. At the opening of the game he admits that shotty is an easy lynch and puts a vote on him. That, by itself, isn't bad, you have to vote for something at the beginning. What bothers me is that even with this knowledge, he then jumps on a shotty wagon in actually seriousness in post 36. If Snowman is as certain of shotty's meta of early lynches, you would think that he would be more cautious about a bandwagon on him, but he is not. That strikes me as odd.
2.
post 47. In it he shamelessly eggs on an already bad post by Killthestory along with trying to buddy up to him. Again, with his knowledge of shotty's meta this seems suspicious.
3.
post 97. Snowman says that he thinks there is a shotty/almost scumteam. But he moves his vote from shotty to almost. This strikes me as also very disingenuous. If you think two people are scum, why take your vote off the one with a bandwagon and place it onto the one without a bandwagon? That makes literally no sense from a town perspective of someone who genuinely thinks shotty is scum. Pushing a wagon without placing your vote on it is scummy as hell.
Shotty can be a sarcastic asshole sometimes. I know, cause I've played with him before a long time back. That's a neutral tell with him. I'd be more suspicious if he wasn't acting like this.
His behavior isn't indicative of his alignment.
What does interested me, however, is the people jumping on his bandwagon right away. Shotty is an easy lynch. I can't say I'd personally shed a tear if he was given the noose myself. But I do think there was some opportunism with the votes on his bandwagon.
There are always players who tend to be easy lynches, sometimes due to the fact that they may not always conform to the norms of play and therefor say/do things that would otherwise be scummy in the context of a normal player. I think those are good bandwagons to look at for scum, as mafia can get away with the "well he shoudln't have acted scum if he didn't want to get lynched" as their get-out-of-lynch-responsibility-card afterward.
Ain't that the truth.
Seems to be the fuel behind my wagon right now. However it's pretty clear my read on shotty was pretty halfhearted.
In post 139, Killthestory wrote:Snarky is scum. He sheeps me and blatantly buddies me, but then he gut reads me as scum as soon as I start disagreeing with him? Yeah right.
Rhea far is town. Town lean on Lowell just because I was pressuring him, but my gut said he was town. Rhaegar's explanations were also satisfactory, and it helped in his case. Well done.
Shotty is clearly town, but he's being useless. I suppose this isn't alignment indicative, but I wish he could be a little more helpful
That's kinda a stretch. I'd hardly taken the game seriously by that point.
ftr stuff like this is why I was gutreading scum for kts.
In post 190, Autti wrote:One thing that Snarky did that i find curios is that he re-posted the 2 quotes from KilltheStory, that Lowell had already done.
Instead of referencing the original pickup (Lowell) he did it himself for the sweet sweet town cred.
Minor point, but something i always look out for when someone else is trying to gain cred as opposed to just hunting.
I didn't notice this part tbh. And on double check, that seems to be a straight up lie. Where did Lowell do that? I didn't find that.
Then I saw it was shotty and not lowell. Which, eh. Still weaksauce.
In post 224, pistachi0n wrote:VOTE: KillTheStory
I don't like how he's desperately using self-meta to get us not to vote for him. He's said he plays even more aggressively as scum, but he also said his scum play has gotten him banned before. If anything, that would incentivize him to tone down the aggression. Regardless, his self-meta is coming across as desperate. He's my top scumread at the current moment.
Speaking of weaksauce...
In post 260, chilledtea wrote:Anyone else who agrees with the statement that rhaegar's interaction with shotty being strange?
Not really, I do that fairly often (defend players I think are town, that is).
In post 267, Killthestory wrote:can we lynch Snarky for real though? He's blatantly lied about his seriousness in the game, and he's pushing wagons that are probably mislynches.
Said the pot to the kettle.
In post 274, Killthestory wrote:No social issues. I've got a girlfriend, ton of friends, etc. Clearly I'm not bandwagoning since I didn't vote you. Provocative? Probably, I try to win all my arguments, and then it's hard for me to back off a losing position. Pot Stirring? Nah, I don't like drama. Scum? Nah, I'm definitely town.
Having a girlfriend is pretty irrelevant, though congrats. Pot stirring for certain, and possibly scum.
In post 296, Killthestory wrote:id rather be called an asshole then a scum because only one of those is true. the other is lie that is meant to hurt my feelings.
The asshole part is the lie meant to hurt your feelings, meaning you're scum?
In post 348, drmyshottyizsik wrote: In post 346, Killthestory wrote: In post 326, pisskop wrote:
Weve got another player acting like hes selling lemonade at the white house and a third who's putting in so much effort my eyes bleed when I look at this post.
this is actually a hilarious description of me. im going to use this in the future
Kind of a stretch, I think.
In post 371, Almost50 wrote: In post 368, drmyshottyizsik wrote:You are voting for him because he prod dodged? Also you a quoting a vote that was nothing more than a prod dodge as well. No reasons literally just a vote tag. Something is wrong here.
SS is lurking big time and contributing nothing. It's suspicious but not an exclusive indication, so I want him to claim. Anyone who loohammers will be a PL of mine.
Not going to claim yet. Half the votes on me are pretty silly.
In post 389, pistachi0n wrote:I'm not really a fan of the Snarky wagon right now. Rhaegar has some good analysis in his iso of why he scumreads snarky. The other players haven't given reasons. Autti in particular seemed scummy jumping on in
360 and
361. Trying to seem nonchalant and all. I'm starting to think KTS is just an annoying troll, so
VOTE: Autti
First pistachion post I like.