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Post Post #1240 (isolation #200) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:41 am

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In post 1239, Formerfish wrote:You are not a policy Lynch. At least not really. I want to lynch you for your play this game. Policy lynching you would occur before you do any of the stupid shit you are bound to do.

not an option before 5p

and even then probably not please

just end the game haha
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Post Post #1242 (isolation #201) » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:42 am

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like i'd be ok with PLing boon if there were more scum in this town and so boon's randomlolhammers would be more devastating cos scum are controlling wagons

but assuming we lynched correctly today there's not that big of a risk of leaving boon alive
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Post Post #1246 (isolation #202) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:43 pm

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this game is going to give me a migraine

so i'm still alive, meaning varsoon isn't scum, and i probably have a scum in my townpile

i'm incredibly incensed at drake fakeclaiming vt as vig
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #203) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:47 pm

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VOTE: xiao long

kj you are the only person i'm not interested in reevaluating. talk to me about this vote.
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Post Post #1283 (isolation #204) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:14 pm

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In post 1273, killerjester wrote:It's all there.

Black and white.

Clear as crystal.

Drake claimed scum and you defaulted to reading it as sarcasm because you knew he wouldn't flip scum.

this is what i thought as well
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Post Post #1284 (isolation #205) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:15 pm

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In post 1267, Varsoon wrote:Like, literally, Orc is scum but you're all too thick to lynch it.

show them the light, why dont you
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Post Post #1296 (isolation #206) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:58 am

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You're probably town, but for the love of god sit down and sort out your reads

This is me reaching out to you.
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Post Post #1298 (isolation #207) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:33 pm

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varsoon

i have been exhausted the last few days studying for my P exam and i have not had enough time to focus on this game. but i need you to realize that killjester and i are town because i am starting to think you are town as well

i have been waiting all game for you to start pushing me in a meaningful manner, and i wish it could've been sooner. i have been waiting for you to lash out at people and point fingers at random strong townies because that is what you do when said strong townies discount your reads. unfortunately you chose to do it day 3 instead of early day 2 but that's ok

but i need you to click with me if we are going to win this game. i am town. killer is town. this is because of our actions. me/thor, killerjester keeping town pace moving day 2.

you fucking owe me for winning advance wars
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Post Post #1300 (isolation #208) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:12 pm

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have you played with him before?
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #209) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:30 pm

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yeah so if you're going to omgus me this is how you do it
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #210) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:32 pm

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In post 1303, Varsoon wrote:Dude, Orc, you're so gaddamned transparent with your shit.
You're so scum.
But no one else will follow me on that, so,
I guess I'll sheep you out into a loss?

i need you to not be retarded for one game.

just one because i'm not in a playerlist that i know this time

just one game, i need you to remove your pants from your head.
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #211) » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:12 am

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Well, yes.
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Post Post #1312 (isolation #212) » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:53 am

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no, we go into mylo.
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Post Post #1313 (isolation #213) » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:55 am

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actually xiao scum makes perfect sense. he shot BBT because he got fed up with him.

i'm still alive because i've had xiao in my townpile the entire game

perfect. i'll write up a case tonight
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Post Post #1323 (isolation #214) » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:18 pm

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13 player games have 3 scum from my experience.
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #215) » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:38 pm

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That we only have one mislynch left is the most likely scenario and will be an assumption I'm working with
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #216) » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:29 pm

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man i don't really know what to do right now.
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Post Post #1363 (isolation #217) » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:44 pm

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In post 1362, Varsoon wrote:a good case

hey boys

more xiao votes

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Post Post #1371 (isolation #218) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:57 am

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who else makes sense for a bbt kill?

nobody
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #219) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:42 pm

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yeah i'm thinking back to pikmin mafia

and i'm not scum, and nobody else has pointed it out yet.
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Post Post #1382 (isolation #220) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:11 pm

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if scum nightkilled bbt to implicate you, they would've pointed it out

they didn't

hello

i dunno i think this line of reasoning is pretty straightforward

also i don't really know why you 180d your read on me
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #221) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:28 pm

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it's shocking that i wouldn't consider me being scum as an option, isn't it?

jesus christ get this man out of my town
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Post Post #1387 (isolation #222) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:34 pm

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In post 1385, Varsoon wrote:Then there's scum in the Xiao/Orc pool?

yes. specifically it's xiao
In post 1383, Xiao Long wrote:^ Scum slip?

>if scum nightkilled bbt to implicate you, they would've pointed it out
>they would've pointed it out

Didn't you point it out?

unless someone else can explain to me how my post possible could've been construed as a scum slip

because this is scum trying to make up reasons for a scumread
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Post Post #1389 (isolation #223) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:41 pm

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Post Post #1391 (isolation #224) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:47 pm

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nuh uh

also why did you 180 your read on me, conveniently right after i voted you?
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Post Post #1393 (isolation #225) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:59 pm

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In post 1392, Xiao Long wrote:Actually, it was you who 180'd on me first.

this is true and actually inherent in the statement "right after i voted you" and moreover a central point in my question (i had to vote you first in order for you to vote me after) so why did you feel the need to say this?

and if you feel like elaborating more on how my thing was a scumslip that would be cool

you changed your read on me (the only read you changed and the only thing you did in that time period) within 50 posts of me voting you (the only thing i did in that time period) so yes it was "right after i voted you"

tell me about your thought process of how you went back over your reads. what other reads did you go over? i don't see any :/
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Post Post #1394 (isolation #226) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:02 pm

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do you play offsite or do you just not have a completed scum game?
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #227) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:06 pm

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4996502

can you explain the disparity between your argument with rmp and flay with your argument with bbt?

in one argument you were willing to set aside differences to form a cohesive town

and this was the other argument
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Post Post #1399 (isolation #228) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:23 pm

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In post 1396, Xiao Long wrote:What is there to elaborate on? You said scum
would
point out me night killing bbt in an effort to frame me. You pointed out me night killing bbt in an effort to frame me. You are scum. Where's the confusion?

i said
IF
scum nightkilled bbt to implicate you, they would've pointed it out

and the second case is that you nightkilled bbt yourself

since scum did not point it out you nightkilled bbt

in the game that i linked you
-here's a quote, in response to the whole shenanigans about you calling someone a noob "Regardless, this is irrelevant to the actual game, are we done?"
that is you trying to keep town in a focused mindset and away from distractions. this is pro-town. a cursory glance at the link i provided should tell you this, and the disparity between those actions and the shitstorm you threw in here should be obvious. why do you act like you don't understand/

i did not imply the 180 was scummy. i implied nothing but actually here's what i find scummy about it--i saw no transparency in the trajectory of that read. and i actually find your use of "no YOU!!!" pretty funny, and i think you would be willing to use that as a method to deflect accusations as scum.

so i'm good buddy, you can answer my questions now. talk to me about how you revised your reads and why did you feel the need to say that i changed my read first? isn't the latter simply you grasping at straws or is it something else
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #229) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:25 pm

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and if you feel like it you can also try again to lay down your reasoning of how you saw my post as a scumslip

you don't have to and any post of yours certainly won't convince me but i'm pretty sure as soon as people start reading the thread they'll see that you are desperate scum

so like you can try to fix that?
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Post Post #1401 (isolation #230) » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:30 pm

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In post 1397, Varsoon wrote:Mutley is not james.

you're here but you're not actually here

that's a problem
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #231) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:24 am

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In post 1404, acryon wrote:
In post 1402, Xiao Long wrote:This would be the third time saying it, but ok:
You said scum would call out the idea of me killing BBT.
You called it out.
Therefore you are scum.
Questions?

This is not right. You and Boon need to stop throwing out these "scum-slips." Scum-slips, in actuality, are
very
rare, so it should be quite low on your radar.

heyooo

can we vote xiao yet?
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #232) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:27 am

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im tired but if you want a super quick rundown of why xiao is scum
-bbt kill
-scumslip nonsense
-omgus
and more recently
In post 1402, Xiao Long wrote:You wouldn't have brought up the 180 if you weren't trying to paint it as scummy

this is shitty
In post 1402, Xiao Long wrote:I'm not interested in talking to scum about my reads at this point. .

this is shitty
In post 1402, Xiao Long wrote:But I did the same thing this game? 695 and 700 in this game both tried to get back to the game and BBT wouldn't let us.

and this is a lie

look at the newbie game to see how xiao defuses situations as town

and then vote him

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Post Post #1419 (isolation #233) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:10 pm

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there
is no wifom

bbt kill makes no sense for anybody aside from MAYBE me


so set up a 1v1 between xiao and me in your minds

and lynch one of us today
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Post Post #1420 (isolation #234) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:11 pm

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In post 1411, Formerfish wrote:Orc your arguments are weak and reachy, and you are playing more and more like Thor would as the day goes on. I do not like this.

this is a thinly veiled threat

why are you threatening me
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Post Post #1421 (isolation #235) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:12 pm

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In post 1413, Varsoon wrote:If scum is the one who was gonna point out the bbt kill link to Xiao, and Orc pointed out the bbt kill link to Xiao...
D:
If I am right on Orc-scum, I'll flip my lids.

NO

I'M GOING TO LOSE MY MIND WITH YOU RETARDS IN THIS GAME

THERE ARE TWO POSSIBILITIES HERE

1) SCUM POINTS BBT KILL BACK TO XIAO
2) XIAO KILLS BBT

1) HAS NOT HAPPENED BECAUSE NOBODY FUCKING POINTED IT OUT ASIDE FROM ME AND I AM TOWN
THEREFORE XIAO KILLED BBT
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Post Post #1422 (isolation #236) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:13 pm

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like yes the other stuff is legit too but the bbt kill just wadiofhadsfnvmnbadhinkd
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Post Post #1423 (isolation #237) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:14 pm

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what if it's formerfish though
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #238) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:16 pm

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nah it's probably just xiao
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Post Post #1425 (isolation #239) » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:17 pm

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In post 1411, Formerfish wrote:Orc your arguments are weak and reachy, and you are playing more and more like Thor would as the day goes on. I do not like this.

In post 1412, acryon wrote:
In post 1411, Formerfish wrote:Orc your arguments are weak and reachy, and you are playing more and more like Thor would as the day goes on. I do not like this.

Agreed

hey boys

engage with me
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Post Post #1430 (isolation #240) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:47 am

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can this lynch happen already?

i'm pretty ready for this lynch
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Post Post #1433 (isolation #241) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:33 am

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In post 1432, Formerfish wrote:Did youiimmediately come in thread at day start and point a finger at the player you implicated with the kill?

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Post Post #1434 (isolation #242) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:39 am

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In post 1432, Formerfish wrote:Orc, my problem with you right now is how basic of an argument you are making and the fact that you are not allowing any other possibility to come forth

1. orci is good
2. it's a basic argument, yes.
3. what other possibilities? i'm giving the possibility that i think most likely. that's what i do in this game. a lot of things are possibilities and i try to determine which one is most likely. hello, nice to meet you.
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Post Post #1435 (isolation #243) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:42 am

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i believe in nightkill analysis when they're weird like fuck.

scum right now are in a very comfortable position (low-priority targets, commonly townread people are being kept alive, so scum want to preserve the current gamestate)
related to that, it's likely that someone bussed pretty heavily on the thor wagon (above, and randommidget was weird)
bbt just boggles my mind (and it can point literally only to xiao)
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Post Post #1437 (isolation #244) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:09 am

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pardon?
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #245) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:11 am

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like i have an idea of what you're trying to say but i'm hoping that you actually mean something else

because if anybody suggests to me
one more time
that i should play this game thinking that i am scum

i will lose a lot of shits
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #246) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:36 pm

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In post 1440, Formerfish wrote:Ok, Orc try to follow. BBT was very vocal in scum reading myself and Xiao. Scum kills BBT to cast suspicion on the two people being scum read by dead town. You saying that Xiao
must
be scum based off the night kill is exactly why BBT was killed. Now it could have gone a different way, the push could be for me to be scum just as easy. Scum would have seen an opportunity to cast suspicions on two people and not really care which way it went. And I do believe that scum would sit back and let the situation unfold organically. Coming out of the gate pointing a finger at the most obvious suspect is not exactly subtle. I mean let's think this through for a second. Scum comes out and says it must have been Xiao, it makes perfect sense. We lynch Xiao and he flips town. What does scum who pointed finger do, hand wave it away? Doing what you say is the logical scum tactic in this situation is actually counterintuitive to smart play here.

And you are going to have to buck up there and put your big boy pants on today and stop bitching about being scum read. You are not conftown and a lot of the town cured your slot did have has been spent on bad pushes.

Were you able to find any past scum games for me? Or care to respond to anything else from my post? Or Xiaos post?

if xiao flips town i'm going after acryon. i have tangible reasons for townreading you and kj. in my hard reset last night phase i was not sure why i had xiao and acryon in my townpile in the first place.

you can say i'm queuing up mislynches. that sounds really familiar

because the thing is, i believe a certain line of thought (someone in my townpile is scum) and i have very strong reasons for believing so (gamestate analysis + nightkills). yes, i will lynch through people in my ex-townpile because i think there's scum there. yes, it's a valid strategy. in fact i just lead town to win a game through that strategy. i replaced in with town in an excellent position, saw we had 2 mislynches left, towncleared two people based on INCREDIBLY SIMPLE reasoning (literally my ENTIRE CASE was that day 1 interactions with scum didn't make sense), and lynched through that pile

wrt nightkills not being a good reason or whatever, i actually really like thor as a player even though i don't play with him often, and one of the things i *remember* reading from him (this was a while back when i used to actually read what people wrote about mafia theory) was that OMGUS is often misapplied.

you are misapplying OMGUS. someone who was commonly read as town is being lynched today because nightkills tell us that WE are off our fucking marks with scumreads this game. that person is xiao or maybe acryon because i believe in you being town, i believe in kj being town, and i know that i am town and stop fucking telling me to play this game assuming i'm scum, because that's what people are doing with that scumslip nonsense. someone who everyone had their townpiles is scum. that's why randommidget of all people was killed, that's why bbt was killed. scum is trying to preserve gamestate right now and we should really change that.

and your next reply to me will contain a substantial argument against my analysis beyond "all nightkills are omgus"

because they are not, my friend.
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #247) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:38 pm

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In post 1440, Formerfish wrote:Scum kills BBT to cast suspicion on the two people being scum read by dead town. You saying that Xiao must be scum based off the night kill is exactly why BBT was killed.

there is also the fact that xiao had a personal thing with bbt

and why the fuck would scum kill bbt and not like you or kj or me or even xiao in this scenario

everyone had xiao in their townpile and looking back i have no idea why
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #248) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:40 pm

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i had 80 posts in frog mafia

from my 13th post i had scum down to primate/prohawk/massive

do you know what we did

we lynched through that pile and won
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #249) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:42 pm

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lining up mislynches is such a bullshit scummy comment because how the fuck does it show that someone has scum intent?

if you are town you are trying to LYNCH people who you think are scum

so if you think multiple people could be scum

you would be willing to lynch through those people
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Post Post #1448 (isolation #250) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:43 pm

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In post 1446, Formerfish wrote:Acryon is not to be touched. Going after him would be a fairly large mistake for you to make.

right now i agree

if xiao flips town something is terribly wrong with this game
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Post Post #1449 (isolation #251) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:45 pm

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like how on earth could i be scum right now

you are telling me

1. my predecessor hardbussed thor so hard she replaced out of the game
2. i come in and immediately resume what was happening
3. i make nightkills on randommidget and bbt, and spend all day trying to push a shitton of stupid up a mountain trying to change the gamestate, when my plan from my nightkills was to PRESERVE gamestate?

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Post Post #1450 (isolation #252) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:46 pm

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"oh but orci omgus omgus"

do you actually feel like nothing is wrong with this game right now?

because these past two nightkills are not the nightkills of a scumteam in trouble

they are of a scumteam sitting right comfortable on their fucking throne
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Post Post #1451 (isolation #253) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:47 pm

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come on fish

say more things

make an actual case / push on zeb

do something
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Post Post #1452 (isolation #254) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:48 pm

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In post 1440, Formerfish wrote:What does scum who pointed finger do, hand wave it away? Doing what you say is the logical scum tactic in this situation is actually counterintuitive to smart play here.

ha. ha. and yet people think i am scum

that's pretty funny

formerfish do you see the humor?
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Post Post #1453 (isolation #255) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:51 pm

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In post 1452, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 1440, Formerfish wrote:What does scum who pointed finger do, hand wave it away? Doing what you say is the logical scum tactic in this situation is actually counterintuitive to smart play here.

ha. ha. and yet people think i am scum

that's pretty funny

formerfish do you see the humor?

because

1. if xiao is scum, i'm pretty townie for this unless you think i literally hardbussed thor and xiao almost successively
2. if xiao is town, you just gave the reason as to why i can't be scum

don't try to reply to this you'll melt down into a steaming pile of OMGUS spaghetti
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #256) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:07 pm

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In post 1454, Formerfish wrote:I have a theory on how you could be scum that involves me being ok with lynching Xiao.

i agree with that theory completely and i love your replies to all my posts directed to you

1v1 me and xiao, 2 scum me and xiao, go ahead.

whatever it takes buddy

see this is me restraining from calling you out for not answering any points i gave because i want you to feel nice and comfortable and vote xiao
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Post Post #1456 (isolation #257) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:11 pm

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and
In post 1434, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:1. orci is good
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #258) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:33 pm

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not really. it's morning here and i'm vla leaving to bali in 3 hours and i won't be dealing with you after that for a while!
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Post Post #1460 (isolation #259) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:36 pm

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What other possibilities are you referring to?
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Post Post #1461 (isolation #260) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:36 pm

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vla til 31st
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Post Post #1463 (isolation #261) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:15 pm

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Maybe

Incidentally delays really suck
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Post Post #1464 (isolation #262) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:16 pm

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I still believe in former fish for the time being

I'd look at former fish maybe under very specific circumstances which will not happen today

Choo choo xiao wagon
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Post Post #1465 (isolation #263) » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:19 pm

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Departing from my nice and cozy tunnel

My preferred lynchpool today, in exponentially decreasing order, is xiao, Zebulin, acryon
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Post Post #1468 (isolation #264) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:19 pm

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In post 1467, Xiao Long wrote:It's possible we're both town and scum is laughing at us.
It's possible scum didn't even killl BBT and BBT died some other way.
etc. I don't particularly believe those happened, but I'm open to the possibility so that I can analyze the game a little better than just tunneling on derp logic.

hello town i am using my loudspeaker voice

both these possibilities make no sense for xiao long to say as town

to the first: he believes i am scum
to the second: bbt and konowa died. he thinks bbt was the vig?

please lynch asap
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Post Post #1470 (isolation #265) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:28 pm

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SO WHAT OTHER POSSIBILITIES ARE YOU REFERRING TO
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Post Post #1472 (isolation #266) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:33 pm

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In post 1467, Xiao Long wrote:
In post 1460, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:What other possibilities are you referring to?


It's possible we're both town and scum is laughing at us.
It's possible scum didn't even killl BBT and BBT died some other way.
etc. I don't particularly believe those happened, but I'm open to the possibility so that I can analyze the game a little better than just tunneling on derp logic.

1. xiao is not actually open to other possibilities because he just said that he doesn't believe in them
2. no other possibilities exist. either scum killed bbt to frame xiao or xiao killed bbt. the first i rule out because nobody has pushed xiao yet so it has to be the second

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Post Post #1474 (isolation #267) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:45 pm

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In post 1459, Xiao Long wrote:So, just to be clear, your entire "case" on me is bad nightkill analysis where you choose to only recognize two of the several possibilities?

i choose to only deal with two of the several possibilities because only two of the several possibilities make sense

i then asked you what other possibilities you refer to

you then gave two possibilities that don't make sense and that you CANNOT believe if you were town

so you do not deal with those possibilities

just as i do not deal with those possibilities

so remind me why you are discrediting my case

oh yeah

caught scum etc
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #268) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:51 pm

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Yeah like I have said numerous numerous times today is a 1v1 between me and you

Scum would've pointed out bbt kill earlier

It still doesn't make that much sense to kill bbt in order to frame you and push for a mislynch

Like the only reasoning behind bbt would be xiao making the kill
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Post Post #1477 (isolation #269) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:52 pm

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Look at those weak loaded questions

Look at them

open your eyes and see
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Post Post #1479 (isolation #270) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:01 pm

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In post 1478, Xiao Long wrote:So you're basically admitting to not paying attention to anyone else in the game? That's pretty anti-town.

actually another factor in why you are scum is you have not been paying attention to anything else the past few pages aside from me

whereas i've been trying to look at this game through a wider lens aside from just pushing your lynch
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Post Post #1480 (isolation #271) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:04 pm

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In post 1465, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Departing from my nice and cozy tunnel

My preferred lynchpool today, in exponentially decreasing order, is xiao, Zebulin, acryon

In post 1451, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:come on fish

say more things

make an actual case / push on zeb

do something

like for instance i've been calling acryon and fish in engaging, gave my list of you/zeb/acryon as ppl i'm looking at today and tried to sync with varsoon

and you have devoted all of today to me

im flattered and all but you aren't actually doing anything else

soo
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Post Post #1482 (isolation #272) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:11 pm

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hey xiao i didn't realize that i couldn't use wagons as a catalyst to start conversation!

wait a minute i think i can

hmmmmm
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Post Post #1483 (isolation #273) » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:12 pm

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hey rain stopped i'm outie bye bye

if i could have another present and have xiao lynched by the time i come back like thor was

that'd be really awesome

cya!
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #274) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:36 am

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In post 1489, Zebulin wrote:Null: Orcinus_theoriginal, Xiao Long If one flips town/scum the other goes to scum/town

this seems really lazy
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #275) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:50 pm

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I can do zeb

Was not paying attention to deadline. My bad
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Post Post #1503 (isolation #276) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:53 pm

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I'm flying tonight in about 10 hours. Will not land before deadline.

I can do xiao or zeb. I don't want boon, and I don't think we are ready for anybody else

That being said I will vote largest wagon before I take off

Unfortunately I now have to go

Not looking at deadline was my bad I'm really sorry
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Post Post #1504 (isolation #277) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:59 pm

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I honestly think scum is two between xiao/zeb/acryon by game state alone and I have townreads on like everyone else

Going to swap my list a little. Fish is my strongest townread, replacing killer jester because I have no idea where the fuck the latter went today. Boon is also town

Varsoon is also still town

If xiao or zeb flip town just fucking ignore me about everything
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #278) » Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:19 pm

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Acryon is a weird read of mine and I'm not totally sure why I feel that way. Inactivity generally just rustles my jitters

More later
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Post Post #1511 (isolation #279) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:19 am

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Hello I oppose a boon lynch
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #280) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:25 am

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Phone posting at airport

Your case falls flat when you consider boon is a VI

His meta checks out

And I still refuse to believe he is scum playing fancy with hat self vote earlier
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Post Post #1514 (isolation #281) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:26 am

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Ignoring you could be half hearted reading or annoyance with you
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #282) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:27 am

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I am literally gone from this thread in like an hour and I'd love to see a claim from xiao before then
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Post Post #1517 (isolation #283) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:30 am

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Also my entire scumpile has been throwing dirt at boon all game which makes me feel good enough about that read

Pedit what the fuck why are you working with the assumption of boon not being a VI WE WENT OVER THIS ON D2?
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #284) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:32 am

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Boon is garbage, and that is not alignment indicative.

We've been through this


Thor quick hammer makes little sense for scum

His d1 twilight play makes no sense for scum

His self vote makes no sense for scum

Stop.
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Post Post #1520 (isolation #285) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:33 am

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Like go through boon's main actions d1 and d2

I am having a very difficult time seeing those actions as scum w/ thor
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Post Post #1521 (isolation #286) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:37 am

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Like if you're scum reading boon for zeb vote why didn't you scum read him for hammer?

Oh yeah cos thor flipped scum

Zeb might flip scum as well so I mean I don't see your qualms
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Post Post #1525 (isolation #287) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:45 am

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Re zeb: I'm increasingly open to the idea scum kj went afk because I misread him
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #288) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:07 am

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Wrt distancing: you are invoking wifom in a really loud way BC boon is unlikely to be capable of an act like twilight d1 and I really don't see it

Wrt VI being a convenient excuse: I have no idea what "convenient" or "excuse" means in this sentence. Do you mean to say "hey orci your narrative makes sense, it must be convenient"? Because yes, that is why I believe it in the first place

You are not getting this mislynch
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Post Post #1529 (isolation #289) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:18 am

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In post 1528, Xiao Long wrote:Oh, please explain how. Just because you don't see it? You've been pretty blind both D2 and 3, I'd hardly trust your judgment.

bbt
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Post Post #1530 (isolation #290) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:19 am

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In post 1528, Xiao Long wrote:Stop being fucking dense, dude. It's convenient in the sense that Boon can just do any fucking ridiculous thing he wants as scum with the hope of writing it off as being VI. And then people like you believe it. Or you don't believe it and you two or scum buddies. Or you don't have to believe it because you already know everyone who is town or not.

errr ok

so this is a policy lynch now?
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Post Post #1531 (isolation #291) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:21 am

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In post 1529, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 1528, Xiao Long wrote:Oh, please explain how. Just because you don't see it? You've been pretty blind both D2 and 3, I'd hardly trust your judgment.

bbt

you also think i am scum so why are you trying to discredit my judgement? that is not the reason you arent listening to me. you aren't listening to me because you think i am scum.

kinda awk
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Post Post #1533 (isolation #292) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:27 am

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do you want to talk about being dense?

your vote is still on me

with 8 hours to go to deadline

i think dense right now is thinking that this lynch can possibly happen

can you please fucking claim
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #293) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:28 am

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i mean sorry for giving credit in thinking that you were about to default to lynching boon

because holy shit you are not going to get my lynch today?

there is no way you are town
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #294) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:30 am

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In post 1532, Xiao Long wrote:Yes, I think you are scum. I'm not listening to you because I think you have a shitty line of thinking, not because I'm scum reading you.

you're not listening to me BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO LYNCH YOU THIS ENTIRE DAY
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Post Post #1536 (isolation #295) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:31 am

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acryon the two of us have only 30 minutes together

i want to treasure it
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #296) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:35 am

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no!!!!

if you are town right now

you are saying that you doubt my read on you because i use bad logic, misrep, whatever

you SHOULD be saying that you doubt my read on you because
i am reading you as scum and you are actually town
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Post Post #1539 (isolation #297) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:37 am

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i am leaving in 20 minutes. why are you not claiming?
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #298) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:49 am

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but why do you even say things like "I'd hardly trust your judgement"

my judgement is to lynch you

you don't even fucking need to talk about my credibility you wouldn't trust my judgement because
i'm trying to lynch you


this is cogdis
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Post Post #1542 (isolation #299) » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:53 am

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if you have a claim that i should know about

well actually i assume you don't have a claim that i should know about since you are refusing to give it to me before i leave

ok cool
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Post Post #1949 (isolation #300) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:18 am

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I'M

SO

MINDBLOWN
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #301) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:20 am

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In post 1947, Varsoon wrote:No one ever cares what CONFIRMED TOWN VARSOON said once he's a corpse.

i mean you also pushed town-me pretty hard in this game and in AW
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Post Post #1955 (isolation #302) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:20 am

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oh my god what the fuck killer was scum?
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Post Post #1956 (isolation #303) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:21 am

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In post 1954, acryon wrote:but it's one of those things where I could just never forgive myself if he was scum, and I would never know.

he trust told super hard

wtfffff killer was scum wtfffffffffff
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Post Post #1958 (isolation #304) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:22 am

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im siteflaking

fuck this game
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Post Post #1974 (isolation #305) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:29 am

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i'm actually siteflaking

varsoon i'm about to flip out at you and quote all the bits where you called me scum
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Post Post #1979 (isolation #306) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:30 am

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hey bbt why were you fucking with me in deadchat
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Post Post #1981 (isolation #307) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:31 am

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hey bbt also we wouldn't have lost this game IF YOU ANNOUNCED YOUR INNO ON BOON
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Post Post #1984 (isolation #308) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:33 am

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so let me just recap

1) lynched thor, lynched xiao, lost to fucking killerjester of all people???
2) had a cop inno on TRUST TELLING BOONSKIIES, and boon
still
got lynched
3) bbt lied to me in deadchat and told me zeb was last scum
4) motherfucking varsoon scumreads me the entire last day i was alive and is generally a pain in my sides and then parrots about how good his reads are
5) what the fuck zeb's last day

lord give me strength
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Post Post #1985 (isolation #309) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:33 am

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In post 1983, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:PEdit - Why the fuck would I out I was a PR Orc?

BECAUSE YOU HAD AN INNOCENT RESULT ON BOON???????
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Post Post #1986 (isolation #310) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:34 am

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please go consult generally well-regarded individuals on how to play JOAT or cop because there are some glaring and objectively wrong facets of your play
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Post Post #1991 (isolation #311) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:36 am

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where was your crumb
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Post Post #1993 (isolation #312) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:38 am

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In post 1990, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I fucking crumbed it hard

In post 52, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I don't like crumbing in case it's only scum who pick it up,

In post 54, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I think I crumbed once and got burnt pretty bad. I was cop, crumbed my inno, scum picked it up instantly and killed me that night. Town didn't notice it, at all. That kinda put me off doing it again.
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Post Post #1998 (isolation #313) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:44 am

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In post 1996, Xiao Long wrote:This Orc melt is ridiculous. You probably should site flake.

操你妈比

你这种杂种还在这里瞎混 狗都不如 我忍屎忍尿也忍不下你
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #314) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:54 am

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In post 2002, Xiao Long wrote:No one should be flaming, but Orc's Chinese post is pretty bad...

滚走吧,小小台巴子
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Post Post #2057 (isolation #315) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:41 pm

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can i just say for a minute thor is my idol onsite and i agre with everything he says
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