Mini 342-Mlakerville-Game Over

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Vote: Patrick

because I can't vote for roland

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WTF. I won't vote Primate though, 'cause I see he's just trying to stir the pot.

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Unvote, Vote: dahen

Now

THAT

is friggin unneccessary. A fourth vote?!? That's called a quicklynch, ladies and gentlemen, a glaringly obvious scumtell.

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Also, I don't know if there is some silent agreement that my behavior is wrong and you need to have better proof in order to put someone at three from lynch.

You just put him

two

from lynch. half of 11 is 5.5, rounded up is 6. Even if it was 3 from lynch, yes, doing that is a VERY BAD IDEA. If we have a mafia of three, they could pounce. Not easily, but they could. Putting someone that close one page 2 is a horrible thing to do.

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Is two away from a lynch so bad? If two ppl speedlynch now we should rejoice, because we've caught two scum. No mafia is going to be that stupid. In fact

FoS PBug

because as an experienced player I'm sure you would have known this. I think you're being oppotunistic.

It's hypothetical, but my point is, putting someone at 4 votes out of six on the second page is very scummy.

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A bit hasty, aren't you?

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Still think dahen is scum. A third vote in a bandwagon that early is fishing for a reaction. A fourth is fishing for a lynch.

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So no one's gonna help me with that speedlynch thing?

I'm going to ignore that post.

I agree that monsieur is scummiest,

FoS: monsieurchouette

. I won't vote because he sould defend himself.

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I'm leaning towards lynching dahen ATM.

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Eyes on the prize people. Patrick's fairly scummy, but most of that is by his association with Dahen. With a serial killer in the set-up, that leaves a likely mafa of 2, maybe?? Using this premise, would scum overextend as much as Patrick has? Maybe, but it seems unlikely. I think it's very likely that we have a scum in pat-dahen, but I don't know which, and I think that getting rid of Dahen is the more informative of the two lynches, not just in what they give us regading the other player, but also what it gives us regarding every other player in this game.

I've been in and modded games with an SK and a 3-person mafia. In the recent Arrested Development game, there was a three person mafia and an SK, and the same went for my Greek Myth mini a while back.

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Vote: DAS

because he just attacked someone for

not

voting a lurker T.T

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There is also cpol who has hardly said anything.
I'm not trying to wagon either of these two but want to hear what they have to say. Both have gone largely unnoticed.

Has anyone else done anything bad that your going to point out but then do nothing about ????
What will it take?
A man standing over a body with a knife, shouting Im happy I killed the bastard b4 you vote?
Sitting on the fence is great but it doesnt always get results.
I cant help feel like your trying to divide and conquer
EGMEOY-at least you post but thats about it.
Mod are we replacing Chef and Cpol?
or is it Post or Perish time. No-one likes a Lurker

You attacked Patrick for not voting for a lurker.

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I like my vote ATM.

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Pbug, Wolfsabane, you guys believe that DAS is trying to draw attention off his scumbuddy, dahen, so, by association, Dahen has to be scum for your arguments to hold any water. And if your basic premise that you're basing your argument on is that Dahen is scum, why don't you just lynch him and get it over and done with?

I believe no such thing, wtf does das have to do with dahen? das attacked Patrick for not voting for one of the lurkers, chef and cpol. Where does dahen figure in to that?

If das is scum, I'll be looking heavily at Primate.

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Why

can't

you? That doesn't make sense.

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PBug - hasn't said much. I can't get a read on him. I know it's his normal style. He could be scum sitting back in a comfy seat eating popcorn and watching all the action. I just don't know.

Goddammit, Patrick, it's not my style! I'm busy because I have a big camping trip/festival in two to three weeks that I'm getting ready for, plus summer homework, so I don't get to post as much as I normally do.

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I don't understand why you're voting me, cpol.

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I don't understand why you're voting me, cpol.

Just trying things out atm. And as I said I think someone who has held back is scum, and you seem like a good candidate.

Held back how?

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I'm going to have limited or possibly no internet access until Thursday. Just to be on the safe side

unvote

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SCUMMY:

das
dahen
Twito

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Patrick: Neutral
Twito: Scummy
DAS: Scummy
Kristocker: Slightly scummy
Wolfsbane: Unsure
Primate: Town
PBug: This dude has to Mafia. Seriously, lynch him NOW.
Dahen: Scummy, but not very
BRob: Neutral
cpol: Slightly scummy

There. I'm cool too. We all seem to have different views on everyone XD

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Wait,

what

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MAJOR FOS: WOLFSBANE

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Oh, good.

Unvote?, Vote: wolfsbane

I think there are scummier people than dahen right now, namely das, kristocker, cpol, and Twito.

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We have a deadline?!?

I third the request that the deadline be removed.

(Assuming Primate seconded it.)

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Mod: The deadline shoudl definatly be removed

Its nice to see that people are comming round to the Wolfsbane, Kristocker and possibly PBuG are scummy point of view finnaly. We can hopefully get somewhere now. I would post some scummy posts of theirs, however that seems to amply been handled.

This post confuses me. Do you mean that people are finally starting to see that wolfsbane, kristocker, and myself as scummy?

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Yupz. I wouldn't mind seeing how cpol makes a case here.

Agreed.

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Happy with my vote, too.

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Unvote

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Mod can we have a votecount please?

I need to do a serious reread now as so much has changed. We really need everyone to check in so we can confirm Wolfsbane and move on from there.

Working off the idea that what wolfsbane said is correct and that dahens "go town!" in a moment of cunfusion clears him (which none of these things are definite, but the best thing we have to go off atm) this means the scum is in this lot:
Patrick
B Rob
davidangelsummers
Primate
Twito
kristocker

I have said before that I don't think that DAS or Patrick are scum and I have a feeling that Primate isn't, so in my eyes that leaves B Rob, Twito and Kristocker as the people who are most likley. I do find it highly unlikley that Im right on all of them being scum though, but I do feel pretty certian that at least one of those will be scum and I feel we should put our attention into them the most.

Huh? You don't think I could be scum? That's a turnaround.

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I'm here, and will read over what I missed, then post.

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I'm here, I'm reading, I haven't been able to post anything concise because of school things, and I don't really have any major view ATM.

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I just reread kristocker's posts again very carefully and... *sigh*

Unvote?, Vote: kristocker

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Holy moly indeed. *kicks self in ass* Sometimes even

I

don't know what I'm doing.

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Wow, from the initial reaction I was pretty sure I had screwed up o.o; I'm not sure how to vote, I need to re-read the past day.

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I think PBug needs looking at today. A few reasons: Firstly the obvious fact that PBug has been on the sidelines all game. Low on content, staying away from much controversial stuff etc. No major view at this stage as posted in post 459, is pretty scummy I feel. Yesterday PBug never particularly gunned for the kristocker lynch, or talked about the case against her. Then post 461:

I just reread kristocker's posts again very carefully and... *sigh* Unvote?, Vote: kristocker

This reeks to me of last minute distancing. He gives no reasons for wanting to vote kristocker, just does it. Then:

Holy moly indeed. *kicks self in ass* Sometimes even I don't know what I'm doing.

Presumably acting like he didn't realise it was the hammer. I'm not so sure. Didn't wait for a claim, and limited Primate's time for posting his case against BRob.
Lastly there is just the fact that kristocker seemed eager to clear cpol, wolfsbane and PBug so easily, even when I pointed out so many different scenarios for night 0. So I think i'll kick off with a

vote:PBug

First off, wolfsbane was indeed the doc, and though I'm not saying it clears me, it should be ignored.

I know this is a crappy excuse, but I have a busy life and this game wasn't at the top of my priorities. Either way, I realized that I had voted without sufficient reasoning, and that's why I posted the second one. I tend to do things without thinking them through.

Anyway, I'll reread Day 2 as soon as I can.

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I could wait for everyone to post and give their opinions but I'm too lazy for that.
Quilty on BRob.

Vote: BRob

Ah, I missed this.

Vote: B Rob

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I think you should full claim now because of the possibility of being killed.

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Vote: DAS

as before.

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I don't think cpol is scum. He got on my nerves earlier in the game, but I think he's town now. I'll pull out all of my evidence against DAS.

Sorry DAS. But lol your vote. When I do random.org, I take the first number that pops up (unless, of course, it is me ) and vote for that person. I usually then check to make sure that there aren't any votes on that person. Stupid me didn't equate DAS with davidangelsummers. Not trying to bandwagon you or anything. Maybe random.org does have it in for you. Very interesting...

LOL.

UNVOTE

I can see that primate wants to stir the pot but I still have to give him a

FOS

as I dont want the 3rd vote missed when people look back on Day 1.
For anyone who is new at this; I think all day 1s are about feeling people out and getting disscussion going. This leads me on to dahen.
Do you intend to be random or create pressure?
A four vote when I have only posted once?
I am going to put it down to you being "relatively new at this" and raise you a

FOS

. which may just turn into a vote.

I'm surprised he didn't vote here. Not really scummy, but thought I'd point that out.

@Patrick: Why are you opposing the Dahen bandwagon so strongly when you're on it yourself? BigFos Pattyrick

My vote on dahen was a random vote, not a part of this wagon. But since you remind me, i'll

unvote, vote: Twito

Patrick,
Although I agree with some of your points, I just dont think you can Vote for Twito at this time. I too was on the verge of voteing for him, But you can not argue with the facts. I dont see how you can unvote someone who everyone agrees needs to answer questions ...to someone who although tenacious, is owed answers. Its almost like you are trying to take attention away from Dahen and on to a player that we all have an eye on anyway. It does not make sence.
If its ok? Kristocker, I would like your views on this.
I still wait on Dahen....b4 I vote anyone

DAS doesn't seem to like any of Patrick's votes. A lot of this post is hard to understand and is BS-ish. The he asks for the views of, of all people, kristocker. Why?

Its almost like you are trying to take attention away from Dahen and on to a player that we all have an eye on anyway.

Interesting. twito seems to think the opposite ( that I was trying to get the dahen wagon moving without looking like I was). I agree that dahen needs to come in here and start talking but I cant see a problem with a twito vote right now.

My point is this.
If Dahen continues to ignore or post to non-satisfactory, what are you to do?
If you keep your vote on T and Dahen comes up scum, thats going to look bad on you.
If you change your Vote back to Dahen, Thats going to look bad too.
So you must have faith in Dahen, which worrys me because you have no idea what hes going to post.
Of course you could well be right...but I hope you see where I am coming from..

He seems to be saying that you shouldn't vote for dahen, but you should anyway.

I'm about ready to ask for everyone that hasn't posted in the last week to be replaced. Come on people! Where is everybody?!?!?!?!?! Who's in for a speed-lynch?

We really dont have a choice but to make people post

VOTE MON

Post or perish

His first vote of the game...

Dahen
What? Mons was the SK and thus would not even have a partner. Why would he protect me if he believed I was mafia?

Mafia can night kill and the SK might want to stay on side.

What? Craplogic.

There is also cpol who has hardly said anything.
I'm not trying to wagon either of these two but want to hear what they have to say. Both have gone largely unnoticed.

Has anyone else done anything bad that your going to point out but then do nothing about ????
What will it take?
A man standing over a body with a knife, shouting Im happy I killed the bastard b4 you vote?
Sitting on the fence is great but it doesnt always get results.
I cant help feel like your trying to divide and conquer
EGMEOY-at least you post but thats about it.
Mod are we replacing Chef and Cpol?
or is it Post or Perish time. No-one likes a Lurker

I brought this up Day 2. DAS attacked Patrick for not voting for a lurker.

I'll continue tomorrow, I need to sleep.

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Paranoid cop. Investigated myself day one and got scum, then cpol, B Rob, and Primate with all scums.

I will not be online until Sunday, the 19th except to quickly check certain topics. Do not panic.

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Here, damn forum crashed when I was making a big post. The jist of it was this:

I don't remember the cop claim, but if I just forgot about it rather than missing it completely, what I had sorted through so far gives me reason to believe it was far enough in the game that I was fairly sure I was paranoid. Knowing that I was a paranoid cop wouldn't give me reason to believe that two other cops was impossible; I've been in mini games with three-ish cops of varying sanities, generally one paranoid, one naive, and one other.

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Here, damn forum crashed when I was making a big post. The jist of it was this:

I don't remember the cop claim, but if I just forgot about it rather than missing it completely, what I had sorted through so far gives me reason to believe it was far enough in the game that I was fairly sure I was paranoid. Knowing that I was a paranoid cop wouldn't give me reason to believe that two other cops was impossible; I've been in mini games with three-ish cops of varying sanities, generally one paranoid, one naive, and one other.

meh. But you investigated yourself N1. Why do that?

Because I figured I'd be investigating myself eventually anyway, so I figured I might as well get it over with. I almost always do so that I can figure out my sanity.

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I'm here, I'm here. I'll keep playing.

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Sorry, no town win yet, DAS is mafia. I sent wolfsbane my role PM, and DAS is the godfather. We didn't know about kristocker at ALL until we were PMed partway through by kristocker telling us she joined our mafia.

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Sorry, no town win yet, DAS is mafia. I sent wolfsbane my role PM, and DAS is the godfather. We didn't know about kristocker at ALL until we were PMed partway through by kristocker telling us she joined our mafia.

I assume he was modkilled, yes?

Who, kristocker? No, we lynched her, remember?