Open 679: Jungle Oligarchy (Game OVER)

Infinity 324 · Post Post #870 (isolation #0) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:15 am

Oh yeah this is a thing

Forgot to read so I'll start doing that tonight and post thoughts as I catch up

Infinity 324 · Post Post #874 (isolation #1) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:22 am

I'm momo.

Also this is basically a new game, we should RVS lol

Infinity 324 · Post Post #894 (isolation #2) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:20 pm

In post 6, Riley Cake wrote:HIIII EVERYONE!!! MY NAME IS RILEY CAKE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO PLAYING WITH ALL OF YOU!!!! *hugs everyone*

VOTE: PimHel

YOUR NAME IS ONLY ONE LETTER AWAY FROM THE H E DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS WORD!!!!

Hrmm

Is Riley always like this?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #895 (isolation #3) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:21 pm

In post 23, Riley Cake wrote:VOTE: SUPERHANS

THAT WAS A REALLY BAD ENTRANCE!!!!!!!!

Agree with this though.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #896 (isolation #4) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:24 pm

In post 33, Riley Cake wrote:HI UZI POOZI!!!!

NOTHING'S WRONG WITH HAN'S ENTRANCE!!!! I was just being a tease

...never mind then

Infinity 324 · Post Post #898 (isolation #5) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:29 pm

In post 38, Superhans wrote:
In post 33, Riley Cake wrote:HI UZI POOZI!!!!

NOTHING'S WRONG WITH HAN'S ENTRANCE!!!! I was just being a tease
Hmm I don't think you're keeping it real.

VOTE: Cake

How about this:
You thought my entrance was terrible, you call me out for it, but then get scared when an alpha player like Lil Uzi disagrees.

If this is the case please be real with me. I don't mind, it's not particularly AI, more personality indicative.

In post 45, Riley Cake wrote:
In post 38, Superhans wrote:
In post 33, Riley Cake wrote:HI UZI POOZI!!!!

NOTHING'S WRONG WITH HAN'S ENTRANCE!!!! I was just being a tease
Hmm I don't think you're keeping it real.

VOTE: Cake

How about this:
You thought my entrance was terrible, you call me out for it, but then get scared when an alpha player like Lil Uzi disagrees.

If this is the case please be real with me. I don't mind, it's not particularly AI, more personality indicative.
UZI CAN BE MY ALPHA ANY DAY!!!!!

But no!!!! *pokes* I was just teasing!!! besides!!!! even if I was scared, I'd be scared as town too, rightsies? so what made ya think it was alignment indicativesies?

In post 47, Riley Cake wrote:grrrr!!! I'm trying to think why hans thought grey's claim was town but mine is scum!!!!!! WE'RE BOTH TEASING, SO IT'S THE SAME!!!!

Ok these posts are bad

Sorry I'm quoting all Riley shit but that's the only AI shit lol

Infinity 324 · Post Post #901 (isolation #6) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:35 pm

In post 57, Superhans wrote:
In post 45, Riley Cake wrote:
In post 38, Superhans wrote:
In post 33, Riley Cake wrote:HI UZI POOZI!!!!

NOTHING'S WRONG WITH HAN'S ENTRANCE!!!! I was just being a tease
Hmm I don't think you're keeping it real.

VOTE: Cake

How about this:
You thought my entrance was terrible, you call me out for it, but then get scared when an alpha player like Lil Uzi disagrees.

If this is the case please be real with me. I don't mind, it's not particularly AI, more personality indicative.
UZI CAN BE MY ALPHA ANY DAY!!!!!

But no!!!! *pokes* I was just teasing!!! besides!!!! even if I was scared, I'd be scared as town too, rightsies? so what made ya think it was alignment indicativesies?
Did I say it was AI?

In post 58, Riley Cake wrote: since ya voted me, I thought you thought it was!!!!!!

In post 59, Superhans wrote:Oh fair enough... My vote on you was just OMGUS and for you to realise im not teasing...

UNVOTE:

In post 62, Superhans wrote:Unvoted cos I felt I'd been too aggressive for such a small reason.

This doesn't feel like a scumbuddy interaction, mainly cause hans seems to be backing off cause he's scared and he wouldn't be scared of a scumbuddy. Also I don't think a scumbuddy would vote for NAI reasons.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #903 (isolation #7) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:05 pm

So far she looks like mafia to me, so she can live for now

Infinity 324 · Post Post #905 (isolation #8) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:14 pm

In post 63, -Grey- wrote:
In post 61, Superhans wrote:
In post 55, -Grey- wrote:
In post 54, Quick Transcendence wrote:
In post 52, -Grey- wrote:
In post 51, Quick Transcendence wrote:
In post 50, -Grey- wrote:
In post 46, Quick Transcendence wrote:
In post 44, -Grey- wrote:Zat you, LQ?
Yup.

Thoughts?
I'm down if you want to go all "enemy of my enemy" on Hans.
Can't agree to that seeing as I'm Town this game.
Well if I'm mafia, he's a werewolf and you still want him dead, so...
Reading YOU is a priority for me at this juncture. I feel OK about reading Superhans as the game progresses. You I want to sort out sooner rather that later.
Reading me is simple as hell for anyone with the slightest bit of common sense.

My town and scum games are NOTHING alike.
Describe your scum play in a few sentences.
Describe your town play in a few sentences.

I'll give you mine if you ask.

Scum game
:
I intentionally mislynch town.
I kill threats at night.
I may or may not avoid being lynched.

Town game
:
I unintentionally mislynch town.
I lynch scum occasionally.
I may or may not avoid being mislynched.

Never trust self-meta. Don't be lazy, do your own homework.

Encouraging people to meta him when he says his town and scum games are so different (and from what I've seen, they are) is somewhat risky as scum

He could've tried to describe his meta manipulatively to get people to townread him as scum

Infinity 324 · Post Post #906 (isolation #9) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:15 pm

In post 73, -Grey- wrote:
In post 71, Superhans wrote:?

Y did you write that they are nothing alike. Give me features.
Cruise control
Power windows
Power locks
Heated seats
Satellite radio
GPS

I like you.

Forcing scummy players to do work is pretty good as well.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #913 (isolation #10) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:28 am

Umlaut is gut town so far, especially that last question

Infinity 324 · Post Post #916 (isolation #11) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:03 am

In post 110, Spade_Ace wrote:
In post 108, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Spade because his RVS vote felt forced.
Lil tell me, what about it seems forced to you?

In post 111, -Grey- wrote:
In post 110, Spade_Ace wrote:
In post 108, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Spade because his RVS vote felt forced.
Lil tell me, what about it seems forced to you?
VOTE: Spad_Ace

Betelgeuse!

Mm

And ignoring all the other discussion that's happening to defend himself is pretty bad as well

Infinity 324 · Post Post #918 (isolation #12) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:30 am

Infinity 324 · Post Post #919 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:34 am

In post 119, Riley Cake wrote:IT MEANS YA ONLY SHOW UP WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT YOU!!!

Riley sure is doing a lot of "helpful" posting and fluff...

Infinity 324 · Post Post #920 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:37 am

In post 123, Spade_Ace wrote:More votes. More votes.

...

Not town. At all.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #921 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:39 am

In post 136, Spade_Ace wrote:Have played with trans, lil, grey, Momo and BTD6.

Lil seems more active compared in the initial phase compared to other games. Hydra trans seems to be writing thoughts in a lengthier fashion than usual. Grey is grey, no change.

Someone tell me if I'm confbiasing, but like

This is spade first

attempt

at analysis, and you can't even call it analysis

Infinity 324 · Post Post #923 (isolation #16) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:54 am

Grey take a step back and work with me here.

How does that stuff come from town? Also why can't spade be werewolf?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #924 (isolation #17) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:55 am

In post 139, lucca261 wrote:disturbing amount of fluff and also I don't really buy your reaction to being voted. seems fake. the don't care attitude, I mean.

ding ding ding

Infinity 324 · Post Post #925 (isolation #18) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:58 am

In post 141, Spade_Ace wrote:Yeah, that seems about right. But its not fake. Their is nothing for me to react on being voted. It is still RVS and am used to being scumread.

Read on you- You don't waste any time. You come in and have provided your initial feel for the players. So far I like it.

Ohhh okay. Ask me something, I'll answer.

The first part gives me a little pause. If he thinks it's RVS, maybe that's why he's not really...doing much?

But there's so much going on that there's no way he really thinks giving no actual analysis is a good idea.

Also the second part seems like way too quick of a read and buddying.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #926 (isolation #19) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:04 am

In post 163, BTD6_maker wrote:
In post 150, momo wrote:Okay so after reading only 6 pages the only thing I can honestly say is that Riley is annoying. Feel like she is trying to draw attention to herself and acting this strange, people will think that she is too confident for scum. Hiding in plain sight so to speak.

My vote will most definitely at some point since it is page 6 but still feeling somewhat confident with what I have now. Also, how isn't Veebs banned. He is a troll who types in random game thread.

Anyway:

VOTE: Riley Cakes
I don't see Riley as annoying. Riley does have an unconventional posting style, but provides useful content. (Essentially like KainTepes). However, Riley's posting style may be breaking Rule 14 so I would recommend that Riley tries to post without caps lock.

3/4 scum

Infinity 324 · Post Post #927 (isolation #20) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:06 am

In post 167, Superhans wrote:Pg 6 and that's ALL you got?

But...BTD

But...spade

Hrmm

Infinity 324 · Post Post #928 (isolation #21) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:07 am

I think 150 was a bad way to word a gut read

Infinity 324 · Post Post #930 (isolation #22) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:11 am

In post 169, Superhans wrote:
In post 163, BTD6_maker wrote:
In post 150, momo wrote:Okay so after reading only 6 pages the only thing I can honestly say is that Riley is annoying. Feel like she is trying to draw attention to herself and acting this strange, people will think that she is too confident for scum. Hiding in plain sight so to speak.

My vote will most definitely at some point since it is page 6 but still feeling somewhat confident with what I have now. Also, how isn't Veebs banned. He is a troll who types in random game thread.

Anyway:

VOTE: Riley Cakes
I don't see Riley as annoying. Riley does have an unconventional posting style, but provides useful content. (Essentially like KainTepes). However, Riley's posting style may be breaking Rule 14 so I would recommend that Riley tries to post without caps lock.
Slighrly IIoA

Ok I'm seeing spade werewolf, since hans called out momo and BTD for not contributing very much and he didn't touch spade.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #931 (isolation #23) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:12 am

I'll try taking notes but without a working computer it's gonna be a pain.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #933 (isolation #24) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:38 am

I don't like having to retype everything

Infinity 324 · Post Post #935 (isolation #25) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:07 am

Why wouldn't scum put their buddy in the top tier if the idea is never to bus?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #951 (isolation #26) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:11 am

In post 947, Hiraki wrote:@Infinity: Any reason that your "catch-up" into this game seems to be just making forced correlations between Hans and Riley?

Because you're not reading my posts?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #952 (isolation #27) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:13 am

In post 947, Hiraki wrote:It's NAI.

I just explained why it's not...

Infinity 324 · Post Post #954 (isolation #28) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:17 am

In post 947, Hiraki wrote:No one likes reading your thoughts post by post. Especially when they become more and more useless.

Well speaking of uselessness, this post seems to be full of it.

But I will do larger catchup posts from now on.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #957 (isolation #29) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:01 am

In post 956, Hiraki wrote:You literally missed the entire point of this question. Congrats!

You said I'm making correlations between hans and riley. I'm not making correlations between anyone.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #958 (isolation #30) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:03 am

In post 916, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 110, Spade_Ace wrote:
In post 108, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Spade because his RVS vote felt forced.
Lil tell me, what about it seems forced to you?

In post 111, -Grey- wrote:
In post 110, Spade_Ace wrote:
In post 108, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Spade because his RVS vote felt forced.
Lil tell me, what about it seems forced to you?
VOTE: Spad_Ace

Betelgeuse!
Mm

And ignoring all the other discussion that's happening to defend himself is pretty bad as well

In post 920, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 123, Spade_Ace wrote:More votes. More votes.
...

Not town. At all.

Because town wouldn't want more votes, it feels like scum pretending not to care

In post 921, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 136, Spade_Ace wrote:Have played with trans, lil, grey, Momo and BTD6.

Lil seems more active compared in the initial phase compared to other games. Hydra trans seems to be writing thoughts in a lengthier fashion than usual. Grey is grey, no change.
Someone tell me if I'm confbiasing, but like

This is spade first
attempt
at analysis, and you can't even call it analysis

Infinity 324 · Post Post #960 (isolation #31) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:48 am

-LUV up to page 8 is lowkey but I feel him scumhunting so it fits with town!him I think.
-231: I don't like pre-flip associatives but come on. This one is pretty good.
-page 11: I WANT TRANSLQ BACK
-278 meh spade prob not WW
-286 if you've played with transcend before why did you expect reasons?
-page 12: I like lucca a lot. Why is everyone I like gone

-page 13: LUV's questioning looks town
-349 is town as well. People are so easy to read this game.
-367 …lol
Riley + spade mafia

Infinity 324 · Post Post #961 (isolation #32) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:52 am

^ see now you can accuse me of drawing associations. But makes sure you get the names right

Infinity 324 · Post Post #962 (isolation #33) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:39 am

-page 17: I've seen chilled's scumgame before and this doesn't feel like it.
-410 is a little generic. Would like to see where that hans read goes though.
-411 and 412 are good though. Could be genuine werewolf reads, but less likely than town.
-424: lucca is so in my head wrt LUV and grey he has to be town.
I think.
-443 why do people townread this 0_0
-447 WHY DO PEOPLE TOWNREAD THIS THAT’S A BALL OF FLUFF AND GENERIC BULLSHIT fiskckejckjq
Ok we don't have to lynch mafia yet but we'll have to at some point and if you guys can't see obvious scum we're gonna be pretty fucked
-page 20: zzz but that's what you gotta do to lynch scum

More tomorrow.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #965 (isolation #34) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:15 am

Sorry if you thought I was being an ass hiraki, I thought you were asking about all 3 of those posts not just that one.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #966 (isolation #35) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:17 am

I still don't see where I'm making correlations between hans and riley though.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #983 (isolation #36) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:44 pm

In post 966, Infinity 324 wrote:I still don't see where I'm making correlations between hans and riley though.

@hiraki

Infinity 324 · Post Post #984 (isolation #37) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:56 pm

In post 977, Aristophanes wrote:Hey all!
I'd forgotten I'd replaced in here. Sup!

Hi ari!

Infinity 324 · Post Post #996 (isolation #38) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:20 am

In post 987, Hiraki wrote:
In post 983, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 966, Infinity 324 wrote:I still don't see where I'm making correlations between hans and riley though.
@hiraki
I'm not going to argue with you about this because there is a clear denial on your part that you were forcing it to some extent.

Forcing what??

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1000 (isolation #39) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:33 am

In post 988, Spade_Ace wrote:
In post 960, Infinity 324 wrote: -278 meh spade prob not WW
How did you conclude am not WW based on Hans putting me at L2??

Cause it's unlikely for werewolves to bus, especially on an early wagon

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1002 (isolation #40) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:38 am

In post 989, Spade_Ace wrote:In 930 you thought I was werewolf cos Hans didn't talk about me. I didn't this is a valid logical conclusion. In 960 you think am not werewolf cos Hans put me at L2. I don't understand this thought process at all.

930 is a lot weaker than 960, but I still thought it was weird that hans criticized BTD and momo for not contributing as much as they could've but he didn't mention you.

PEdit: I don't remember him unvoting you right away but I'll check.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1004 (isolation #41) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:40 am

Yeah I'm not reading closely enough

You could be werewolf.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1005 (isolation #42) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:45 am

In post 997, Umlaut wrote:If Hiraki is scum then this was a pretty gutsy response, to do exactly what Grey threatened to scumread him for. I wouldn't expect a scum player to want to keep an interaction going that was bringing him negative attention like this.

This is a point, but I feel like ending it there might have been suspicious at that point.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1017 (isolation #43) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:22 am

Hiraki you said I was forcing associations between hans and riley. I want to know what you meant and where it happened, but you keep dodging the question.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1022 (isolation #44) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:31 pm

In post 1019, Hiraki wrote:I already answered this with my opinion on the argument and I have no further intention of continuing this argument.

Can you quote where you answered then? As far as I know, you didn't explain it at all.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1024 (isolation #45) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:26 pm

That's not an answer. You made a statement, back up your statement.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1025 (isolation #46) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:27 pm

I don't care whether or not you want to continue this argument, you need to say what you meant by me making correlations between hans and riley or you're claiming scum.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1027 (isolation #47) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:31 pm

Nice. Hiraki, spade, riley, (BTD/ari) are all the scum.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1029 (isolation #48) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:38 pm

Hint: town tends to be able to back up their claims.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1032 (isolation #49) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:05 pm

In post 1030, Hiraki wrote:Wow...I don't think I should play anymore if you're going to be using some of those expert scumhunting techniques!

I never knew that an argument over LITERALLY NOTHING could be alignment indicative...damn...

Lol, it's not over nothing. You made an accusation, I asked you repeatedly to back it up but you clearly can't.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1035 (isolation #50) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:45 pm

In post 947, Hiraki wrote:@Infinity: Any reason that your "catch-up" into this game seems to be just making forced correlations between Hans and Riley?

This seems like an accusation to me.

even if it's not, it doesn't matter. Town would be able to explain it even if it was a dumb mistake.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1048 (isolation #51) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:08 am

In post 1036, Hiraki wrote:"Even if it's not (an accusation), it doesn't matter"

"Town would be able to explain it (is not an accusation) even if it was a dumb mistake"

...

yes, that's what I said.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1049 (isolation #52) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:10 am

In post 1043, Hiraki wrote:But...he said that if I didn't (because I clearly can't) show the correlations he made...I'm scum...what else could I do??

If you couldn't explain them and you were town you would've admitted as much a long time ago. Instead you dodged the question to try to save face.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1050 (isolation #53) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:10 am

In post 1047, Hiraki wrote:Do you think I'd be left alone if I gave my explanation?

Yes you would lol

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1051 (isolation #54) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:11 am

Questioning questionable statements in order to try to get scum in a jam is often an effective way of scumhunting, as shown here.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1054 (isolation #55) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:15 am

Hiraki, I could do that stuff, but the explanation is the main thing I'm looking for. Now it just seems like you don't want you explanation to be called out for being bad...

Anyway, it's probably too late to change my view but go ahead and give your explanation.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1057 (isolation #56) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:19 am

Not giving the explanation shows a lot about your intentions.

PEdit: @hiraki

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1062 (isolation #57) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:29 am

In post 1060, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1059, Kop wrote:You can't be right all the time, but anything to boost your ego.
I never claimed to be right all the time

I also never claimed to tell the truth all the time.

VOTE: Hiraki

Haha, nice.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1070 (isolation #58) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:05 am

-556: The only thing this guy has to say is a reason to scumread hans. Ok…
-If grey is scum it will become evident eventually by him not being on the kill list. Not interesting in lynching him anytime soon anyway.
-558: Given the reasons here, lucca could've easily voted hans if he was mafia. (I know you think he's ww grey, but…). In general I find it likely for a lot of mafia to have been on the lynch.
…
…
-675: This seems like kind of an excuse but LUV has been towny enough that I'm letting it go.
…
ok I'm skimming most of this at this point
-Chilled still feels town with 722 even though he's wrong

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1072 (isolation #59) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:47 pm

-846 is a good post.
-850 is basically a scumclaim. He knows hans got lynched already, but a large part of the post is devoted to hans anyway--probably to just show he's giving content whether it actually helps anyone or not. Town would probably just edit the hans parts out of their post.
Not only that, the hans read is transparently reverse-engineered. It's like hiraki decided to townread hans (maybe because he didn't want people to think he was werewolf and knew the flip) and then made his catchup but had a hard time justifying that conclusion. Like, what changed SO MUCH between "this increases my scumread to 10000" and "I'm gonna land on the VI read"?? He saw a post he agreed with townreading hans? Hans made posts showing he was a noob? You could've checked his join date…
Since it was already twilight, it doesn't make it more likely for hiraki to be hans's partner, but yeah.
-851: LOL but he could be mafia too.

That said, I'm not really confident in the wolf buddy rn and I'd rather just lynch someone scummy in the hopes they're werewolf cause if they're mafia…that's not too bad either.

VOTE: hiraki

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1073 (isolation #60) » Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:48 pm

Mafia: riley, {spade, hiraki, BTD}
WW: {spade, hiraki, ari}

I want to lynch spade and hiraki

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1076 (isolation #61) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:44 am

Have you read up yet ari? If so, thoughts?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1082 (isolation #62) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:15 am

Ok so hans, a werewolf, was lynched d1 and grey was the main person who pushed it.

As for the kill list, it had ari's predecessor as well as kop's predecessor. Ari is probably not mafia but might be werewolf, and I townread lucca.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1084 (isolation #63) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:33 am

I don't think the werewolf would expect mafia to be on the list early, nor would I expect the mafia to expect the werewolf would expect that. I think the people on the list are probably just the top 3 players the mafia wants dead.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1089 (isolation #64) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:30 am

In post 1085, Hiraki wrote:@Infinity

Ok but you can't put me in a Werewolf pile because I posted a defense of Hans after he scum claimed. There are hundred of better reasons for me to make a post over night rather than post about it during the time. Either Werewolf me did it for credit (which is dodgy at best) or I made a mistake. It would not surprise me if you thought that highly of your abilities and as little as mine, Infinity.

The fact that you'd think that town edits their posts more than scum is absurd. It's NAI and scum do it more than town.

Join date really doesn't mean anything for VI purposes, you're proof of that.

The problem isn't that you defended Hans. The problem is that your progression made no sense, you went from a strong scumread to town with almost nothing.

Town doesn't edit their posts more...but they edit out useless stuff more whereas scum would likely keep it in order to look like they're doing something.

The discredit is...lol

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1090 (isolation #65) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:33 am

In post 1086, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 1084, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't think the werewolf would expect mafia to be on the list early, nor would I expect the mafia to expect the werewolf would expect that. I think the people on the list are probably just the top 3 players the mafia wants dead.

See, but here's why this is important: We either say the two left CANNOT BE MAFIA, or that mafia was willing to take that risk N1. I think you've already made the first assumption with Ari, so I don't think we're missing that part too heavily. We do have to deal with a layer of WIFOM in the fact that mafia could assume this, and figure out each player's own personal risk in a situation like this, but it still is really nice to have a possibility to soft clear two players.

It's just not worth it imo, especially when people are hunting for werewolves. The risk of getting one of your teammates NKed too high compared to the possible benefit of maybe clearing a player or two only when the werewolf is dead.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1093 (isolation #66) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:48 am

In post 1091, Hiraki wrote:You are so masterful, I should just give up now!!!!!

1) Town doesn't do ANYTHING more than scum in terms of editing. That is just a stupid tell. I was making a catch-up post after REPLACING IN.

2) I called him VI. That's not saying "oh! He is town now! Don't you see how townie he is????" - VI implies that he IS scummy but he will flip town.

3) There was no discredit.

4) I'm glad you talked about the point I made where apparently I'm just stupid scum for deciding to post something that is incriminating me right now - oh wait! Doesn't fit your agenda if you thought about that too hard!

1. Literally half of your post was useless because it talked about hans after he was already dead. Again, you could've easily edited it out but you wanted to seem like you were doing something.

2. Even with that weird definition it makes no sense that you had him as a strong scumread but flipped him to VI with the reasoning you gave.

3. The last line was definitely a discredit. I'm not saying town doesn't discredit, but yeah.

4. I didn't see that point and...why can't you be stupid scum? If you're talking about the hans read, you could've felt the need to justify it unnecessarily--anyway, it's not something that comes from town.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1110 (isolation #67) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:11 pm

...it was a good job by my predecessor

Don't know what else you're looking for

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1111 (isolation #68) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:12 pm

I mainly skimmed over my predecessors posts anyway

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1114 (isolation #69) » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:48 am

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1116 (isolation #70) » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:07 am

I think both are scum, I'm just not sure if they're werewolf or mafia

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1122 (isolation #71) » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:36 am

In post 1117, Umlaut wrote:though I'm pretty sure he's not a wolf

Why?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1125 (isolation #72) » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:23 pm

lucca looks very town by play to me

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1127 (isolation #73) » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:59 am

In post 1126, Aj The Epic wrote:I don't think Hiraki is the wolf here.

You gotta explain things like this, it would be very helpful if we had good reasons for hiraki not to be werewolf.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1128 (isolation #74) » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:08 am

In post 1126, Aj The Epic wrote:. After going on a rollercoaster re-read of the thread, QT seems pretty town early on but it's fairly obvious towards the end of D1 that he was going to catch some serious flak D2. This to me is a very, very clear signal that the WW didn't realize their best kill was probably Mattblackguy (since running theory, Lucca scum)

Flak from who?

I think matt would've been easier to frame as a werewolf than either of the other 2, or he might be werewolf. QT either suspected the werewolf more than lucca, or was killed for some other reason. Werewolf making the wrong kill is a possibility, but doesn't really fit Occam's razor.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1132 (isolation #75) » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:12 am

Yes, obviously scum read profession and question dodging are "null tells"

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1133 (isolation #76) » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:12 am

progression*

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1134 (isolation #77) » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:17 am

In post 1129, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 1127, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1126, Aj The Epic wrote:I don't think Hiraki is the wolf here.
You gotta explain things like this, it would be very helpful if we had good reasons for hiraki not to be werewolf.
It's more of "lucca postured like crazy, even after a scum claim by hans" and "Hans caring about Prim's replacement isn't really indicative of another WW". I also don't think Hiraki and you have resulted in anything damning or indicative of the alignment either way, I thought most of it was quite petty. I'm not saying Hiraki couldn't be mafia, but my care is to disable night kills today.

@Flak comment, Grey was breathing down QT's neck by the end of D1. To me, it looked like Grey was ready to lead another crusade to kill off QT no questions asked, or at least would've been prepared to do so. I think that QT's stance in the town had a huge negative delta between the beginning and end of D1, and there are a lot of replacements who wouldn't be able to read the full game to see it. More importantly, there's also an empty QT that has no info to help them catch up.

Why couldn't the werewolf have read in the night phase?

I just think grey suspcting QT isn't a huge deal breaker that prevents them from being NKed, there are a lot of reasons why people are NKed.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1144 (isolation #78) » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:12 pm

@aj Fair enough, that's a possibility but not necessarily true.

I think lucca slot is town, but I don't know how to convince people :/

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1145 (isolation #79) » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:14 pm

AJ and everyone else: if lucca flips town who would your top werewolf suspect be?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1147 (isolation #80) » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:18 pm

Why is ari town?

Infinity 324 · Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:00 pm

I don't see the motivation for ww!lucca to distance from hans or do "classic scumbuddy behavior" when just townreading him would've drawn less suspicion to him and would've let him avoid bussing altogether (except after the scumclaim).

All of his thoughts look genuine to me and match up with mine in a lot of cases.

Infinity 324 · Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:11 pm

In post 1151, Hiraki wrote:I think he's mafia but I'm ok with this

Vote: Kop

Right. Lynch this when kop flips town.

Infinity 324 · Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:12 pm

In post 1154, -Grey- wrote:I don't really care what you believe, Infinity.

Lucca is dying today and I'll make my d1 look downright fucking meek in comparison to make that happen if people want to give me friction over it.

Fine, but tomorrow we lynch hiraki.

Infinity 324 · Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:16 pm

I want to hear from ari before we lynch though.

Infinity 324 · Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:51 am

In post 1163, Kop wrote:But personally If I had a choice on where the lynch would go, I'd go down for either of Spade, Hiraki, Ari and BTD.

Cool, listen to this guy when he flips town. Except AJ is also mafia.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1173 (isolation #86) » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:12 am

Riley was very scummy and spade and her were soft defending each other

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1175 (isolation #87) » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:41 am

Link?

I thought she fluffed up the place and commented on insignificant stuff instead of trying to scumhunt

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1178 (isolation #88) » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:37 am

In post 1176, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1173, Infinity 324 wrote:Riley was very scummy
Wrong answer.

You'll eat rope long before Riley slot.

As long as AJ dies eventually...

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1181 (isolation #89) » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:40 am

VOTE: spade

Might as well vote the scum with the bigger wagon...

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1185 (isolation #90) » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:21 pm

In post 1183, Aristophanes wrote:Just did a quick skim in Kop and Lucca's Isosceles and could easily see scum there. Happy to hammer when the time is right.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1191 (isolation #91) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:02 am

I still don't understand why it can't be hiraki

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1198 (isolation #92) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:39 pm

In post 1073, Infinity 324 wrote:Mafia: riley, {spade, hiraki, BTD}
WW: {spade, hiraki, ari}

I want to lynch spade and hiraki

@aj

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1200 (isolation #93) » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:53 pm

Riley votes spade but it's for an early game wagon and with an easy way out. She was also incredibly scummy but on the ww lynch wagon, so...

Infinity 324 · Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:20 pm

It's not based on her playstyle, it's based on how much she was adding to the game for how much she posted. There's way too much fluff there.

Infinity 324 · Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:16 pm

I did read it, I just don't see where the content is. The shtick has nothing to do with my scumread on her.

Riley kind of reminds me of alisae. Just cause she posts weirdly doesn't mean you can't read her tone and content.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1209 (isolation #96) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:30 am

That's a really good case actually.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1211 (isolation #97) » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:33 am

I already thought spade was scum and kop was town, but the case is making me think spade is actually the werewolf.

I'm not sure what's so strange about that. I'm also not sure why you apparently disagree with the case but are not responding to it.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1223 (isolation #98) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:58 pm

In post 1221, -Grey- wrote:Will, Aristo is pretty much confirmed town now.

Why?

VOTE: spade

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1225 (isolation #99) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:43 pm

I still think he could be a wolf, but we'll get to that if spade or hiraki isn't I guess.

Right now we lynch spade.

Infinity 324 · Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:47 pm

Not sure, but also not sure why anyone would kill the other 2 either

Infinity 324 · Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:02 pm

Why not?

Infinity 324 · Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:06 pm

Once in a while

I've definitely seen teams where the whole scumteam was suspected early on, and have even been in them occasionally although personally I'm not suspected that often as scum

Infinity 324 · Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:07 pm

Ok looking at my sig it's more than once in a while

Infinity 324 · Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:10 pm

LUV what do you think about stuff

Infinity 324 · Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:15 pm

Why is hiraki a more likely hans partner than spade? Umlaut's case was pretty convincing for me tbh

PEdit:

If you really can't get the motivation you should probably replace out

Infinity 324 · Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:31 pm

BTD is probably town since he was on the kill list and on the hans wagon.

Infinity 324 · Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:32 pm

In post 862, davesaz wrote:Superhans (7) : ChaosOmega, Lil Uzi Vert, Riley Cake, -Grey-, BTD6_maker, Quick Transcendence, lucca261 (Lynch)

There's gotta be a least one mafia here

...right?

Infinity 324 · Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:45 pm

He was on the kill list though.

Infinity 324 · Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:56 pm

Yeah but it's unlikely imo. Its so much of a risk to just lose one of your members and it doesn't even let you avoid a lynch necessarily. Although to be fair BTD was unlikely to be killed.

Infinity 324 · Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:29 am

Are you going to help anything or are you just going to AtE and state the obvious?

Infinity 324 · Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:53 am

It appeals to people's fear of losing the game instead of making an actual argument.

Infinity 324 · Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:00 pm

I bet werewolf!n_m would risk it

BTD looks pretty bad with the unannounced L-1 and yet another sheep, he might just be mafia if this flips ww despite being on the kill list

I'm not sure why else he would be on there.

Infinity 324 · Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:01 pm

I'm probably going to do some serious NKA during the night phase. Cause something weird is going on with both the kill list and the actual kills

Infinity 324 · Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:12 pm

I really want ari to get in here and post content so I don't have to worry about him being werewolf.

Infinity 324 · Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:10 pm

Hey ari! Do you think you can give some content sometime soon?

I buy umault' reasoning more than grey's which is really worrying tbh. But if we get enough townreads then maybe we can PoE this.

It really bothers me that grey was not on any kill list despite being a universal townread. He is obvious town though so...

BTD is basically conftown now I think.

n_m's quickhammer is not AI.

Infinity 324 · Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:30 pm

He literally quickhammered all the time as both alignments

Infinity 324 · Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:46 pm

And that changes things because?

n_m is a troll. He doesn't give a shit about whether he just replaced in, quickhammering is always an option.

Infinity 324 · Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:17 pm

I'm not making excuses, I think it's shitty play, but you're arrogant as fuck if you think that something is alignment indicative for a player when someone who knows his meta is telling you it's not.

Infinity 324 · Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:18 pm

I'm pretty sure hiraki is mafia since that's the only way he could still be alive. I want to look at ari.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:13 am

Riley was AJ

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:25 am

mattblackguy

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:27 am

Who's the werewolf?

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:38 am

0_o

Who else

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:10 am

I don't see why wanting this guy dead is a question at all ^

Also yes it's a good question why mafia would want to kill a lurker

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:43 am

VOTE: ari

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:53 am

VOTE: hiraki

Ari is town.

This is the safe scum, and there's always a chance he's ww.

@Ari: We still want to eliminate the ww more just so there's no option to kill, but you're right that the priority is eliminating scum in general.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:03 am

Wow, that's a small pool.

Hiraki, plus LUV and grey since they really should've been on the kill list at least once. Umlaut is a pretty strong townread of mine.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:05 am

n_m is probably werewolf then. Hmm

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:15 am

In post 846, lucca261 wrote:basically, FMPOV, it's either Matt or Tea.

it's tea, but, right.

Why does he gets listed if both of these guys aren't mafia...

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:16 am

Actually ari you're right that we get an extra lynch before lylo if we don't kill ww yet. Cool.

Lynch hiraki?

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:21 am

Well probably mafia weren't predicting any of them lynched any time soon n1. So maybe the n1 kill list doesn't matter?

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:27 am

I'm decently comfortable calling ari, btd, and umlaut town and just lynching everyone else, but I do want to do some NKA first.

PEdit: yeah but I'm wondering if mafia listed the people scumreading them.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:34 am

QT scumread 2 flipped town and my slot. Ok....

They did mention a scumread on n_m slot, wasn't close to end of the day, but never went back on that. Though, fred's replacemenet immediately flaked I think so there's no chance they would catch that. May point to fred being mafia though?

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:36 am

Ari, you're so fun to play with when you try to gamesolve! You should try it more often

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:42 am

Why is n_m mafia and not werewolf?

And why do you think you and LUV were not on the list for the past few days

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:04 am

I said that n_m was werewolf once cause he was on the kill list, but I changed my mind. I even after said that something may point to his slot being mafia. However, if either you or LUV is the werewolf there are questions about why you weren't on the kill list. And if hiraki is ww, there's the question of why he wasn't lynched yet with no one townreading him afaik.

I don't think n_m's slot has done almost anything AI, and I only have him as scum based on PoE, so I'm not really comfortable lynching him yet.

Also, you can guess at scum's motivations, even though you don't know the. That's what this whole game is about...

I find it very odd that you

don't

find it odd that as a universal townread you didn't appear on the kill list a single time.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:06 am

Who do you think is the wolf?

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:11 am

I want to lynch hiraki because there's no way he flips town, unlike n_m. You have a point about the gamethrowing, but n_m may just be ballsy enough to do that.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:15 am

I wonder if mafia hitlisted lurkers cause that's who they were most scared of. Like all the active players townread them.

That's the only way the repeated lists with ari and BTD make any sense to me.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:23 am

In post 1126, Aj The Epic wrote:In reality, that kill list should've been [Grey, Riley, LuV] as that was the specific town block that needed to be broken for scum to advance. The list is actually too entirely weird considering, but it almost looks like scum was trying to force the second WW to reveal.

And this was the third player on the d2 kill list.

Not only that, AJ didn't give any reads other than the kop scumread and to say I'm acting weird.

HRMM

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:26 am

And the last list contained all 3 empty/lurker slots.

I suppose no one really scumread n_m, but does a scumteam with n_m roll the dice with 3 empty slots or do they list LUV or grey who are under 0 suspicion?

grey, LUV, and hiraki are mafia.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:30 am

In post 954, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 947, Hiraki wrote:No one likes reading your thoughts post by post. Especially when they become more and more useless.
Well speaking of uselessness, this post seems to be full of it.

In post 1032, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1030, Hiraki wrote:Wow...I don't think I should play anymore if you're going to be using some of those expert scumhunting techniques!

I never knew that an argument over LITERALLY NOTHING could be alignment indicative...damn...
Lol, it's not over nothing. You made an accusation, I asked you repeatedly to back it up but you clearly can't.

In post 1072, Infinity 324 wrote:-846 is a good post.
-850 is basically a scumclaim. He knows hans got lynched already, but a large part of the post is devoted to hans anyway--probably to just show he's giving content whether it actually helps anyone or not. Town would probably just edit the hans parts out of their post.
Not only that, the hans read is transparently reverse-engineered. It's like hiraki decided to townread hans (maybe because he didn't want people to think he was werewolf and knew the flip) and then made his catchup but had a hard time justifying that conclusion. Like, what changed SO MUCH between "this increases my scumread to 10000" and "I'm gonna land on the VI read"?? He saw a post he agreed with townreading hans? Hans made posts showing he was a noob? You could've checked his join date…
Since it was already twilight, it doesn't make it more likely for hiraki to be hans's partner, but yeah.

^ this is the most important part but hiraki wants to make it all about the question dodging.

In post 1296, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm pretty sure hiraki is mafia since that's the only way he could still be alive.

Seriously, no one townreads him afaik.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:32 am

Like, there are a bunch of people that no one townreads but hiraki would be such easy lynchbait for mafia. And when he was wagoned in the past no one actually came to his defense, the wagon just slowly went away.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:48 am

No content isn't AI

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:51 am

In post 1364, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1350, Infinity 324 wrote:I find it very odd that you don't find it odd that as a universal townread you didn't appear on the kill list a single time.
Nothing odd about it.

Considering I've been wolf hunting, the Mafia has had no reason to be concerned about listing me.

Name one player in this game who has been hunting mafia, other than maybe me.

Also I thought you said you had no idea why you weren't listed...

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:55 am

In post 1365, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1363, Infinity 324 wrote:No content isn't AI
22 posts isn't "no content".

Make more excuses for him.

I looked over them, there's some game relevant stuff there. Not a lot, mind you, but some.

Just because there are a handful of fluff posts in there doesn't mean anything.

Literally everything I say you call an excuse. Maybe (*gasp*) people have valid points that disagree with yours? Nah, that wouldn't help your agenda.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:23 pm

In post 1373, Umlaut wrote:
In post 1350, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't think n_m's slot has done almost anything AI, and I only have him as scum based on PoE, so I'm not really comfortable lynching him yet.
How long does a slot have to do nothing for you to become comfortable lynching it?

...forever? I don't lynch people for not posting content. Unless they're scum by PoE.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:33 pm

In post 1375, Aristophanes wrote:Also Hiraki had the most bland Iso...
Fits in nicely, doesn't ruffle feathers, just a snooze fest.

I think it looks like appeasy/low key scum.

It's not appeas-y, he's not afraid to get scumread (or at least looks like that). But that doesn't make him town.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:06 pm

In post 1413, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1412, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1373, Umlaut wrote:
In post 1350, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't think n_m's slot has done almost anything AI, and I only have him as scum based on PoE, so I'm not really comfortable lynching him yet.
How long does a slot have to do nothing for you to become comfortable lynching it?
...forever? I don't lynch people for not posting content. Unless they're scum by PoE.
Or if they're Ari, amirite

Well you're a special case

Why do you think grey and LUV haven't appeared on the kill list once? Why do you say me and grey are aligned?

I'm really not sure who the werewolf is, but hopefully we can figure that out later.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:14 pm

In post 1366, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1364, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1350, Infinity 324 wrote:I find it very odd that you don't find it odd that as a universal townread you didn't appear on the kill list a single time.
Nothing odd about it.

Considering I've been wolf hunting, the Mafia has had no reason to be concerned about listing me.
Name one player in this game who has been hunting mafia, other than maybe me.

Also I thought you said you had no idea why you weren't listed...

Infinity 324 · Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:07 am

You don't think it's too much of a risk for mafia to repeatedly keep universal townreads off the hit list when no one was suspecting them? I know it's wine but that just seems weird to me. And the thing is, N2 was you, BTD, and AJ, who wasn't threatening anyone. D3 was all inactive slots. With grey town and even with LUV town that's inexplicable to me.

Infinity 324 · Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:34 am

Hiraki is scum because 1359

I'm suspecting you and grey as well because I don't know why you two weren't on any hit list and because of PoE.

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:03 am

Still have no idea why we're letting hiraki live and that n_m vote makes me kinda worried tbh

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:12 am

Grey, if n_m flips town, will you agree to be lynched?

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:16 am

Only if I get enough other people to agree.

So guys, lynch grey if n_m flips town? Lynching hiraki is also acceptable.

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:01 am

VOTE: grey

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:10 am

He was basically the reason hans was lynched, and that's why mafia would've been scared of you if you were town.

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:10 am

him*, he*

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:16 am

No one knew your other reads at end of d1 I'm pretty sure.

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:18 am

I love how grey keeps coming up with different responses to the question of why he wasn't kill listed. First he couldn't possibly have any idea. Then it's because he was wolf hunting. Then it's because his reads were wrong.

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:22 am

In post 1364, -Grey- wrote:Nothing odd about it.

Considering I've been wolf hunting, the Mafia has had no reason to be concerned about listing me.

This is not someone suggesting a possibility for why he wasn't kill listed but stating why.

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:30 am

If the werewolf wants to give us another lynch (because they flaked or otherwise), we should let them.

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:39 am

What logic lol

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:52 am

Scum can use good logic too, and that's far from the same logic anyway.

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:31 am

Of course it is.

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Ari you are awesome.

But I'm pretty sure you're wrong that me and grey are of the same alignment. Can we just lynch grey and hiraki?

Infinity 324 · Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:52 pm

I think LUV is the werewolf and not mafia, werewolf is most likely umlaut I think but we'll deal with that later.

Infinity 324 · Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:54 am

LUV is mafia*

Hiraki, if you're somehow town, just know that ari is obvious town and he'd never ever be able to fake this as scum.

Infinity 324 · Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:11 pm

I don't even know anymore

I think we want to lynch n_m

Infinity 324 · Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:02 am

I really really want to trust my reads. That would mean the scumteam is n_m, hiraki, and LUV

But ari was obvious town and mafia knew the wolf was aiming for them. Why would they put 2 mafia there? Maybe they predicted the no kill. Idk.

Infinity 324 · Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:39 pm

In post 1570, Hiraki wrote:in case im wrong (which I'm not and I will lead everyone to victory) - i'm going to go into full meta - remember that infinity has literally been going on a read since like D2 or whenever and his case is garbage (which is why no one followed it and never will)

his flinch now is absolutely the last thing a stubborn town would ever do

Three different scumreads of mine have been wrong over the course of this game.

No wonder I'd be a little bit nervous.

Infinity 324 · Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:40 pm

In post 1572, Hiraki wrote:there should be 100% consensus that Umlaut and Ari (my clear scumbuddies :):) ) should not be lynched today and anyone who disagrees should give some really really REALLY good reasoning)

Actually I agree with this.

Infinity 324 · Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:43 pm

Mmm

Yeah I think we just lynch hiraki.

Infinity 324 · Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:48 am

I don't feel like rereading, but in case people want to talk stuff over I'm going to hold off on voting.

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:31 am

That makes me worried I might be wrong about uzi, but it makes me more confident on hiraki.

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:32 am

How about this. In 24 hours I'll vote hiraki unless anyone has objections

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:36 am

Thanks!

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:41 pm

I don't think that's a thing

If you have 0 motivation you have 0 motivation. That could happen as any alignment

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:48 pm

You make the assumption that scum wouldn't bus, which I disagree with. Scum bus all the time in lylo even when they shouldn't.

n_m's lynch yesterday looked inevitable, so that why I think hiraki bussed.

Infinity 324 · Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:05 pm

VOTE: hiraki

I want the lynch today to be either me or hiraki.

Infinity 324 · Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:48 am

In post 1604, Umlaut wrote:
In post 1598, Infinity 324 wrote:You make the assumption that scum wouldn't bus, which I disagree with. Scum bus all the time in lylo even when they shouldn't.
You don't bus someone by waiting three three days and then putting their wagon to L-1 after it's already stagnated. If scum!Hiraki wanted to bus scum!NM, he'd have done it right out of the gate on d4.

He was probably waiting to see whether the lynch was inevitable. Bussing doesn't always work the way you're saying it does.

Infinity 324 · Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:34 am

That was largely my fault for my reads being shit. Sorry guys

Infinity 324 · Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:35 am

I thought I had caught the team when I replaced in lol. And I was in a really good spot if I could lynch the mafia since no one suspected me of being a wolf due to bussing. But I fucked up.

Infinity 324 · Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:41 am

Oh and sorry grey especially for derailing your mislynch wagon and lynching you. That was pretty bad.

At daystart I knew we should've lynched n_m but someone convinced me that scum might put their scumbuddies on the kill list expecting a no kill.

Oh well

Infinity 324 · Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:41 am

In post 1622, -Grey- wrote:Dumbasses deserved this loss after not lynching NM.

Fuck all y'all.

Yeah yeah I know.

Infinity 324 · Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:42 am

Infinity 324 · Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:10 am

It was fun trying to figure stuff out with you even though I had plans to stab you in the back

Infinity 324 · Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:21 am

Maybe. I didn't think about killing town to send the game to 1:1:1. But then town would just be kingmaker so it wouldn't be a guaranteed win.

I thought you were trying to trick me when you said that at first, lol