Mini 1737: Bringer Mafia [Mafia Win]

[Frozen Angel]

/confirm

[Frozen Angel]

He might be actually the godfather :/

VOTE: PatientZer0

[Frozen Angel]

I think everyone but BulletNLynchproof and Keyser Söze.

We never played together... :/

And keep note, I haven't done any scum hunting. So saying that I have started is where you went wrong.
I did however, find a town.

Well, town must scum haunt.

As a new comer in this thread its my fourth game and my only experiences from the people in thread are about some who are playing with me in some ongoin games. so I can't really be useful in the beginning and the only thing I can say is this : RadiantCowbells is so silent. and Slandaar and Blocky didn't even confirmed the game ....

about whole Vedith / BulletNLynchproof's case , I feel I can sense a town/town argument so far.

Accountant view about town/mafia participating in game came intersting to me ...

Both scum and town have incentive to throw shit around. Town because it moves the game out of RVS and can force the quiet players out of their shell, scum because they want to setup grounds for a mislynch later or control the momentum of the game.

PEdit: BulletNLynchproof's post gave me an immediate reaction of "this post is town".

as I can see this :

I can't think of a good reason for a townie not to RVS but I can think of a good reason for scum to do so.

It sounds to have some kind of paradox?

PS : I'm sorry for my English , As I'm not one ...

[Frozen Angel]

I can be tough
I can be strong
But with you, it's not like that at all
There's a girl
Who gives a s**t
Behind this wall
You've just walked through it
And I remember, all those crazy things you said
You left them riding through my head
You're always there, you're everywhere
But right now I wish you were here
All those crazy things we did
Didn't think about it, just went with it
You're always there, you're everywhere
But right now I wish you were here
Damn, Damn, Damn
What I'd do to have you
Here, here, here
I wish you were here
Damn, Damn, Damn
What I'd do to have you
Near, near, near
I wish you were here
I love the way you are
It's who I am, don't have to try hard
We always say, say like it is
And the truth is that I really miss
All those crazy things you said
You left them riding through my head
You're always there, you're everywhere
But right now I wish you were here
All those crazy things we did
Didn't think about it, just went with it
You're always there, you're everywhere
But right now I wish you were here
Damn, Damn, Damn
What I'd do to have you
Here, here, here
I wish you were here
Damn, Damn, Damn
What I'd do to have you
Near, near, near
I wish you were here
No, I don't wanna let go
I just wanna let you to know
That I never wanna let go
(Let go let go let go let go)
No, I don't wanna let go
I just wanna let you to know
That I never wanna let go
(Let go let go let go let go let go let go let go)
Damn, Damn, Damn
What I'd do to have you
Here, here, here
I wish you were here
(I wish you were)
Damn, Damn, Damn
What I'd do to have you
Near, near, near
I wish you were here
Damn, Damn, Damn
What I'd do to have you
Here, here, here
I wish you were here
Damn, Damn, Damn
What I'd do to have you
Near, near, near
I wish you were here

Wish you were here , Goodbye Lullaby , Singer : Avril Romana Lavigode




Don't mess with singers please :/

[Frozen Angel]

Alright this is literally confirmed scum.

VOTE: Fraggernaut

"Literally Confirmed Scum"



You really don't believe that. You can't be that bad.

Believe me he is THAT BAD and CRAZY with my limited knowledge I have about her so far in this two ongoing game we're playing together. But he never believed himself :/

and I must add his rocky approach proved worthy before.

[Frozen Angel]

him*

[Frozen Angel]

Hey , Don't mess with your Ice queen :/ You tiny little mortals ...

[Frozen Angel]

Well Rc's way of play makes scum to act so defensive and get out of their shell. As her attack of you Fraggernaut , I'm going to think your a town player becuase the way you answered to her arrogance. I don't get scum vibes from him nor you ...

We might wait and see how her arrogance can be helpful.

[Frozen Angel]

If you weren't defensive against RC, You are defensive right now.

I can't accept this as a town move , and the way you soft claimed ..........

VOTE: Fraggernaut he is in L2 I guess

Lets see how will you react under more pressure ...

[Frozen Angel]

Well , I was in hurry last time I posted , now I'm summarizing my thoughts :

RC is so arrogant , wild and crazy but its helpful because we can see how people can react under his pressure . the way you answered to his spam attack , is considerable : YOU TOOK IT SERIOUSLY.

In past 4 pages the only thing I can see is you acting defensive , You quit scum hunting and accused your voters in general. Well yes I'm agreed one of your voters is probably scum even if your scum ... It's a pretty obvious move form your teammates to join your lynch if your going down. In this scenario I'm going to suspect All Alone if you flip mafia.

There is some kind of soft claims in your posts... It's not a town PR way to gain trust. SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE.

you stated RC is misreading you , 1 time , 2 time , .... 10 times?! If your not scum instead of this you can provide a solid defense why the person who is leading your wagon (Accountant) is wrong or scummy ...

I already mentioned why I voted you : To put you under pressure. its a very common approach in day 1 to gain intell. BUT YOU TOOK IT SERIOUSLY again and got defensive as hell! Now I changed my mind about you. I won't take back my vote , not if I find something scummier or a solid answer from you ...

[Frozen Angel]

I mean I won't change my vote till someone act more scummier or I see a solid considerable answer from you....


English Grammar Mistake!

[Frozen Angel]

@Keyser I don't know, nor believe her alignment ... My point was this : I already saw her way of spam attack against someone and even hammering people so early in day 1 from her which was proven useful , because of that I won't suspect her because of this "off-topic" wall-posts ...

Her way of attack may cause people to defend themselves .

Defending yourself is completely right. playing defensive is what I call scummy. He just says how RC is playing bad and how invalid are RC's posts are. He calls all his voters scummy and clearly soft role claiming.

If he had nothing to fear about what is this afraid tone coming from?

Also it's pretty bad play for Frozen to put me at L2 without stating intent cause scum can quick hammer a mislynch right here. So always look at Frozen as well.

@Fraggernaut I want to see why you think scum will hammer you so soon this early game? I'm sure I cleared I just want to see your reaction in L2

[Frozen Angel]

He in third paragraph refers to Fraggernaut

[Frozen Angel]

@Keyser I already answered it in post 266 if you got sniped ...

@BlockMan what makes no sense? My point of view? :/ or the meta info about Radiant? you might start clearing this fog around you first before start no detail accusing

And why the exact number of 2 scum in that wagon? Its already been mentioned by fragger also (2 scums) ...

[Frozen Angel]

I already answered about my view about him. and I do think his craziness in day 1 is helpful and it makes sense to me because it will take out scums from their shells.

and I'm not buddying , I'm just not suspicious about him at this point because I think its just his playstyle to rush attacks in early day 1 ...

[Frozen Angel]

What do you expect me to answer when you say "That made no sense". It was my feeling and my observations on him, nothing less , nothing more . How can I reason about it?

I do have a feeling about vedith being scum ( sense of lurking ) and you are town (because I saw when you react when your mafia in the other game) . But how can I talk about my feelings?! I observed something and I posted what I felt about it. Just keep it there : How I feel about her... Can you prove this to me that he is scum , or your statement about him is just another feelings as well?

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen kind of null here with a pretty substantial slight scum lean. They placed me into L2 without stating intent which was very bad in my opinion. Said I was being "defensive" & used that as a excuse to put a vote on me placing me at L2 without stating intent. Frozen's #266 was decent for the most part. I can understand putting pressure on someone under votes; not in the way they put me at L2 though.

What is this Fraggernaut?!

I literally have no idea what you just said 3 times repeatedly : they placed you in L2 (no I put you there alone) which is really bad for you (why?!!!if your town being under pressure and getting out of there make more people trust you, and your not afraid of it) and its bad in your opinion (your afraid of something? Is it a kind of confess?)

I said you're being defensive and I declared I'm putting you in L2 to put you under pressure. (without saying intent ...!)?!

My post 266 was decent for the most part : so your accept you played defensive and your afraid of something ? and You didn't even answer the question I asked you there.

What was different about the way I put you in pressure? Your kind of black wooly bear I must be afraid of?

[Frozen Angel]

Well! Lets go wrod by word : "and I do think his craziness in day 1 is helpful and it makes sense to me because it will take out scums from their shells"

take out scums ... I never said he is a town member. if he is scum he already is out of his shell :/

Why are we fighting over something we're both agreed on?! I'm just saying you cant judge him so soon because of his playstyle , that's all! I never said less and I certainly never said more.

In other words I'm null on him so far as you all must be , in my opinion ...

[Frozen Angel]

Another con of quick lynching : make a later lynch will bring us more information because scums will be forced to talk , and more they talk more chance for making mistakes ...

[Frozen Angel]

*Palm Face*

Just bring me something before my vote about you suspecting me ...

"one of my scum leans" heh

[Frozen Angel]

"and You didn't even answer the question I asked you there"

[Frozen Angel]

It was pretty bad when you didn't state intent. You put me at L2 & then after the fact said something along the lines of "Oh that's L2" like it was a afterthought.

people you judge about this please ...

If you weren't defensive against RC, You are defensive right now.

I can't accept this as a town move , and the way you soft claimed ..........

VOTE: Fraggernaut he is in L2 I guess

Lets see how will you react under more pressure ...

[Frozen Angel]

It was pretty bad when you didn't state intent. You put me at L2 & then after the fact said something along the lines of "Oh that's L2" like it was a afterthought.

people you judge about this please ...

If you weren't defensive against RC, You are defensive right now.

I can't accept this as a town move , and the way you soft claimed ..........

VOTE: Fraggernaut he is in L2 I guess

Lets see how will you react under more pressure ...

Which is after the fact. Like L2 wasn't as important as it should be. You casually just put something at L2 after the fact.

two things!

1- being in L2 is not such a big deal! specially in day 1 and specially when people actually say they are testing you! Thats where all your defensiveness come from! the fact your afraid of getting hammered in day 1 means you really have something to hide.

2 - Second I always vote like this VOTE X he is in Ly
Can't get your point about mentioning its not big deal. If it was a useless fact in my mind I couldn't state it at all!

[Frozen Angel]

Yeah that really makes no sense

Please use quotes and more details or you seems like a crazy person ...

Its still bad play to put someone at L2 after the fact. So you think "something to hide" is only scum? I've breadcrumbed quite a bit already. Unfortunate you still haven't picked it up.

"something to hide" is not only scummy. That's why we need to test you by putting you in L2 / or even L1 ...

and I can't really get what you mean by after the fact?!!

[Frozen Angel]

1- being in L2 is not such a big deal! specially in day 1 and specially when people actually say they are testing you! Thats where all your defensiveness come from! the fact your afraid of getting hammered in day 1 means you really have something to hide.

I don't agree with this. I know for a fact whether he is town or mafia he would defend himself to not get lynched Day 1, it is only natural.

I refer you to my 266 post

[Frozen Angel]

Well its over midnight here and I really need to sleep. will catch up with you guys tomorrow

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen out to 8/10 on my scum-o-meter
Fragger is lowest, 3/10
Along with Keyser 3/10

I'll be happy If you share more details about your scumm-o-metter with us

[Frozen Angel]

Well I'm not a fan of the quick lynches either. as I said before we need to use the time we have to make discussions and let the scum to make mistakes . as for sample we have nothing about slandaar.

@Fraggernaut You YOURSELF said you have doubts about AA and Accountant and your scumreading them . right?! whats the difference between then and now ?

@Bullet what do you think about Blocky and TheFuzzylogic99 ?

[Frozen Angel]

/Spam
what you guys think about my new avatar? I made it myself yesterday. EndSpam and sorry /

[Frozen Angel]

@vedith you caught up yet? :/

@TheFuzzylogic99 why you think you can't be helpful in day 1? as a town member you should try to make new discussions , find the weak points , put some pressure and hunt the scums. Your not a town member then?

[Frozen Angel]

my current town/scum reads : top to down - town to scum

Keyser Söze

His posts make me smile He is a good observer and obviously scumhunting. has nothing on him right now

PatientZer0

hmm. He has some valid points about the game. I request him to clarify his stance.

Accountant

She is a town bloody murderer in my opinion. These kinds of offensive play in day 1 brings information. untill I see a really scummy mistake from her, You can't convince me she is scum becuase of her offensive playstyle.

BulletNLynchproof

well he had his downs and ups. His vote against Frag seems genuine but his attack against AA seems a bit harash. Don't know what should I think about him so far.

RadiantCowbells

well she is just like Accountant, But extremely emotional instead of rational. As i mentioned before I'll stay null at her unless I find something out of boundries and her play style is not suspicious in my opinion.

Vedith

well his recent posts seems like some kind of lurking. I'm waiting for a stance from him.

Errantparabola

NULL

All Alone

He jumped on Frag's wagon so fast after Bullets join without mentioning a valid reason. + got ridiculously defensive against Bullet post. that in mind I ill check her ISO after this post again.

TheFuzzylogic99

Didn't contributed so much to the game. Is he busy in real life? or just wait us to make a lynch and make his work easy as a scum? I'm waiting for his response to Keyser's vote.

Slandaar

the only thing you gave us is a vote and an example about a fire camp. You need to be more active.

Fraggernaut

I already mentioned why I hold my vote against her a lot . his responses has no logic / no value in my opinion. Even a paranoid town won't panic like that. as Keyser's view. I think he is just hurting himself by playing such defensive and to be a paranoid defender.

BlockyMan

Well blocky hasn't provided anything useful so far. he keeps telling that my posts are nonsense (which makes me pretty angry as a human being :/ ) plus he defends Frag in a very odd way. his scum-o-meter post makes me angry. it seems he desperately try to broadcast Frag as a town as much as keyser is known as a town for everyone else. and I can't see why he thinks I'm 8/10 scummy ...

[Frozen Angel]

Well I'm going to be busy today (its morning here) I can't post till night. and I am really trying to engage with the game. why shouldn't I?

And I couldn't read you base of nothing. That's why I hadn't any +/- points about you then.

[Frozen Angel]

And I don't have time to comment about Acc's post right now.

[Frozen Angel]

well I found some escape time and here is what I wanted to say

(Page 15)

@All Alone:
Why is this person

hmm. He has some valid points about the game. I request him to clarify his stance.

more town than this person

She is a town bloody murderer in my opinion. These kinds of offensive play in day 1 brings information. until I see a really scummy mistake from her, You can't convince me she is scum because of her offensive play style.

A person with "some valid points" and an apparently unclear stance is more town than someone who you can't be convinced is scum?

First I'm Frozen Angel, Not all alone.

The point made you seem less town in my opinion is your insisting to quick lynch someone so early in day 1. as I myself put him in L2 I already stated that killing him so fast is just scummy! Putting scum under pressure is one thing assuming they are really scum with limited clues is another.
Basically I have nothing on Patiantzero more townish than you because there aren't so much things about her so far.

but his attack against AA seems a bit harash

How so? I thought he brought up valid points. I'm sort of null on All Alone at the moment, but I don't think that his attack seemed reachy, mislynchy or any of the things you would usually associate with a scum attack on town.

well! He was on the fragger wagon himself. A simple move for scum is attacking each other in day 1 . this can be useful for them in next days to say :"Hey ! look! he was my enemy so we weren't together!" well its just a gutfeeling so i won't try to open that for you (at least not now that we have nothing on them). plus! The way he is judging her by meta is just not right. I can't follow him.

well she is just like Accountant, But extremely emotional instead of rational. As i mentioned before I'll stay null at her unless I find something out of boundaries and her play style is not suspicious in my opinion.

Off topic but this is the second male player you have labeled as female so far in your reads list. Keep in mind that both me and RC are male, even if we have female avatars.

LOL. first under your avatar there is something suggest you are a "SHE". second I find this whole gender pronouns so confusing (as I used his and her for frag in same sentence in that same post ) and third about RC. its just about a whole fake boobs conversation we had in another game :/

anyway i'm sorry if I missed any gender pronoun because we don't have them in our language

[Frozen Angel]

The scum-o-meter of blocky is just getting more intersting. The way he didn't mention 1/3 of the players in his list need to be mentioned. his comments were like "Go to hell scum" and "Down with you!" or "I do trust Frag and keyser and don't trust anyone else" :/

[Frozen Angel]

Could you explain Angel? And is there anything else about All Alone other than meta that justifies him as scum?

I can indeed.

I can't think of a good reason for a townie not to RVS but I can think of a good reason for scum to do so.

It sounds to have some kind of paradox?

PS : I'm sorry for my English , As I'm not one ...

I found this to be very good and observant.

Regarding All Alone: No.

I think I had very more interesting observations so far (at least in my opinion) why you picked the first one?! what do you think about it? you think Accountant is scum?!

[Frozen Angel]

There is something wrong about the votes

MOD why Accountant has two votes?!!!

Fixed

[Frozen Angel]

Finally back home , tired as ........

well 3 pages?! Holy mother of ....

#399 is so damn right. AA got a + point from me because of that post.

VOTE: PatientZer0

There's no way this is town right now.

well , He was just asking questions about Frag. anyone who is asking questions are not trying to destroy a wagon. As I said before can't judge about this because the lack of information about Patient0 right now.

I never should have sent you that snapchat RC

! Just LOL

Why would I need to try to scare my other townies? Your wagon is weak & falling apart regardless of how hard you're trying to bury me.

You are continuing your thing. well the fact keyser said its just hurting yourself is true. YOUR OTHER TOWNIES ?!
and yes you are really trying to force people believe you have something hidden there , which I already mentioned it , It's just scummy ...

Also I'm responding as I read on my phone. Driving home

its just a game. please don't kill yourself in real world for that. and never use phone EVER EVER AGAIN while driving. (its a kind of thrama)

Scum doesn't care what the exact role of the PR is. If they know you are a PR, they will off you. And they already know you are a PR beccause you keep fucking softclaiming. So scum!AA has no reason to role fish like this.

I mean, hard claims are usually what happens when a PR gets pushed to L-1, right?

why I think you think Frag is a PR and you want him so dead after this post?

I scumread him D1/D2 in the game with Titus's god tier throw but then he became obvious town D3.

I figure if Slandy's town it will become obvious at some point and I can lynch him later if that doesn't happen.

I'm not about to start pushing someone who is actually useful as town because they're lurking D1.

Well its just oposite of your approch so far. Is'nt it RC? what is different about Slandy from Frag and Patient ?

@keyser post #451 is just amazing. Keep up the good work. That might clear every ones mind about the game. I just ask people to read the ISO themselves , and check the old posts themselves. and trust no one. If you just sit there you can't win.

It's weird because I'm already obvious town.

after all the burden we had about Frag's softclaim . Were where you sir?!!!

[Frozen Angel]

@Slandaar

He didn't claim to his Role. he just brought the idea of "being a PR player" up. And he wasn't under pressure when he started so.

@keyser

Frozen Angel finally concedes that RadiantCowbells playstyle should be read as "null": i.e we do not know if it is being helpful or not yet (post 301).

As i said before , I never said less / never said more . He is still nullish in my view.

Frozen Angel asking questions that don't need to be asked. Naughty. (post 344).

why?! Vedith is lurking in my view and TheFuzzylogic99's view about day 1 sucks. why shouldn't I ask them to try harder?

[Frozen Angel]

wow in my post i meant VOTE: Unvoted Bullet

?! :/ use UNVOTE: tags

[Frozen Angel]

NO sure not! Why aren't you quoting my whole sentence?!! I was trying to make a point there for him!

@TheFuzzylogic99 why you think you can't be helpful in day 1? as a town member you should try to make new discussions , find the weak points , put some pressure and hunt the scums. Your not a town member then?

:/

[Frozen Angel]

Well Now that I'm looking more at you keyser we have nothing about you. the only thing we have is how you think we think about the game :/

I request a post wall from you. Can you please show us what do you think about each person individually?

[Frozen Angel]

He didn't claim to his Role. he just brought the idea of "being a PR player" up. And he wasn't under pressure when he started so.

I mean he has locked himself into claiming a PR which he can somehow allude to in his ISO. That is a claim. I can understand someone disagreeing but it doesn't really matter. For the purposes of this; if he is a town PR then why wouldn't he claim PR instead of his full role? There can be benefits to the former.

I do disagree with the whole 'he wasn't under pressure'. You may not have considered it enough but he

was

under pressure. What exactly would you call pressure if that isn't?

He started his weird way of calling himself town in post 51

[Frozen Angel]

Well let me chime in...

Town;
Vedith
RC
Accountant
Errant
All Alone
Keyser
Frozen Angel (ish)

That's half way there!

Scum
???

I'll wait until day 2 to decide.

Can't you chime in with more details?! :/ its just your gut feeling or you have reasons for your choices. Like I can't really get a town read on Errant.

/Spam Please don't use the ish thing after me. Call me null or a bit townie but I hate that thing.... :/ ENDSPAM/

[Frozen Angel]

Well

I was thinking about Frag all the day. He started to soft role claim so early ... even earlier than the time he started being accused of anything. He acted defensive and clearly not logical. As keyser said : only hurting himself

Then I tried to put myself in his position to see why he should react the way he did.

As an offensive player who will tell whatever he thinks right if he has a PR he wouldn't ever ever ever claim to his alignments. a paranoid player like him won't publish that kind of info if has something important to use in the nigh. As a scum player he just stop pushing so hard whenever he wanted and start a new topic even when he was in that L2 , He don't need to be verified as a pro town ! that might just get him killed by SK if he is mafia or get him killed by mafia if he is SK (I'm not sure. there can be SK in the game, am I right?)

Well, the only thing remains here is a vanilla townie. He wants to show us how wrong we are about lynching him in a very defensive way. He uses claims to put this idea inside our head that he might be a PR. (for that he don't need to be scum)

Well , after thinking about these possibilities I have so many doubts in lynching him ...

So I'm going to check all ISO's tonight and I will reconsider about my stance against everyone.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not convinced Vedith is scum. If you guys don't want to lynch Fragger, I think a Bullet, Errant or Vedith lynch is acceptable.

People we cannot lynch today uness they outright claim scum:

Accountant
RadiantCowbells
Keyser Soze

I was in your top town list somewhere before You can lynch me today then?!

Find me scum

I can give a name, but it would be a lie... I'm not really looking to lie as town.
I'll give you a scum name day 2, this is almost a guarantee (I just need the night phase).

wow! Just WOW! :/ is it what I'm think it is?!

[Frozen Angel]

Well! I think you just said you have a power to use in nite phase . am I mistaking?

[Frozen Angel]

night phase*

[Frozen Angel]

W8 W8! Vedith you just said that we should ignore a town member?! and your talking directly to frag about that?!

Come on! Is this a scum lobbying or something?

Anyway, Fraggernaut isn't even in your 'town pile'.

That's what I said, well done.

Well then whay are you talking directly to him about ignoring a town member?!

[Frozen Angel]

I just can't sum up your posts ... :/

[Frozen Angel]

Scum would be more worried about thinking before they post from my perspective

YOU JUST KEEP CLAIMING YOUR NOT SCUM

that's not helping at all. I was trying to tell you this the whole thread. You just won't buy it!

actually my doubts are gone. you need to go. and whatever your result turn out , vedith just got a whole scum point from me.

[Frozen Angel]

I was just trying to give you some space to prove your not scum. see my 494

You just throw that away by claiming again.

And I never assumed you as a town member. I just had a theory you just sabotaged.

[Frozen Angel]

I was just trying to give you some space to prove your not scum. see my 494

You just throw that away by claiming again.

And I never assumed you as a town member. I just had a theory you just sabotaged.

I have proven it.

Who claimed? Please show me a "Claim".

seriously?! Check your Iso. There is not a single post not screaming "I am Town" or "Don't lynch me townies!" or "Scum won't play like me ..."

[Frozen Angel]

I was just trying to give you some space to prove your not scum. see my 494

You just throw that away by claiming again.

And I never assumed you as a town member. I just had a theory you just sabotaged.

I have proven it.

Who claimed? Please show me a "Claim".

seriously?! Check your Iso. There is not a single post not screaming "I am Town" or "Don't lynch me townies!" or "Scum won't play like me ..."

Once again you see saying "Im town" as being scummy? Do explain please.

Oh! Your sirious?! I just said what are you saying! :/

@Bulet and now. scum would never kill someone who are people suspicious of. at least I never saw that before.(if he is genuine(not mafia) which I can't believe anymore)

[Frozen Angel]

This mafia game :

Player 1: "I love blue, blue is my favourite colour! I painted my whole house different shades of blue. I wear blue contacts because I don't like my natural brown eyes. For those orange haters though, I think orange is not that bad."

Players 2: "You don't think orange is that bad? Tell us, why do you hate blue so much?"

[Frozen Angel]

I never said its wrong to call yourself town. its the way he is doing it for every accusations. Your free to check his and my ISO. and I'm sure I described it totally early on.

[Frozen Angel]

Also how is me voting Vedith scummy after what he just did. Then, he tries to shift the mass of scum he was accumulating onto me because he played with me one game and said I am definitely playing like that game and I was scum -_-. That's a bunch of bullshit and you both know it.

well PZ, you just claim vedith is scum after he called you so? ad your reason is that he called you scum?

@vedith Can you rest a moment and start thinking before posting anything else? what the hell is this. I invite people to check your ISO. its just wrong

and my doubts about frag are coming back. Frag might be actually town. But I think the people who is buddying him (vedith /blocky) ... there is something really wrong here.

The two main wagon targets are both on all alone. Although that information probably doesn't mean much, it could mean something for all alone being an attempted counterwagon after a flip.

Can we have a wall post from you. I don't get your stance here, and its getting harder to judge you.

[Frozen Angel]

Well at first vedith - Frag were talking like friends

then vedith called him scum and voted him... I just can't handle this ...

[Frozen Angel]

Friends can vote friends, yo.

lets assume Vedith and Frag are both town. There was no reason for vedith to role claim at the time. the way he role claimed to defend his naked list suggests he had a reason to show Frag town / or at least himself. and the way they started lobbying there and attack each other right after suggests there is a weird goal hidden here.

if Vedith is scum and frag is town , vedith wanted to show us he is contributing with the game (after being accused of lurking several times) which makes sense.

if vedith is town and frag is scum , vedith freaked out when frag started to mention him several times directly and when keyser started to question his reads.

if both are scum ; the lobbying make sense at the time. then to prove their not same aligned they started to attack each other.

in conclusion I think we caught one scum here.

[Frozen Angel]

at least one*

[Frozen Angel]

I have no idea why I quoted my own remark.

because it was actually mine

[Frozen Angel]

Annie

Wait, what?

Who is Annie?! Accountant? :/

[Frozen Angel]

I'm having trouble understanding Fragger. He claims I intend to mislynch him, which implies that he's town. But he's not town, so this is impossible.

As I said before I'm sure there is one scum between Frager and Vedith (I don't know where) and I'm ok with lynching any of them.

And All alone just went for another OMGUS thing against Bleeding scur. so I'm not sure about her either.

and Blocky is still in the game? He is a suspect.

People as final hours are coming in we must choose. and fragger seems to be involved in all the cases. Don't know why you thing All Alone is a better choice for today. What is so scummy about her you want her dead more than frag?

[Frozen Angel]

think*

[Frozen Angel]

me neither. As I said you have nothing solid about her RC.

[Frozen Angel]

/SPAM Acca! Your not a she anymore! ENDSPAM/

Bleeding why you think a Frag lynch won't provide info as much as All Alone's lynch? whats so different about All Alone you want her dead for?

[Frozen Angel]

@MOD prod Blocky?!

[Frozen Angel]

To add on, AA also refused to give a reads list in my game with him.

I don't think I've ever seen All Alone give a reads list.
But then I don't see All Alone do much in any game to be fair.

W8 w8! you said you played here for two weeks?!

[Frozen Angel]

[Frozen Angel]

If I'm mislynched & flip town, you have absolutely nothing to go on.

If I'm mislynched and flip town, town has plenty to go on. Namely that my strong scumreads on Fraggernaut and Bleeding Scar are completely sincere.

See that? That's the type of thing a townie who's at risk of getting lynched says, because they want to help the remaining townies lynch correctly to ensure they win in the end. Fragger doesn't do that. Fragger tries to scare town off his wagon with the threat that his mislynch won't help the game. I seriously doubt a townie would ever concern himself with that.

anyone who is attacking you is not scum. where is this crappy logic coming from?

[Frozen Angel]

Keyser you missed me in your universal reads

[Frozen Angel]

W8 w8! you said you played here for two weeks?!

I've had 20 games with him in the last 2 weeks.

Spoiler:

Do not check my games list to see if I have played for longer than 2 weeks
I do not want to be confirmed scum for you finding this out!

[Frozen Angel]

Find me scum

I can give a name, but it would be a lie... I'm not really looking to lie as town.
I'll give you a scum name day 2, this is almost a guarantee (I just need the night phase).

Well I cant find him ever denying the claim he had here.

[Frozen Angel]

Well! I think you just said you have a power to use in nite phase . am I mistaking?

Well! I think you just said you have a power to use in nite phase . am I mistaking?

I actually said that I should be able to give you scum tomorrow.

[Frozen Angel]

Do you claim you have a town PR role or not?! I'm confused as hell!

[Frozen Angel]

Wow man Your just a sanity destroyer (in both game we are playing together :/ )

[Frozen Angel]

People please make up your minds. Half of the people here thinks a Frag lynch is not a bad one. The other half thinks a vedith lynch is not a bad one. so Why your votes are on other people!

push both of them and one (the scummier - hopefully the scum) will be lynched at the end. put them in L1 ! don't mess around!

[Frozen Angel]

WEll holy shit.

What the hell?!

:O

Whats wrong with this game?! You claimed to force people to lynch in day 1?! Are you guys all crazy or something?!

[Frozen Angel]

WE all want that! But no one will role claim to say that! :/

I guess now we have no chance but following you. Doctor whoever he is heal Accou tonight.

I don't know if its normal to have veteran modifier in game or not but if your a vet and you can shut it down , shut it down tonight because we have a healer for sure , if you can't turn it of just claim it and save the doctor . If its not vet just don't mention your modifier again.

People f.... of . start voting please, before everyone go crazy here :/

[Frozen Angel]

@Vedith. If you are a VT, never roleclaim a PR. Otherwise you out the real PR or waste an investigation/protection on you. VTs should try to attract the NK, not get lynched/policy lynched.

why you think she is lying?

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

seriously?! :/

[Frozen Angel]

I took me a long time to decide to write this post, because, like Keyser said, we have had more than enough role claims for today. But I want to show you guys how serious I am about getting someone lynched today, and how badly I don't want a No Lynch due to split votes. Also a major factor in my decision was the fact that I don't believe either of the two role claims that have been made earlier.

I am a Vigilante.

Well, not a pure Vigilante - I have a modifier to my role, but I'm not going to share that with you since it might help the mafia decide who to kill at night. But I'm still a vigilante, and I will shoot people if I have to.

I consider three players viable lynch candidates for today:

Fraggernaut

,

Vedith

and

BlockyMan

(policy).

If the Day ends in a No Lynch or the lynch of a player that is not one of these three candidates, I will shoot the scummiest player on the wagon of the unacceptable lynch candidate, regardless of what alignment the lynched player flips. If it is a No Lynch, I will shoot the scummiest player on the No Lynch wagon/in the "not voting" list.

Place your votes carefully. You have 24 hours.

Even though you're still a donkey cause I'm town, don't worry. I'll protect you tonight.

YOUR CLAIMING to be the doctor?

After doing some reading:

Bullet is now on the acceptable lynch list.

Can you share your readings with me?

and I really want to trust you and your claim right now. But I won't do it blindly.

After doing some reading:

Bullet is now on the acceptable lynch list.

Why? The WiFi fail is genuine.

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: Fraggernaut

I know my vote is still on All Alone. Yes, I still think All Alone is a viable lynch, as his meta in this game is somewhat similar to the game I played with him as my newbie game.

I know my intent to vote Fraggernaut is contradictory with what I said earlier. However, I see that if Accountant is intending to Vig Fragger tonight,

my initial plan of whether Mafia would kill Fragger tonight is going to fail

. I also am scumreading Fragger now due to him just

claiming a general Power Role instead of his actual role

, which is beneficial for scum but detrimental for town. Also I know this would look bad on me as I am currently tied with Fragger for the longest wagon, and

voting Fragger seems like a desprate counterwagon, but this is my current genuine biggest scumread

in Accountant's lynch pool, what am I to do?

well. why should mafia kill someone who is under suspicious (I'm sure I asked you this before - still no answer) ?
Claiming a General power role? are you reading the game?! He claimed to be the doctor.

and yes it shows you desperate because it was just after Frag's claim :/

[Frozen Angel]

If All Alone & Myself are together it would be such a swag play. Unfortunately we are not cause I'm town.

And you believe All Alone is scum?

[Frozen Angel]

If All Alone & Myself are together it would be such a swag play. Unfortunately we are not cause I'm town.

And you believe All Alone is scum?

'

My vote has been on All Alone the entire game outside of RVS. What do you think?

ok

[Frozen Angel]

"I'll protect you tonight"

Oh

OH so what you say people ? push BNL to force him role claim as well?

then my turn?

and then key's?

WE must act! stop branching!

[Frozen Angel]

Blocky is just so in shadows right now . He is definitely out of table for today's lynch as we can't get enough votes on him.

vedith claimed to be town cop. we can't definitely risk to kill him either (but the way he is denying his claim is just.....) :/

about Bullet / Fragger I guess I will go with a Bullet lynch right now after the claim Frag did. (But I think Frag Played horrible if he is really the doctor)

And I think you must kill Blocky tonight.

We can see if vedith has anything to offer tomorrow or not. and Frag is just already dead if he is really the doctor.

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

[Frozen Angel]

Come on! You guys can't be all PR players?!! :/

Can you counter claim vedith/fragg/Accountant ?

[Frozen Angel]

I really hope you guys know that apart from scum trying to avoid getting lynched, PRs also try to avoid the lynch as far as possible without claiming

Pretty much My feelings right now!

[Frozen Angel]

Who is next PateintZero ?!! Please start preparing your claim! This is madness coming in

[Frozen Angel]

we have 13 players in a surely 10:3 setup 4 claimed to have a PR role so far! what are the odds to find 4 of 10 PR players all in day 1 ?! this just seems so OFF. I think , ... Shit I have no idea what should we do!

[Frozen Angel]

I think the only choice we have is to sit if BNL will counter claim any of the claimed roles or not.

anyone has any other suggestions?

We can't push anyone else. NO MORE SHITTY CLAIMS. I'm sure there is one 1 mafia between these 4.

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

seriously?! :/

Were you town-reading BulletNLynchproof when you asked this?

No ! I wasn't scum reading him either. and You put a vote on Bullet when we were talking about killing fragger , with not mentioning the reason. Surprising enough ?

And Blocky your scum-o-meter thing is just that pathetic I see no reason for answering the following accusation. please use logic when your accusing someone.

[Frozen Angel]

No counter claim?! :/ you gotta be kidding me ...

[Frozen Angel]

This game is not promised for being balanced!
You guys all can be true PR's!

Lets vote Keyser! Or just vote me and end this madness! :/
*I prefer a no lynch as I need time to analyze this shit we're into. Bleeding scar and Frag Can be both protective , but wtf! :/ .........
I'm a poor vanilla townie here!

[Frozen Angel]

Everybody fucking role claimed! lets mass claim and direct the night actions to see who is telling the truth.

Everyone please follow my lead !

[Frozen Angel]

Vig please tell us your target. whoever you want dead. that can verify you tomorrow.
Tracker you must track one of the doctors here.
Both protectives do whatever you want as if your real you have no use anymore
Watcher go watch bullet.
What else is claimed? Gunsmith? you go check blocky!
if we have a role cop here go check vedith!

Anyone else ?!
And I'm going to fucking sleep

I think this is the best coordination to verify the truth?

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: No Lynch

[Frozen Angel]

Whoever don't claim today is a suspect tomorrow!

It's not a normal way. But its the only way we have to win this shit :/

[Frozen Angel]

Enough People role claimed that we can't go with the usual "protect" and "investigate for the lie" method.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not ok with lynching someone who claimed Tracker! :/

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: No Lynch

Frozen I'll shoot you if you don't take your vote off this shit

Who should I vote my queen?! :/

[Frozen Angel]

As I said this is shit to vote a claimed Tracker

But ...

the fuck

VOTE: Bullet

[Frozen Angel]

Blocky I'm really waiting for your watch results.

And I'm not totally convinced about killing Frag as it could be mafia plan when they killed Bleeding scar last night. It's really time for your hard claim Frag.

And Accou you got a huge scum point from me. Can't believe you anymore.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm still convinced about the mass claim as we can categorize people and hopefully find the liers.

[Frozen Angel]

To say their town, as they can't prove it.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm still convinced about the mass claim as we can categorize people and hopefully find the liers.

Won't work. Games have their setup checked by a bunch of experienced players whose job it is to make sure setups can't be broken by mass claim.

ah in that case we already lost this ... as I'm sure mafia knows all the pr roles.

Now I'm really leaning toward vedith lynch .

[Frozen Angel]

He never claimed to be doctor directly. he said he have a protective role. I won't vote him until his hard claim.

[Frozen Angel]

ok first and most importantly. bullet i owe you an apology for insulting you yesterday. i don't think you're a dumbass, i got angry and i used my anger as an excuse to say things i don't mean. that was really shitty of me and i apologize

secondly,

VOTE: Fraggernaut

and this post has some kind of desperation. It seems your running away from the one who you pushed last day. got a scum point.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm weird accou? You claimed to be a vig that followed by a mass claim in the last pages which killed both of our Tracker / Doctor that you actually denied and stated it was just becuase of forcing people to lynch . and WE LYNCHED THE TRACKER. And you think I'm weird because I can't trust you and the one who your defending at? your reasoning to defend her sucks acca. You said its not scummy because her suspect(bullet) is dead. She is a suspect just because of that.

But Yes , I see now. AA didn't push Bullet yesterday, I agree. I take my comment about AA back. BUT I'M not ok with you Accou.

@Vedith Any reads ? as you promised you have info day 2?

or its just gut feelings?

and Radiant seems disappeared at the end partition of the last day. That's not something I expect from her.

[Frozen Angel]

IS that information or gut feelings? :/

[Frozen Angel]

I know you can't have information about 2 so i'm going with the second.

[Frozen Angel]

tfw frozen angel is scumreading confirmed town and not voting confirmed scum

:\

^ the face is this

:/

my face is like that ^

Your not confirmed town ... and You lied

[Frozen Angel]

I won't vote until I see both Blocky analysis and Frag's hard claim.

And Accou it matters not. your not in my top town read anymore because you lied and forced lots of people to claim in end portion of last day. I trusted you because I was sure no scum will lie about being a vig but now you just denied to be one. Why a scum can't fake be a vig and deny it in the following day?

[Frozen Angel]

Anyway, weren't you the one who was in love with the idea of massclaim?

only after we had 5 PR claims...

[Frozen Angel]

Frager is in L2 no one vote because of preventing a quick lol hammer. WE NEED TO ANALYSE LAST NIGHT RESULTS.

[Frozen Angel]

vedith claimed he has no Pr?!

I missed that? He clearly said his view on Frag is mix of information and gut feelings ...

IS that information or gut feelings? :/

It's both. Try not to fuck up with the lynch today!
On phone so not sure if I voted

VOTE: fragger

[Frozen Angel]

PatientZer0, Vedith, calm down guys - let's get to the bottom of the roleclaims/investigations first.

Someone is lying - we need to

'lynch the liar'

.

That's what I was trying to tell since the beginning of this day and I'm acting weird here :/ ha ...

[Frozen Angel]

/Spam

@MOD well I was just watching your ISO and I found you already confirmed I am a kind of deadline

Deadline will be frozen while searching for replacement for Slandaar

this is not fair :/

Endspam/

[Frozen Angel]

Blocky , FRag where are you guys .... :////

[Frozen Angel]

Expedience can easily be the roleblocker(if there is any?).

vedith must full role claim as well.

Were you roleblocked last night?

[Frozen Angel]

although its stupid for a mafia roleblocker to block vedith when someone claimed as watcher.

that's very unlikely for him to be the roleblocker (if blocky is really town)

this might be a scum/scum attack, something for blocky to say and He confirms so we get assured Blocky is the watcher.

If anybody else visited Vedith , it can be proven.

[Frozen Angel]

And about frag. I have intention to hammer , but i will hold my vote until his hard claim.

The only possible role for him to claim is the jailkeeper, which is unlikely because he wasn't protecting the doc last night.

[Frozen Angel]

Ah I see vedith unvoted. clever got a town point for waiting for the hard claim

[Frozen Angel]

and my old scenario about Blocky / Expedience both being mafia.

I also checked the forum. there are several more roles than roleblocker could be have a mafia flavor but be nonkilling. like a mafia rolecop (its possible because of the high PR setup I can see) or a mafia doctor.

if he is a mafia doctor he could go after vedith to prevent Accou's shot. To show him guilty today.

[Frozen Angel]

A town investigator can also check vedith at night because of his stupid play last day . its not out of table.

[Frozen Angel]

@MOD its more than 24 hours please prod Fragger.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not actually a vigilante, and if there was a real vigilante he would of shot last night, so Mafia Doctor makes no sense.

yeah noted.

[Frozen Angel]

I can't accept your try

VOTE: Fraggernut in L1

your lynch is the only available way to push the game forward. if your a VT which is highly unlikely at this point, vedith is scum . if vedith is scum Exp and blocky are both town.

[Frozen Angel]

its a 10:3 confirmed game

[Frozen Angel]

hammered ...

[Frozen Angel]

Why are you crying that things are unlikely but not fucking claiming anything.

Because nobody asked me to until now. I'm a town JOAT, not disclosing my abilities at this point. I used my cop ability on Vedith last night and got a Not Guilty result.

w8 wtf?! you could just stay silence till tomorrow?!

ah , you was afraid to be night killed that forced you to share your only result so fast?! Why?!

I can't see any other reason for this claim right now

[Frozen Angel]

PZ you fell the ladder right now.

afraid of the JOAT claim? why are you panicked?!

[Frozen Angel]

You know I really wish FA wasn't obvious town because I wan to lynch her so fucking badly right now.

[Frozen Angel]

I was certain Vedith is mafia. You guys were all grasping at shit on fragger all fucking game, he was going to die today whether i hammered him or somebody else did in a couple hours.

Your still certain vedith is mafia even after the JOAT claim?

give me a break PZ your hammer can't be considered as a town move.

[Frozen Angel]

vedith can be a foolish VT who wanted to push the lynch faster on the one who he believed is scum. He never actually claimed anything. He just grasped everywhere.

[Frozen Angel]

There is a possibility for both vedith / Frag to be town but its highly unlikely that's why Frag is probably the scum

[Frozen Angel]

Where is Errant! :/

I totally missed him. He posted anything today?

[Frozen Angel]

vedith/Expendice being scum has no relation to blocky.
Expendice/Blocky being scum has no relation to vedith.

and vedith/blocky being scum can't just happen without Expendice being one.

[Frozen Angel]

Is there usually 3 or 4 PR roles in 13 people games?

this game is not promised to be balanced. and yeah something like that.

[Frozen Angel]

Because I got an innocent result on Vedith. He could still be a godfather though, but I consider that unlikely.

^ because of this

[Frozen Angel]

and yeah he could be godfather ...

[Frozen Angel]

What was your night action Expedience?

You claimed JOAT right?

[Frozen Angel]

What was your night action Expedience?

You claimed JOAT right?

I healed Accountant.

Nice one

VOTE: Expedience

you said you know vedith is a confirmed not guilty and blocky is a confirmed watcher and you healed Accou?

yeah , sure

[Frozen Angel]

thats make no sense...

Why you claimed that specific time last day?
when we already had a lynch?

And sir why you didn't use your vig shot last night to prove your a JOAT ?

[Frozen Angel]

+ : we already have a Watcher / Tracker here.

I can't find a single game containing Watcher / Tracker and a JOAT ...

[Frozen Angel]

Vedith, what the fuck are you doing this game? I'm not sure what to think about him, but he's being evasive and insensible. However I've seen Vedith play scum, and he was a lot more serious than this, so that's a slight point in his favor. I don't see why he would make posts like 520 or 535 as any alignment, really... He claimed cop with bad timing and it was unnecessary, but I feel there's a chance he's just trolling town after he retracted the claim. I believe Blocky's claim over Vedith's one. I trust Vedith over PatientZer0.

wow, is this after you find vedith not guilty? when you believe he is actually town?

guys we have a scum here!

[Frozen Angel]

And you used the 1 shot on accountant last night instead of saving it?

Yes, considering that I could die soon. I figured Accountant was the most likely to be attacked, other than me.

thats make no sense...

Why you claimed that specific time last day?
when we already had a lynch?

Because I was asked to claim.

And sir why you didn't use your vig shot last night to prove your a JOAT ?

I don't have one??

1st : "considering that I could die soon" ?!!! wtf?!

2nd : "Because I was asked to claim" no you weren't!

3rd : what are your shots exactly? (I mean beside the cop shot and the heal shot already wasted.)

[Frozen Angel]

You were sure he is a watcher!!

and you thought he is a mafia watcher and didn't protected him?!

this is just nonsense!

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not good at english.

but "That's because it's a legitimate claim." indicates its just logical. not surly true... yes?

[Frozen Angel]

I like a Patient/Errant team. I thought maybe Keyser but no way in hell would he kill Vedith.

I'm not agreed. vedith was confirmed after last day events. Confirmed watcher saw Ex visiting vedith.

I'm in uni. I'll post a long list later today but for now :

1- Kaser was 100% sure frag is town

2- Kayser said "he town read slandar slot because " there is no way a scum would leave this game! " in day 1 (don't have the time to find it right now)

3- He was in Bullet's wagon in day 1 for JUST following everyone else

4- and he wanted to slow down the game last day we found Expendith.

for all of these

VOTE: Kayser

*Sid note : we are 7 players right now. By mistaking today we will get in a double Lylo tomorrow , we need more time to discuss it.

My other reads : Accou (slight town read - not so sure) - RC (town read) - All alone (null - maybe bussing his partner last day?) - PZ (well honestly I have no idea why you guys are scum reading him. ) and Errant (very possible option for being kayser's partner by the look of things ...)

[Frozen Angel]

1- Kaser was 100% sure frag is town

Incorrect. Based on meta-reasons, I was town-lean-reading Fraggernaut D1. But it was not a 100% town-confirmation/town-read.

Incorrect. Everyone are free to check your Iso since the beginning in D1 and D2. You actually never voted him even when you said "he is actually asking you to lynch him"

3- He was in Bullet's wagon in day 1 for JUST following everyone else

Incorrect. I had my own reasons to scum-read/vote BulletNLynchproof. What were your reasons for scum-reading/voting BulletNLynchproof? D2, I thought at least 1 scum was on his wagon (Errantparabola, Slandarr, BlockyMan, Keyser Soze, Fraggernaut, Accountant, Frozen Angel). I do not believe all 3 scum would be on his wagon (following the classic 'some-on-some-off' theory).

Incorrect. You made a naked vote on Bullet in the last pages of day 1 because He was your best guess when "Frag is not scum". your vote on bullet actually is a prove to my first point also.

As I said its a very important vote today. I won't join in era wagon when he might just be an inactive fellow. I have my stronger reads.

Did scum miss a trick by not bussing their scum-teammate Expedience? It's easy to win town-cred by bussing your dead-weight scum-buddy.

if that's true. Ale alone and Accou are the best options for this.

And yeah I hammered Bullet to get a day 1 lynch . I voted Frag because I couldn't believe he is a vanilla townie screwed that much by claiming doc. and I actually found Expdience as scum In day 3...

what have you done for town so far sir?

[Frozen Angel]

As I said its a very important vote today. I won't join in era wagon when he might just be an inactive fellow. I have my stronger reads.

Did you fucking not even read 1203? No one's voting EP because he's lurking, we're voting him because he has associatives out the ass and he's scummy as all shit.

I read it and I find him scummy as well (read my first post today) . but i won't vote yet because I'm sure there are so eager people here to lynch him even before he find a chance to post in here ...

[Frozen Angel]

@RC AND we will loose this game if we don't act smart and patient ...

there are 2 mafia players in the 6 players I can see right now. and WE have an actual clue to use to find them.

So why you think PZ0 is scummy accou ?

@Keyser I need to check your ISO more carefully later today before posting anything else about you . and yeah I never claimed I am town because of that. I just said why I voted on all three wagons ...

[Frozen Angel]

He is in L1 ...

really?!!

are you guys not listening to me? ...

[Frozen Angel]

Dude, FA, what are telling me to listen about?

the fact if we vote someone wrong we're going to be in lylo next day ... so are you 100% sure about this?

[Frozen Angel]

:/ at this point I must admit I have no idea what should I do. my two town reads are pushing this too hard make me think am I being to cautious?

he better show up faster if he is town ...

I have intention to hammer him

[Frozen Angel]

I never said I will vote him before he posts . I just wanted to make it clear that i see him scummy as well , But I need to be more sure about it ...

I just don't like the rush at this point. It's not in town favor...

my intent means if anyone else hammers him without my permission is a confirmed scum (talking to Pz as he is not around eaither)

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen Angel might I remind you that the only other "rushed" lynch was the lynch of Expedience and he was scum? I advise you to hammer ASAP.

I'll give him time till midnight here (about 5 hours)

if he didn't answer I'll vote.

the facts are strong enough but still I want to calm this wagon because its an important decision we are making ...

[Frozen Angel]

1231 feels like a last minute scum post to appear as though he is attacking errant

I wanted to say the same thing ...

[Frozen Angel]

If Errantparabola flips scum, then yes, I agree how that looks suspicious. Errantparabola is not confirmed scum yet, so I would advise reading his ISO like I did.

His low-activity around the 3 lynch-wagons was admittedly the starting point of my suspicion of his slot.

so in the first part of this post its like your saying you know Erra is town

in second part your trying to show why your scum reading him ?!

[Frozen Angel]

well time's up.

VOTE: EP

as I promised.

[Frozen Angel]

well, yeah. I'm sorry about that hammer. I just felt I must do it because you were advertising otherwise. i had a really strong feeling suggesting he is your mafia fellow because of the way you two talked whole game.

and I'm kind of sure about you being mafia and I think I already stated why I'm thinking that way last day.

If Errantparabola flips scum, then yes, I agree how that looks suspicious.

this looks like you knew he was town. what do you have in your defense sir?

[Frozen Angel]

Who's up for a Keyser lynch?

accou there are two mafias in game. who you think is keyser's fellow mafia? without finding the relation I'm not confident enough to vote in lylo.

[Frozen Angel]

And I forget to tell this : Welcome Shiro. its a big decision to join a game in lylo.

[Frozen Angel]

Can I ask something no game related?

Your avatar and RC's avatar are showing the same girl? who is she? and I like her teddy bear

[Frozen Angel]

can you make your case against Accou more clear RC. and what do you think about keyser?

can you see any kind of relationship between Accou-keyser?

[Frozen Angel]

Accou tell me more about a keyser / PZ-shiro scum team. why you think their related. what is the case against shiro?

[Frozen Angel]

I want accou's answer to my question first ... I'm analyzing ...

[Frozen Angel]

and you didn't answer my question yet RC , in post 1261 ^

[Frozen Angel]

so there is no shiro-keyser / shiro-RC / me-RC / keyser-shiro / keyser -RC and shiro-me team ?

you just said your 100% sure Accou is scum by this analize...

[Frozen Angel]

I forget me-keyser

[Frozen Angel]

so your sure about accou by this kind of analyze? say a yes or no ...

[Frozen Angel]

so I'm asking as a newbie if someone just vote right now the game is finished even if someone unvote afterward?

if that's true I don't see why accou voted someone if she knew a 2-scum team just can hammer her target

[Frozen Angel]

I think you and accou are scum partners who are bussing someone no one else is hammering ...

now someone please ask my question. that will confirm my theories...

[Frozen Angel]

yeah I saw it right now

VOTE: Keyser thats a lucky shot ...

[Frozen Angel]

the whole day was my intention to hammer. you missed it?

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not a tree nor a bush

what am I?!

[Frozen Angel]

With strawberries?! I have allergy for that ...

[Frozen Angel]

@RC I might be

anyone wants pizza? some few peaces left from last night ...

[Frozen Angel]

[Frozen Angel]

WELL am I scum?

why you guys think that?

[Frozen Angel]

don't think that please! I like when you guys townreads me

[Frozen Angel]

well that question I asked before was stupid because FB actually confirmed this :

Win Condition
You win when your team controls 50% of the vote.

so I'm going to win when my team (town) has equal votes to mafia

[Frozen Angel]

Win Condition
You win when your team controls 50% of the vote.

Yea you are scum

With RC or Accountant?

your fast on jumping in my wagon ....naughty ... kill him tomorrow maybe?

[Frozen Angel]

or shiro is actually a she?!!

where is accou... her/his case is still in progress ...

[Frozen Angel]

I'm going to post a song wall after the game , named "Ice queen" please listen to it carefully.

[Frozen Angel]

And I'm going to assure you its not from Avril.

[Frozen Angel]

Come on my partner where are you we already won

[Frozen Angel]

^ I mean my other town fellow (who is still alive)

[Frozen Angel]

Is that you shiro?

[Frozen Angel]

Mod were about to make a double modkil to make you victorious shiro ... :/

[Frozen Angel]

lol

[Frozen Angel]

Ice Queen

Spoiler: lyrics

When leaves have fallen
And skies turned to grey
The night keeps on closing in on the day
A

nightingale

sings his song of farewell
You better hide for

her freezing hell

On cold wings she's coming
You better keep moving
For warmth, you'll be longing, nightingale
Come on just feel it
Don't you see it?
You better believe
When she embraces
Your heart turns to stone
She comes at night when you are all alone
And when she whispers
Your blood shall run

cold

You better hide before she finds you
Whenever she is raging
She takes a life away
Haven't you seen?
Haven't you seen?
The ruins on our world
Whenever she is raging

She takes a life away

Haven't you seen?
Haven't you seen?
The ruins on our world
She covers the earth with a breathtaking cloak
The sun awakes and melts it away
The world now opens its eyes and sees
The dawning of the new day
On cold wings she's coming
You better keep moving
For warmth, you'll be longing, nightingale
Come on just feel it
Don't you see it?
You better believe
Whenever she is raging
She takes a life away
Haven't you seen?
Haven't you seen?
The ruins on our world
Whenever she is raging
She takes a life away
Haven't you seen?
Haven't you seen?
The ruins on our world

yeah, I killed lots of people during this game

MORTALS

[Frozen Angel]

YOU were great

actually that bussing I did on you made me and RC universal town reads. so YOU are awesome

and you send the signals

[Frozen Angel]

Please read that song!

It's definitely about me

[Frozen Angel]

don't bring my else!!!!!

she is reserved for my town games!

[Frozen Angel]

and yeah, you ended the game alive so your free to say it

I'll kill you in my next scum game

[Frozen Angel]

in post 1355 I said : "Don't bring my Elsa in"

[Frozen Angel]

ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED

I just laughed about 15 minutes to this post , when you published it