Mini 69: Untitled Mafia (finis)

[Talitha]

Hello, confirm, etc.
I've never started a game with a day before... any thoughts on why we might start with a day?... From the opening post it sounds like there are more than one gang so maybe it is a game balancing thing (to give the town a chance)... ... *shiver*

[Talitha]

*wonders if Mojo put a 3rd vote on Isaac for any particular reason*

vote: empathy

for being last to confirm

[Talitha]

Ummm????
What the hell just happened?

[Talitha]

Isaac posts exactly once, to confirm... and y'all go and lynch him with no discussion and no information!?!?!??

Even if he is scum (doubtful IMO) that's just INSANE play.

[Talitha]

I wouldn't expect more than one vig in a mini but *shrug* who knows... We seem to have some fairly serious killing gangs out there so I'd expect there'd be quite a few townies with powerful roles to balance things.

vote: Spqr

hmmmm... I don't wanna be the guy who sends a townie to the gallows, but we might get lucky. Unvote: Shelper; Vote: Isaac

The most obviously scummy move I think I've ever seen.

[Talitha]

Yes, speak please Spqr.

[Talitha]

I can't promise to give a clean slate to any replacement and I will

FOS: Fishbulb

for suggesting it. I wish Spqr would front up and explain instead of running and hiding.

[Talitha]

I did look at what you said, but I don't find it logical. The would have the same

role

as Spqr, and the same motives. We absolutely have to hold Spqr's actions against any replacement. Otherwise baddies who do stupid things can run away happily thinking, "No problem - nobody will hold it against my replacement!!"

[Talitha]

I agree - It's not fair on a replacement.
I would be quite happy to lynch him/her without response, apart from the niggly little worry that maybe they

did

just make a newbie mistake. After all people were jumping on the bandwagon pretty damn quick, maybe s/he just thought that's how you're supposed to play mafia.
But I really can't see anyone (even a newbie) genuinely making that kind of mistake.... I'd take your bet anyday, Fishbulb.

[Talitha]

Even if I wanted to give the replacement a clean slate, it is not humanly possible for me to get the image of that scummy move out of my head, sorry.
Besides, I am trying to help win the game for the town here.... it's our responsibility to use all information available to us to try and win. And right now, the town needs all the leads and info that it has because we haven't been doing that well so far.

[Talitha]

why would you want to do that, so the day will just go off just like day 1?

FOS: Talitha

because of some reason wanted day one scenerio all over again

The day one scenario was that an innocent pro-towner was lynched without ever posting in the game!
I suggest lynching the person most responsible for this, and I get FOSed???

[Talitha]

Im as dull as it is just your average townie, no special powers, no night ability, nothing.

So far we haven't had any plain townies revealed. Does anyone want to come forward and say that they're also just a townie... cos if there aren;t any other townies I reckon we should string this one up.
(Hi ZONEACE... welcome btw )

[Talitha]

Thanks Shelper for that info.
I guess there's no hurry to lynch today so

unvote: Spqr

ZONEACE: Sometimes mafia games move very slowly and people can't always post everyday, ya just gotta be patient.

[Talitha]

The other two that looked kinda suspicious to me, jumping so quickly on Isaac's bandwagon, were Empathy & Demeech. I'd like to hear more from them, and will probably vote for one of them soon, if nothing better comes up.

[Talitha]

Hmmm... no reply from Empathy or Demeech yet.

vote: Demeech

I think that makes 3 votes each. That should be enough pressure for now. With 5 to lynch let's not put anyone on 4 votes just yet.

[Talitha]

Demeech: As has already been explained, I didn't want

all

townies to claim, I just wanted

one

to come forward to comfirm that Zoneace actually might be a townie....

OK, so you've claimed role blocker. I'm not sure if I believe it. Who did you block on nights 1 & 2?

[Talitha]

Talitha

,
We've had just one night. We began at day.

Woops, quite right you are.
I agree with your other points too, my vote's staying on Demeech. But we really do need to hear from Empathy (or replacement) before putting the final nail in the coffin.

[Talitha]

shelper: I think demeech is lynched already.
And I will explain all in the morning....

[Talitha]

*sigh*
I am a vigilante.
I was at Prizm's house because I targeted him... I thought he was scum after his role in Isaac's lynching.
On a brighter note, I killed Phoebus the mafia leader last night!

Does anyone understand that "A Night to Remember" scene?

[Talitha]

I

am

a vigilante. We discussed at the start that there would need to be some powerful pro-town roles in order to balance this game, and just how many groups of baddies do you think are out there?

Why I killed Phoebus.. it was based on the people that he was pointing to, his use of strange logic, and a strong gut feeling.

If you want me to prove myself I will happily do so tonight if the town can agree on a target.

As far as I'm concerned, gin is the only semi-confirmed innocent here...

[Talitha]

UM ZONEACE - Firstly I know that gin knew that which is why he is the least suspicious person here!....... Secondly the mod can put whatever roles he likes into the game! There are no hard and fast rules! And I've offered to prove myself, what more can I do?

[Talitha]

Okay, another question for Talitha. Why did you choose Prizm when you could have chosen... dammit, I can't remember his name. Spqr? Whoever ZONEACE was before anyway.

I seriously thought they must both be scum, but I decided to kill Prizm because he'd been around a little longer than Spqr and should've known better.

[Talitha]

To me it seems obvious there is only one mafia group.

The other kills were done by the psychopath Demeech & myself.

Last night the mafia killed their own mafia spy, because they didn't know his identity.

I think we're now down to one or two scum.... (Phoebus's buddy/ies)

[Talitha]

Will vote later when I've had time to think about everything...

[Talitha]

Zoneace - What doesn't all add up? If you want me to explain something, just ask.

Right now I'm tending towards voting Zoneace.... I feel like he thinks that I'm the biggest threat because I'm a vig... Also Fishbulb obviously thought Spqr was scum when he was advocating the clean slate... but it's probable that Fish didn't know for sure who his mafia comrades were.

[Talitha]

But it doesn't make any sense that I would be mafia! Why would I kill my own godfather?! And if I didn't kill him who did???

Look at the kills
Night 1:
- 2 attacks on Prizm (by mafia & myself)
(Look at the description of Prizm's death... in particular "Guess not having a gun has its disadvantages. But look, another figure. Salvation! " Another

figure

, singular. Only me.

- attack on Coolbot (by Demeech the psychopath)

Night 2:
attack on Phoebus (me)
attack on Fishbulb (mafia)

The only way there could be another mafia group is if the doc/s have been successful both nights. Not likely!
If there's another group I figure there must be 3 scum left out of 6. I know that this game was loaded against the town but that would mean that we started with 6 scum out of 12!!!!!

No, there is only 1 mafia group.

[Talitha]

vote: Zoneace

I'm tending to believe Mojo & Carmine so it's the only logical thing I can do.

[Talitha]

OK, which of you has defected to the dark side?

*points to the torn up certificate of pro-town-ness*

That's

why the game isn't over yet.

[Talitha]

Well, I can solidify carmine's role-claim (if she protected me).

Which means someone's tried to kill me in the night :S

So!

Unless someone protected me from Carmine (Now would be the time to speak up!) I'd guess she is innocent. But now the finger of suspicion in my mind swings back to Talitha.

Why no night kill if you're a vigilante? Or, if there was one - why did you target them... (ie, I guess me - assuming carmine was correct).

gin, why are you so sure you were targeted last night, did you receive a message that said you were??

Vigilantes dont usually

have

to kill. Last night I chose not to kill. I didn't have enough idea who the scum was. Now I'm trying to figure out which of you had a role that is most likely to be a traitor. Fishbulb was a caterer (like a cop) and turned into a mafia spy. So it could be something similar. Ugh, who knows.

[Talitha]

Lynch me if you must to set your minds at ease. But don't forget you're looking for a traitor tomorrow. It could be someone that you've previously cleared as innocent. Just be warned.

[Talitha]

Bah! No wonder I couldn't win, you're all evil!
*kicks herself*
I really shoud've figured out what was going on after Mojo's fishy roleclaim.
If only I'd gone on a rampaging cult killing spree instead of assuming you were all sweet and innocent!
Thanks Wacky, very interesting game!

[Talitha]

To be honest Phoebus I just made that up because I had to have some sort of reason for killing you!

[Talitha]

I had an immunity to one night kill. Maybe that was the reason?