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[Goofyd00d]

my son*

[Dessew]

LOL, I call people bad only when I'm grumpy. My mood's been suprisingly good since the weekend. PoE is fair enough, I was hoping a 'real' case, though. Anyway, I suspect a two-player scumteam because of balance: 1. There're potentially two NKs each night and no town role can reduce the number of people dying, yet we're only two on our own (see SK's comments.) 2. There's a similar setup on this forum with three scum, except that it's open, town is more powerful and there's one more player (it's in that mith-project.) That tells me that three scum would be scumsided.
@RC: I think it's quite the contrary. If I thought there were two scum left, I'd just vote the bigger wagon out of singer and Bob. I mean you're town, Squirrel is also most likely town, and Goofy's posting doesn't seem to be beneficial from a scum point of view (stolen argument from CD.) There are three viable lynches today, one of them is me, I'd rather not go into LyLo or MyLo with ths situation. The only solution is to hit scum today (as I don't really like the idea of me being lynched.)

[Squirrel Girl]

@Squirrel: Today I woke up late and had to take an emergency dump and was late to work. My wife and 6 month old visited me when they were out so that was a bright point. After work I started playing a game called Clicker Heroes, which you can try at ClickerHeroes.com, it is pretty cool for a clicker game. I then watched by son for a few hours which he mostly slept through so I could click uninterrupted. Then someone said they hated me, and that made me sads.

What else would you like to talk about?

Well, I did ask you about some things as regards your case on me - we could discuss that.
There is also the Dessew case, of which I've offered thoughts, we could go there.
Also, you seem to have Cyber as town and I very much do not, I wouldn't mind hearing how/why you clear him.

Pick any or all of the above and I'd be pretty tickled.

@Dessew - I see a few holes in that logic. However, let's just say I could convince you that there was a three scum team - who would your suspects be for the last two?

[Goofyd00d]

I haven't said anything about bob all game, if he's scum he's doing a terrible job of steering the game. About Dessew, I shot him down every single time someone attempted to give him credit for being a neighbor this entire game. No one responded then, so I assume anyone who suddenly pushes him after ignoring it until possible Mylo is not town motivated.

That's as much as I can answer off the top of my head on a phone.

[Squirrel Girl]

I was the one who pushed it, and I wasn't around then, so how does that apply? And if anyone who does it isn't town motivated...well, that would be Cyber, who you aren't exactly calling town there. So are you kind of agreeing with me about Cyber being potential scum?

[RedCoyote]

Dessew, I kind of understand that logic, but it seems counter-intuitive in a way, too.

In any case, I could very much see a singer/Dessew/pops scumteam as Goofy's posts are miles away better than Dessew's right now. Dessew is not playing at all to me like he did before this day, which is a red flag. It's almost as though he was waiting for a third singer/Bob vote... I'm starting to get paranoid.

UNVOTE: singersinger

I really, really like singer for scum, but I'm going to force Dessew to put his cards on the table if it kills me.

[RedCoyote]

Also, SG, I'm coming around to your pivot on Dessew only because of what I said above. I'm still kind of confused about your thoughts in regards to bussing. It looks as though you're recanting your scumCyberbob read though (correct me if I am wrong). If this is the case, can I interest you in voting singer?

[singersigner]

Dessew, I kind of understand that logic, but it seems counter-intuitive in a way, too.

In any case, I could very much see a singer/Dessew/pops scumteam as Goofy's posts are miles away better than Dessew's right now. Dessew is not playing at all to me like he did before this day, which is a red flag. It's almost as though he was waiting for a third singer/Bob vote... I'm starting to get paranoid.

UNVOTE: singersinger

I really, really like singer for scum, but I'm going to force Dessew to put his cards on the table if it kills me.

This is actually a really good point about Dessew and makes sense from a "only one scum left" perspective.

[singersigner]

Actually, from my point of view, it makes perfect sence as a Bob/Dessew drive at the end because all Dessew needed would be one more vote on me to hammer for the win. Now Bob's willing to bus his partner in good faith and continue pushing me tomorrow...

[Cyberbob]

Haha yeah maybe............ makes you think.................................

[singersigner]

Lol yeah ok two word for you bob

[Squirrel Girl]

Also, SG, I'm coming around to your pivot on Dessew only because of what I said above. I'm still kind of confused about your thoughts in regards to bussing. It looks as though you're recanting your scumCyberbob read though (correct me if I am wrong). If this is the case, can I interest you in voting singer?

Noooooooooooo! You are very wrong. I still think Cyber/Dessew is the most likely pair out there. Frankly I would prefer it if we lynched Cyber first because I think he's the more likely. I actually kind of feel like this is the second time I've had to say that to you, you are too disconnected to bounce ideas off of and it's very frustrating because you're the closest thing we have to obv. town in this game.

[Cyberbob]

Lol yeah ok two word for you bob

They're not "I'm scum" by any chance?

[singersigner]

Ok, I won't be voting anyone but cyberbob today because his flip is the only one that'll prove I'm town and if that gets me lynched then at least the game will be over and I won't have to go through another day like this. If Dessew gets lynched today then it'll only come around to "well singer must be the other scum buddy" because RC has convinced himself that I'm scum regardless, "credit where credit is due" aside. It should be ether me or cyberbob at this point.

Preview Edit...well...yeah now it just looks like it was my idea

[singersigner]

Lol, it's funny, because the game I replaced cyberbob in, he was harassed out of by scum. I wonder if that's what he's trying to do to be here!

[Squirrel Girl]

I would like to point out that Singer just made it a 1 v 1 request between her and Cyberbob.
That is with Red, Cyberbob, and Goofy calling her scum.
And with her and I calling Cyberbob scum.
With Dessew openly saying he'd vote whichever wagon was bigger.

And people think she looks like scum.

[Cyberbob]

If Dessew gets lynched today then it'll only come around to "well must be the other scum buddy" because RC has convinced himself that I'm scum regardless,

No word on SG doing the exact same thing to me, but that's to be expected I guess

[Cyberbob]

And people think she looks like scum.

yeah

[Squirrel Girl]

[Cyberbob]

You'll note that I wasn't complaining about my situation, I was helpfully informing singer of her double standards.

[Squirrel Girl]

Being aware that the lineup is a you vs. her with Dessew as the likely buddy doesn't actually involve any double standards.
She was also complaining about someone she has fairly consistently been calling town as the kingpin of setting up that situation.
I do think you tried to paint it as scummy. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion.

[Cyberbob]

I do think you tried to paint it as scummy.

I do think you're wrong and I do wish you'd quit trying to ascribe motivations to my posts that aren't there.

[Cyberbob]

I mean you're not even trying to hide the fact that these questionable reads are born out of your tunnelling, although I guess if I'm going to be tunnelled I'd rather that you be honest about it than try to hide it behind poor attempts at justification.

[Squirrel Girl]

You *literally* just said you were trying to suggest she had double standards.
That's calling her scum.
I call it 'painting her scummy' because of my read on you and her - but I am not creating anything magically out of thin air there, I am using the evidence and your own words. You're just trying to make me dismissable now because I'm on to you.

[Cyberbob]

You *literally* just said you were trying to suggest she had double standards.
That's calling her scum.

Actually it's calling her a person that has double standards.

You're just trying to make me dismissable now because I'm on to you.

Saving this post for after the game.