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In post 217, LicketyQuickety wrote:VOTE: chilledtea
I haven't seen much from this slot yet, would like to see more. And before anyone gives me crap about voting someone based on inactivity this early in the game:
This is the most substantial thing this slot has done yet.In post 131, chilledtea wrote:Eric is prob town, dave probably town too. Both seem like lynchbaity players. Self-voting is done by extremely good scum players as scum tactic though, so if dave is very experienced at this. Otherwise very common among newb town players.In post 123, chilledtea wrote:Hi guys. Didn't have a clue this started and haven't yet read anything. Just posting to not get replaced. Don't have time yet to catch up will do later.-
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Why alban?In post 219, Transcend wrote:i
Cause I am town reading him.
Aubrey is my scum read. I didn't like they way he went for eric during dave's wagon, while giving a possibility of eric being newb. His post gave reason as "yes eric can be newb but he could also be scum doing his thing" like that can be said about anything on this planet.
Lick (replacer of eric) is also a town read.
I am kinda suspicious of lethargy though. Like I don't remember anything special from them.-
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?In post 229, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Hmm..In post 227, chilledtea wrote:Key's prob town too, btw.
My scum group atm is lethargy, aubrey, transcend and toto. Transcend is obviously a very good scum player so he is there just for no reason.
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Well I give reasons where I can. Sometimes the reasons are difficult to give. I think I gave reasons for my suspicion on aubrey for example. But key on the other hand, the read is dependent on his posting style. He is actually a semi town read at this point. Not a strong one.In post 233, LicketyQuickety wrote:
you didn't provide any evidence to support your reads. This means either think you know your reads are good and have a meta that is conductive of such or you think the reason for your reads is self evident or you know that at this stage of the game you don't really have to provide reasons for your reads.In post 231, chilledtea wrote:
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Hmm..In post 227, chilledtea wrote:Key's prob town too, btw.
My scum group atm is lethargy, aubrey, transcend and toto. Transcend is obviously a very good scum player so he is there just for no reason.
You are not new to this game, I think.
The first two options likely make you Town, but the third worries me.
In fact I kinda have given a reason for almost every read I've. Lethargy, aubrey, transcend, you, dave. Where do you feel the lack of reasons?-
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Initially the timing felt as if you were trying to derail the wagon on dave. It could also have been a vote, while not for derailing, for distancing.
Sometimes scum try to stay away from the topic at hand. Even if they don't want to directly influence the said topic.
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I don't like this post at all.In post 274, Aubrey wrote:
And your case against Keyen or I is that much thicker?In post 267, alban wrote:
Your case against Eric was thin. Which is why I wrote 134.In post 253, Aubrey wrote:
I've basically skimmed the last 3-4 pages. On a skim, I'm much happier with the slot. As I said, my major issue with him was his contraditive attitude. "In post 249, chilledtea wrote:Initially the timing felt as if you were trying to derail the wagon on dave. It could also have been a vote, while not for derailing, for distancing.
Sometimes scum try to stay away from the topic at hand. Even if they don't want to directly influence the said topic.
Do you still find eric's slot scummy?Hey guys lets narrow down some lynch options right out the gate and get a move on, while I go sit in the corner and do nothing but complain!" When BTD said he asked for a replacement, I basically nulled the spot of its ever so light scum lean since it is so early in the game.
Regarding Dave, I just found his early posts playful shitty early day 1 activities. Eh. The argument that town would never vote themselves is farfetched, and a lie. Yea. Not a very interesting wagon in my eyes right out the gate.
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Holy shit this game is on fire this morning.
Either what you are saying is true or you are backtracking coz you realised LQ is more active and persistent than Eric.
Also your backtracking and explanation appears defensive, and hence, suspicious.
My argument: X person looks as if they maybe attempting to be faking a proactive town stance.
Your arguments: X person is pushing a thin argument early game. X person is lurky-ish,.but I'll ignore other players who are also lurky-ish
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The comparison of arguments. It is meaningless unless you know for certain that one set of argument has to be correct.Aubrey wrote:
Explain.In post 275, chilledtea wrote:
I don't like this post at all.In post 274, Aubrey wrote:
And your case against Keyen or I is that much thicker?In post 267, alban wrote:
Your case against Eric was thin. Which is why I wrote 134.In post 253, Aubrey wrote:
I've basically skimmed the last 3-4 pages. On a skim, I'm much happier with the slot. As I said, my major issue with him was his contraditive attitude. "In post 249, chilledtea wrote:Initially the timing felt as if you were trying to derail the wagon on dave. It could also have been a vote, while not for derailing, for distancing.
Sometimes scum try to stay away from the topic at hand. Even if they don't want to directly influence the said topic.
Do you still find eric's slot scummy?Hey guys lets narrow down some lynch options right out the gate and get a move on, while I go sit in the corner and do nothing but complain!" When BTD said he asked for a replacement, I basically nulled the spot of its ever so light scum lean since it is so early in the game.
Regarding Dave, I just found his early posts playful shitty early day 1 activities. Eh. The argument that town would never vote themselves is farfetched, and a lie. Yea. Not a very interesting wagon in my eyes right out the gate.
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Holy shit this game is on fire this morning.
Either what you are saying is true or you are backtracking coz you realised LQ is more active and persistent than Eric.
Also your backtracking and explanation appears defensive, and hence, suspicious.
My argument: X person looks as if they maybe attempting to be faking a proactive town stance.
Your arguments: X person is pushing a thin argument early game. X person is lurky-ish,.but I'll ignore other players who are also lurky-ish
This feels very much like scum aubrey vs town alban.
Meaning, say alban's arguments are correct/consistent because he is town.
You comparing your set of arguments to his, either to solidify your set of arguments in his eyes (silly since he could be scum) or to weaken his set of arguments (not possible since that would mean you are scum). There is not much point to be made with that comparison in my eyes.-
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VOTE : Lethargy
This slot is 100% scum. Aubrey has moved up in my eyes. Currently looking at scum possibilities of lethargy, gamma and transcend, maybe ssbm and toto and cracker.
Cracker and deer haven't done much from what I gather.
Don't like gamma at all and he is my next best guess for scum.
Transcend is doing very little in comparison to his meta. His vote on toto is also unexplained.-
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It feels fake. Extremely brief in nature and seems like it is done with the intent of looking like doing something rather than honest.In post 443, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Really? They at least provided a reads list. More than a lot of people have done.In post 441, chilledtea wrote:That post from lethargy where he/she gives his "analysis" of the game when pushed was the most ridiculous one.-
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The fact that it is brief and covers a large spectrum of players. There is a small tonal shift in their posts as well from the beginning of the game.In post 445, LicketyQuickety wrote:
What cues you in specifically to tell you it looks "fake?"In post 444, chilledtea wrote:
It feels fake. Extremely brief in nature and seems like it is done with the intent of looking like doing something rather than honest.In post 443, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Really? They at least provided a reads list. More than a lot of people have done.In post 441, chilledtea wrote:That post from lethargy where he/she gives his "analysis" of the game when pushed was the most ridiculous one.
Remember their post where they say how it is time for them to start doing something (because of my earlier suspicion on them)?
They are lurking and seem disconnected from the game, even with this small reads list. They seem to have not much interest in directly interacting with others and frankly writing two lines on several people's play is easier.-
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Aubrey is my town read for several reasons, he has followed my line of thinking regarding some events in the game and I find that to be difficult to be replicated by a scum member.
Alban is a town read.
LQ is still a semi town read but I didn't like his push on alban.
Lethargy, gamma are still my scumspects and nothing has changed since my last reads list.
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Because I wasn't seeing anything scummy in alban's behaviour.In post 794, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Why didn't you like my push?In post 793, chilledtea wrote:Aubrey is my town read for several reasons, he has followed my line of thinking regarding some events in the game and I find that to be difficult to be replicated by a scum member.
Alban is a town read.
LQ is still a semi town read but I didn't like his push on alban.
Lethargy, gamma are still my scumspects and nothing has changed since my last reads list.
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I feel like a lot of all the conversations that are happening are happening with town themselves and scum are just hiding amongst lurkers.
My scum read on lethargy is very big and while alban might think that we don't get information from their lynch, we will get info from NK regardless and there is a great chance of getting a scum catch from it.
Also after all this I am still null-ish on ssbm - I haven't a read on him. Key was a town read earlier on during his interactions with, I think aubrey???
I am also fine with a gamma lynch but it is sad that there is little information on cracker, deer, who have basically done nothing. Deer's initial post was definitely scummy as someone else pointed it out.
Lynching LQ would be very bad for the game state if he is town, whereas if he is scum we can take care of it later on as well. At the moment I don't see the scum-LQ angle.
Transcend is being transcend I rather not lynch him for being silly. I don't think he is scum.-
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It isn't that I town read him, as much as I haven't yet seen much reason to scum read him. He does play like this as town, he is very reckless. I remember him playing a newbie with me and he got lynched on day 1 - he generally has good reads though.
Problem is, scum transcend is actually very good. But making silly jokes, and jumping around is something town transcend does seem to do.-
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VOTE : ssbm_Kyouko
"I have a scum read on alban. If alban is scum, then transcend is scum. If transcend is town however, he will be nkd. BTW I am going to sheep transcend bcoz he tends to have good reads."
If you are town this is the most ridiculous line of thought ever. Sheeping someone who is your possible scum read is just ridiculous.-
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alban, I think aubrey is town. I feel his contributions to this game as very honest, although in the beginning he pinged me a bit but it was minor compared to his play overall.
I have been thinking a lot about that ssbm post. I want to see him reply and converse more before he is lynched. At the moment there are 4 votes on him, 7 needed to lynch. Don't lynch him before he gets a chance to respond.-
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UNVOTE : ssbm_Kyouko
Is there anything against toto? Only reason I am asking is because he didn't ping me that much although I am getting pretty confused because of all the stuff that is useless between dave, toto, cracker, lethargy and deers.
VOTE : Deimos27
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Well if you notice aubrey he is generally in the maybe category and that was because of practically doing things in the game that went above my observation - re-reading his ISO makes me feel that he is likely a newish town player. His contribution is still more than someone like dave whose only reason to have escaped my scum radar is his self-vote. Which is not much.-
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Guys you need to know that Kain Tepes and I have played before and he might chase after me - he has done that literally in every game we have played together. He tends to capitalize his posts and basically act like a young boy but I doubt he his indeed a young boy (Sorry if you are a young boy, KT).
He also plays like this regardless of his alignment and hence is very successful as scum because people cannot read him properly.
At the moment he seems to be putting more effort than what he used to do in the past.-
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KT, I don't have a concise view on Toto unfortunately. I feel sincerity in some of his posts and hence I felt it might be a mislynch. However aubrey made a point about him sticking to dave for a very long time, which is indeed a good point.
However, dave himself isn't doing anything special and I am not sure if dave is indeed an easy target.-
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I am pretty sure there is something to learn from anyone's flip. I believe that one should vote according to their reads unless deadline forces them to do otherwise.
Toto seems like a very randomly picked mislynch at this point. Between dave, toto, lethargy, deers, cracker(KT) we could have basically picked anyone, and we have little reason to differentiate between these slots.-
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Terrible logic.In post 1232, Toto wrote:Still alive!
Aubrey's reaction is a bit worrying but I think scum!Aubrey doesn't make sense because they would not try to get rid of me since Ive been openly town reading them.
Getting out of bed, will post more thoughts in a few hours.
VOTE : PsychoticDave
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I don't use vote tags. I feel it looks better with the bold.In post 1247, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Why didn't you use vote tags?In post 1245, chilledtea wrote:
Terrible logic.In post 1232, Toto wrote:Still alive!
Aubrey's reaction is a bit worrying but I think scum!Aubrey doesn't make sense because they would not try to get rid of me since Ive been openly town reading them.
Getting out of bed, will post more thoughts in a few hours.
VOTE : PsychoticDave
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Lynch this please.In post 1323, PsychoticDave wrote:Lynch me for being inactive instead of someone who can give us information.
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Why don't you go back to wherever you were when you weren't threatened with a wagon?In post 1339, PsychoticDave wrote:The Town here is as stupid as in Town of Salem.
That's sad.
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Hi transcend.
VOTE : Transcend
This is no longer day 1 thank you very much.
To LQ, the reason why I have {vedith, LQ} is because there are only three scum, and such, not that you both cannot be scum together.
SSBM, please tell me about gamma's inconsistency if possible, through links and posts. I would like to look into that.-
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So where did alban clear someone?In post 1614, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Why would alban!scum point up something that cleared someone? They want all the mislynch opportunities they can get.In post 1606, chilledtea wrote:Okay that is indeed a very good point SSBM.
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Because scum tend to make up reads and forget them sometimes. It is a valid problem.In post 1616, alban wrote:A reverse q to Chilled, ssbm and keyen and whoever else thinking gamma's turnaround on me is scummy:
Why would Gamma!scum change his read on me, so openly. What do you think was the need for scum him to tr me? Also, remember that two of you (ssbm and keyen) have yourselves changed your position on me with time. Why is gamma scummy but you are town?-
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By the way a post like this from scum doesn't seem possible from the scum-Gamma. SSBM's point that this was some "oops" moment seems a bit silly in retrospect since scum wouldn't be making such an oops moment. Why would scum deliberately point out there own stuff, and sure, scum can do that for wine effect but gamma's play doesn't seem indicative of that.In post 988, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait that was based on old thoughts shit-
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To ssbm, deimos is that defendant in the court that is always late for the hearing and never makes his own case. Seriously, he is at this point worthy of a policy lynch.
I hope vedith does something.
pedit : That wasn't really pointed out by alban though. Like aubrey, and some others saw that reaction and it was partly that that changed the wagon onto dave.-
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When someone says that a slot hasn't contributed much, we can say that is true for the likes of toto, key, lethargy right? But in terms of sincerity deimos comes off as the most fake to me but he hasn't done much anyways. Why let him coast when we know that scum like to coast as well?
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