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Cyberbob Mafia Scum
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It's always at least somewhat relevant who he claims to have protected even if he does have a roleblocker riding his coattails. I spent more time commenting on it yesterday because it was a much bigger point of contention than it has been so far today. And of course the lynch today is considerably less obvious than pops was yesterday so I'm spending more time and energy thinking about that today.
Posting on my phone so I'll leave it there until I get hometread softly because you tread on my dreams
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(still not at home - found a couple of minutes while I'm on my break)
You're absolutely right that I neglected to follow up on that point, thank you for reminding me. I'm just coming out of a five or six day stretch of working more than 12 hours each day so I more or less forgot about it. You're right that I don't have a huge amount invested in the protects since if it is a fakeclaim then he already has an excuse in place for any failed actions (as we already saw - ***note that this is not the same thing as saying that his claimed protects are 100% irrelevant***). I guess the point I wanted to follow up on yesterday was not to totally let him off the hook over his claim towards the end of the game - something which I believe I did say a few days ago.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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I didn't say anything like 'lol idk why i defended cooldog hehehe', I know exactly why I defended him and I'd do it again in the same position. My reasons for now thinking you are scum are a) you had nothing of any use to say for some time after you replaced in, b) cooldog's wagon stalling at L-1 before dropping off (something which I have also commented on previously) and c) the fact that pops was the one that initiated the counterwagon on Drew.
If you think these three reasons, largely things that I can't possibly have known or commented on before both your replacement and pops' flip, are poor enough reasons for changing my stance on a previous gut read that you might stand a chance of getting a mislynch on me to win the game for your scumteam, then by all means vote me.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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You're hilarious SG. This is the weakest shit I've ever seen, and not only is it the weakest shit I've ever seen, you're pushing it while we have a player slot in the game that had an L-1 wagon on it derailed by flipped scum. Good grief.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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I'm back, though I feel barely alive... had an absolutely MONSTER of a night on Friday, didn't get home until 8am, slept until roughly 8pm, had a bite to eat, went straight back to bed and slept until mid-afternoon today.
Anyway the thing I wanted to say about this post by singer:
In post 2074, singersigner wrote:You're arguing that an L-1 wagon was derailed by a flipped scum and executed ON A CLAIMED VIG is more damning for the person at L-1 as opposed to someone who admittedly didn't care about weeding out a third claim?
Was that:
a) Drew didn't claim until after the hammer (which I see RC already brought up), you haven't been doing your reading. Even if he had claimed at L-1 I fail to see how that has any bearing on anything. Pops didn't hammer him, he just kickstarted his wagon.
b) It would have been entirely safe for pops to have simply just jumped on CoolDoG and ended the day, there were only a few people that were strongly opposed to his lynch. Most were at least ambivalent.
c) Now that we have all our facts in order, yes it is more damning.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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The fact that we're now relying on Goofy and Dessew to cast the deciding votes (both figuratively and literally) on this argument and also most likely the outcome of the game is somewhat concerning. I hope their inactivity is a result of IRL stuff and not a loss of interest.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2106, Squirrel Girl wrote:In post 2103, Cyberbob wrote:Well Dessew being the probable other scum is one thing you and I agree on.
But on a more serious note - yeah, I'm not surprised that your secondary read is him.
I thought you might say that. I'd be quite happy to do you a deal and vote him together today.
Singer is playing the emotion card on you really hard though.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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Cyberbob Mafia Scum
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What, try and convince scum that I'm town? Please. The only way you're getting your vote off me is if you thought it was too unsafe to leave it there and with SG having already confirmed a me/Dessew team in her mind that's not happening. It's essentially down to Goofy to resolve this since Dessew is probably your partner and bussing you at this stage would be tantamount to suicide.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2122, Squirrel Girl wrote:My brain hurts now, I don't know what this means.
It means you need to look back over some of your posts and think about how badly your pre-existing reads have coloured your interpretations of some of the posts both singer and I have made. Jumping down my throat over my comment on a 12 hour lack of posts comes to mind. Iso singer and look at the ratio of actual scumhunting (random gut tells don't count) to white noise meta chat about how much it sucks to be a replacement.
also there's this stellar post
In post 1397, singersigner wrote:Fair enough. I've been out of the house all day today so I'll compare arguments tomorrow.
I remember you making a good point about pops in one of my first posts but I can't remember right now. Noting to look at tomorrow.
@SleepyKrew...engagement
that eventually lead to an L-2 vote on pops with absolutely zero reasoning or any of the elucidation of her thought processes that was promised.
In post 2123, Squirrel Girl wrote:And Cyber can't have backed out once he made that comment and I called him on it.
This is a terrible characterisation of what happened here. Do you think I was secretly hoping to slip that post by you or something?
In post 2123, Squirrel Girl wrote:I just realized bussing isn't as prohibitive for scum as I thought it was today either.
You're still trying to twist this around in your head so that you don't have to change your mind on my alignment or take any kind of a step back from yourself and analyse this critically. As long as we lynch scum today I suppose I don't mind though.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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Cyberbob Mafia Scum
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Oh no wait, I lied (ALERT ALERT). This was singer's followup to that post.
In post 1407, singersigner wrote:In post 1404, I Am Innocent wrote:Pops what do you like about singers play?
Yeah whatdoyou like about my play...
And I remember, it was something about the scum thing farside brought up about pops but then she confused me with another comment about it making me forget I liked it when she stated it more clearly in the first place.
There...that's it. I don't remember why I said if probably vote for IAI, I think I meant pops.
A+ content here. I take back everything I said about singer, she has obviously been paying a serious amount of attention to this game all along. You can tell by the _________________________________ and also all the ____________________________.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2127, Squirrel Girl wrote:I personally think a vote on Pops without trying to claw much attention to the effort is more likely to come from town than scum.
what
what
anyway she didn't try to hide from attention, she just did this:
teh random lollery its just like we were still in rvs XD
In post 2127, Squirrel Girl wrote:I didn't think you expected to slip it by me, I think you might have hoped I didn't go for it.
Ah yes good job, you called my bluff. How did you know!?!?
In post 2127, Squirrel Girl wrote:What is your response to Singer's call about you and her emotional meta? She dinged you with that and I'm looking for clarification, but I noticed that you never addressed it directly - why is that?
There isn't really much to respond to, I guess I'll say that I have an incredibly vaguer-than-vague memory of how she plays as either town or scum since it's been god knows how long since I really thought about mafia, let alone actually played a game of mafia, let alone actually put much thought into individual player metas, let alone actually put much thought into her individual meta. I don't even think I used to put a whole lot of stock in meta tells because of how easily they are to manipulate.
Long story short: I don't remember how she used to play and I wouldn't really care if I did.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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You actually are sort of half right ish about the Dessew thing though: I wasn't expecting you to go for it, I was expecting you to blather on about how much of an obvious bus it supposedly is (which you kind of did) and keep your vote on me anyway.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2125, Cyberbob wrote:Iso singer and look at the ratio of actual scumhunting (random gut tells don't count) to white noise meta chat about how much it sucks to be a replacement.
Also if you don't do this I will be forced to write a sternly worded post about how you are dodging it and questioning your motivation for doing so.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2131, Squirrel Girl wrote:Generally I feel that when scum decide it is time to bus that they would want to, y'know, get some props for the bus. So they tend to try to claw some of the prestige of the wagon to themselves. Make a case, point out a tell, do something to help make it look like they 'caught' the scum or at least helped in the catch. The lazier the vote, the more likely I feel it is to come from town. So, yes, I agree her vote was lazy - but I'm not sure why I'm supposed to believe that when bussing (where the only prize is towncred) she didn't even look like she cared much and also outsourced the credit.
Too scummy to be scum isn't a thing.
In post 2131, Squirrel Girl wrote:The bluff comment from you is just meaningless posturing.
Meaningless posturing in response to self-satisfied preening. It's a wash.
In post 2131, Squirrel Girl wrote:The meta comment...it feels a bit dodgy. So you're agreeing that back in some long forgotten day you may have been aware of some meta on her, but that you certainly wash your hands of it in the here and now even if you did? That's weird.
This isn't remotely a fair or accurate summary of what I said. That's weird.
In post 2131, Squirrel Girl wrote:
It's pretty annoying when people do that isn't it?isn't it?tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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Anyways I'm off to bed, don't forget about this!
In post 2130, Cyberbob wrote:In post 2125, Cyberbob wrote:Iso singer and look at the ratio of actual scumhunting (random gut tells don't count) to white noise meta chat about how much it sucks to be a replacement.
Also if you don't do this I will be forced to write a sternly worded post about how you are dodging it and questioning your motivation for doing so.
Although I'm not sure why you'd even want to ignore or forget it since it is rather pro-town to be able to conduct - in good faith - this kind of activity.
I'll leave you with these two words: active lurkingtread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2160, singersigner wrote:Lol yeah ok two word for you bob
They're not "I'm scum" by any chance?tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2163, singersigner wrote:If Dessew gets lynched today then it'll only come around to "well must be the other scum buddy" because RC has convinced himself that I'm scum regardless,
No word on SG doing the exact same thing to me, but that's to be expected I guesstread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2165, Squirrel Girl wrote:And people think she looks like scum.
yeahtread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2170, Squirrel Girl wrote:I do think you tried to paint it as scummy.
I do think you're wrong and I do wish you'd quit trying to ascribe motivations to my posts that aren't there.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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I mean you're not even trying to hide the fact that these questionable reads are born out of your tunnelling, although I guess if I'm going to be tunnelled I'd rather that you be honest about it than try to hide it behind poor attempts at justification.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2173, Squirrel Girl wrote:You *literally* just said you were trying to suggest she had double standards.
That's calling her scum.
Actually it's calling her a person that has double standards.
In post 2173, Squirrel Girl wrote:You're just trying to make me dismissable now because I'm on to you.
Saving this post for after the game.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2186, Squirrel Girl wrote:@Red - Cyberbob's whole 'double standard' conversation - weird or not weird? I think it looks weird as all get out in a scum sort of way. He's basically calling her scum for a silly reason, I call him on it, and he re-clarifies to that he's...calling her out as having double standards as a person outside of the scope of alignment.
Was I wrong?tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2189, Squirrel Girl wrote:Personally I think, yes, you were wrong because no double standard was applied. I said as much at the time.
Oh well then I guess we can add that to the list of Things Squirrel Girl Has Been Wrong About This Gametread softly because you tread on my dreams
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She was complaining about finding herself in a situation almost exactly equivalent to the one I'm in. Or were you planning on saying something other than "oh well Bob must be the other scum buddy" tomorrow if we lynch Dessew today?tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2192, Cyberbob wrote:She was complaining about finding herself in a situation almost exactly equivalent to the one I'm in. Or were you planning on saying something other than "oh well Bob must be the other scum buddy" tomorrow if we lynch Dessew today?
this was a rhetorical question by the way as you have already made that statementtread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2195, Squirrel Girl wrote:Did she claim you couldn't say it?
Implied
In post 2195, Squirrel Girl wrote:Did she call you scummy for saying it and then say the same thing?
No
In post 2195, Squirrel Girl wrote:Did she claim her situation was unique and that you were not in that situation?
Very Much Impliedtread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2196, Squirrel Girl wrote:You're just buzzwording.
"Buzzwording" is a buzzword.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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I don't want you to come to my rescue lmao. I want you to deal with it because shit happens sometimes and in your case you happened to replace in for a guy who was discovered to have had made a really obvious scum play.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2201, Squirrel Girl wrote:I did some direct threatening earlier - go back and read that if you need to get some terror chills.
I read it at the time, I felt a tingle run up my spine. Then I realised I needed had been slouching in my chair for too long so I did and I felt better.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2204, Cyberbob wrote:In post 2201, Squirrel Girl wrote:I did some direct threatening earlier - go back and read that if you need to get some terror chills.
I read it at the time, I felt a tingle run up my spine. Then I realised I had been slouching in my chair for too long and needed to sit up so I did and I felt better.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2223, Squirrel Girl wrote:Except that we'll still be debating this tomorrow so why not today?
That depends. Do you want the town to lose today or tomorrow?tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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In post 2249, RedCoyote wrote:Pessimism is not a scumtell, btw. Bob's posts in the past two pages are crap, but they're anti-town crap, not scum crap. I don't think SG has had the chance to frame them as scummy yet, but this is just my preemptive response.
I'm well aware of how crap I've been. I just don't really have anything left to say. I've given up on convincing SG of anything and Dessew/singer aren't worth trying to "convince" of anything for obvious reasons.
At this point I'm pretty well convinced that we're going to see a quick last two votes on me right before the end of the day, but I might as wellUnvote, Vote: singersignerand hope for a Dessew bus hammer or somethingtread softly because you tread on my dreams
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Nobody cares about town cases on yourself, the way to make people think you're town is by making good scum cases on other people. Hope this helps you with future endeavours.
I already stated in some fashion the case on you a while ago, but basically as far as I'm aware it's process of elimination/scum neighbour stuff/semi-active lurking (in the sense that you're actively lurking while also not actually posting terribly often).tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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Stalemate? Even if I were to accept the notion that your PoE is equivalent to mine (which I don't), as near as I can tell that still leaves 66.66% of the things I listed off in that post as untouched.
I'm attacking the existence of your 'case' because quite honestly in my view it's fucking irrelevant to anything.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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Cyberbob Mafia Scum
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I was right about 1.5 things this game.
The 1 being that town was pretty much always fucked, and the .5 being somewhat suspicious of RC's claim/his buddying up to me for pretty much the entire time.
Oh well.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more
"quasi-rape" --Vi
"real liberals" --Yos-
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Cyberbob Mafia Scum
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In post 2309, reinoe wrote:SleepyKrew wrote:In post 2305, reinoe wrote:In post 2303, SleepyKrew wrote:You got lucky that farside didn't counterclaim. You also got lucky that you were killed before you could fuck up D2 because of your claim.
It's not luck it's skill. Speaking of fuckups, since you want to go there, you derailed the wagon on scum to attempt a mislynch on town. Please don't talk to anyone about fuckups.
The difference being that I readily admit my faults and mistakes while you're an arrogant assholeish prick.
A screaming babe wailing at his superiors.
Didn't you hammer a pr without giving them a chance to claim?
Shut up.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more
"quasi-rape" --Vi
"real liberals" --Yos-
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Cyberbob Mafia Scum
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In post 2325, reinoe wrote:
Vi wrote:
Cyberbob has been permanently banned from non-Mafia forums for repeated abuse of other sitegoers.
Check the date on that one.tread softly because you tread on my dreams
daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more
"quasi-rape" --Vi
"real liberals" --Yos-
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Cyberbob Mafia Scum
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In post 2328, Goofyd00d wrote:It was my first time getting to day 3, pushing late game gets so much more complex, hard to find the motivation in a game that is permanent Mylo till win.
You find it more complicated in late game? Weird, I usually find it easier since the player group is that much smaller, I have more troubles in the first day or 2 when there are so many different people interacting with one another. The tricky part in late game is if you're trying to push a case on someone that most other players already believe to be town (especially if your town has a lot of stubborn people and/or people that are too scared to be seen as wishy-washy)tread softly because you tread on my dreams
daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more
"quasi-rape" --Vi
"real liberals" --Yos-
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Cyberbob Mafia Scum
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In post 2331, Goofyd00d wrote:I also lack confidence, I find myself scum aligned in live so often when I reach late game. I assumed that was why I was still alive towards the end so I didn't push too hard.
If I had to guess I would have said that you were alive because you were reasonably quiet relative to a lot of the other players, especially farsidetread softly because you tread on my dreams
daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more
"quasi-rape" --Vi
"real liberals" --Yos