notty is one of the most easy to read players on the site, this policy is bollocks, You are scum.
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In post 85, Asher Kendrell wrote:Forgive the new guy here, but what's the difference between meta and policy?
Meta is using pervious experience with a player to define their alignment.
policy is more of a you want to lynch a player because they'll be a problem and anti-town regardless of alignment so you want to weed em out first.
I don't really like the practice of policy, there's WotO and WotC and so many other options that can be used instead, and also BBT's supposed policy of notty is faulty.I bloom in spring?
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In post 92, Asher Kendrell wrote:In post 89, Sakura Hana wrote:In post 85, Asher Kendrell wrote:Forgive the new guy here, but what's the difference between meta and policy?
Meta is using pervious experience with a player to define their alignment.
policy is more of a you want to lynch a player because they'll be a problem and anti-town regardless of alignment so you want to weed em out first.
I don't really like the practice of policy, there's WotO and WotC and so many other options that can be used instead, and also BBT's supposed policy of notty is faulty.
So in both cases, you use previous experience with a certain player to determine how they're going to act/if they're going to be a problem?
Well yes, but the difference is that in the former you can tell their alignment and in the later you can't tell their alignment and you don't care because they'll be a problem/liability regardless. pie explained it better than me actually.I bloom in spring?
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Also tbh, when i read the first page i was about to come yelling at you all for spreading your votes everywhere during RVS, but this turned out better than i expected as i got a scumread without the need to participate in RVS.
On the other reads: pie town, soren maybe town, everyone else is still null.I bloom in spring?
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In post 96, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:So...not many reads then?
Pretty much, what else were you expecting?I bloom in spring?
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Yet you are voting someone not voting you, gg.I bloom in spring?
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That's not what he meantI bloom in spring?
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In post 110, pieguyn wrote:I'm glad to say I think you're town, too. why do you think Soren is town?
His play asking questions about notty, seems to try to figure out where people's mindsets and motivations are.I bloom in spring?
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In post 110, pieguyn wrote:OK. then given AK isn't voting you, what are you doing to figure out who the scum on your wagon is?
He's doing nothing, except poke fun at my implication of the same.I bloom in spring?
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In post 113, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I like Asher for scum based on something other than him voting me.
You did imply this when I voted you, but you were already voting him back then, why do you think he's scum? pie said the same but all i see is a bunch of null posts coming from him.I bloom in spring?
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In post 113, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Given everyone's reasoning for voting me is pretty shit, I can't distinguish between bad town and scum taking advantage of an opportunity presented to them by previously mentioned bad town.
a.k.a All of them could be "stupid town" and your post is a bunch of bollocks.
I'd think that if you think scum is on your wagon you'd distinguish a difference among the people voting you, but you think they are all equally bad votes, so why do you come to that conclusion? it still seems like another bollocks reasoning to me.I bloom in spring?
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I mean if someone was a real dayvig and vig'd 5 pages into the game without the whole playerlist here and not much info to go on, i'd yell at them regardless of flip. No town day vig, vigs this early, and a scum day vig would vig this early to say "Oops! sorry i really thought that'd be scum!".
Although you do get town points for that.I bloom in spring?
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In post 149, pieguyn wrote:yes, but if you're curious to know about whether or not I'm scum reading you, you should naturally be curious as to *why*.
you ask if I'm scum reading you. I say "yes" and don't explain the reason. you proceed to drop said line of questioning at that point.
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In post 153, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You're going to vote for Asher now, right?
you're doing the exact same thing!I bloom in spring?
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In post 158, Asher Kendrell wrote:I am curious as to why, doesn't mean I plan on immediately asking it.
What.
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Ok i'm literally here sitting wondering why AK would not be interested in knowing why you're being scumread.
Possible Explanations: He's scum and is going for a dismissal, He's newbie and is confused, He's just blatantly ignoring the scumread (why? because he's scum).
So BBT is probably busing. Why?
Possible Expalantions: Early towncred, A Newbie would likely trip him over, He's actually town (but he's still not scumhunting?).
But what if BBT's not Busing.
Goddamit now i feel like my mind is going in circles @_@I bloom in spring?
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You're as silly as mala.I bloom in spring?
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In post 167, Asher Kendrell wrote:I don't think I've been dismissing anything, I think I've currently responded to everything, and I am still confused.
You see, if you were actually town, you'd be interested in hearing why pie's scumreading you, because then you'd have a grasp of her motivations whether she's wrong town or scum going for a ML, you don't seem the least bit interested in her motivations for her scumread on you.I bloom in spring?
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In post 179, Soren wrote:What's the scum read on bulge?
Coming from the complete dismissal of the discussion on AK's motives for ignoring pie's scumread and instead granting him a townread for nonsensical reasons, to the vote on notty for similar reasons than BBT.I bloom in spring?
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In post 206, The Bulge wrote:1) How did I dismiss it? I gave my opinion. Not agreeing with someone's read doesn't mean I'm dismissing it.
You didn't comment at all on the discussion about him, you just said "Oh he's town because IRL". Giving a read on someone doesn't mean that you're commenting on any sort of discussion regarding that person. You're dismissing it.I bloom in spring?
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In post 209, pieguyn wrote:I don't really know which of {you, Asher} I'd rather vote at this point.
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In post 217, pieguyn wrote:but don't think they're aligned.
See you omitted something like this before.
I figured if you thought both are scum the sheer ammount of numbers would indicate that it'd be easier to help BBT bus his partner.
In other regards, it's kinda silly to figure out who's aligned with who at this point, and you've been questioning AK a lot, yet kept your vote on BBT.I bloom in spring?
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In post 225, pieguyn wrote:do you disagree with my stated reasoning above?
Considering i've been pushing the interactions as busing, yes.
In post 225, pieguyn wrote:I'm pretty sure you remember this isn't a thing for me? I question people who I'm not voting without moving my vote relatively often.
I'm pretty sure i don't pay attention to your town games when i'm scum (which is pretty much the latest 2 games we've played together), and last thing i remember about you is that you scum used to be more laid back and town you more aggresive, and you've been trying to break that meta for months, while i dont find it unreasonable for you to do this. You haven't not only questioned AK, but you've also been saying "Youre scum because X" without interacting much with BBT if at all, until your most recent posts, despite BBT asking you to move your vote to the person who you seemed to without a shadow of doubt, be scumreading. At least the tone in your posts indicated as such.I bloom in spring?
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In post 253, pieguyn wrote:I'm not sure where in my posts you're getting that I was confident on him being scum. and while my early posts towards BBT were only half-serious, I was serious when I said that him suggesting a PL was something I think he'd be more likely to do as scum
It's something on the tone of your posts.
Also why is BBT calling out for a PL on notty during RVS more likely to make him scum, than him calling out that there's scum in his wagon and not doing anything to find it?, in your latest posts you've focused quite a bit on that PL, and you never mentioned this other issue again, also why is that more scummy than the reason for your scumread on AK?I bloom in spring?
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In post 311, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Like, here you're talking about how great my wagon is and how it contains two of your town reads plus yourself.
Tell me where i said your wagon was great because of it containing 2 townreads on it.
In post 311, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Who had 'weird reactions'?
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In post 313, notscience wrote:why is bulge scum
I already answered this question before.
In post 315, Huntress wrote:There's something "off" about BlankFace
Good to know im not the only one feeling like that.I bloom in spring?
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In post 326, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You gonna say what you didn't like about the reaction?
Yeah, the fact that my wagon was composed of only my townreads gave me pause and made me rethink, which is when i saw pie's movements and decided to vote there instead, but then you came and went saying "OH SO SINCE MY WAGON HAS YOUR TOWNREADS I MUST BE TOTES SCUM RIGHT?!" and I went "oh this guy's just taunting me now, must be scum" and voted back there again, then afterwards i remembered how i let off a correct scumread on paradise lost because of someone else's reactions causing me to misvig and i'm not gonna make the same mistake again, so i went back to my vote on pie.I bloom in spring?
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In post 326, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:@Sakura - Blank feels pretty town to me. Not sure what you're seeing.
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In post 329, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Why would a wagon you're on, with the people you're town reading, give you pause and make you rethink?
Because people never follow me, when im voting scum. No matter how much i argue, quote and yell.I bloom in spring?
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So says the one that likes to fake guilties...I bloom in spring?
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In post 391, Cho wrote:I know I don't say it much, but I'm really proud of how much your scumgame has improved. Annoyed, but proud. Good job, mijo.
Does NY 182 have anything to do with that.I bloom in spring?
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In post 178, Sakura Hana wrote:notty's prob town since he's been voted by 2 scum at the very least.
Thinking back to this, i need to stop drawing conclusions from facts that have never happened.
notty's still town tho.I bloom in spring?
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In post 406, notscience wrote:I think Sakura's more likely at this moment and don't think they are scum together, so.
If that's what you think then where's your vote? i rather you be voting me than silly lynchbait like Soren.I bloom in spring?
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In post 423, pieguyn wrote:I just voted BBT bc he was being wagoned.
Oh ok, that's what I thought.I bloom in spring?
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btw @BlankFace: RC always plays like that, and i kinda wanted to WotC him (also because i know he has a tendency to do ANYTHING to get his scumreads lynched, like faking guilties), but oh well. I can never tell what he's thinking, but i dont remember ever playing a game with scum-him so i don't know if his scumgame is similar to his town game or anything, so im probs just gonna put him as null and ignore him for the most of the game.I bloom in spring?
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In post 529, notscience wrote:nd that also means you need to push pie and sakura to hell tomorrow
Why not push me today instead? Do you even have anything to lose by voting me instead of sitting there lolvoting Soren?
I thought it was obvious that when I got a townread on pie I agreed with his points.
Rather i find it weird that you accused me of WKing you when i wasn't even townreading you until Bulge entered the game (and i explained why i townread you), you know how I have a tendency to townread ppl just because they get pushed by my scumreads, but *shrug* you're scum anyway.I bloom in spring?
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In post 531, notscience wrote:And what happens when pie comes in here and 180's her read on me? You going to stick to this read based on /her/ thoughts or are you going to act like you have an original thought regarding me? For someone insanely good at reading me it sure is interesting that you are just sheeping someone else's read on me.
For someone supposed to be good at reading me as well, you sure went very wrong based on a white knighting that never existed.I bloom in spring?
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In post 533, notscience wrote:You two would just WK each other and flaunt your history of reading each other to coast until lylo, easy
And who was it who said that we weren't scum together?
Well either way.
I see you really have no plans on looking back at my posts and re-asses so i see no need to do the same either, from my PoV I'm already voting scum, and there's no need for me to convince you that you are scum.I bloom in spring?
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In post 535, BlankFace wrote:Sakura I was town reading you so much 12 hours ago. What happened?
You tell me. I haven't done anything different, so something must have changed in your perception of my play.
In post 535, BlankFace wrote:Pie is literally the only one voting NotScience who gave any indication as to why.
And i'm probably never going to say why i think he's scum either way. It doesn't change anything for me because when I used to give reasons, people always ignored them, so I decided to not even bother. The worst of it all came when people used my arguments to convince me that the person was town, when i actually was correct to begin with.I bloom in spring?
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In post 549, notscience wrote:because after I flip town you two should both be hung
This is a really weird approach, just like i scumread Gaiden for half of Lost Paradise while he was actually town, he didn't even see it as a reason to scumread me because he knows even the most accurate on reading him can't keep that 100%.
And suppose you flip town and pie's town, you just killed 3 townies because you refused to see anything else, great fucking job.
There no way you're town with this mindset.I bloom in spring?
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Oh wow, you're not 100% confident? Wow you fooled me completely, I thought for a second there that you were so confident you kept telling ppl left and right that we're scum without moving a finger to push any wagon onto us yourself. Yeah, that totally makes sense.I bloom in spring?
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I don't really care if anyone joins my wagon, if anything i've learned is that ppl never join my wagons when i'm right anyway.
Thing is, you first accused me of white knighting you, yet i wasn't doing that, back then when I still townread you, then after i switch my vote to you and show you that i wasn't even townreading you yet on that post against BBT, you switch stories to "Sakura wouldn't misread me", So which one is it.I bloom in spring?
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In post 564, notscience wrote:where did all this fire and passion come from?
There's fire and passion coming from you atm? In which fairy land?I bloom in spring?
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You know what.
At this point, i don't really care anymore.
You trying to push BoP on me, when you dont even want to take on BoP yourself is hilarious.
I'm done trying to reason with you "Town notty wouldnt do this" "Scum notty would do this", all of this self-awareness already throws out those possibilities out of the window.
PEdit: Yeah back when i was voting pie, and telling Cho that you were town, yeah, totally, I can't honestly believe you even believe that yourself.I bloom in spring?
Please be nice to me.-
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Sakura Hana She/HerSurvivorShe/Her
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Yes, you're right i do care.
But your reasoning for scumreading me is shit.
Heck your reasoning for scumreading me is so shit.
That i'm willing to put our friendship on the line for this read.
If you're town this game, I promise i will never, talk to you, ever again. For pushign this shitty BoP as a ways to defend yourself from people that actually know how to read you.
This is the last straw.
I'm not moving my vote again ever.I bloom in spring?
Please be nice to me.-
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Sakura Hana She/HerSurvivorShe/Her
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Why would you even care, you're scum anyways.
Like I can't really wrap my head around why town you would pursue BoP as a reason to scumread me, considering both in Corpse Party and Lost Paradise i was never certain of my Gaiden reads who im supposed to be able to read better than anyone else.
The fact that you keep pushing me scumreading you as a reason to scumreading me is beyond the most BS i've ever seen, and if that's your town game, then i certainly don't want to have any more of it, ever again. Because I refuse to believe town notty would hurt me so.I bloom in spring?
Please be nice to me.-
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Sakura Hana She/HerSurvivorShe/Her
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I would think it'd be their off game.
And i'd be sad...
Just like in Hope+1 when i ragequit.
This time's different tho.
You're scum.
And if you want to pursue this any further i want you to be on my mislynch wagon.
I want you to drench your hands with my townie blood.
I want to burn that image into your mind.
So you never try that strategy as scum ever again.I bloom in spring?
Please be nice to me.-
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