Mini 1741: Day 3

[Jake from State Farm]

Sup

[Jake from State Farm]

Asked Siri to pick a number between 1 and 13, she picked 10

vote input

[Jake from State Farm]

Is he at l-1?

[Jake from State Farm]

No he's not. Just checked

[Jake from State Farm]

Idk what you are talking about. If you could speak English that would be great or I'll be forced to thrash you

[Jake from State Farm]

So he's town?

[Jake from State Farm]

I was confused. You asked him not to play poorly and I wouldn't think you'd say that to somebody you didn't have a read on. My bad

[Jake from State Farm]

He's still not at l-1

[Jake from State Farm]

I thought I was the jester. 2 in 1 game? Nicely done yimmy

[Jake from State Farm]

no I didn't! I was talking to Lhix and I' pretty sure I said "his stupid way of playing" not that he is ... oh please!

I'm not insulting anyone don't do this ...

Ignore him. He likes to push buttons and a person like you would benefit to not take anything he says to heart

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: heart

He's totally scum

[Jake from State Farm]

Heart is an actual person?

[Jake from State Farm]

Every game we've played you push buttons.

Plus frozen has a special condition called ssv. She gets upset really easily

[Jake from State Farm]

Heart is that thing in your chest that makes you feel things.

[Jake from State Farm]

The bird flies south for the winter

[Jake from State Farm]

Goodnight moon

[Jake from State Farm]

If you can't have fun why play? If somebody attacks you for a single sentence ignore them and just keeping doing what you do.

[Jake from State Farm]

[Jake from State Farm]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Who+is+Captain+Planet+

[Jake from State Farm]

(By the way, Jake from State Farm, I thought there was no comfirmable randomization?)

There isn't

[Jake from State Farm]

it's not that confusing

[Jake from State Farm]

Can someone explain to me why Keyser's reaction to Lhix was weird? Everyone seems to be jumping on a lynch wagon and agreeing but no one can explain why.

I'm wondering if we'll find scum on that wagon at the end of the game.

you have to keep in mind that the only one who said the reaction was weird was RC, and pretty much anything RC says can be ignored.

[Jake from State Farm]

Eh, I've got no better place to put my vote. Lord help me but I'll sheep RC. That's not something I'd normally do

vote: keyser

[Jake from State Farm]

That's l-2 if my maff is right

[Jake from State Farm]

Zero points for originality.

Spoiler:

[Jake from State Farm]

By the way, I won't be making a roleclaim unless the mod confirms the rule regarding claiming scum with another player.

looking at the game and site rules, there is no such rule. Unless it is disguised as something else but a search for the word "scum" or "claim" yielded no results

[Jake from State Farm]

@keyser, pardon me if this was asked/answered already. Why did you ask link about his experience after he claimed he was scum with you? I don't understand the point of such a question

[Jake from State Farm]

Hope you don't mind stealing this quote from you.

yeah go for it

[Jake from State Farm]

It's in scum's interest to spend longer in RVS because it is not possible to hunt scum

people still think this?

[Jake from State Farm]

All of my current reads are rather Null, I stated the very minor reason against Captain Planet, but wrote in detail roughly how I would only go through with it if nothing else presented itself besides the baited slip. Garmr Seems rather null, but with a town lean given his eh interest in the analysis and overall nothing objectively incriminating. Zulfy is null at the moment, I dont believe the hatewagon comments were anything more out of the ordinary than the shit of Page 5, I would say before taking any major steps we should try to bait out his own reads in full and observe his behaviors a bit longer, but he would be the only other minor issue as I have seen so far. Frozen is a town lean for me, given her activity in searching for analysis and scum hunting, it feels like the resources given by P. 5 are being fully used by them. Zoronos would get a similar read and Mathilde is Null with scum lead only due to her recent comments as presented by Aneninen.

All in all, I think the baiting was very mildly effective, as not much huge has come out of it. But I think it has succeeded us in getting us away from RVS muddle, so we can begin looking through the rubbish and get down to something incriminating or objective.

what about me? you didn't mention me? don't you love me anymore?

Spoiler:

[Jake from State Farm]

Do you love me?

my heart is broken so right now.. NO

[Jake from State Farm]

Sometimes there is. Why do it? Why tell us you did it? +1

I didn't use confirmable randomization
I used regular randomization, why? Idk was bored
Why did I tell people? Was kinda hopin somebody would have voted me for it or at least question me. Helps me figure out who's being inquisitive and who isn't

[Jake from State Farm]

Town are hypocrites all the time. It's not a tell.
I wish it was, but it just isn't.

Qft

[Jake from State Farm]

Are you just lurking actively, Jake?

I'm not lurking at all

[Jake from State Farm]

Because I've seen someone claim scum with another player in a previous completed game I played in - he was subsequently mod-killled (he was a newbie, he was mafia-aligned). Why would an experienced-Lhix want to get mod-killed?

Link?

[Jake from State Farm]

Btw, that still doesn't explain why you asked the question. It was a weird thing to ask imo

[Jake from State Farm]

we played together? I don't remember

[Jake from State Farm]

oh i replaced, out, that's probably why I don't remember

[Jake from State Farm]

oh i replaced, out, that's probably why I don't remember

Sorry but I'm not buying this.

Our argument was dominating the thread on day 1 until I got to the point where I was seriously considering replacing out and leaving the forum for good.

But my main concern is that your play style is so different in this game. Far lurkier.

VOTE: Jake from state farm

i'm sorry you don't buy it but it is the truth.

and yes my playstyle is completely different this game but I said in the signup thread that i was going to play different this game and I am a man of my word. You aren't going to see the usual jake day 1, probably not at all this game because I am actually having more fun playing this way.

[Jake from State Farm]

your judging people because you like a single post from them not their current reads and observations. you say you like my votes then call me probably scum later. and its not clear what you think about Lhix or keyser at all

I like this post... you are town

[Jake from State Farm]

[Jake from State Farm]

What's this +1 nonsense about?

[Jake from State Farm]

, and I was already not liking

But I'm such a likable guy.

[Jake from State Farm]

But uhhh why not just jump into what was already there and try to start your own thing? Kinda like what Lhix was doing...

Somehow missed this question

Because I'm not lhix

[Jake from State Farm]

Cause I'm not trying to "start my own thing". What part of I'm not playing like myself day one did you not understand?

[Jake from State Farm]

That's a stupid reason to scum read somebody btw. The early incarnation of jfsf would do stuff like that all the time as town. It's not an alignment tell so yeah, stupid reason to scum read somebody

[Jake from State Farm]

1. Yes I was doing my own Rvs thing like everyone else did
2. Me doing my own thing isn't alignment indicative so it's stupid to try and imply it is
3. See number 2
4. Scum reading somebody for not jumping in to the game is also stupid because it's not alignment indicative so your basis for scum reading lhix and myself are bad and if you are town I hope after this game you learn to not do it anymore.

[Jake from State Farm]

Yo, that town is kinda bitchy. I can see we're not getting anywhere with this conversation so I'll wait on everyone else to come in and interact with it.

You started the stupid conversation, I felt we were actually making progress. Are you saying once this game is over you aren't going to change your opinion? Cause if not that's just being narrow minded.

Like seriously, not joining into ongoing conversation and deciding to Rvs isn't a scum tell and it isn't really scummy either.

[Jake from State Farm]

Time to stop being serious, it's killing my buzz.

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm seeing Zulfy vs Jake as TvT here.

*hugs back*

You said earlier you kind of thought I was scum. What changed?

[Jake from State Farm]

K

[Jake from State Farm]

just an fyi, you aren't allowed to talk about ongoing games

[Jake from State Farm]

One day I'll play a game to completion with her

[Jake from State Farm]

Cause all my games have over 100 posts, I left the site for a break sometime after that (well actually I went and played as an Alt) and I'm a very forgetful person

[Jake from State Farm]

I think I left cause I replaced into a game and was immediately forced replaced cause somebody didn't like me. I was having a bad day and said F this site. A couple days later I calmed down and decided to play under a different name. The only other reason I replace out is if somebody crosses the line and insults me and the game mod refuses to take action, I can't play in a hostile environment. Yes I need to be less sensitive but people also need to be held accountable for breaking the rules.

[Jake from State Farm]

Kinda have no leads of anything at the moment, and what I should comment on is a bit dry as well. Would anyone mind or care to ask me question?

Do you think I should watch creed tomorrow?

[Jake from State Farm]

You're voting for yourself? That's such a scum tell. Complete LAMIST.

No it isn't.

[Jake from State Farm]

It's anti town. It's not alignment indicative

[Jake from State Farm]

Yes

[Jake from State Farm]

mod is frozen still in the game?

[Jake from State Farm]

Yes

Why?

Gut

[Jake from State Farm]

Jake, why are you not moved by either Mathilda's or my attacks on RC?
@Lhix, I only saw that second part of your Garmr case. Reading the first one now.

Cause I'm not

[Jake from State Farm]

I just don't really agree with mathilda's case, plus I don't trust him. You didn't add anything new and basically want to lynch him for being antitown. I've seen RCs scum game, caught him twice on day 1 as scum. This to me just doesn't feel like the same RC to me. I'll be sure to monitor the situation but I'm fine lynching Captain Planet

[Jake from State Farm]

His slot isn't though.

[Jake from State Farm]

Anyway, I'd appreciate some more votes on Input. Dudes done nothing all game and needs some pressure if he won't provide content without prompting.

You realize he's been on v/la since the 24th right? Kind of weak to attack a player on v/la. I do agree he needs to post more but dude, cmon

[Jake from State Farm]

I kind of agree, plus if it's a troll account it makes it even more likely. feels like a cheap lynch but keyser is the only person that makes sense. Mathilda can be the third scum.

[Jake from State Farm]

Yeah lhix would be a fine lynch candidate also.

[Jake from State Farm]

Jake from state farm - Active lurker who does not explain himself, absolutely no scum hunting, posts the minimum possible, sometimes, single word posts. This is not the Jake that I played with earlier. Defends RC saying that it's anti-town and not scum play and just accepts this rather than sees that it's a cause for further questioning. This is Day 1! We need to generate information. You take what little tell you're given and exploit it like Aneninen did with me. You don't just ignore it.

I'm not active lurking, I've already found 2, possibly 3 scum, I said in the signup que I wasn't going to be playing like how I normally play, anti-town =/= scum and I have a town read on RC as I already mentioned, and I think you are scum so of course I'm not going to follow you on this weak ass RC push.

Good day sir

[Jake from State Farm]

I note that both Keyser and Lhix are in Mathilda's town pile.

Cause he's their partner.

Nobody is even talking about lynching him so this paranoid wall post of reads is very odd. The discussion was lynching Kaiser or lhix. paranoia can sometimes be a scum tell

[Jake from State Farm]

My bad, don't notice the pronouns on my phone

[Jake from State Farm]

Lhix - I was very dubious about him outing himself as scum along with Keyser but it would be a very ballsy move as scum

Given that lhix is banned as a troll account, does that change your opinion? troll accounts troll on purpose and claiming scum with their scum partners is something trolls do

[Jake from State Farm]

Who's in Angel's slot now?

still vacant

[Jake from State Farm]

I wasn't really sure what a troll account was. Thanks for clearing that up. I was confused because it wasn't like he was being obnoxious in thread or anything. If Lhix is a troll account and he has a history of outing fellow scum then doesn't this basically mean that the whole game has been ruined and might as well be abandoned?

I guess, it's up to the mod to decide what to do and obviously the mod has decided not to do that. planet's reaction was odd enough to me to want to see a flip, the soft claim doesn't do anything for me but i'd be willing to switch to lhix if people are really scared about it.

I learned long ago that fear does not exist in this game. I also do not have any mercy for him, I was taught to not be merciful, mercy is for the weak.

[Jake from State Farm]

Mod didn't say kling replaced anyone. Did he post that in your private topic?

[Jake from State Farm]

Lhix/keyser/fire are scum?

[Jake from State Farm]

Hey Fire, Wanna get away?

[Jake from State Farm]

Except it's very obvious who kling replaced based off the mods posts in the replacement thread. Nice scramble but scum team confirmed

[Jake from State Farm]

These were back to back. So if you aren't scum, and you truly got that info from the replacement thread, you must be dumber then dumb right?

25th November -

Mini 1741

Moderator:

Yimmy

Status:

Day 1, 16 pages

Replacing:

Frozen Angel

Filled, still need replacements for TheLhix and Keyser

25th November -

Mini 1741

Moderator:

Yimmy

Status:

Day 1, 16 pages

Replacing:

Frozen Angel

I also require a replacement for Keyser söze

Filled, thanks KlingonCelt. Only TheLhix is left.

So you are dumber then dumb or scum who
Slipped. Given we know scum is keyser and lhix already, I'm going with you slipped. So fire

Wanna get away?

[Jake from State Farm]

Except it's very obvious who kling replaced based off the mods posts in the replacement thread. Nice scramble but scum team confirmed

lol?
You serious right now?

Dead serious. See my most recent post. No way you read the replacement thread and were confused who was replaced

[Jake from State Farm]

God damn mod quoted his post saying he needed one for keyser when he said it was filled by kling. Cmon bro

[Jake from State Farm]

These were back to back. So if you aren't scum, and you truly got that info from the replacement thread, you must be dumber then dumb right?

What? How does that make sense. I am asking the mod a legit question and somehow you turn it into a scum slip.

The mod quoted his post asking for a replacement for keyser when he said it was filled by kling. That means kling replaced keyser obviously. He also says he needs one for lhix.

Since the post RIGHT BEFORE that one, the mod says he needs 2 replacements. There is no way you got confused.


I think mod posted in your private topic, he didn't say who he replaced and you came here looking and was confused. Now you are scrambling to make yourself look better but nothing you can do will make up for the fact there is NO WAY you could be confused by who kling replaced.


I love how things work out in our favor

[Jake from State Farm]

if you are trying to reaction test me, its horrible.

No reaction test. Caught scum is caught.

[Jake from State Farm]

Cause it's on your scum buddy keyser. He's closest to a lynch already anyway. Lhix already confirmed he and keyser are scum together. Day 2 we can lynch you or lhix. Day 3 the other and it'll be a cheap win, but I'll still take it

[Jake from State Farm]

Keyser is at L-2 btw.

[Jake from State Farm]

Glad we had this conversation. It was very productive

[Jake from State Farm]

Probably because Jake is kind of being an odd one. I am kinda thinking his insane troll logic is actually a scum tell from him.

There's no insane troll logic at all. There is NO WAY you read the posts in the replacement que and didn't know who got replaced cause the mod quoted his post about keyser and he said he still needed one for lhix and those were the only 2 people needing replacement since you took the other one.

This means that the mod made a post somewhere else and it confused you. Since he didn't post here, it has to be in the Mafia private topic. Most people already believe that keyser and lhix are scum given lhix's earlier post so this theory of mine is pretty good.

Your only attempt to save yourself is to now try and discredit me, but anyone with half a brain can read all the evidence and come to the same conclusion I did.

I'm sorry your team got fucked.

[Jake from State Farm]

Ok After looking at linx I looked through some of his games and in each one he was in he calls out that he is scum and I think he calls out a apparent scum buddy. I don't think his ban is tied down to one game in general.

Was he scum in those games?

[Jake from State Farm]

Wait...
Is this game like....ruined?
By ruined I mean like the integrity in this game was destroyed....

I honestly think it is. I think the mod doesn't know what to do and probably doesn't want to have to abandon his game.


@aninem - the slot isn't vacant yet and the elephant in the room says we lynch one of kling or lhix today otherwise we look like complete idiots if that's the actual scum team. If kling flips town, then we can figure things out but I'm not voting anyone else out of those 2

[Jake from State Farm]

This game is ridiculous, but I think the fact that it hasn't been called means it's not as simple as everyone thinks it is.

I mean it's possible I guess but I think fire's slip pretty much seals the deal for me. At least for day 1 anyway. A town flip on kling obviously changes things.

[Jake from State Farm]

soft claims don't mean shit. If he claims something I will analyze it and determine if I believe it or not but nothing from that slot reads PR to me so yes I will probably still want to lynch him. why keyser first? cause he is at L-2 and his slot isn't vacant. If people would rather lynch lhix that's fine with me but lhix has I think 1 vote on him.

which reminds me

mod can we please get an updated VC, the last VC you posted was in post 573 and it was you just quoting the VC in 523 and it wasn't an accurate vote count.

Thank you

[Jake from State Farm]

but lhix isn't here at all and a repalcement is still pending. I'd rather lynch the person who is actually in the game and can actually claim when he's put at L-1.

[Jake from State Farm]

i'm ok with fire also given the scum slip

[Jake from State Farm]

Mod, the numbers next to the names don't match to the number of votes.

[Jake from State Farm]

Nothing else explains your post. Your own explanation doesn't even explain it. The post you say the mod made in the replacement que is very clear who kling replaced so your question obviously came from a mod post somewhere else not public to the uninformed majority

[Jake from State Farm]

vote firebringer

Scum slips happen, sucks for you

[Jake from State Farm]

Don't worry, I will.

[Jake from State Farm]

I'll wonder how bad of a reader you must have been cause the post you claimed to have read clearly shows who kling was replacing.

But we already know kling/lhix are scum so it makes sense you read it in your private topic.

[Jake from State Farm]

Basically, except I'm pretty sure kling/lhix is scum already.

Him not admitting his mistake and instead trying to discredit me doesn't help either. If he just misread the mods post, he would have corrected himself but he didn't do that.

[Jake from State Farm]

Mod says Kling replaces someone, never posts who Kling replaces >.>

Then show me where the mod posted that kling replaced in but didn't say who he replaced.

[Jake from State Farm]

I feel bad for not contributing more to this discussion, but this is such anti-climatic scumcatch / game result. So I'm spinning in circles waiting for the replacements.
I just don't want it to be true. I'm not going to argue against it in the absence of evidence, but ugh, boring.

And that's the issue everyone is having. People don't want to think its this easy or whatever so they want to make it difficult. Unfortunately the correct lynch today is one of those 3 people. We need a flip. If we get a town flip I'll admit I was wrong but I really don't think I am

[Jake from State Farm]

Anyways I've said my peace, y'all can do whatever you want.

[Jake from State Farm]

Hi, I'm here.

Please remove your votes for me until I have a chance to catch up and redeem my slot, thanks.

Nobody needs to unvote for you to catchup.

[Jake from State Farm]

No they don't

[Jake from State Farm]

Cause that's what I wanted to do

[Jake from State Farm]

These were back to back. So if you aren't scum, and you truly got that info from the replacement thread, you must be dumber then dumb right?

What? How does that make sense. I am asking the mod a legit question and somehow you turn it into a scum slip.

The mod quoted his post asking for a replacement for keyser when he said it was filled by kling. That means kling replaced keyser obviously. He also says he needs one for lhix.

Since the post RIGHT BEFORE that one, the mod says he needs 2 replacements. There is no way you got confused.


I think mod posted in your private topic, he didn't say who he replaced and you came here looking and was confused. Now you are scrambling to make yourself look better but nothing you can do will make up for the fact there is NO WAY you could be confused by who kling replaced.


I love how things work out in our favor

No, Yimmy had me replacing someone else, FA I think, then Fire replaced her too. Yimmy finally corrected himself saying that he used one of the replacement needed posts as a template. I was watching that thread myself after volunteering to replace in.

So you're wrong, Jake.

Ok so you really want me to embarrass you right now?

Fine let's do it.

Mod posts in thread that fire is replacing in on 11/30 at 1:22 pm
Fire posts in thread same day at 1:23 pm
Mod posts in replacement que that he filled the FA slot and still needed one for keyser and lhix at 1:40 that same day (thus proving your explanation you just posted is false)
Mod edits OP at 9:45 pm (per timestamp) to replace keyser with kling on the player list
Mod posts in replacement thread at 9:46 pm that kling replaced keyser but never posts that in the game thread (that's more then 8 hours so no way mod had both of you taking the FA slot)
Mod officially announces kling replacing keyser on 12/1 at 12:00 pm

Nice try kling, but no I'm not wrong at all. Im 100% accurate

[Jake from State Farm]

Oh I knew that was coming.

[Jake from State Farm]

You, fire, and suzune are scum, Haven't you been paying attention?

Riddle me this batman. How can you say I haven't sId anything yet I've named the entire scum team? Obviously I've said something...

[Jake from State Farm]

You, fire, and suzune are scum, Haven't you been paying attention?

Riddle me this batman. How can you say I haven't sId anything yet I've named the entire scum team? Obviously I've said something...

If you named the entire Scum team, then what's with "You, fire, and suzune are scum"?

I'm not Scum. I'm pretty sure there's Scum on my wagon and right now you are the best choice.

That's the entire scum team obviously

[Jake from State Farm]

If you say someones logic is valid, then I don't know how you can say that they are also wrong.

And you are the one insulting other people's intelligence?

A person can use good logic and still be wrong. If you don't realize that You need to play this game more because logical arguments are proven false all the time.

Also, please stop insulting people.

[Jake from State Farm]

Last part I like too "caught scum for wrong reason and Fire panicked" lol, that is so silly

Glad you find humor in the truth

[Jake from State Farm]

This is true but if this is why Firebringer is annoyed then it tells us that Jake's argument is probably wrong.

Incorrect. If I was wrong, fire would have admitted he made a mistake or misread the mods post. He didn't do that, instead he argued that I'm somehow wrong when there is no way he read any public mod post about the situation and got confused as to who kling replaced.

[Jake from State Farm]

And you are the one insulting other people's intelligence?

A person can use good logic and still be wrong. If you don't realize that You need to play this game more because logical arguments are proven false all the time.

Also, please stop insulting people.

Insulting people, is like 99% of what I do.

It's also against game and site rules so every insult you post will result in me clicking the report button.

[Jake from State Farm]

You are wrong and I proved you are wrong. Continued denial of this just strengthens the evidence that you are scum.

P.edit - follow the rules or gtfo

[Jake from State Farm]

Pretty much all I have done. Me calling anyone stupid is just an extension of calling their play bad. You reporting is just excessively going overboard and making false claims.

Sorry but calling somebody a moron is not an attack on their play, it's a personal attack on their intelligence as a person. Now you may not have meant it that way and you meant to attack their play (which wasn't bad by any means) you did cross a line that you should not have crossed.

[Jake from State Farm]

Mod says Kling replaces someone, never posts who Kling replaces >.>

let's get down to business here. The above quoted post from fire is a true fire scumslip BECAUSE the mod never made any such post in any public thread and certainly not in this game thread.

There are only 2 possible situations that I can see to explain this.

1. Fire made a mistake and just misread something (which he has denied doing)
2. The post was made in a private forum


Let's do this already, this game is being way more difficult then it has to be

p.edit - he scum slipped bro

[Jake from State Farm]

He did in the replacement forum.

I checked and read it.

It's very clear who he's replacing in the replacement forum. Try again

[Jake from State Farm]

Also since it has been less then twenty four hours sense I joined this game. How am I scum?

not sure why you think the amount of time you have been in this game has anything to do with what your predecessor has done. It's what he did that confirmed your slot as scum.

It's really a shame you got such a raw deal

[Jake from State Farm]

@Aneninen

Mathilda or fire is probably the last scum.

I'm townreading Jake, RC and Input.

We haven't lynched even one mafia and you already say you found the last scum...
Just

We already know 2 scum, if you are town pay attention. Oh that's right you aren't. Carry on

[Jake from State Farm]

We already know 2 scum, if you are town pay attention. Oh that's right you aren't. Carry on

How many pages are you going to just reply to my posts with "you are scum"

Until you are lynched

[Jake from State Farm]

Yes, of course. People are not longer thinking, just blindly saying such and such is town or scum.

You realize people came to these conclusions by thinking right? That's how I came to the list of 3 scum, that plus analyzing their posts. Stop trying to imply people aren't thinking just cause you are the new kid who replaced into a bad slot

[Jake from State Farm]

Kind of an anti-town strategy there Jake. It means you are closing yourself off from hearing the opinions of others and listening, rather being stuck in your mindset. Which does not help anyone except the scum who can capitalise from it.

p-edit, I happen to think that just repeating yourself over and over hardly makes for a case. Conversation and discussion forms opinions or have you never been tricked before?

Yeah I don't really need your opinion about my play thanks, even if you weren't scum I wouldn't need it. If people would get their heads out of their asses and get over this whole "it can't be this easy" fear they have, they would see what I see.

[Jake from State Farm]

Math, are you sure you are reading this game? Like nothing about what you said about me is true.

[Jake from State Farm]

Math, are you sure you are reading this game? Like nothing about what you said about me is true.

Ok just looked up the definition of active lurking. I'll say that yes I'm guilty of that. That is mainly cause for me to play differently then I normally play, I have to basically not do anything. Once I make my mind up on scum, the wheels fall off and people get annoyed at my tunneling. So yea, I'm active lurking on purpose. Though the longer this day phase goes on, the harder it is to ignore all the shit being posted. This day needs to end, people should really just sheep me if they know what's good for them. I'm very good at finding scum.

[Jake from State Farm]

There seems to be a post missing as well.

Since yimmy can't delete posts in that thread, there is no missing post.

It's very simple. Read the post that says you replaced. It's very clear who you replaced. You weren't confused, nobody reading that post should be confused. Hell, I asked my 13 year old son and 11 year old daughter and they weren't even confused.

I appreciate you trying to cover for your buddy and all but I'm not buying what either of you are selling.


Here's the post where the mod announces you replaced in. FA was already crossed out, plus the post before this one says that FA was replaced. There was only 2 other people needing replacement and the mod says he still needs one for lhix.

25th November -

Mini 1741

Moderator:

Yimmy

Status:

Day 1, 16 pages

Replacing:

Frozen Angel

I also require a replacement for Keyser söze

Filled, thanks KlingonCelt. Only TheLhix is left.

[Jake from State Farm]

Are U a Titus alt?

Is Titus a Jake from State Farm alt...

No, Im not a Titus alt.

[Jake from State Farm]

Look, it's pointless to argue with me over this kling. Nobody else thinks it's an issue or else fire would be lynched already. If fire is town and truly got confused, I'll scratch my head and wonder how it was possible for him to be that confused and not even admit he read it wrong. Oh and I'll apologize. But trying to tell me I'm wrong when based on the facts available, I'm clearly not is just causing an unnecessary distraction. My scum reads are what they are and will only change if one of them flip town. Until then, they ain't changing.

[Jake from State Farm]

Sure...

[Jake from State Farm]

Why is RC in the right pile?

I don't understand the question.

Really?

@rc- it's cause your last post you took their side and came to their defense about the whole mod post thing.

[Jake from State Farm]

Is English not your native language?

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm looking through my history all in one place and I'm starting to marvel at the amount of games where I called scum and was ignored.

Welcome to my world

[Jake from State Farm]

Welcome to my world

Timestamps just isn't a compelling case.
Give me something based on not-timestamps and I'll believe what you're selling. Right now I (and probably some others) have written off your crusade because of the single point of evidence. So if you really want to convince everybody you're right, sell us on another aspect of it.

omg it isn't even about time stamps

he said the mod made a post that the mod never actually made. So either the mod posted in a private topic OR the mod's post got deleted.

Which one is more likely? certainly not the one about getting deleted since the mod doesn't even have the rights to delete posts from the replacement que.

but whatever, when the game is over and it is revealed these 3 are scum, just give me the credit for catching fire because I don't think FA would have been lynched as she did come off as townie. Though if you do look at her posts around the time keyser was getting votes I could see her reactions coming from a buddy.

[Jake from State Farm]

well technically my reason doesn't have to do with a replacement que post, since there was no post in the replacement que that would explain why fire asked the quetsion...

but I get your point, you want me to point to something game related. How about his blatant buddying to garmr? or the fact he placed a "place holder" vote on the largest wagon and said he would change it once he made a catchup post (which he hasn't really done yet)

or you want me to go back to FA? The only thing that stands out was I felt her reaction to keyser getting run up was weird, she also said she would start scum hunting when a serious wagon started but that didn't happen. Given that I think she is scum with lhix, there are posts made towards lhix that sort of look like coaching or advice to a partner.

Keyeser lurked/replaced out as the leading vote getter and his reaction to lhix's claim they are scum together was very weird, too weird for it not to be true. If anyone was town in that position there would have been a bigger reaction.

so lhix/keyser really make sense for scum, fire makes sense given recent posts and how it seems like they are all on the same side like they are defending each other for self preservation.


that's all I got. Lynch any of the keyser/lhix/FA slots and I am pretty sure they will yield scum.

[Jake from State Farm]

Can we lynch fire now?

[Jake from State Farm]

Look, I literally don't understand how anyone gets a scumread on Adenine here.

He's basically the most towny I've seen him since 1595.

I agree

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: fire

withholding my comments about the no lynch. Can people sheep me now?

[Jake from State Farm]

zulfy, I am confused why you think either of those things you have for me are scummy. they aren't

[Jake from State Farm]

I think some deadline reminders would be nice, mod.

completely agree. I just noticed that the VCs didn't contain the deadline. I always thought that was a requirement.

mod in the future can you please put the deadline in the vote count so it doesn't sneak up on us? Thanks

[Jake from State Farm]

1. I can't believe you really want me to cover this again but I will in the most simplest form since the long winded ones have already been rehashed a bunch but first
2. Answer my question

[Jake from State Farm]

That was directed to zulfy

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: kling

Fire won't happen til kling and suz flip so let's do it

[Jake from State Farm]

So what did you think the big bold date and countdown at the top of every votecount was, then?

you know what? I never actually saw them for some reason. my bad

[Jake from State Farm]

oh I guess I didn't frame it as a form of a question, but was kind of hoping you would have read it and expanded on it and explained. so ok explain why you find 2 non scummy things scummy please.

[Jake from State Farm]

short summary (or as best as I can)

fire said mod made a post that announced kling repleaced somebody but didn't say who he replaced, problem is the mod never made any post (at least not publicly)

Since I already thought keyser and lhix are scum together (as do others) what I think happened is the mod made a post in the mafia private topic that kling was now added to the private topic. Fire being confused who he replaced probably came to the game thread looking and didn't find an answer made the statement in the thread.

He tried to cover his tracks by pointing to a post in the replacement que that isn't there. The only people who claim to have seen this post is fire and kling. Originally RC was on their side but later publicly announced that he wasn't anymore.

So I still firmly believe that A. the mod did make a post, but it was in the mafia private topic and B. the scum team is Kling/Fire/Suzun

[Jake from State Farm]

[Jake from State Farm]

Well if Kling is scum then so is Suzune

I kind of don't see how those two things are connected.

Because lhix said they were scum together. Unless lhix is the luckiest guesser ever.

[Jake from State Farm]

Oh yes that makes sense...because I have never seen a hider claim that has been true on mafiascum. It is one of the most common covers ever because no one wastes an ability on them since they cannot be hit.

I've seen 3 between all my alts, seen 1 scum hider also

[Jake from State Farm]

Ok, just saying I've see 3 legit claims

[Jake from State Farm]

Doubting the claim doesn't make you scum. Your predecessor claiming scum makes you scum.

[Jake from State Farm]

Ignore that, your predecessor and you haven't done anything that resembles town

[Jake from State Farm]

Reading isn't your strong suit

[Jake from State Farm]

We talked and talked for an entire day phase, people made cases for others but they never got traction cause the cases weren't good. We need a flip, right or wrong the flip needs to be keyser slot or yours. We need data to analyze and wasting another day phase rehashing this shit isn't helpful.

[Jake from State Farm]

For that to happen I'd have to have access to the Scum PT. I do not.

So you say

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm down for a train on suzune.

vote: suzune

[Jake from State Farm]

Unofficial VC

Kling has 3
Suzune has 3

You're welcome

[Jake from State Farm]

idk about that

[Jake from State Farm]

that's because it doesn't matter which one of these 2 get lynched.

[Jake from State Farm]

Well actually 2

[Jake from State Farm]

Suzune went from 0 votes to 4. That's not a two vote shift.
When a train at L-2 is suddenly exceeded by a zero vote train, that's kinda

Kling was at 4 votes first and that didn't seem to bother you. Why not?

[Jake from State Farm]

In fact kling went from 0 to 4 votes in under 2 hours, it took suzune much longer to reach the same point

Yet no outrage

[Jake from State Farm]

detail why that bothered me, but I couldn't put it into words right. A combination of gut and dislike of the InputPrimary slot. Something just strikes me as really off, and I can't figure out what. Sorry I couldn't be more insightful about it. My gut doesn't like things.

But IP had been voting before the vote shift so your suspicion of him and the vote shift don't correlate imo.

[Jake from State Farm]

Nvm I fail at reading.

[Jake from State Farm]

The thing is though , both are probably scum and we need a flip to sort it out.

Until we get 1 of these guys flipped, I can't think about scum outside this group. My mind won't let me.

[Jake from State Farm]

Normally bussing would be the ideal play, but if they know a scum flip means the other gets rope the next day, they want to keep that from happening.

Besides I think they each sort of find each other scummy in some way, at least from what I remember

[Jake from State Farm]

We can worry about fire later. I'll let him stew on the back burner. I really want to see a flip from 1 of the other 2 though.

[Jake from State Farm]

One would think that you guys did not like me or something.

Pretty sure we covered this already. It has nothing to do with you personally. Payers who claim scum with their partners apparently get banned and your predecessor got banned. I don't think it's coincidence at all.


I will say that your play since coming in still doesn't impress me. I'll read the rest of this post now but really its you or kling today

[Jake from State Farm]

Facepalming sarcasm = me calling it Scummy.

Yeah that definitely needed explaining cause the natural response is to think you just dislike it or think it's stupid. Most people wouldn't use to imply scummy

[Jake from State Farm]

Personally if I was most confident about Fire then I'd vote Fire. If we do lynch either Klingoncelt or Suzune, aren't we then just going to lynch the other one as well in most cases?

You would vote fire knowing nobody else will? Doubtful.

The other only gets lynched with a scum flip, a town flip means lhix was trolling in another way

[Jake from State Farm]

well i can't speak for others but a town flip on one means the other probably isn't scum. I still would rather lynch the keyser slot first as I felt his reactions were weird with regard to the claim but people don't seem to be down for it so suzune is the compromise. I feel that it doesn't really matter what i think, this day is going to drag on until the deadline before we decide on somebody which means my level of cares will be near 0. There is no fucking need to drag this day on for 2 weeks

[Jake from State Farm]

Why would scum kill you?

[Jake from State Farm]

I thought about things at work also. Keyser slot needs rope first. It would be swell to get this wrapped up by the weekend

vote kling

P. Edit -ok you convinced me

[Jake from State Farm]

Nobody believed your vig claim. Vig claims are numb on this site cause that's the number one unprompted fake role claim on the site

[Jake from State Farm]

I didn't see your explanation, or missed it. Let me go look

[Jake from State Farm]

Jake, regarding your "score", both things seem to me like you're trying too hard to seem apathetic about what people think about you, which I guess people think is what town acts like but yours seems forced, hence scummy. Scummy enough to go on my scoreboard at least.

Trying too hard? Well obviously I disagree but then again I guess that's better then not trying hard enough right zulfy? Cause let's be real, +1'ing posts but really making it useful to yourself or anyone else is not trying hard enough. I mean I probably top your scoreboard at this point yet you still talk to me like I'm town

[Jake from State Farm]

But not really *

[Jake from State Farm]

And Zulfy's insistence that he's the choice for NK, you're gonna tell me that sounds Towny?

How is it scummy? Sure he did something not smart by claiming vig but based on that he thought he was going gone nk'd. I like that fire is bussing you, that is progress

[Jake from State Farm]

Investigatives are generally supposed to keep their results quiet until they have 2 guilties, until they're at L-1, or until they're CC'd. (The problem with this is that the investigators are often NK'd before they can spill the beans.)

lol no

[Jake from State Farm]

Hider's are non-normal (not white listed), right?

I don't think it's on the whitelist but that doesn't mean it can't be included in a normal game.

[Jake from State Farm]

Idk. I'm modding a game and don't know all the rules lol

Anyway we can worry about his claim later, he's not the lynch today

[Jake from State Farm]

So... is Scorp getting replaced?

Mod has posted in the replacement thread looking for one

[Jake from State Farm]

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: suzune

[Jake from State Farm]

Elyse confirmed town

Was there any doubt?

Last scum are suzune and fire

[Jake from State Farm]

Yes I agree that the mod should have rerolled or something. Now of course lhix could be town and just got really lucky, keyser's reaction says that's not the case.

Hopefully people reliable fire did actually scumslip like I said.

[Jake from State Farm]

You did?

[Jake from State Farm]

This game should of been over when linx outed her scum buddies you can tell by keysers reaction that the modding was really poor I bet all his messages to the mod were ignored for some reason. Even if town were to miss some other clues to linxs other scum buddy which I assume were in there.(assuming linx is scum) Through it's not the mods fault that linx fucked over the game the mods poor handling did not help. l think a reshuffle into a open set up would of been better but yeh oh well. I can really emphasize with the scum this game at least it's a easy win for me a townie.

Why no vote?

[Jake from State Farm]

Math, why does he need to point that out?

[Jake from State Farm]

not sure how but ok... anyways he is confirmed town by poe. scum team is suzune and fire

[Jake from State Farm]

He could have been throwing himself and two other townies under a bus.

if keyer's slot didn't filp scum than maybe you have a point, but keyser's slot flipped scum. So imo it's either A. they are scum together or B. he got lucky as shit

I'm going with option A

[Jake from State Farm]

[Jake from State Farm]

you guys are no fun lol

[Jake from State Farm]

well after she scum slipped her motivation kind of deflated her

[Jake from State Farm]

P sure

[Jake from State Farm]

Yes it was

[Jake from State Farm]

If you are town some final words/thoughts please

[Jake from State Farm]

I can't believe fire is town. Some schenanigans obviously. I also find it odd based on site history that zulfy is an unlimited hider. Excluding really old games almost every hider has some sort of limitation to it. Will have to do some rereading to figure out who the last scum is if it's not fire.

[Jake from State Farm]

No time today. Too busy

[Jake from State Farm]

Found a setup with unlimited hider, 1 shot bp, plus 1 other role vs 3 goons and Mafia won. It's a good chance it's a similar setup to that. Other setups with limited hider had way more power so unlikely it's that.

I'm guessing its just 3 goons.

[Jake from State Farm]

Reason was good, had no idea you aren't very good at reading.

[Jake from State Farm]

So the exact same setup as one already run? I didn't think that was allowed as I was told I couldn't run a setup once cause it was identical to one already. Weird

vote: garmr

[Jake from State Farm]

lol at your edits but yes, I hate to say it but mod should have ended the game or something