Mini 1769: Ice Cream Mafia - Game over!

[Boonskiies]

I'm so jazzed.

It's BBT!! Long time no see!

Golden Rob and mn were pinging my scumdar pretty hard. Like...ahh...I can handle mn's playstyle and attitude, but the way he reacts and brings up Golden Rob's slot seems like buddy to me.

On a side note of that, holy Keyscum Soze.

I'm liking TTH; I'm happy to town read her.

[Boonskiies]

I can't read Kain. None of what he does makes any sense. It's annoying to deal with.

[Boonskiies]

@golden - I'm realizing that you are one of the people I find naturally scummy, so I'm trying to deal with that. If it helps, it's only an association from mn, and I don't care too much to push for association reads on day 1. I'll post more later. Working.

[Boonskiies]

I need to catch up on around 6 pages still.

[Boonskiies]

I replaced in a few days ago, Thor. Still not caught up yet, and my scum read is Keyser.

[Boonskiies]

Meh. Why not?

VOTE: Keyser

If I'm the wagon, you guys don't have to worry about me hammering.

[Boonskiies]

Thor, please town up that slot...haha.

[Boonskiies]

Point in case:

Meh. Why not?

VOTE: Keyser

Boonskiies has followed your anti-town roleclaim plan. This tells me nothing. Is Boonkiies opportunistic scum or a blind sheep?

I would rather Boonskiies present why he thinks I am scum.

Looks like you've just gotten irritated that you are caught out as scum and really don't have many reasons why. That in itself is pretty damning.

[Boonskiies]

And immediately after, you target GuyFawkes, who was just tied with 2nd biggest wagon a couple of pages back. Easy wagon to manipulate onto.

[Boonskiies]

Thank you for being town, Thor.

<3 Ever since Masquerade Large game I have enjoyed playing with you, and find it easier not to question your alignment until later.

[Boonskiies]

@Ircher - this is massive every game, regardless of alignment. I even have modded some games and he does that. it's just massive.

[Boonskiies]

I'm town reading Ircher. I get in his position a lot. The main wagon is formed early game, and he strongly town reads that person. I feel I've done the same thing that Ircher is doing to Keyser, to Thor multiple times. I always defend Thor for some reason...strange. Anywho, Ircher seems to just be tunneling on TownKeyser because the wagon is forming fast.

[Boonskiies]

I have a paranoia of TTH, but I don't want to delve into that right now. Nothing she's doing is scummy to me or anything. I actually like her input. I'm just....aaah. I never know how to deal with her.

[Boonskiies]

I AM FEELING SAD ABOUT THIS GAME,, NOBODY LISTENING TO ME WHEN I SAY THERE IS PROBABLY 2 SCUM WITHIN THIS GROUP:

KEYser, Aquanim, OCEANWIND and TELL TALE HEART....

It's probably Keyser and TTH.

[Boonskiies]

YOU ARE MAKING ME VERY ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM TELLING THE TRUTH CAN YOU ALL JUST BELIEVE ME??????????????

I AM TOWN AND I AM NOT A TROLL!!!!!! IF YOU SPEND MORE TIME TRYING TO LOOK AT SUSPICIOUS PEOPLE LIKE OCEANWIND AND AQUANIM THEN MAYBE YOU WILL FIND SCUM FASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AFTER NIGHT 1 I WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO GIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you'd be much less annoying if you wouldn't talk in all caps. Actually, I'm going to challenge you to something now. No caps at all. Type in all lowercase. the point will still get across. I promise you.

[Boonskiies]

I AM FEELING SAD ABOUT THIS GAME,, NOBODY LISTENING TO ME WHEN I SAY THERE IS PROBABLY 2 SCUM WITHIN THIS GROUP:

KEYser, Aquanim, OCEANWIND and TELL TALE HEART....

It's probably Keyser and TTH.

You're really going to do this?

Nah, I'm down to lynch Kain with you if you want.

[Boonskiies]

I feel like I'm coming off as either really bitchy or scummy when I go after Kain, but whatever. It is what it is.

I only have a paranoia of you. I wouldn't push you until flips happened, which could just make me town read you.

[Boonskiies]

He's not a troll, but he is a bumbling fool.

[Boonskiies]

I see nothing wrong with Thor's play.

massive - I hate having gut reads, and that's all that TTH is for me right now.

I'm down to lynch Kain, though.

I don't get keyser's stance still. Just because someone's pushing for your lynch, the game is unbearable?

[Boonskiies]

I am lean town on aqua

[Boonskiies]

[quote="In post 481,

Golden Rob and mn were pinging my scumdar pretty hard. Like...ahh...I can handle mn's playstyle and attitude, but the way he reacts and brings up Golden Rob's slot seems like buddy to me.

On a side note of that, holy Keyscum Soze.

[/quote]


@Keyser - my first post in game.

these were my scum reads then.

I also townread TTH on my initial replace in skim through.

[Boonskiies]

Golden Rob and mn were pinging my scumdar pretty hard. Like...ahh...I can handle mn's playstyle and attitude, but the way he reacts and brings up Golden Rob's slot seems like buddy to me.

On a side note of that, holy Keyscum Soze.

fixed quote.

[Boonskiies]

i'll allow you to skip the write-up; i'm town af.

[Boonskiies]

I mean, if you look at some of my more recent posts regarding Kain, it's pretty obvious that I just find him a bumbling fool and I'll lynch. I won't push for the lynch, but yeah.

Also, you know I am Phoenix Wright's slot, right?

[Boonskiies]

Also, this is Town BBT....he's just not active. Like holy fuck.

[Boonskiies]

The second BBT pops up, it's going to be super obvious how town he is, yet you bumble bees will probably make up reasons to want to push him.

[Boonskiies]

Kain's posts actually make me avoid reading his posts. Except when I do, I imagine his voice high pitch, whiny, and the capped words he adds a grunty squeal to it.

[Boonskiies]

What's the case on Ircher? I'm trying not to do pre-flip associations, but I'm putting all my thoughts together for tomorrow for both sides, depending if Keyser's flips scum or town. I'm leaning more towards the scum, but it's day 1. Large room for error. I despise day 1's, not my strongest day. I really have no clue what to try and analyze until after.

[Boonskiies]

Mm...I believe Ircher's just generally inactive right now. He's a newer player who's just taking a stance.

[Boonskiies]

I should probably meta dive him. My last game with him he tended to sheep everywhere.

[Boonskiies]

Eh, if Keyser is scum I'd like to flip Ircher sooner rather than later, but if Keyser flips town I don't have any real issue with Ircher at all.

This is my big reason why I feel Keyser should definitely be the lynch toDay. Actual scum reading, although I agree with BBT on the looking more town recenty, unfortunately because we have 3 days left, but if we get a town flip we get a lot of information, even for a Day 1 lynch. I believe information is the most important part of a Day 1 lynch, which is why I will basically end any Day 1 if I get the chance, unless I'm positive they are town.

[Boonskiies]

I just want Day 1 to be over.

[Boonskiies]

Yes. He was talking about me. He drove me to work. I don't currently have a car.

[Boonskiies]

671 - Fuckkkkkkkk, this looks so town. This reminds me so much of how I first felt about Thor when I started playing with him.

To be fair, Thor can be annoying if you are scum and he's doing the same thing.

[Boonskiies]

Boon, you look like scum to me.

Ease my concerns.

Can we wait a day or two? Haha.

[Boonskiies]

It would be easy to feign frustration a la Keyser by using Thor.

[Boonskiies]

I may do one of my famous Boonskiies Color Wheel soon. Depends how much ISO'ing I want to delve into.

[Boonskiies]

I always town read you. Unfortunately, I've lost the ObvTown aspect to it, but I have no doubt that I'll know your alignment by Day 3. I'll get to Guy Fawkes soon. maybe when I get batteries for my mouse.

[Boonskiies]

Composition? It's me, you, thor, and guyfawkes.

[Boonskiies]

The composition of the wagon is one of the things that make me feel

most

comfortable about it.

[Boonskiies]

Titus/massive lynch would give near to no information.

[Boonskiies]

And immediately after, you target GuyFawkes, who was just tied with 2nd biggest wagon a couple of pages back. Easy wagon to manipulate onto.

This says what I feel about Guy.

[Boonskiies]

I'm not town reading Guy off of his own actions. He's a scum fuck. But Day 1 it's really easy to seem like a scum fuck. He's not someone I'd like to Day 1 lynch; no info really comes from that in the chance he wouldn't flip scum. Keyser has a good chance of flipping scum, and if he flipped town, there are loads of info tells.

[Boonskiies]

You can lynch me tomorrow if you want if you continue this ScumSkiies push.

[Boonskiies]

If I'm scum, you'll catch me later in game regardless. You always do.

[Boonskiies]

Don't want to lynch BlueBloodedToffee anymore.

UNVOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

Classic move.

He's trying to get you off his wagon. Next thing you know, Keyser's going to hard tunnel me.

[Boonskiies]

Like, wow. That makes me want Keyser lynched even more.

[Boonskiies]

Keyser realizes that Keyser was sitting on top of BBT's lynch list, right?

[Boonskiies]

Keyser realizes that Keyser was sitting on top of BBT's lynch list, right?

Disregard this. It meant to go a long time ago.

[Boonskiies]

Regardless, that is inactive. I didn't say there wasn't a good reason for it. I get it. I'm a full time student with a job along with being a theatre major so I have rehearsals during certain times of the year, i get inactive sometimes too. Nonetheless, not posting as much is inactivity.

Also, I don't understand the defense of that statement; I was defending you, and telling people to not base their reads off of your activity.

[Boonskiies]

Also, your join date is my birthday. Been wanting to say that for a while now.

[Boonskiies]

He didn't. I said that. BBT is the centerpiece of games when he's active. He doesn't stop talking. So much growth from that first game we played together, BBT. <3

[Boonskiies]

That GuyFawkes push....

[Boonskiies]

These are all from the same game. I don't have a mouse right now, so that's all I feel like doing. I was town this game. I just picked a random town game of mine where I knew I was active Day 1.

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2
3
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[Boonskiies]

Here's a good one.

BTW this is all to slandaar regarding the info as me being town.

[Boonskiies]

Exactly what I was asked to bring here.

Here it was 'obviously'

[Boonskiies]

Ugh. I really don't like this Guy wagon, actually. It seems like such a scum driven counter wagon. Keyser is by far the better lynch today. I feel we are lynching Guy based off of lack of activity, and not lynching Keyser because of an abundance of activity. ACTIVITY IS NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE. Others are just being extra active. Let's please not lynch, Guy.

[Boonskiies]

And Keyser continually misreps Thor. This is a blatant redirecting, lead by hmm....who? Keyser.

[Boonskiies]

I am now suspect of Boon for his posts this page

You're 'suspect' because I am fucking trying to push the wagon that I have been voting for A LONG TIME now? Seriously? What the fuck is scummy about that? What the fuck is scummy about me actually fucking giving my fucking input? You guys fucking beg for me to actually say something, and here I am. Saying what I think is happening.

@Keyser - I don't give a fuck if you are town reading Thor; that's not what I was saying. At all. So nice misrep of me. Thor and myself are both people pushing your wagon, so by you misrepping us there, you are pulling attention away from your wagon, which isn't a bad thing on your part. It's great scum play. Nonetheless, scum play.

[Boonskiies]

I SUSPECT, AQUANIM AND TELLTALE,,

I SUSPECTED KEYSER IN THE PAST, BUT NOW A BIT LESS BECAUSE HE IS LESS TUNNELLY, MORE WILLING TO ENGAGE,,

BUT I SEMI TOWN READ GUYFAWKES AND DONT WANT OT VOTE HIM..........

NEED TO THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CANYOU ALL EXPLAIN AGAIN, IN SHORT SIMPLE SENTENCES, WHY VOTING THE TWO??

KeyScum had a wagon on him, so he faught for anything to stick, and hardpushed Guy to get a counterwagon going so he wouldn't be lynched. He's manipulating the town with it.

[Boonskiies]

How the fuck is that confirmation bias at all?

[Boonskiies]

Explain, Ircher.

[Boonskiies]

He's manipulating so he doesn't get lynched, Kain. Long posts and engaged in the game isn't really alignment indicative. I've seen, and performed, scum where there were the most posts in the entire game. I actually find it easier to stay focused and 'scum hunt' as scum.

[Boonskiies]

Vig Shot: Ircher

Done with that.

[Boonskiies]

I really wish that shot was real. Like holy fuck.

I did think about Town Keyser. I'm not disrupting everything he says. I was nearing unvote status. If you'd actually read, you'd understand that.


@Kain - Keyser is going to be lynched eventually, it would be a waste of a shot. I'm not actually a day vig, though, so it doesn't matter.


Also, you are allowed to have 1 non normal role in a Mini Normal. I've been a day vig in a normal game before.

[Boonskiies]

I'm not interested in your lynch, yet, but you are sorely tempting me.

I don't really get lynched, and that will not go through. I don't understand why you think I can't handle a little pressure. This is also super scummy of you to say. Like holy fuck.

[Boonskiies]

i am CONFUSED... if you are NEARING UNVOTE STATUS,, then why would you tell me he is MANIPULATING THE TOWN as if you are sure?? it shows that you are not sure in REALITY??

I'm part of the town. I almost let him manipulate me. I

was

nearing. Not now. I was nearing around the BBT-Keyser talk for a bit.

[Boonskiies]

Vig Shot: Ircher

Done with that.

I'm the last person town would want to shoot

, but I doubt there is a dayvig (poor Kein)

I'm not interested in your lynch, yet, but you are sorely tempting me.

talk about conf bias.

[Boonskiies]

@Kain - I'm willing to work with you this game. Wasn't really earlier, but I'm starting to town read you, and I expect both of us to be in this game for the long run due to easy seeming potential mislynches.
Understand that we absolutely don't want a no lynch. We have a day left. No lynch denies town information, and does nothing but help scum have more confusion. Keyser is the optimal lynch even if he isn't one of your main scum reads. Unfortunately, bar some major slip, your main scum reads aren't going to be able to pick up steam for their lynch in a day and a half. Guy getting lynched would give us near to no information besides if he's town, Keyser's definitely scum. If we lynch Keyser, and he flips scum, that gives Guy major townie points unless we think Keyser would bus this hard (he wouldn't, not in this way.) With a Keyser lynch, we get TONS OF INFORMATION, even if he ends up flipping town. Guy has a lesser chance of being scum, and will bring us near to no info. Vote Keyser with us.

[Boonskiies]

@Ircher - my point exactly. My conf bias accusation has the same amount of accuracy as yours.

[Boonskiies]

I'm 21. See? I'm willing to open up to you, Kain. Let's be on the same side...

[Boonskiies]

I disagree with the next to last statement

[Boonskiies]

@Kain - We're the kind of players scum wants to get people to sheep them on and get lynches on. We generally won't be NK'd until we have to be. I generally am NK'd around Night 4 in all of my games.

[Boonskiies]

@Ircher - If we lynched Keyser toDay, he flips scum, who would you scum read?

[Boonskiies]

@Kain - We're the kind of players scum wants to get people to sheep them on and get lynches on. We generally won't be NK'd until we have to be. I generally am NK'd around Night 4 in all of my games.

Or maybe its cuz yall are idiots / easier to mislynch. That's normally the case for me too, but I'm actually somewhat worried about being nk'd this time.

I am not an easy mislynch. People have found that out the hard way.

[Boonskiies]

@Thor - Ircher feels like new scum trying to protect a buddy. This being said, I don't think Ircher is scum w/o Keyser also being scum.

[Boonskiies]

but I'm actually somewhat worried about being nk'd this time.

there is no reason for scum to NK you. There is far too many people who will most likely move on to you once Keyser's out of the way. If you are town, they'll see this argument and keep us both alive.

I don't expect to be NK'd unless Thor/BBT are scum, and even then, I defend them too much for them to warrant a NK on me. I have an odd way of personal bias in the early game of mafia.

[Boonskiies]

No lynching til I have time to analyze the last few pages

Keyser is in the lead, and he's at L-2, methinks you have some time yet.
Did you think he was at L-1 already?

I can count, ty vm

Were you expecting two people to hop on very quickly in the next few hours?

It is a possibility; again, I abs. hate lynches that don't go til deadline

Closer lynch is to the deadline more confusion mafia can stir up, a la Keyser with Guy.


@BBT - This is SUPER reminiscent of the Doctor Pepper game Day 1.

[Boonskiies]

@BBT - This is SUPER reminiscent of the Doctor Pepper game Day 1.

LOL, actually, if that were the case, that would make Ircher scum based on the standings of everyone!

(No, I am not using that as an actual thing, I just found it funny.)

[Boonskiies]

@Ircher - BBT/GuyFawkes.

[Boonskiies]

If he flips scum, I'm going for Ircher/pop.

[Boonskiies]

TTH I'll eventually figure out.

My reads will be subject to change based on night action stuff.

[Boonskiies]

@BBT - This is SUPER reminiscent of the Doctor Pepper game Day 1.

LOL, actually, if that were the case, that would make Ircher scum based on the standings of everyone!

(No, I am not using that as an actual thing, I just found it funny.)

I know you're joking, but care to explain?

There was a game a long time ago, where there was a GIANT 1 on 1 for the lead wagon, I believe we had the longest amount of pages for a Day 1 phase in mini normal history too, where BBT/Csareo (later Titus) were both like constantly neck and neck at L-2. Csareo was basically in Keyser's position. BBT in guy's. Everyone in the game had been picking a side, it wasn't happening at all. I was super hardcore defending Csareo, other people will hardcore defending BBT. We ended up having to all settle on some random person. Thing is, I was scum that game. With massive, actually. The familiarity of the Day 1 is just funny to me, and would paint you scum if it was an exact template. Will just be fun to look at post-game. I won as solo scum alive after a successful NK gambit that game. one of my prouder moments in Mafia.

[Boonskiies]

If he flips scum, I'm going for Ircher/pop.

Pop's the safer bet.

Again, the main case against me is an association case. I dont think one should lynch pn that alone

After a flip, an association case becomes quite valid I would think

- don't you try to assess who the scum seemed to really want lynched, in order to puzzle out other town, and who the scum seemed to defend in order to spot scumbuddies?

Why shouldn't we use associations?

A pretty damning association case.

@Thor - he says this like he already knows Keyser's flipping scum....

[Boonskiies]

I actually have a F2F mafia night tonight, so that should be fun (with BBmolla), so tonight I'll probably be in a really mafia mood, so I'll try and get my color wheel done there.

[Boonskiies]

I actually feel my reads list is pretty similar to Thor's, except Ircher is null, Kain town. I'll get to it, though. Color coded ness fun.

[Boonskiies]

Get

[Boonskiies]

The hell

[Boonskiies]

Off of Guy.

[Boonskiies]

You guys are blatantly being manipulated by Keyser. It's so fucking obvious.

[Boonskiies]

I feel it's the opposite. Ircher is only scum if keyser is, not the other way around.

[Boonskiies]

Alright, if KS & Thor believe in its validity, then I shall assume it is valid for now

UNVOTE: Guy
So, its basically no lynch or Keyser now? I want no lynch in that case

You 100% DO NOT no lynch. Lynching a VT that isn't confirmed and get INFORMATION!!!!! is 100% better than no lynching. No lynching helps nothing but scum. This is the scummiest thing you've said this game, holy crap. Lynching keyser will incriminate you and that is why you won't go there.

[Boonskiies]

I've lynched my biggest town read day1 to avoid no lynching Day 1. Guess what? Sometimes that person ended up being scum. (Looking at Thor).

[Boonskiies]

Titus, what makes you think I'm a mason?

I don't think it's wise to answer that. You know why.

So,

Either:

2 Scum
Titus/Guy Masons
Boon/Guy Masons

Anyone else see realize why this is super scummy?

Also, I was on board to somewhat lynch Guy earlier, so if you think we're masons, sure. whatever. Conf town me. Weren't you trying to lynch me earlier?

Ircher's the scummiest person in this game. If we can lynch him toDay, I'm down.

[Boonskiies]

Alright, if KS & Thor believe in its validity, then I shall assume it is valid for now

UNVOTE: Guy
So, its basically no lynch or Keyser now? I want no lynch in that case

You 100% DO NOT no lynch. Lynching a VT that isn't confirmed and get INFORMATION!!!!! is 100% better than no lynching. No lynching helps nothing but scum. This is the scummiest thing you've said this game, holy crap. Lynching keyser will incriminate you and that is why you won't go there.

Exactly

Basically, I'm stuck regardless what I do.

If I vote Keyser, I get accused of backing away from my townread / trying to garner towncred
If I don't vote Keyser, then I get accused of distancing myself from the Keyser lynch.

I can't vote Guy, as the mason claim is a possibility

And there's no other wagon that is going to be big enough by deadline

So, for me, as town, the best action is to no lynch. For me, as scum, the best action is to either bus keyser if keyser is scum or to vote Keyser anyway.

Your eval of the situ holds no weight, as regardless of my action, someone (scum) is going to paint it as scummy, and I will get mislynched for it later down the road.

False. It is much more towny if you would stop the no lynch and lynch keyser. I would have personally saw you townier because of it. You purposefully trying to no lynch is painting you scum.

[Boonskiies]

Also, stop talking about potential mason pairing. LIKE HOLY FUCK. This does nothing but benefit scum at this point. ALSO, if you are fucking even contemplating that, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU VOTING HIM? Like seriously.

[Boonskiies]

Doctor, if you exist, protect me toNight, because I'm getting NK'd toNight. Either by Ircher/Keyser, or by people trying to frame Ircher/Keyser.

[Boonskiies]

VOTE: Ircher

Let's make this happen instead.

[Boonskiies]

Like seriously, he's flip flopping all over the place. I actually don't see him flipping town at all.

[Boonskiies]

@Kain

- Sheep me here, please. We can deal with Keyser tomorrow. It's not going to happen toDay, and we NEED a lynch.

@Guy

- I'm hardcore trying to keep you alive. Switch to Ircher. It's the best we're going to get toNight.

BBT

- How am I doing with convincing you I'm town?

[Boonskiies]

@Keyser

- Bus your buddy. I'll lay off of you tomorrow some if you do.

[Boonskiies]

@Everyone

- We're in an annoying standstill with Keyser/Guy, we're being threatened for a No Lynch, and if not that, a potential mason. We're not lynching that. That can be figured out or not later. Like come on.

[Boonskiies]

I haven't been this god damn invested in a Day 1 in forever. Please. Lynch Ircher if you aren't going to lynch Keyser.

[Boonskiies]

Ircher now has 4 votes and is the second biggest wagon. Guys. Let's get this lynched.

[Boonskiies]

This legitimately isn't TownIrcher. Like at all. In Mini 1755, I hardcore tunneled him and he got SUPER DEFENSIVE and pointed out what I was doing wrong in that. Also, he consistently was open to the idea of considering ALL possibilities, where here he is not. He is dead set and lock on tunneling into Guy with no exceptions besides Titus, WHO HE THOUGHT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A MASON WITH GUY?!?!? This is absolutely not Town Ircher. He will not flip town. He will not pass Go. And he will not collect $200. I will go on and lay everything on the line and bet 100% that he is not town.

[Boonskiies]

Here he is trying to push someone else's wagon to get lynched or push the idea of a no lynch being what he wanted. No town motivation in anything he is saying.

[Boonskiies]

I'll go even further than that.

Scum is Ircher, Keyser, and...POP

[Boonskiies]

I'm not basing my want to keep Guy alive off that. Stop focusing on details. I don't actually even believe he is a mason; my main point was that ircher was contemplating it. Guy is NOT the correct lynch for the day, and it's idiotic to think he is.

[Boonskiies]

what the fuck do we figure out if he flips fucking town? Hmm? That Ircher/Keyser scum? Can say the exact reasoning both ways. crap reasoning

[Boonskiies]

I mean, considering there's 4 people on him, and two were there before me, I'm obviously not the only one who wants him lynched, so...you guys wouldn't lynch Keyser, we won't lynch Guy. Forcing a compromise so we don't get a fucking NO LYNCH.

[Boonskiies]

We're at a point of lynching Ircher or No lynch. Too many people are against Guy. It isn't happening.

It's Ircher or no lynch. Take your pick.

[Boonskiies]

You don't get to bully me when you have fewer votes.

We need two of Thor/Slandaar/Keyser. This alone is doable. The only people with their heels dug in are you and Titus.

Except it's not. Thor/Slandaar are currently on Keyser. Our problem is we want Keyser and/or Ircher to be lynched. Thor/Slandaar moving onto Ircher instead of Keyser is more plausible than them moving to Guy.

[Boonskiies]

LOL.

Alright. I'm a Town Watcher. I watched Slandaar last night. Got two names. Claim your actions. I'll let you guys at it.

[Boonskiies]

And we are absolutely not voting myself, massive, or Titus toDay. I can't even comprehend how much of a scum fuck Ircher is right now, but I want my watcher resultees to come on out and play.

[Boonskiies]

Massclaim already? Are you sure this is a good idea?

LOL.

HOLY FUCK.

Ircher is god damn 100% confirmed scum.

[Boonskiies]

Killing Slandaar was the biggest mistake you guys had. Look where Slandaar's vote was parked all day basically yesterday. Right on me. Easy kill to try and set me up for a framing. Never going to get mislynched. Obvious watcher candidate.

Now, I'll let you guys come up and explain your reactions before I out you. I at least want to see some of y'alls reactions to being caught. Then I'll decide if I'll out you. (btw, I'm 100% lynching one of the two.)

[Boonskiies]

someone explain pls,,

I don't want to potentially out a 2nd PR toDay. But one of them is scum. Might have to give it up.

[Boonskiies]

Massclaim already? Are you sure this is a good idea?

LOL.

HOLY FUCK.

Ircher is god damn 100% confirmed scum.

I know for a fact you didn't get a guilty on me.

Ircher, you are 100% scum. I don't need a guilty on you to know that.

[Boonskiies]

Hey, Aqua, Pop, TTH, and Thor. Let's have a little chat.

Who do you guys believe is scum in this group of 4?

[Boonskiies]

@Boon
Are you X-Shot or unlimited watcher?

This doesn't matter right now, Scumcher.

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why are you guys not listening to me,,

I'm just trying not to post too much right now. Ircher's trying to set himself up for a town push, probably trying to find a way to help his buddy. I don't want to give the two names because it puts us in a major 1 v 1 situation where WIFOM up the wazoo is going to take place, and then it will not only be a death for me, but a death for another town PR.

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Yes, it does

You've already outed your role. It makes no diff if you are x-shot or full for nk purposes, scum kill you anyway cuz you'd be a conf. townie

I'm going to let you explain to me why just the modifier is what would make me a confirmed townie. Because at the moment, scum is the only one who should care too much about that, as they have to find out if I'm a threat to them with power or not. Please somebody else pick up on why Ircher is scum.

[Boonskiies]

Alright-y. Progress.

Hey, Aqua, Pop, TTH, and Thor. Let's have a little chat.

Who do you guys believe is scum in this group of 4?

I'm surprised there would be scum in that group, but if I had to choose, I suppose it would be Thorella?
My next choice would be Aqua but I would be pretty flabbergasted at him being scum.

Why would you be surprised at scum being in that group? They were 4 of the 7 on the GuyFawke's lynch, the others being Ircher, Keyser, and BBT.

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I mean, I still believe Keyser/Ircher are both definitely scum.


@massive, do you want to say your thoughts on Ircher/Keyser? Along with who you think would be scum?

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@Ircher - Kain would probably vote you too, so that's 6 right there.

Why do you think Pop is scum, Irch? I'm not disagreeing or anything, just want to see your side?

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@Pop - Gun to head, keyser or aquanim, which ones town, which is scum?

[Boonskiies]

Why not sheep you today?

If you die tonight, all your thoughts and reads that you didn't post die with you. You are in no position to say you will be alive tomorrow to lead us.

Food for thought, this quote is.

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I disagree with that scum don't kill to frame. It happens a lot. Especially if you think that the person can be a PR. I'm not staying that's what happened, because it easily could be argued either way. Just...food...for thought.

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Be patient, my dearest peachies. I am just awaiting Thor, pop, and aquanim.

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They aren't due a prod. Day just started. They'll show up.

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LOL.

Alright. I'm a Town Watcher. I watched Slandaar last night. Got two names. Claim your actions. I'll let you guys at it.

I <3 you Boon.

I hope you realized what just happened. Haha.

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I took a bit of a gambit, fellas. I apologize. But it helped me find scum. So I had figured out who the other PR's were, and I was pretty much able to POE a lot of people as town. This gambit helped me solidify. I am a PR, but not a Town Watcher. I am an X-Shot Vigilante, and I shot Ircher last night, to no avail. The other PR's are pretty obvious who they are, and I'm assuming there isn't more than 3.

Nonetheless, Thor has admitted to targetting Slandaar. When I said there were two names, it was assumable that scum would come out and attempt a PR claim admitting to targeting Slandaar. Thing is, nobody else targeted Slandaar, but Thor.

VOTE: Thor

I was really hoping it was Pop.

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The only way I feel this could have been skewed is if TTH is scum, and somehow knew I didn't get a Watcher claim, which doesn't make sense as to why I wouldn't get pushed earlier, but no matter. I don't believe that happened. Thor is scum, and I believe that makes Aqua town. I'll make a list before this day ends in case I die, which I'm assuming I will.

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ircher is making me angry,,

should i just reveal what i have boonskiies, or??

? it looks like he is purposely trying to make me agitated,,

Go ahead and reveal what you have now, Kain.

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Boonskies

- X-Shot Vigilante

TellTaleHeart

- PR with protection capabilities. TTH has stated she is the reason Ircher is alive, which makes it so Thor is confirmed scum.

KainTepes

- PR of some sort. Possibly investigative. I believe the claim.

BlueBloodedToffee

- The "I <3 you, Boon." is what I feel makes BBT town. He either seemed very happy that I had gotten a great investigation, or knew exactly what I was doing. Regardless, I believe this slot is town.

Aquanim

- Aqua's town if only due to Thor's decision to pick Aqua instead of Pop/massive. Thor assumed there was going to be a second target on him, and Thor wouldn't have picked a scum buddy due to that.

Keyser Söze

I really want to say you are town. All things point to you being town based on associations that we don't have (but should have and be able to accurately predict.) I liked your response to the watcher; i like that Thor is pushing you so hard.

massive

- This is one of the slots I'm least sure about, but I want to say lean town. His way of speaking towards Ircher a couple pages ago or whenever seemed real. This banks on ircher being scum, but at this point, I feel Ircher has to be for more than just his scumminess.

Titus

- I personally want to town read her, but by no means is there anything other than gut on this one. I liked her 'giving me room to work', but it could be from either alignment.

popsofctown

- Pop came out exactly how I expected. Pop has a chance at being scum still, but by no means confirmed or even super likely.

Ircher

- Protected by TTH, doesn't reveal alignment. I don't believe he has pressured Thor at all, which is interesting considering they were on separate sides of the Keyser/Guy fiasco. That must have been okay considering Ircher is most likely a Thor scum buddy, which would make sense why Thor hammered Guy, and Ircher's wagon couldn't really get going.

Thor665

- To be completely honest, I didn't see this coming. I didn't. But he admitted to targeting Slandaar, but we mass claimed basically, and town could not have targeted Slandaar. (We already know Kain didn't.) Also, he hasn't even claimed a role.

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I'll make a list before this day ends in case I die, which I'm assuming I will.

Do your shots get refunded if you get roleblocked?

nope. used up. feel free to jail me tonight.

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BBT and Titus are the anomalies on my reads page.

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Hmm....it doesn't say scum has Day Talk, so BBT, if scum, wouldn't have been able to warn the scum team about this just being a gambit, which would stop Thor from admitting to targeting Slandaar. Encryptor is a huge possibility, but meh.

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I didn't visit Slandaar last night.

I did.

This just felt great, haha.

[Boonskiies]

I'll make a list before this day ends in case I die, which I'm assuming I will.

Do your shots get refunded if you get roleblocked?

nope. used up. feel free to jail me tonight.

Don't shoot tonight. Barring a strongman, you'll get to Night 3 where you'll have a smaller shooting pool.

Solid.

Don't lynch Thor before Kain comes out. I'd like him to say what he got last night.

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Just for gigs, what are you claiming, Thor? Haha.

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Wait for Kain to say what he got.

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@Kain - State your results from Night 1, and then feel free to vote Thor.

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KAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNN.....THE ONE TIME I NEED YOU TO POSTTTTT?!!!??!!!?!

I thought maybe if I speak like him, he'll show up.

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Boonskiies, you f*****g genius - probably the most effective gambit I've seen so far on mafiascum. Well-played.

Part of, if not all of, this quote will be going in the sig once this game is finished.

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If you are scum, well fuck. But still! Haha. I'm willing to town read you now that Thor has been outed.

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@Keyser - just hold your vote. I'm willing to end this day after Kain states his Night 1 action. I believe Ircher and then Pop are the scum team, with an outside chance of Titus/massive being in on that instead.

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Maybe Titus. Titus could take the place of Pop. But I'm less confident about that right now.

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I only "lol-hammer" if I want the day to end. I don't like prolonged days, and as you may have witnessed from Day 1, if I don't think there's a higher chance of them flipping scum, I won't hammer.

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Titus is obvscum

I'm actually starting to see it that way too, mainly because you're towning it the hell up, but Titus and I always seem to tunnel onto each other regardless of alignment, so it could be that. I'd definitely like Ircher out before Titus/Pop.

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I've played with RC a long time, Ircher. I used to have him blacklisted because of the stupid crap he used to pull, haha.

Regardless if I'm wrong or not, I don't really want to deal with Ircher toDay, so let's talk about Titus/Pop.

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Ircher could you quit behaving like caught scum? I'm trying to tunnel Titus, gah. Can't anyone play a peaceful game megablinder mafia anymore without people scumclaiming or getting outed by gambits?

And the quote of the game goes to...Pop!!

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Why the hell would I claim X-shot if I was SK. He actually could be gunsmith...mafia gunsmith.

Guys, Kain probably is an investigative; how does this make sense? Thor's doing very well at getting out of that, haha.

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Thor is making a polite amount of effort to continue playing towards his win con in an impossible situation, and I appreciate the sportsmanship.

This. He's doing as much as he can.

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I don't get why you doubt Kain's PR. Also, I have absolutely NO IDEA how you can even consider the possibility of Thor gunsmith. He's not town. Like...he's not. He's confirmed scum.

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A little pause, but nonetheless a scum. Gunsmith makes sense, yes, but that is a very common PR on the mafia side as well.

Kain's too new of a player to crumb correctly, and the way he's been asking for my thoughts and stuff. I hope he is like a cop and got a clear on like BBT/massive.

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Aqua doesn't have to be scum, Kain. That just means they have a role block.

Kain is confirmed town. He doesn't even know about the no result and the like.

If we don't lynch Thor today, I'm going to be pissed.

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Kain was crumbling it all over the place yesterDay, it makes sense for him to get roleblocked. And he was all over pushing aquanim.

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Thor is today's lynch. DO NOT let him slip out from this.

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Bbt is not today's lynch. At all. Titus confirmed as Thor partner? If somehow Thor is town, he's not, BBT can be looked at.

Bbt could be getting bussing credit, but I feel like he knew what I was doing, and would have outed me. Titus pushing BBT now is both awkward because of Thor's obviously being the lynch candidate. We just have to deal with WIFOM and sort it out later. Thor is the lynch today.

@Kain - investigate Pop/Titus/massive/Aqua. You probably will get role blocked, though. You did last night, which is why you got No result.

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@keyser - Hammer it home. You are confirmed town in my eyes now. Grats.

@Ircher - I liked your play at the end of this day, don't fail me.

@Kain - oh, you are limited, which MAKES EVEN MORE SENSE than just gunsmith. Ha.

@TTH - Jail me; I won't shoot tonight.

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It's fine. More than enough support for this lynch. There is no reason to lynch anyone else today.

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I'm somewhat strongly town reading BBT.

Yes, we need a hammer.

ScumBBT would have hardcore played devil's advocate to me.

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I'm done speaking for the day. Hammer away; if anyone else wants to say anything, speak up.

@TTH - I won't be using a shot tonight if we want to jail me. Don't have to, but yeah.

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When Thor scum flips, I hope that clears up Kain for you, TTH.

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Fuck. I thought TTH was scum after that flip.

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I just can't see Kain being scum.

I suck. I need a reset from Mafia. I'm going to in to mod instead, haha.

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why is BBT excluded from possible scum? I agree there are probably multiple scum in pops/massive/titus?

Looking back at it now, titus is probably definitely scum from the 'giving me room to work'

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No result tells us nothing, Kain. Aqua doesnt have to have any part of the no result. You got a no result because you were role blocked by scum. If you would have investigated anyone, you would have gotten No Result because of that. Unless Aqua is ascetic, of course.

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but Aquanim may be GODFATHER, which is MAFIA,, i said that already, it is a possibility?

Not how god father works, bruh.

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You are 100% blocked. Not may. If he was godfather, it would have given you "Not Guilty".

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Or "Innocent".

No result means your investigation didn't get through.

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VOTE: Titus

I think I'm good.

This has definitely turned out to be my worst town game of all time; that's saying a lot.

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just vote titus.

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VOTE: Boonskiies

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Welp.

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Maybe I should just start modding again instead....haha.

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Kain buddied the hell out of me, haha.

I went into the dead thread guessing the scum team as BBT-Massive-Aqua.

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As to Massive: No kudos to you. You were your same lurktastic self and I am apalled that no one really questioned whether you were town the entire game.

to be fair, this is how he always is. He posts the same amount every time. He doesn't post at specific times. He's very consistent, and I don't think that's a bad thing. I've been scum with massive before, and I really enjoyed it. When I mod, I always invite him to the games I mod, and is one of the names I look for when looking at playerlists to /in at.

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I wish i was online like 15 minutes before the titus hammer.