Mini 1368 (Game Over)

[Lupo]

VOTE: Lupo
Because no one voted for me and I feel left out.

jk
UNVOTE:

VOTE: Khan
People with scummies intimidate me

[Lupo]

Basketballstar's reasoning of the preference for circles just confused me as there is no real angle in a circle, since there is only the one line. To put the analogy in complicatedness; he must be wanting all of us connected and be attacking each other while getting nowhere. If it were a triangle, there would most likely be three sides attacking each other for the advantage.
I believe that as town, being laid out as a triangle formation will serve us better.

Why does my analysis mean that pieceofpcanpie is scum? I haven't said anything about him.

All that pieceofpecanpie has done is claim miller, and as far as I see, doing that would most likely be something only a miller would do, thus rendering him in fact town. If you're working on the shape of a pie, it also means nothing because he's only a piece, which would probably be cone-shaped, which fits into my analogy as being a miller.

The information gained from pi tells us the circumference and area of a circle, these are capable of changing between circles and therefore the information gathered still doesn't fit into my analysis of shapes and how the angles of them relate to the game of mafia.

......wtf

[Lupo]

Basketballstar's reasoning of the preference for circles just confused me as there is no real angle in a circle, since there is only the one line. To put the analogy in complicatedness; he must be wanting all of us connected and be attacking each other while getting nowhere. If it were a triangle, there would most likely be three sides attacking each other for the advantage.
I believe that as town, being laid out as a triangle formation will serve us better.

This is stretching very hard. It's one thing to push someone over some minor tell and call it a weak scum read just to get things out of RVS or whatnot, but it just feels like you're trying way too much to make yourself look pro-active.

Lupo, Paschendale, do you have a read on CD?

Well I always try to read past games for behavior differences and what-not. He actually appears to be an intelligent player in other games. As in talking about stuff that actually matters. I don't really have a town-scum read on him just yet. However, he is acting strange in this game.

[Lupo]

Hellhound1 needs more votes.

Why? His vote was clear to me.

[Lupo]

As many people have said, how could you scum read from an RVS vote that was reasonable? Because you liked triangles better? I could go into a rant of how circles are better than triangles but this is not the place to do it, as you should not scum read from this little RVS vote. Just a summary.

So from the quote (bottom), please explain how the circle is a line. It's a 360 degree arc. There is no part you can cut from and transform it into a line. [sarc]And OMG, your analysis is so good that we all believe you now.[/sarc]

Curved lines are still lines, I never said it was a straight line.
If I were to draw half a shape and then lift my pencil off the paper, a circle would be much harder to continue drawing perfectly (unless it's via trace around a round object, but that's a boring way for drawing shapes even if it does mean it's more perfect), a triangle would be easy to get back to since it can be made of 3 lines. This means that the best circle would be made with one continuous line whereas all the shapes that do use straight lines (and have corners) can be made with taking a pencil off the paper.

Reads are developed from whatever information we have available, in your case, my read has come from you preferring the angles of a circle over a triangle, while I believe a circle to not have any exact angles because it has no corners. This is therefore a factual error and I consider those scummy.

Sigh...this is your warning. 1 more post about shapes or anything stupid and I'm voting you.

Also,
UNVOTE:
I don't feel like staying on my RVS vote at this stage is needed. And I don't have any outstanding scum reads other than CD and I'll give him one more chance

[Lupo]

Anyone else not happy at the lack of content from NobodySpecial? Maybe its just me, but he's clearly not posted anything of value to the game yet.

@CD I'd have to agree with pecanpie here, you've posted a load of filler. Will you elaborate more on your reads then?

I feel that way on both Nobody Special and Kublai. With what I've heard about each one I would think that they would be more active. Yeah, Kublai has posted some content but not what I would expect.

[Lupo]

Sorry for double post my multiquote messed up...

Are those the total of your reads from this "reaction test"?

My question as well ^

[Lupo]

This is generally time for a claim.

Just saying for FUT which is obviously new and CD which I hope is new.

[Lupo]

@ Kublai Khan

You seem to be the only one that hasn't said anything about CD.

What do you think about the situation?
Do you think CD would be a sound first day lynch?

[Lupo]

I disagree with pappums and triangle on hellhound.

He didn't really say that CD & FUT were scum, just that he saw instances of buddying which I saw as well.

[Lupo]

I'm here. Sorry, fighting through a cold atm.

Vote: Lupo

Seems to be following a scum strategy of trying to move along lynches while keeping his hands clean. The Cheery Dog claim request was bad. Also, self-voting and self-unvoting in opening post is a sign of being too self-conscious.

1. The only lynch that has been in favor is CD. I was unaware that I was moving along to various lynches when there was only one.

2. Claiming at L-1 is pretty standard for the other games I've been in on site.

3. lol. really? My little RVS joke is scummy? With that reasoning, your opening post which posts the same vote 4 times may be attempting to brainwash others into voting (exactly it's that stupid)

4. Please answer my question in #103

[Lupo]

1. He was at L-1 before I had as much as I wanted on him. I told him he'd have one more chance to post something not stupid, and he's somewhat came around.

2. After he was set at L-1 there were 3 posts from 3 authors saying they would like a claim. This explains my point that it's generally standard to do it.

3. It was just a joke RVS vote. I don't know what else to say.

[Lupo]

2. After he was set at L-1 there were 3 posts from 3 authors saying they would like a claim. This explains my point that it's generally standard to do it.

You were first to ask for a claim, pappums rat is already on the wagon, and basketballstar24 is less scummy than you at the moment.

Ok so I was the first to say it. I didn't know that I had to be voting somebody to say my opinion on them or ask for a claim.

You're basically saying that I'm scummy because I didn't want to vote somebody that I still had doubts on. I felt that a claim at this level would help me decide whether or not he would be a good lynch.

[Lupo]

I felt that a claim at this level would help me decide whether or not he would be a good lynch.

Explain this in more detail please.

With how he is posting anything other than a VT claim would come off as a lie to me.

[Lupo]

I felt that a claim at this level would help me decide whether or not he would be a good lynch.

Explain this in more detail please.

With how he is posting anything other than a VT claim would come off as a lie to me.

What do you make of his claim then?

If he was scum trying to claim VT he would've just came out and said it. I think a lynch without more information on him is a bad move.

[Lupo]

#71

Lupo

, why did you feel the need to give a warning-vote here? If Cheery is your "only" scumread at the moment why are you giving him another chance? Also, if "Cheery" is your only scumread at the moment why are you not asking more questions or some other form of scumhunting here?

It was a scum read but not a strong scum read. It was more distracting than anything and dominated the towns conversation. If he hadn't quit I would've voted him.

He didn't really need more questions. He was just an annoyance that distracted town from it's real goal.

[Lupo]

Then who was of merit for needing question as of that point?

The only things that jumped out was Cheery and NS/KK lurking

[Lupo]

The scummiest on that wagon would be NS.

Honestly, that question made me really see the point of the wagon on him. Lurking is one thing but putting someone at L-1 for no real reason.

VOTE: Nobody Special

[Lupo]

For some reason when I originally read NS's vote on CD he seemed to have posted more content than that. When you told me to go back I noticed how scummy the whole thing really was.

As for HellHound #51 & #113 are more of me challenging the other person for a read I disagree with. KK seemed to not understand the vote that I did, so I tried to clear it up. Pap and Triangle said he was scummy for FOSing FUT and CD when he pointed them out for buddying. even though those were his only reads most people at the time only had those reads so I found it odd that they were both going at him.

[Lupo]

The scummiest on that wagon would be NS.

Honestly,

that question

made me really see the point of the wagon on him. Lurking is one thing but putting someone at L-1 for no real reason.

VOTE: Nobody Special

I know I can be a bit slow at times, and for that I apologize. But

which

question, specifically?

Still would like this answered.

Him asking who I thought was the scummiest on the wagon

[Lupo]

Triple post, yay!

Lupo, NS, and idiotking need to explain why they think supporting a wagon that isnt happening today is a good idea. idiotking isnt even voting atm.

Because I have said many times I do not believe in a HellHound Lynch. I just don't see the case

[Lupo]

So basically what your saying is, I'm scum for having a town read on a player who I thought had a horrible wagon. Then, was right.

[Lupo]

So by me saying why each case was bad (a few times actually), I wasn't engaging?

Also, by me voting for someone else and stating why I wasn't starting a counter-wagon?

Also, me going against his case showed I had a town read on him. I didn't figure that the players would be so stupid to not understand that just because I don't exactly say "he's town."

Your argument is invalid. Try again.

[Lupo]

Piffle. I'm scumhunting. Just because you don't agree with my methods doesn't mean they don't work.

And it's time to add some pressure:

Vote: basketballstar

Uh...Hmm. You are "scum hunting" by placing a vote for "pressure" on player who has pretty much handled the most pressure he can get. I mean he's already claimed and everything. What exactly were you pressuring for?

Until I get an answer, my votes going back on
VOTE: NS

[Lupo]

Uh...Hmm. You are "scum hunting" by placing a vote for "pressure" on player who has pretty much handled the most pressure he can get. I mean he's already claimed and everything. What exactly were you pressuring for?

Until I get an answer, my votes going back on
VOTE: NS

Isn't voting until you get an answer the same thing as placing a vote for pressure?

No it's so it's harder to squirm out of an answer

[Lupo]

V/LA today (sorry just now saying) and tomorrow due to me being on the band and we had an away game tonight and a competition tomorrow.
Will be back sunday

[Lupo]

I'm back (sorry I miscounted a day of my vla) the "hammer" vote is mostly what jumps out at me in my quick reread.

However, seeing as I still do not have an answer, my vote will remain

[Lupo]

Please enlighten me. How have I been scummy?

Please enlighten us...How have you not?

[Lupo]

Lupo, thoughts on BBS' "hammer"? (I think I asked you this earlier but I didn't see you respond - sorry if you did and I missed it.)

I remembered posting something about the hammer but I can't find it either. Anyways I think it's insane that him posting what he thought was a hammer vote on somebody didn't get him lynched.

And for a claim VT

[Lupo]

Sorry for not posting. If anything I'd say NS is scum and I already covered why I didnt change my vote to bbstar

Until I get an answer, my votes going back on
VOTE: NS

I'm back (sorry I miscounted a day of my vla) the "hammer" vote is mostly what jumps out at me in my quick reread.

However, seeing as I still do not have an answer, my vote will remain