Mini 1709: Radjarok: Game over!

[Salamence20]

Yeah if I had a PM of my role I would

[Salamence20]

Ok, Im town. Discuss?

[Salamence20]

@wanderer: That's the scummiest of VG's posts, but I feel that what makes him really scummy is the fact that he basically quit the moment pressure was applied.

@SamX: That huge wall of pros and cons, those are my reasons.

I feel ready to switch to a gob lynch now since Wanderer is generating content and nobody seems willing to push on him. He's still my strongest scumread, however, and unless something changes I will probably vote him again tomorrow.

@gob: I feel that vijay is vanilla town.

has anyone considered that the Salamence slot might be a jester?

His is why I hate playing fucking minis.
Ldumb stupid shit like that.

Am I a fucking Jester? For fuck sake there cant be jesters in this game, fuck.

[Salamence20]

Claiming town as soon as he's put into the game? Mmm, that's raising my eyebrows...

If I had a scum PM I would have said Im scum.

Town doesnt lie.

[Salamence20]

@stoz: Can you comment on what I said about Gob?

I think your best point by far is that gob leaves himself openings to change his reads.

Ok, Im town. Discuss?

Salamence20, what was your number one reason for opening with that claim?

I think lynching Dessew gives far more information than lynching gob. Dessew that flipped scum would have motivation to defend both a town gob and a scum gob, but a Dessew that flipped town would not implicate gob at all. A flip on gob tells us much less about Dessew.

I still think VeeGee was scummy, and Wanderer's replace-in guns blazing reminds me so much of BlueBloodedToffee replacing in as scum my last game.

Because Im not going to be able to read this until tomorrow and why not.

Everyone needs to know: Im town

[Salamence20]

There better be a good fucking reason Vijay isn't dead yet people.

Im fucking serious.

[Salamence20]

@Salamence20 why should we lynch Vijay? You are the other replace in and have provided much less content than Wanderer.

And I find it incredible that you are calling for a Vijay lynch when your vote is still on yourself!!

We should lynch me.

No Im still working on catching up but my vote is most likely going on Vijay and I would love to hear opinions.

Im not joining any other wagons today besides accountant who is Vijay's buddy.

[Salamence20]

Im planing on moving it. Why is it such an issue.

Its not like Im wagoned or anything

[Salamence20]

Thats what I was hoping for.

You have no idea how disappointed i was that Im town

[Salamence20]

Damn I hate that post above^

Also theres alot of bitching that Im not unvoting myself but not enough talk of a Vijay wagon for or against.

[Salamence20]

Im just shocked during my reading that no one else voted Vijay when it was clearly scumtelling early on in the game.

Another thing Ive noticed is this game is made up of more than 55% of newbs, so I hope Vijay is scum so I get nightkilled.

[Salamence20]

I need to get my notes organized first.

I know we are close to deadline, but know Im not voting wander and only support Accountant lynch

[Salamence20]

Vijay and Accountant are scum together and it is the saddest attempt of separation between the two ever.

The accountant lynch happens today.

VOTE: Accountant

Spoiler: Notes up to Page 10

Notes:

Scum points in RVS go to Accountant for making 2 RVS posts in the span of 10 posts. Congrats! Textcat too. And Vijay later on... for fuck sake, how many pages are going to be full of shit?
Everyone else seems null to me besides Dessew who is probably town based on his RVS post.

Alright fuck Im halfway down page two and you fuckers are lucky I wasn't here because it seems no one is working to get out of RVS right now and its pissing me off.

#38 and #39 Accountant and Vijay both vote HC for his off-game references to another game. I hate them both.

Page 3, for fuck sake. This was an out of game inside joke RVS and you people are wagoning HC for it? comeon people.

#55 Hopkirk is my first offical townread for doing something in this fucking game, and votes Trivium which isnt a bad vote because hes not doing anything to move town out of RVS (he asked a question that does absolutely nothing towards the gamestate).

#58 and #59 Vijay is a good scum vote too (Everyone on HC is probably a good lynch choice)

#63 I don't like this. Lurking is not a tell but they should be removed in some cases. Your question Trivium doesn't do anything to move the gamestate.

Page 4, idk why there aren't any Vijay votes when people are talking about him being potential scum. Also for someone who claims to be active, I don't see much from Trivium.

#96 Klingon can be town for voting obvscum today.

(It was at this point I realized I am in the Trivium slot. Fuck me, still doesn't change my opinions, it was a shitty move and fortunatly there are the people who wagoned HC first that are more scummier than me)

#109 I'll town read gob for that comment. I don't think unless the scumteam is all noobs, that gob would make an SK comment like that as scum.

#129 SamX is probably town for this

#135 Accountant dies the second Vijay flips scum. Remember that.

Also (#142) Vijay is a dick, which is probably another reason I think he is scum.

#169, see this is what I am talking about. Its right around here that people are scumreading Vijay and yet no one votes him. This is why Im scumreading this, its a good possibility his buddys are trying to separate.

#178, the votecount has Klingon on Bijay, shes town.

#185, DING DING DING Vijay answers Accountant's questions. This is the laziest scumpair Ive ever seen.

#203, Accountants scumreads dont include Vijay. I WONDER FUCKING WHY?

Page 9: Fitz is town this game.

Pretty much:

Town: Dessew, Fitz, Klingon, Sam, Gob
Scum: Accountant, Vijay

[Salamence20]

Also, this game fucking sucks.

More accountant votes.

[Salamence20]

Lets go guys

[Salamence20]

GUYS

[Salamence20]

We don't have the time to form a Vijay wagon.

Im settling for Accountant because I think they are scum together and there is a wagon on her already

[Salamence20]

There needs to be more talking?

[Salamence20]

A look at Gob's ISO:

#24 and #30 pissed me off, and I would have given him a slight scumread for making 2 RVS votes right of the bat, which I didn't like.

#34 said he will be active and he is, that isnt a scumtell.

#66 as I said before, is a towntell. I don't think scum would publically bring up SK paranoia in the public thread.

#80 and #82 could be separation between Vijay and Gob but I doubt both scum (Accountant and Gob) would both bring this up without voting. It could be worth a look later I guess.

#107 I would argue is town motivated. Would scum really be so confident in their reads this early? Maybe if he was more expierenced I would be uncertain but since he was from 2-3 months ago, I think its a noobtown call.

(He later on is playing off the confidence of the last game, where his reads were perfect I guess.)

#153 Gob is trying to move the game, which is an improvement from his early 2 votes.

Later on, his posts are a mix of reads and his meta from another site. #234 reads as toen for his caution (Its dumb as Veegee was nowhere near lynch, but regardless seemingly town).

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Now Fitz, my turn to ask you a question:

Will you vote accountant?

[Salamence20]

Sorry dude, Im stubborn and I won't be chasing Gob today.

[Salamence20]

L-2

[Salamence20]

Your discredit is noted

[Salamence20]

Oh cool.

¡claim!

[Salamence20]

Why am I suddenly town?

[Salamence20]

Also, VT.

Hammerz away!

[Salamence20]

Also, VT.

Hammerz away!

Why am I suddenly town?

[Salamence20]

Regardless i dont think she will flip town.

Either way, Vijay should be scum. There is scum on the people who banwagoned HC early in RVS

[Salamence20]

Youre an asshole.

[Salamence20]

Also that thought process WILL get you destroyed by mafia one day

[Salamence20]

Ive pretended to be stupid and carried the scumteam on my back before.

Stupid isnt a scumtell

[Salamence20]

Tivium and Constantine are poor players though

[Salamence20]

Lets talk alittle:

1. are you an accountant in real life? That was the easiest class Ive ever taken.
2. Why is it that Vijay, who was thought suspisious by you and Gob, and others, didnt get a vote?
3. Why did you distance yourself from Vijay?

[Salamence20]

What about my play is stupid?

[Salamence20]

Its not tunneling its scumreading.

You are trying to discredit me by calling me a VI.

Sorry to tell you Im not. You are Vijay have been linked together more than once so it makes sense that you both are probably piared given the amount of noobs in this game.

Vijay hsnt done anything town and idk why people were voting HC for some RVS drama.

[Salamence20]

What is wrong with voting someone in RVS? I mean, the fact that it's RVS should be a pretty big tipoff.

Do you have any scumreads other than vijay and me? Or, to put it another way: if both vijay and me revealed as innocent child right now, who would you vote?

You guys serious voted HC for some personal beef with Hopkirk as if it was a serious issue towards this game. Thats why he got wagoned. It was stupid and I doubt it was town motivated.

If that was the case I would vote Wanderer and do more reading I guess, but I doubt both of you are flipping town.

[Salamence20]

That is not how I read the HC Hopkirk interaction at all. HC implied that he voted for Hopkirk for some old beef, but Hopkirk claimed to not know HC at all. HC refused to explain. That's why I voted for him.
UNVOTE: Acct I'm going to sleep on this.

Would the explanation affect the gamestate? Then it doesnt matter.

Thats why the wagon was shit. It was a nulltell and people treated his witholding as a scumtell. Its mislynch bait.

Bandwagons generate reads. I don't see what was the harm in wagoning Haschel as it dissipated fairly quickly. Additionally, Haschel would probably not have been lynched based on that flimsy reasoning alone, so why would scum try to push on him then? Personally, I just found Haschel's evasiveness about his beef with Hopkirk(especially given Hopkirk's response to Haschel's vote, saying he didn't know what it was about) sorta eyebrow-raising, and in the RVS that's a perfectly valid reason to vote someone.

Salamence, what are your thoughts on Wanderer?

The fact he was wagoned for that reason to start off with was the first problem.

I have no issue with Veegee/Wanderer either way. I think Wanderers posting is townish and I didnt see much wi Veegee. It also helps that hes the cw to your wagon

[Salamence20]

Accountant are you a new mafia player?

[Salamence20]

Im almost falling for this AtE here.

[Salamence20]

Hi guys.

[Salamence20]

Who cares, we have 6 hours. Lets just do it and hope for the best.

Im voting Vijay tomorrow regardless. I do think Accountant is trying to AtE out of her lynch.

[Salamence20]

We can push them tomorrow

[Salamence20]

If so, its on me.

[Salamence20]

Well, given that its my fault for pushing it, if you are town Im sorry.

[Salamence20]

That's the plan, miss Number.

[Salamence20]

The moment you realize you are fucked.

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Vijay

[Salamence20]

Do it without me

[Salamence20]

Anyone notice how Vijay hasnt said anything when I came in?

[Salamence20]

Hi guys.

If so, its on me.

VOTE: salamence

This.
Is.

The LOLZIEST OMGUS I have EVER seen.

[Salamence20]

In fact if thats what hes going with, then Ill gladly 1v1 him

[Salamence20]

So everyone is going to ignore Vijay's lurking and wringing up a townie?

[Salamence20]

I will again tell the town that Vijay isn't doing anything since being tunneled by me.

[Salamence20]

Not_Mafia is mafia.

This time Im gonna get it right.

[Salamence20]

Not_Mafia replaces vijay2vasandani. At least it'll be easier to write! Thank you!

VOTE: gob

DAY 2, VOTECOUNT 3

gob(4)

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havingfitz, Klingoncelt, Hopkirk, texcat

Wanderer-nl(2)

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stoz, gob

Not_Mafia(1)

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Salamence20

Salamence20(1)

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Not_Mafia

Hopkirk(1)

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Dessew

Not Voting(2)

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SamX, Wanderer-nl

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch! Deadline is on September 22nd at 09:00 PM(GMT+1) or in (expired on 2015-09-22 21:00:00).

Mod Notes:
Salamence20 is on V/LA until Sunday, September 20

This is really stupid

[Salamence20]

NM has the scummiest town game of anyone not named Salamence20.

As such, I will be voting Vijay based on Vijay not NM

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Gob

Inb4 fake fakeclaim

[Salamence20]

I am a big fan of outting the cop as mafia though

[Salamence20]

If Gob flips mafia Im site-Flaking

[Salamence20]

Apparently Im too retarded for mafia.

[Salamence20]

So why the hammer, Sala? If you think he's town and really the cop???

Regardless of Vijay/Gob, the cop dies tonight or today depending on whos lying. I hope NM is scum.

If Gob flips mafia Im site-Flaking

Do you mean if he flips town?

If he flips town it means I had nothing to do with it as it confirms Vijay as scum.

He he flips scum I cant read worth shit

[Salamence20]

NM is counterclaiming cop

[Salamence20]

Im done with mafia

[Salamence20]

ummm yeah.

One of Gob/NM is confirmed scum because NM is counterclaiming.

Soooo yeah. Town wins regardless.

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Textcat

Mafia wanna be dumb, so be it.

NM plz confirm me as town

[Salamence20]

Also last mafia is Fitz im sure

[Salamence20]

I miss Titus' original avi

[Salamence20]

Gob claimed cop, NM counterclaimed.

[Salamence20]

Fitz and textcat.

[Salamence20]

Wait wtf

[Salamence20]

I am here.

I am Cop.

Do not lynch i am catching up tonight!

No you aren't

Someone please hammer

He's scum, hammer

Either NM is towncrediting to lylo or hes a PR.

[Salamence20]

NM's confidence in Gob flipping scum either means hes Counterclaiming or he knew he was flipping scum because he is his buddy.

Which one you want, textcat?

[Salamence20]

Textcat was called mafia by NM and NM isnt dead. Infact its odd that Nm isnt voting text at this point.

So mafia is really dumb or NM is mafia bussing.

[Salamence20]

Okay, not sure why it took me so long to realise ths considering I did it myself in one of my set-ups, texcat is Mafia Doctor

VOTE: texcat

Mafia doc vs 1-shot vig?

[Salamence20]

Oh wait gunsmith!

Never mind. Gg

[Salamence20]

Idk why we havent.

That omgus is the worse.

[Salamence20]

NM can you teach me to stop scumreading you?

[Salamence20]

Time for Texcat to die

[Salamence20]

NM can you teach me to stop scumreading you?

[Salamence20]

Gunsmith checks if his target has guns.

Mafia has guns, but a mafia doctor does not have a gun.

So think of it as a GF.

[Salamence20]

He doesnt have to.

He counterclaimed scum.

Thus confirmed town

[Salamence20]

If Textcat flips town NM is confirmed mafia
If Textcat flips scum NM is confirmed town.

Mafia is stupid for not killing confirmed town.

Fucking morons

[Salamence20]

Its not lylo.

I want Fitz or possibly NM.

NM?

[Salamence20]

We CAN NOT afford to leave Fitz, and NM alive for lylo.

The fact that NM isnt dead really irks me and I dont want him in lylo.

[Salamence20]

Titus, mafia is dead.

I want VCA

[Salamence20]

Yeah idk

[Salamence20]

Titus, how do you feel about letting the GS live another day?

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Stoz

Sheeping because why not.