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Sorry, I wasn't asking you to explain how to play mafia. I know you guys don't know me, but that's only because I've been gone for awhile.In post 942, LicketyQuickety wrote:
First: Don't give it away if you are a PR.In post 941, Formerfish wrote:Hi guys. What should I know before I start my read through?
Second: Scum hunt.
Third: Lynch Sum.
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In post 29, PenguinPower wrote:There's this great movie called Equilibrium...I don't know if it is important that I dont understand.
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If you reported this, then there is a good chance you are not going to like my style of play, word choice, or anything else about me. Also, I usually find that people who get butt hurt by comments tend to become my scum reads. I feel like town would have tougher skin than that.In post 239, ThinkBig wrote:
Message reported. No need for this.In post 237, Cheesy wrote:The only thing you caught is your dick which you apparently like to stroke ferociously
(I know that I havent posted anything prior to this, but this just stood out on my read through, I have some other shit I am still working on.)-
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Because town doesnt give a fuck about making waves. Being town brings a swagger i havent seen since Macklemore walked into that club wearing gator shoes. Town would fire back and hit harder, looking for any signs of wavering. Scums mission here is to get rid of town players right? Does it matter how that gets done? If someone is mod killed or kicked from the game then it eliminates a threat in a townie, and a strong player (depending).-
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In post 489, Cheesy wrote:I can tell you where you can put pre-flip associations. Hint: it's not a pleasant place.
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Ok, I am current. I am willing to go into my reads with anyone who wants to know more. I am not going to make a huge wall post spanning all the stupid shit you guys have fought about, that would make me want to vomit.
Town: Cheesy, Titus, Grey
Townish: Culted, Vax
Null: Aron, Snarky
Scummy: Tojam, nn30
Scum: Think, Gamma, Lickity
We have 4 days from now to decide where to go. I dont remember any votes changing after that vote count, so i think it could be accurate. I don't like the votes on a dead slot, it tells us nothing since you can pressure someone who isnt there. Gamma being on Think means that i believe bussing is occuring, im ok with that I bus as scum.In post 866, Ümläüt wrote:
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And if he's a PR?In post 1030, LicketyQuickety wrote:
And he will still be around tomorrow if we don't lynch him today. What are good reasons to keep him in the game? If there are none, he should be policy lynched.In post 1027, Formerfish wrote:I don't like policy lynches unless they serve another purpose as well. We would get nothing from lynching SS based on policy since he barely has any interactions for associations, we aren't in a position where we are going to nolynch, and there are scummier dudes than him in this game.-
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Im not going to hold those reads against her. How the fuck did I not finish a sentence?In post 1034, Formerfish wrote:Culted reminds me of myself as new town. I saw dragons when there were only windmills and charged towards them with reckless abandon. I was wrong a shit ton to, so I'm not going to hold a few reads we disagree on.-
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Totes don't. Sorry, not sorry. If you want me to elaborate on where that read came from you'll have to wait. Do you see scum in her?In post 1037, -Grey- wrote:
This is bad and you should feel bad.In post 1034, Formerfish wrote:Culted reminds me of myself as new town. I saw dragons when there were only windmills and charged towards them with reckless abandon. I was wrong a shit ton to, so I'm not going to hold a few reads we disagree on.-
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Because at this point I am trying to asses where you are coming from on this and the question is a necessary one for me to do that. Why do you get to decide what questions are necessary to someone else?
Ninja: I don't think she's been overly aggressive, but I do feel like she has reads and she is making an attempt to go after them. With more info we can determine if those efforts were genuine or for show. Right now I am seeing town notes in her song. Doesn't mean they are there in reality, like you said we all have our own bias.-
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Is pocketing a newish term? I'm fairly certain I've never seen that one used before.In post 1053, LicketyQuickety wrote:
We think of it differently then. Sometimes there is a lot of talk about who is pocketing who.In post 1052, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Not really. I've been whiteknighted and ended up seeing through it.In post 1051, LicketyQuickety wrote:Pocketing is the same as White Knighting.-
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Vax- Gamma is scum because of early game interaction I read as off and the fact that she voted vedith for role fishing knowing that it was a joke between two people who just played a game very similar where the person in question was in fact the cop in that game. That comes off as scum parking a vote on some bullshit.-
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Did you miss where I gave reads, and then voted for Think? You do see the VC putting him at l-2?In post 1065, tojam2 wrote:Grey is either the best scum player or Realeo was as bad as I said.
I'm not really seeing a lot about TB these past few, pages, has it been given up on? Maybe it's best to do a no-lynch based on the low chance of landing scum.
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This feels like coaching to me. Does the thread say anything about scum having day talk? I doubt it as most time that is not normal. I also get a hint of stuffiness coming from this post, it's like a robotic answer that should come from town.In post 1066, ThinkBig wrote:
IMO a no lynch is a bad idea. Town should lynch every day. By lynching, we are at least getting informationIn post 1065, tojam2 wrote:Grey is either the best scum player or Realeo was as bad as I said.
I'm not really seeing a lot about TB these past few, pages, has it been given up on? Maybe it's best to do a no-lynch based on the low chance of landing scum.-
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This doesn't make sense to me. We were obviously out of RVS during the time you had your vote parked on him. And it's awfully convenient that the person you had an RVS vote somehow became your real vote based off some shit you obviously knew about from prior game experience. See below:In post 1062, Gamma Emerald wrote:
It was RVS so I decided to leave the vote.In post 1059, Formerfish wrote:Vax- Gamma is scum because of early game interaction I read as off and the fact that she voted vedith for role fishing knowing that it was a joke between two people who just played a game very similar where the person in question was in fact the cop in that game. That comes off as scum parking a vote on some bullshit.
RVS vote.In post 6, Gamma Emerald wrote:Mod you have many missing names in the VC
VOTE: Vedith
I am Town and you should all trust me that this is scum.
This is when your vote became serious, even though what he was doing would be incredibly stupid from either side of the aisle.In post 21, Gamma Emerald wrote:Vedith is rolefishing, vote him.
This is a response to someone mentioning the game you all played (or they played) that would bring everyone in on the joke. This shows that you had prior knowledge of what was being discussed but still saw it as scummy regardless.
Again acknowledging the fact that you were aware of the history, and more than likely knew why the cop question was a joke.In post 38, Gamma Emerald wrote:
They do.In post 37, Cheesy wrote:I don't imagine anybody would out themselves to potential scum just cause he's asking nicely. Maybe these two have a history together that I don't know of.
If they would make that joke regardless of alignment then what do you have? A non-alignment indicative statement. Yet your vote it still on him.In post 60, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't get how LQ can figure that type of thing from such a minor interaction. It's mainly just a reference to a previous game, I think they'd make it anyway if they were scum together.
In post 65, Gamma Emerald wrote:It still feels like rolefishing, so it's an okay vote. I understand the joke but until Vedith towns up a bit I'm still considering that a bit scummy.
230 posts later you switch votes. During that span you barely mentioned Vedith, and when you did you mentioned he was just a troll and when someone asked how he and cheesy towned something up you replied with how did they act scummy. With your real vote still sitting on him.In post 290, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not impressed by TB. He seems to be pushing Cheesy on play he knows is the player's town play.
VOTE: ThinkBig-
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If being at l-2 was the basis for his claim, why wasn't the claim made here then? If he were a mislynch waiting to happen with scum off the wagon he wouldnt have wanted to leave such an opportunity for a l-1 and a hammer while he was away. I guess he was never really scared of the l-2 vote, but he wanted to act like he was.In post 1064, ThinkBig wrote:v/la for today
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In post 1131, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Fish: I still didn't have anyone I felt neede voting until TB, and I felt that my reasoning on the Vedith vote wasn't completely idiotic, so I left it until I found a better vote.
You could have put pressure here since you clearly thought that Lickety was making mountains out of molehills.In post 60, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't get how LQ can figure that type of thing from such a minor interaction. It's mainly just a reference to a previous game, I think they'd make it anyway if they were scum together.
Or here for what you think is a weak reason to vote someone.In post 87, Gamma Emerald wrote:
That feels like a reach.In post 84, aronagrundy wrote:VOTE: thinkbig
I feel like post 70 is them egging lickety on to go after realeo.
And you had a bit of a run with realeo as well, could have put it there.
Again I feel like it was an easy place for you to park your vote based on a bullshit reason. It reads scummy to me.-
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In post 1085, Gamma Emerald wrote:Top 3 town
Grey, Cheesy, tojam
Top 3 scum
TB, Vax, LQ
had this completed but got sidetracked
You know its never nice to leave your date at the dance for another person. Unless you are more comfortable with that person because you know they are your scum buddy and you can curl up next to them and snuggle.In post 1087, Formerfish wrote:Do you have reasons for anyone or are we going gut on all those?-
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Does something being brought back up have a significance towards alignment? Cause I found these oddly out of place when i did my read through.In post 1097, LicketyQuickety wrote:
The more important question is why is this being dragged up now rather than earlier.In post 1096, -Grey- wrote:
If you can't even remember why you would go after someone the following day today, then I have to doubt the veracity of your remark.In post 1093, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I can't remember exactly, but I think it was because he voted your slot.In post 1092, -Grey- wrote:
Why would you go after tojam specifically upon my flip?In post 793, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm going after Tojam if Real (slot) flips Town.
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Explain to me exactly what type of player you think I am.In post 91, aronagrundy wrote:@gamma
Maybe, but I feel like lickety is the type of player (they said themselves that they were firing from the hip i think) that scum could use for distractions/blame later for a mislynch. So I'm interested in how others interact with him.In post 295, LicketyQuickety wrote:
How do these posts relate?In post 156, Cheesy wrote:I don't see ThinkingBig as mafia for the moment.In post 296, LicketyQuickety wrote:
AtEIn post 177, Cheesy wrote:I think our differences come from the fact I have experience mostly in real life mafia where interactions are different and you get instant feedback from everybody. It's difficult to adjust.-
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All of them.In post 1139, Gamma Emerald wrote:
They all have reasons. Which ones are you curious about?In post 1136, Formerfish wrote:In post 1085, Gamma Emerald wrote:Top 3 town
Grey, Cheesy, tojam
Top 3 scum
TB, Vax, LQ
had this completed but got sidetracked
You know its never nice to leave your date at the dance for another person. Unless you are more comfortable with that person because you know they are your scum buddy and you can curl up next to them and snuggle.In post 1087, Formerfish wrote:Do you have reasons for anyone or are we going gut on all those?
Is this your first game? Shit, is this the first time someone has ever asked you a question in real life? I asked for your top 3 reads on both sides and reasons for both. You are being evasive and I am about to ask the judge for the right to treat you as a hostile witness. Now please stop beating around the bush and answer a direct question.-
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This is strike number 2 for Lickety in my book. The first was that other time where he laid out a town read then took it back for one reason, and they did the same to me for the opposite. Scum tend to flap whichever way the wind is going at that point.In post 1104, LicketyQuickety wrote:
What is your point here, darling?In post 1103, -Grey- wrote:
I knew you were going to ask that!LicketyQuickety wrote:
Reasons, k?In post 1100, -Grey- wrote:
That's rather obvious. I missed it earlier and Gamma brought it back upIn post 1097, LicketyQuickety wrote:
The more important question is why is this being dragged up now rather than earlier.In post 1096, -Grey- wrote:
If you can't even remember why you would go after someone the following day today, then I have to doubt the veracity of your remark.In post 1093, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I can't remember exactly, but I think it was because he voted your slot.In post 1092, -Grey- wrote:
Why would you go after tojam specifically upon my flip?In post 793, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm going after Tojam if Real (slot) flips Town.
VOTE: LQ
My scumread on you has been building and I'm pretty happy lynching here today.
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Is this for in case your lynch goes through your buddies will know not to kill Grey to drive us nuts with WIFOM?In post 1117, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Nice accusation. Clearly you will not be NKed if I am lynched.In post 1114, -Grey- wrote:
Comments like this is why you're scum.In post 1113, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Not sure. There are a lot of underplaying decent players in this game. Some sly characters here.In post 1111, -Grey- wrote:LQ, who's scum?
I'd you thought there were underplaying decent characters, you'd be pissed at them for not playing optimally.
Instead, you are saying they are playing very well (Sly characters) yet "underplaying".
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What gives you that idea? I have an idea of what you are going to say, but I want you to say it.In post 1134, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Good point. I have half a mind to think there is not even a 1-shot cop in the game actually.In post 1132, Formerfish wrote:
If being at l-2 was the basis for his claim, why wasn't the claim made here then? If he were a mislynch waiting to happen with scum off the wagon he wouldnt have wanted to leave such an opportunity for a l-1 and a hammer while he was away. I guess he was never really scared of the l-2 vote, but he wanted to act like he was.In post 1064, ThinkBig wrote:v/la for today
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Trust me, I get that (notice I had already unvoted). I just wanted to make sure to point out the inconsistencies with his reasoning when he remains alive tomorrow.In post 1135, -Grey- wrote:
Doesn't matter, he's not being lynched today.In post 1132, Formerfish wrote:
If being at l-2 was the basis for his claim, why wasn't the claim made here then? If he were a mislynch waiting to happen with scum off the wagon he wouldnt have wanted to leave such an opportunity for a l-1 and a hammer while he was away. I guess he was never really scared of the l-2 vote, but he wanted to act like he was.In post 1064, ThinkBig wrote:v/la for today
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If he's town, scum will kill either him or me. Whomever scum doesn't kill gets sorted tomorrow.-
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To be clear, its because I am a huge fan of bussing on day 1 as scum. There is so much room to make it seem like you are scum hunting on someone you know has no chance of being rung up. And for the record, thats like the 3rd time you've given me towncred. Please leave some of the d for the rest of the group.In post 1147, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I give you credit for not Town reading me just because I am voting Gamma. This is why I think you are Town.In post 1143, Formerfish wrote:
Does something being brought back up have a significance towards alignment? Cause I found these oddly out of place when i did my read through.In post 1097, LicketyQuickety wrote:
The more important question is why is this being dragged up now rather than earlier.In post 1096, -Grey- wrote:
If you can't even remember why you would go after someone the following day today, then I have to doubt the veracity of your remark.In post 1093, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I can't remember exactly, but I think it was because he voted your slot.In post 1092, -Grey- wrote:
Why would you go after tojam specifically upon my flip?In post 793, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm going after Tojam if Real (slot) flips Town.
In post 294, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Explain to me exactly what type of player you think I am.In post 91, aronagrundy wrote:@gamma
Maybe, but I feel like lickety is the type of player (they said themselves that they were firing from the hip i think) that scum could use for distractions/blame later for a mislynch. So I'm interested in how others interact with him.In post 295, LicketyQuickety wrote:
How do these posts relate?In post 156, Cheesy wrote:I don't see ThinkingBig as mafia for the moment.In post 296, LicketyQuickety wrote:
AtEIn post 177, Cheesy wrote:I think our differences come from the fact I have experience mostly in real life mafia where interactions are different and you get instant feedback from everybody. It's difficult to adjust.-
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I was going to go with pussy footing, but I didn't want to run the risk of offending anyones delicate sensibilities.In post 1149, -Grey- wrote:
Heh hehIn post 1145, Formerfish wrote:beating around the bush
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Are you always this reckless with your votes? You haven't seen a recent vc, yet you vote him anyways even though it could be l-2, l-1, hammer vote, or even put him in close enough position to have someone else vote him "oooppsss by acccident" and then we have a whole other can of WIFOM to choke down.In post 1155, nn30 wrote:I am not town reading Cheesy/Realo(Realo's replacement?) and Vedith/Vedith's replacement) as well as Gamma.
Light town read on Arona too.
I love having 10 pages to work with - it gives me a chance at a birds eye view of the game (similar to replacing in but not exact).
I think LQ is scum.
VOTE: LQ
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What? Who becomes the confirmed town in this situation?In post 1161, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Its a trade. If TB is Scum, then they can trade a confirmed Town for a living Mafia. It also muddles the field for late game.In post 1157, Formerfish wrote:
What gives you that idea? I have an idea of what you are going to say, but I want you to say it.In post 1134, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Good point. I have half a mind to think there is not even a 1-shot cop in the game actually.In post 1132, Formerfish wrote:
If being at l-2 was the basis for his claim, why wasn't the claim made here then? If he were a mislynch waiting to happen with scum off the wagon he wouldnt have wanted to leave such an opportunity for a l-1 and a hammer while he was away. I guess he was never really scared of the l-2 vote, but he wanted to act like he was.In post 1064, ThinkBig wrote:v/la for today
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That's true to a point, but its not a hard rule. Scum can make use of confusion and lack of vc's to place some shitty votes that we then have to analyze to death to figure out if he was stupid, or scum.In post 1165, -Grey- wrote:IME, scum tends to be more careful about vote placement than town anyway, so that's null.-
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Bold is me, obvi. Also, why say you think one of your scum is wrong without trying to figure out which one?In post 1150, Gamma Emerald wrote:Grey has said things that are suicide as scum.Such as?
Cheesy was for TB's push.In general?
Tojam is for LQ's pushIn general?
TB misused meta, and bandwagoned on the Vedith/Realeo debate
Vax bandwagoned on the V/R debate and used rather low tacticsLow tactics?
LQ bandwagoned on the V/R debate
I'm thinking one of my scumreads is wrong though, because the scum wouldn't throw all of themselves on the V/R conflict like that.-
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Fair enough, Grey. I tend to see it as a bit more of a scum tell myself, only for the fact that I feel like a town member I make sure to not do anything stupid that would hurt the town. So I would make extra sure to know where people were in the vcs. As scum I am the kind of person who would make a stupid vote knowing that I am about to talk my way out of it when it comes time.-
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