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Post Post #1826 (isolation #200) » Wed May 25, 2016 9:45 am

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Still wanna know why KAAG should be vigged
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Post Post #1828 (isolation #201) » Wed May 25, 2016 9:46 am

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In post 1736, pirate mollie wrote:best case I ever made was on kmd and it was cos he had never seen a star wars movie and he got lynched and flipped scum.

I am the best at making cases on ms.
I think we found scum.
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Post Post #1834 (isolation #202) » Wed May 25, 2016 9:50 am

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In post 1828, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1736, pirate mollie wrote:best case I ever made was on kmd and it was cos he had never seen a star wars movie and he got lynched and flipped scum.

I am the best at making cases on ms.
I think we found scum.
In post 1831, Chumba wrote:
In post 1827, BlackStar wrote:
In post 1824, Chumba wrote:I know about using movie quotes but you added a line and that line you added is something you are guilty of yourself so...
You've never watched star wars?
Yes I've watched it.
I'm not talking about the movie. I'm talking about the game.
Nevermind
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #203) » Wed May 25, 2016 9:52 am

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But Chumba, if we let pants live then scum can coast through this game and not do anything. Like the rule has to be that you help town and scum hunt or you get lynched so that we can force scum to interact leading to slips. If we don't lynch pants today and he is scum he probably does nothing all the way until lylo.
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Post Post #1841 (isolation #204) » Wed May 25, 2016 9:54 am

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He said he would post stuff and we gave him like 3 days, then he continued to not post stuff. Now in twilight he is still not posting.
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Post Post #1842 (isolation #205) » Wed May 25, 2016 9:55 am

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Plus he said 24 hours and that he was going out, but then continued to post, so I think that negates the give me time request.
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Post Post #1845 (isolation #206) » Wed May 25, 2016 9:56 am

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Because if we allow anybody to coast then that's what scum will do.
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #207) » Wed May 25, 2016 11:05 am

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Lol who do you think she is gunna say...
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Post Post #1892 (isolation #208) » Wed May 25, 2016 11:05 am

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Dunn fail lol
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #209) » Wed May 25, 2016 11:07 am

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Dunn invited before accountant "hammer"
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #210) » Wed May 25, 2016 11:07 am

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Unvoted*
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Post Post #1899 (isolation #211) » Wed May 25, 2016 11:10 am

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Inb4 kuroi is scum and knows Chumba is wrong.
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Post Post #1933 (isolation #212) » Sat May 28, 2016 5:59 am

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Anyone claiming one of those?
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Post Post #2084 (isolation #213) » Mon May 30, 2016 12:55 am

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Catching up
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #214) » Mon May 30, 2016 1:27 am

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I think Accountant is town. Someone tell me why SK decides to do a weird "I was scum reading them all along!" thing and then uses the kill there. I think SK Accountant absolutely kills me if they are going to claim the shot.

I don't think anything other than town plays that like Accountant did.
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Post Post #2094 (isolation #215) » Mon May 30, 2016 1:36 am

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There's just as much responsibility on you to explain an SKs motivation as there is to explain a townie's motivation. Town wants to kill scum, so townie shoots scum read. Your turn to explain the SK motivation for

1. flipping reads on TBG just to set up the shot
2. Shooting a widely town read player when planning to claim the shot
3. Claiming the shot with no pressure
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Post Post #2095 (isolation #216) » Mon May 30, 2016 1:36 am

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It's obvious that the read didn't change, he was just hiding his read.
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Post Post #2096 (isolation #217) » Mon May 30, 2016 1:38 am

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(btw, kuroi sees his partner is dead and is bussing and chilled is distancing)
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Post Post #2097 (isolation #218) » Mon May 30, 2016 1:39 am

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Anyone know vote count on chilled?
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Post Post #2100 (isolation #219) » Mon May 30, 2016 1:47 am

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I was obviously talking about the TBG read. You've done this a few times where you misrep something obvious to avoid addressing the actual point.
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Post Post #2101 (isolation #220) » Mon May 30, 2016 1:50 am

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In post 1957, chilledtea wrote:So you think there are more than 3 scum this game?
In post 1989, chilledtea wrote:
In post 1986, Accountant wrote:shooting chilled tonight if no lynch - he can't be town at this point.
LOL.

The fact that you even consider no lynch a possibility. lmao.

Sorry that you have been caught as an SK. You can kill me tonight, if you escape the lynch of course.

This isn't the first time btw, that I have been threatened with an NK openly during the day so I will just take it as a complement.
These are what I'm talking about, specifically.
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Post Post #2105 (isolation #221) » Mon May 30, 2016 3:08 am

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See, 2103 is what I'm talking about. This is a leading question that is trying to get me to work from the viewpoint of "accountant changed reads" when that's not what happened. If you take accountant at face value then they revealed a read they were hiding otherwise. If you don't, then Accountant is SK who is faking a read to set up a shot. But there's no reason to believe that Accountant had their read on TBG shift suddenly.

Accountant's play is reasonable from a town perspective. They shot their strongest scum read. Sure the read was bad, but it makes sense. If you mean to ask me who they would have shot, as town, if they were not scum reading TBG then they would have done the same thing and shot their strongest scum read (probably me or blackstar).
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Post Post #2106 (isolation #222) » Mon May 30, 2016 3:08 am

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And yeah you were trying to get Dunn to respond but you were casting shade while doing it when it's clear he just misread.
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Post Post #2109 (isolation #223) » Mon May 30, 2016 3:51 am

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Hmm.
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Post Post #2110 (isolation #224) » Mon May 30, 2016 3:52 am

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VOTE: Kuroi
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Post Post #2133 (isolation #225) » Mon May 30, 2016 7:30 am

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Can you guys tldr whatever is going on between you two so I understand?
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Post Post #2138 (isolation #226) » Mon May 30, 2016 7:40 am

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Thanks.
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #227) » Mon May 30, 2016 8:56 am

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Lol
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Post Post #2181 (isolation #228) » Mon May 30, 2016 10:01 am

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How is derek higher than Kuroi though.
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Post Post #2182 (isolation #229) » Mon May 30, 2016 10:01 am

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As in higher on your scum list.
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Post Post #2184 (isolation #230) » Mon May 30, 2016 10:04 am

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:roll:
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Post Post #2186 (isolation #231) » Mon May 30, 2016 10:05 am

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I noticed this too and didn't want to say anything about it, see my immediate change from wanting to vote chilled to voting kuroi.
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Post Post #2188 (isolation #232) » Mon May 30, 2016 10:07 am

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You're more confident about Derek than Kuroi?
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Post Post #2205 (isolation #233) » Mon May 30, 2016 12:57 pm

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What do you want from me?
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Post Post #2207 (isolation #234) » Mon May 30, 2016 1:03 pm

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Will you know if I'm right? :wink:
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Post Post #2208 (isolation #235) » Mon May 30, 2016 1:12 pm

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Town: Chumba slot, Accountant, mollie, dunn
scum: kuroi
others: KAAG, chilled, Titus, Derek

KAAG: Could definitely be scum if Titus is (pushed transcend/pants to get pressure off black)
Titus: Sheeping mollie a bit here, but I could see Titus being scum based on mollie's posts. Hasn't put a lot of effort into figuring things out.
Chilled: Honestly think he might be town because of what mollie posted earlier, he did something very similar as town PR in the other game we played together. If he is scum it will get sorted eventually as he's locked into a PR claim (or at least I would find him claiming VT now extremely suspicious).
Derek: POE says could easily be scum, hasn't done any scum hunting, that's for sure.

So right now, I'd go with [Kuroi, KAAG, Titus] with [Kuroi, chilled, derek] being my back up choices?
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Post Post #2210 (isolation #236) » Mon May 30, 2016 1:16 pm

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I don't think our reads are far off.
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Post Post #2211 (isolation #237) » Mon May 30, 2016 1:17 pm

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I was hard scum reading chilled for his posts about Accountant before that softclaim.
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Post Post #2215 (isolation #238) » Mon May 30, 2016 3:52 pm

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4/13 original players left...
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Post Post #2217 (isolation #239) » Mon May 30, 2016 3:54 pm

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I'm basing that on Mollie's expectation of you.
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Post Post #2228 (isolation #240) » Mon May 30, 2016 4:09 pm

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In post 2220, Titus wrote:
In post 2217, MURDERCAT wrote:I'm basing that on Mollie's expectation of you.
Yes, well Mollie's expectation of me got worked somehow. Why don't you form your own opinion? I have plenty of meta sources.
Because you aren't my lynch target today anyway. I'll do that if I decide to vote you later.
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Post Post #2268 (isolation #241) » Mon May 30, 2016 6:02 pm

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In post 2252, Accountant wrote:town may not be robots but they should do their best to act like it, at least emotionally.

I really wish MURDERCAT had original opinions.
I've been on the Kuroi slot since 100 posts into the game, so...
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Post Post #2285 (isolation #242) » Tue May 31, 2016 5:14 am

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I'd rather the shot be at Derek than Titus...

Although maybe the replacement changes things.
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Post Post #2309 (isolation #243) » Tue May 31, 2016 8:22 am

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In post 2308, Titus wrote:RachMarie was shot for being obvcop IMO
I agree, not because I noticed it but because why else was Rach shot?
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Post Post #2315 (isolation #244) » Tue May 31, 2016 8:37 am

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In post 2311, Dunnstral wrote:So why is just outright shooting rach somehow worse than roleblocking her
Honestly I kind of agree with it, you get to kill someone widely town read and don't have to worry about cop. Hardly proves the claim is false though. For example, they could have tried to roleblock vig.
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Post Post #2318 (isolation #245) » Tue May 31, 2016 8:44 am

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Only slightly less reliable than a doctor claim, tbh.
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Post Post #2326 (isolation #246) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:28 am

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In post 2325, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:I didn't push anyone of BlackStar, I made a case on Transcend that was stronger.
Yes but if you are scum the motivation could have been to get pressure off BS. I am currently leaning towards the other grouping I posted though.
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Post Post #2327 (isolation #247) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:29 am

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In post 2325, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:The softclaim is meaningless.
Well now we get a real one. He did do something very similar in the other game we played together though, and he was a PR there.
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Post Post #2342 (isolation #248) » Tue May 31, 2016 2:09 pm

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Hopefully chilled claim will clear up a lot.
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Post Post #2347 (isolation #249) » Tue May 31, 2016 2:23 pm

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(still in the game)
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Post Post #2353 (isolation #250) » Tue May 31, 2016 2:31 pm

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Accountant's reads that leave me out

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Post Post #2356 (isolation #251) » Tue May 31, 2016 2:35 pm

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I'm not sure why you bought into the claim at all tbh..
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Post Post #2357 (isolation #252) » Tue May 31, 2016 2:35 pm

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<3
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Post Post #2361 (isolation #253) » Tue May 31, 2016 2:52 pm

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(especially considering pants flipping town)
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Post Post #2424 (isolation #254) » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:38 pm

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Tough to find replacements for a 100 page game
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Post Post #2427 (isolation #255) » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:58 pm

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Congrats!
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Post Post #2435 (isolation #256) » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:52 pm

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mollie is probably my strongest town read.
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Post Post #2438 (isolation #257) » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:18 pm

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^ basically that

I probably won't really reconsider my reads on you guys too much unless there's some crazy scum slip or we go to lylo.
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Post Post #2439 (isolation #258) » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:19 pm

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Are you not as sold on town Mollie?
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Post Post #2441 (isolation #259) » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:42 pm

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I also feel good about Dunn and Chumba slot, not quite as good but still quite good. So if all 5 of us are town (and we all agree we are all town) we are in good shape I think.
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Post Post #2456 (isolation #260) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:57 am

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Something like that accountant. It's easy to find scum when all the townies find each other.

In other news, Titus slot is feeling town again and KAAG feels ok too (by association). Derek, chilled, kuroi is where we should be looking (as we've already decided). Doctor and bulletproof are both good fake claims and I'm not really buying either of them. Shooting chilled sounds good but if accountant is role blocked then we would incorrectly confirm chilled so that doesn't work. So probably lynch Derek or chilled and shoot kuroi? Who's the doc gunna protect anyway, our cop is dead and vig will be out of shots. I guess we could shoot KAAG too but I don't like that as much. Depends on the flip too obviously. Wish you could just hold the shot until we kill the roleblocker, but you will either die or be roleblocked.

Actually let's think about that more. If kuroi is town then accountant dies tonight for sure and should use the shot. If kuroi is scum then we might have a doc who didn't cc and accountant gets roleblocked and shouldn't shoot. So we really need to decide if kuroi is legit.

Oh and Chumba slot is still in the game. We should probably sit on a lynch until those replacements come through as maybe one of them shows up and has important role information.

Pedit: start to speak of the devil and she shall appear! Welcome back Chumba hope you are doing ok, all things considered.
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Post Post #2458 (isolation #261) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:08 am

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And if it is legit, it's now useless, so we shouldn't be more afraid to lynch chilled than we would a VT.

Personally, I'm feeling pretty good about lynching chilled.
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Post Post #2459 (isolation #262) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:13 am

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Titus can we talk about your chilled read? Because there's some disagreement there.
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Post Post #2460 (isolation #263) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:18 am

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Out of curiosity have you read his ISO? There was basically nothing on day 1, a lot like derek, which is why a lot of people were/are suspicious. In my first game Chilled was bp and played it differently so that's one reason I am suspicious.
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Post Post #2462 (isolation #264) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:48 am

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What claim do you think would make more sense?
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Post Post #2464 (isolation #265) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:05 am

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Well gunsmith is out due to cop flip but tracker/watcher is possible. I think we would all be pretty suspicious of all of that power though.

BP claim seems like it makes sense to me because

1. you don't have to worry about night actions and
2. it's only a partial doc CC.

So he can use it to possibly get kuroi lynched (if kuroi is town) and then try to wiggle out of a lynch himself later. I think if chilled is scum would probably be happy with a 1-1 if the town is PR as he was already under a lot of pressure.

An alternative is that both kuroi and chilled are scum and they
don't
have a roleblocker so they know doc is a safe fake claim. Although why kuroi would steal that claim from chilled I don't know, maybe they are looking to get chilled lynched and have kuroi sitting pretty afterwards.
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Post Post #2466 (isolation #266) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:30 am

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Scum BP could certainly make sense.
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Post Post #2467 (isolation #267) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:31 am

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If kuroi is scum how does that affect chilled being scum BP?
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Post Post #2469 (isolation #268) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:34 am

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But we could have a doc who didn't want to cc.
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Post Post #2472 (isolation #269) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:28 am

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Who is that to Kuroi and why do you think that?
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Post Post #2473 (isolation #270) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:30 am

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I'm saying that if Kuroi is scum he wants doc to out themselves. It's possible we have a doc lying low not wanting to CC because they think they can get kuroi lynched anyway, especially with what's happening with chilled. So it's possible that chilled is scum BP, scum kuroi is trying to out doc, and doc is lying low and seeing if they have to CC kuroi.
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Post Post #2476 (isolation #271) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:38 am

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I guess so, they just both seem scummy to me.
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Post Post #2478 (isolation #272) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:49 am

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Very early on I was scum reading Dunn, but over day 1 I had a general sense he was trying to figure out the game/scumhunt. That plus some stuff I don't really see coming from scum like hardcore white knighting for pants.
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Post Post #2480 (isolation #273) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:57 am

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Maybe, it didn't come off to me as I want to look good after this flip though, more that he thought we were lynching a townie and wanted us to know it. It was really sort of panicked which made it feel very genuine to me.
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Post Post #2481 (isolation #274) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:05 am

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I'm also still seriously considering the Kuroi/Chilled are scum with no roleblocker theory so that's still a decently possible situation in which they are both scum.
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Post Post #2483 (isolation #275) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:59 am

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Mollie thoughts on both chilled and kuroi being scum theories?
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Post Post #2493 (isolation #276) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:09 am

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Chumba is almost definitely town IMO.
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Post Post #2494 (isolation #277) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:10 am

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Let's lynched chilled. I think that claim is less legit and we don't stand to lose as much, plus we have a shot at keeping accountant alive.
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Post Post #2498 (isolation #278) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:42 am

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There is a chance chilled is rb though. And at least the accountant shot goes through no matter what. If we lynch doc we don't get the second shot. The other option for scum is to kill kuroi and rb accountant, but at least Accountant is alive for another day (giving us another shot at lynching rb).
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Post Post #2500 (isolation #279) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:47 am

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Sorry, what I meant was that chilled could be the scum roleblocker and lynching him saves accountant.
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Post Post #2504 (isolation #280) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:03 am

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That doesn't simplify nearly as much as a chilled or kuroi lynch.
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Post Post #2517 (isolation #281) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:39 pm

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Mollie said she picked up on a cop tell so I think that's legit.
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Post Post #2535 (isolation #282) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:42 pm

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Why?
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Post Post #2555 (isolation #283) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:05 pm

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Oh shittttt murdercat from downtown
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Post Post #2558 (isolation #284) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:09 pm

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Come on this game is solved.

Derek/chilled/kuroi
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Post Post #2562 (isolation #285) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:17 pm

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Read through chilled's ISO again, you think that's town?
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Post Post #2563 (isolation #286) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:18 pm

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I called out their super obvious distancing a while ago.
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Post Post #2565 (isolation #287) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:20 pm

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Hahaha
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Post Post #2567 (isolation #288) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:20 pm

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Let me get on my computer quickly and I'll show you where they distanced
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Post Post #2573 (isolation #289) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:28 pm

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In post 2048, KuroiXHF wrote:
In post 1951, chilledtea wrote:Are you denying that pants was the best lynch on day 1?

If you are, then you are wrong. I have always held that if town don't play as a team then there is very little individuals can do about it.
Wait, are you saying that Pants was the best lynch because the town decided to lynch him?

Pants was a bad choice. Nearly a terrible choice.
From my experience, such players as pants (unless they are PR's) make it difficult for town later on by being constantly on the scumdar and allowing scum to camouflage themselves in.
And there have been many players like Pants that I've played with in the past, and I understand the frustration... but he was town.
In post 1953, chilledtea wrote:Sorry, your theory is garbage. I would explain but I actually don't think you understand. Even through pure statistical point of view, your theory is bad. The assumption that a quickwagon is always on town is so silly that it is hurting my brain. So many bad assumptions, I don't play mafia that way, sorry.
A condescending tone is not a great defense.
In post 1991, Accountant wrote:
In post 1988, chilledtea wrote:
In post 1985, Accountant wrote:did u miss the bit where I said I thought TBG was almost certainly scum
This was what made me suspicious of you though.

How did you go, from TBG is most likely town, to TBG is most likely scum? That progression of your read was very bad and it makes a lot of sense to me that an SK might have done that to look like town Vig.

Like, if you are town you are the worst vig player I've seen. And that is not possible, sorry.
durrr ad hominem
vote this scumlord plz
Okay.
VOTE: ChilledTea It's beyond scummy after your role claim to start going after you. You've also been one of the towniest players all game. Not only is ChilledTea scum - he is bad scum.
In post 2028, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 2011, KuroiXHF wrote:I'm not allowed to make observations? Notice how I didn't throw a vote. I came into this day expecting to vote Derek but I'm going to read fully before I throw my vote out.
you said you didn't throw a vote down cos you were on a mobile phone and not for any other reason.

so yes, it does look like you were throwing shade down.

HEY GUYS I HAVE THIS FANTASTIC IDEA HOW ABOUT IF YOU ARE TOWN YOU TRY BEING TRANSPARENT WITH YOUR THOUGHTS TIA
Holy fuck shit. Can you please stop with the caps lock? You just woke my fiancee up from her nap. I didn't throw a vote because I was on mobile, and when I'm out and about throughout the day, I'm not able to read everything in a single swoop and gather all my opinions. If I'm on mobile, I'm doing stuff. At home, I'm on a computer.

But holy shit on this misrepresenting implicit accusation.
In post 2039, Chumba wrote:I'm sorry. A death in the family will require me to request replacement again. Father passed away this morning.

request replacement
Sorry to hear that. :(
In post 2077, chilledtea wrote:
VOTE : Kuroi
I'm not going to quote everything but this is just so weak. Reread all the posts around these and you will see. But even just looking at these posts it's obvious. Kuroi finds a really weak vote on chilled and chilled answers back with 0 reasoning or anything, just pure OMGUS after he fails to doubt cast Accountant and gives up on it.
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Post Post #2574 (isolation #290) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:31 pm

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Mollie you get what's going on right now right?
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Post Post #2575 (isolation #291) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:32 pm

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Accountant shouldn't shoot tonight by the way unless we lynch RB.
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Post Post #2580 (isolation #292) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:35 pm

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So much fighting in a solved game
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Post Post #2582 (isolation #293) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:38 pm

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I'm like 95% sure I've been right since here:
In post 2326, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 2325, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:I didn't push anyone of BlackStar, I made a case on Transcend that was stronger.
Yes but if you are scum the motivation could have been to get pressure off BS.
I am currently leaning towards the other grouping I posted though.
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Post Post #2585 (isolation #294) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:44 pm

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I fucking knew you were doc too but I didn't want to say it. That what I was trying to get across when I was saying "maybe doc hasn't cc'd"
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Post Post #2591 (isolation #295) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:49 pm

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Chumba is just wifoming scum....

guysssssssss come onnnnnnn
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Post Post #2594 (isolation #296) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:50 pm

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Come on guys chumba is obv fuckin town
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Post Post #2600 (isolation #297) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:54 pm

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0% chumba is scum. This is likely a mod not being 100% precise or chumba wifoming. Why would scum even think to make that up?
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Post Post #2601 (isolation #298) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:54 pm

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WE ARE NOT LYNCHING CHUMBA TODAY HOLY SHIT
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Post Post #2603 (isolation #299) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:55 pm

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Even if you think chumba and kuroi are both scum we should lynch kuroi and see what happens tonight.
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Post Post #2606 (isolation #300) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:56 pm

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Why are we letting this game get away.

Kuroi/chilled/derek
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Post Post #2610 (isolation #301) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:58 pm

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ok fine

95% Kuroi/chilled/derek
5% Kuroi/chilled/Titus
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Post Post #2615 (isolation #302) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:01 pm

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Accountant doesn't get the shot off because of rb, accountant don't shoot tonight unless we lynch rb.

Chumba protect accountant
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Post Post #2620 (isolation #303) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:05 pm

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chumba will protect accountant and accountant won't shoot (unless we lynch rb) because literally nothing else makes sense.
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Post Post #2623 (isolation #304) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:07 pm

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wait actually we get to choose who we want tomorrow chumba or accountant based on whether or not we tell accountant to shoot
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Post Post #2626 (isolation #305) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:08 pm

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If we tell accountant to shoot then scum rb and chumba dies but we keep accountant. If we say don't shoot then chumba gets rb'd and accountant gets shot.
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Post Post #2627 (isolation #306) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:09 pm

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mollie no....

<3

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Post Post #2633 (isolation #307) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:11 pm

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noooo what happened to town working together
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Post Post #2635 (isolation #308) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:13 pm

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Mollie slot is 100% town I'm telling you
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Post Post #2638 (isolation #309) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:13 pm

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I could see Titus as scum over derek but I don't care about that now. Right now we are killing kuroi and chilled.
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Post Post #2642 (isolation #310) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:16 pm

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Explain to me how kuroi is even town over chumba right now? Simple noob mistake does not outweigh a shitton of scum play from kuroi. You think scum fake claiming is going to bring up their role pm when claiming?
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Post Post #2643 (isolation #311) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:16 pm

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You think doc and bp and cop and vig are all in this game right now?
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Post Post #2652 (isolation #312) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:21 pm

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^ just from the time she's been in this game it's obvious it's a town replace out IMO.
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Post Post #2661 (isolation #313) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:26 pm

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God this game has been crazy the entire time. Let's just lynch kuroi and go to bed, we know that slot is scum. Then Accountant has the choice of Derek or chilled or even maybe Titus (but I don't like that).
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #314) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:30 pm

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Oh I think Accountant maybe hammered.
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Post Post #2667 (isolation #315) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:30 pm

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haha yeah
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Post Post #2669 (isolation #316) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:33 pm

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Let the record show that I think chumba is town and chilled is scum and probably derek is last scum but maybe slight chance of titus. Mollie and accountant and dunn and kaag are town.
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Post Post #2677 (isolation #317) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:36 pm

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I still don't see why people aren't buying into chilled/derek as last two

PEdit: "you" is clearly referring to everyone (although to be fair, TBG was town)
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Post Post #2682 (isolation #318) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:36 pm

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So kuroi/titus and who?
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Post Post #2683 (isolation #319) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:37 pm

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to dunn ^
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Post Post #2689 (isolation #320) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:40 pm

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In post 2686, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2682, MURDERCAT wrote:So kuroi/titus and who?
Dunno

Let's not get ahead of ourselves
You can't say forget about chilled and not give me a 3rd scum read. Chilled is scum I'm really feeling it.
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Post Post #2703 (isolation #321) » Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:00 pm

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I'll think about this later, Derek slot still scum.
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Post Post #2741 (isolation #322) » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:35 pm

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Chumba and Accountant are pretty much for sure town.
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Post Post #2743 (isolation #323) » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:44 pm

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Well they claimed 2 shot so I guess that will work itself out.
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Post Post #2753 (isolation #324) » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:49 pm

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In post 2749, Infinity 324 wrote:Anyway I feel pretty confident that the last 2 scum are in {chumba, titus, chilled, accountant}

Possibly KAAG as well. That kinda says nothing but at least it narrows it down a bit
This is 100% scum.
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Post Post #2755 (isolation #325) » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:53 pm

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In post 2606, MURDERCAT wrote:Why are we letting this game get away.

Kuroi/chilled/derek
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This still.
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Post Post #2795 (isolation #326) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:45 am

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Titus I'm sorry but I can basically guarantee you Chumba is town. I'm that confident. It was a simple mistake. Let's lynch chilled today please, that will clear a lot up. How many votes are on him?
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Post Post #2803 (isolation #327) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:01 am

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How many to lynch? 4? How many people are in the game right now?
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Post Post #2804 (isolation #328) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:02 am

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Ok I'll get on my computer and make sure I'm not hammering or anything.
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Post Post #2806 (isolation #329) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:06 am

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Yup, I count 8 left (KAAG, where are you?) so 5 to lynch.

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Post Post #2807 (isolation #330) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:07 am

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Honestly, I think I'm ok with just killing chilled and seeing what happens.
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Post Post #2809 (isolation #331) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:08 am

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Either chilled and infinity are scum or one of them is and one of Titus/Dunn is scum, imo.
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Post Post #2812 (isolation #332) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:14 am

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In post 2505, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 2503, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2502, pirate mollie wrote:I want to simplify the game titus how about you

Thoughts on lynching Derek then?
chilled and kuroi need to be sorted

priorities
In post 2552, pirate mollie wrote:yeah no

VOTE: chilled tea
Mollie doubted it at first because of the self healing thing, but honestly at the end of the day I don't think she thought chumba was scum.
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Post Post #2813 (isolation #333) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:14 am

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Can you explain how the self protect claim is a mistake more likely to come from scum than town?
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Post Post #2815 (isolation #334) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:17 am

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Night actions were chumba is doc and protects accountant, accountant gets role blocked, mollie gets shot by scum.
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Post Post #2819 (isolation #335) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:20 am

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UNVOTE:

Ok let's just lynch infinity, mollie was really confident about that.

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Post Post #2821 (isolation #336) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:21 am

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I still think it's more likely we have a doc than a bp. Plus with Accountant's shot not going through that basically confirms roleblocker which points to doctor.
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Post Post #2825 (isolation #337) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:23 am

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Yeah but for what purpose? We have 1 PR with a 2 shot night action, so scum gets a roleblocker? Explain that please.
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Post Post #2834 (isolation #338) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:34 am

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But accountant shot last night, must be an RB. Maybe chilled is actually town and they figured there was no doc? Maybe that makes the most sense. Although it's not a true CC, both can exist.

...oh yeah I forgot about cop
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Post Post #2838 (isolation #339) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:39 am

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But is doc really a danger when there's no more PRs? Who were we more likely to lynch, Mollie or Chumba?
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Post Post #2840 (isolation #340) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:41 am

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Like assuming all 3 are not scum, scum could choose between Chumba, Mollie, and accountant to kill. Which of those 3 was least likely to be lynched?
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Post Post #2842 (isolation #341) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:45 am

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Right but long term, who is the biggest threat to scum? Vig with no shots who might be SK, doc with no one to protect who has some enemies, or the obv town who was leading us? The only thing that doesn't make sense is that Mollie was out but the slot would have been obv town no matter what.
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Post Post #2846 (isolation #342) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:51 am

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Accountant can't kill them anymore, no more shots. Also I think Derek slot is confirmed scum right now or they would have killed accountant and let the shot go through, so let's just lynch there please.
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Post Post #2854 (isolation #343) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:56 am

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I think it makes more sense for scum to get accountant dead and have another kill go through (if it's town then maybe not ML bait any more after replace in).
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Post Post #2857 (isolation #344) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:00 am

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Derek that's my point
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Post Post #2859 (isolation #345) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:08 am

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I think Derek is where we should go, chilled/KAAG thoughts?
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Post Post #2872 (isolation #346) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:55 am

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Can we just lynch this? Who thinks Derek's slot is town?
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Post Post #2874 (isolation #347) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:05 am

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What is your evidence of that?
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Post Post #2877 (isolation #348) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:13 am

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So your slot was obv town but Derek wasn't particularly towny?
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Post Post #2879 (isolation #349) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:15 am

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That happened so long before lynch though.
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Post Post #2902 (isolation #350) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:28 am

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Explain please
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Post Post #2906 (isolation #351) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:49 am

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Why
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Post Post #2985 (isolation #352) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:05 am

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In post 2959, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Infinity324

I like my vote here.

Welcome to the lynching scum club. We will win the game why everyone else attacks townies. Sit down, have a drink, and get comfortable because this is gunna take a while.
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Post Post #2986 (isolation #353) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:07 am

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New people can be confident I'm town because I pushed kuroi slot since like 100 posts in and never backed down.
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Post Post #3076 (isolation #354) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:26 am

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Math blade and Chumba who are you looking to lynch today? TBH I've been skimming, I'll go back and read closely at some point.
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Post Post #3080 (isolation #355) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:41 pm

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Sorry I meant instead of Titus because I don't think that's happening.
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Post Post #3084 (isolation #356) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:31 am

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Everyone give their top two scum reads please and let's just lynch someone.

I still say chilled and infinity.
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Post Post #3092 (isolation #357) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:10 am

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I just wanna lynch somebody.
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Post Post #3094 (isolation #358) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:35 am

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VOTE: Titus

ok
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Post Post #3096 (isolation #359) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:47 am

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UNVOTE:

Actually I really don't think the whole Titus v kuroi thing was scum theatre.
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Post Post #3097 (isolation #360) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:47 am

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Can we just lynch Derek slot or chilled please everything will be a lot more clear.
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Post Post #3098 (isolation #361) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:48 am

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VOTE: chilled

I don't care which.
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Post Post #3101 (isolation #362) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:03 am

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Infinity vote chilled with me.
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Post Post #3107 (isolation #363) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:44 am

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Let's do chilled please.
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Post Post #3109 (isolation #364) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:50 am

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I really feel better about chilled.
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Post Post #3111 (isolation #365) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:57 am

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Dunn give me the short version of why you are on Titus?
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Post Post #3112 (isolation #366) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:58 am

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VOTE: Titus

I guess I should work with my town reads.
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Post Post #3114 (isolation #367) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:28 am

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thanks
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Post Post #3116 (isolation #368) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:08 am

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titus
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Post Post #3122 (isolation #369) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:23 am

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chumba is town. I want to do chilled but no one is voting there.
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Post Post #3177 (isolation #370) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:43 pm

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UNVOTE:

If town decides to work together let me know
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Post Post #3204 (isolation #371) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:18 am

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{Dunn}
{titus}
{KAAG, infinity}
{chilled}
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Post Post #3205 (isolation #372) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:19 am

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Chilled I'm pretty sure is scum because of the weird distancing I noticed. I could see Titus but my gut says no. KAAG and infinity slots haven't done much in the game overall.
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Post Post #3206 (isolation #373) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:19 am

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idk where my vote is...

VOTE: chilled

Let's just do this and see what's up, ok?
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Post Post #3208 (isolation #374) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:45 am

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Chilled went first.
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Post Post #3209 (isolation #375) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:45 am

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When kuroi had to claim, what else made sense?
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Post Post #3212 (isolation #376) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:15 am

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Chilled softed though. I think he was intending to use the doctor claim but the kuroi needed it so he came up with bp.
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Post Post #3216 (isolation #377) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:25 am

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Just less likely to be scum than infinity or KAAG. I don't think Titus and kuroi are scum together.

Pedit: yeah
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Post Post #3218 (isolation #378) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:38 am

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You know what, let's do this.

VOTE: KAAG

Kuroi had KAAG as strong town when it made no sense.
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Post Post #3219 (isolation #379) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:39 am

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My gut was saying that Titus probably wasn't scum with kuroi on day 2. I don't really feel like going back and reading right now so I'm going to stick with it.
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Post Post #3222 (isolation #380) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:44 am

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I literally just want to lynch anybody. I could see a case for chilled or titus being town or scum.
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Post Post #3229 (isolation #381) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:03 am

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Let's do KAAG, there's like 3 unused slots in this game right now anyway.
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Post Post #3234 (isolation #382) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:30 am

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Lmao
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Post Post #3250 (isolation #383) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:51 am

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In post 3246, Infinity 324 wrote:3. The 1-shot BP not only has to be in the pool of players that could get nightkilled, it has to predict when it will get nightkilled on the right day, then at the end of that you get an extra VT
BP is a passive modifier.
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Post Post #3251 (isolation #384) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:52 am

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Chumba why do you argue with someone you think is scum so much?
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Post Post #3261 (isolation #385) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:35 am

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I don't think so. If other town reads were more confident then I would consider it more strongly but I think we should be looking at chilled/kaag for now.
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Post Post #3262 (isolation #386) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:39 am

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Titus is a very tunnelly player. So tunnelly that even you being doctor will not stop her from trying to lynch you. I realize how that could be frustrating and that it is reasonable to think Titus is scum for that reason. However I believe scum Titus would realize a push on you is useless. I also think Titus and kuroi don't seem like scum buddies.
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Post Post #3263 (isolation #387) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:40 am

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As I said long ago, I would much more readily consider Titus scum if KAAG flipped scum.
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Post Post #3265 (isolation #388) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:55 am

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Flip KAAG and if he is scum I'll vote Titus tomorrow
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Post Post #3272 (isolation #389) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:54 am

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Oh hey, I do this in like all my games. I hope you used find and replace.
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Post Post #3274 (isolation #390) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:59 am

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I recommend copy pasting into a word editor
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Post Post #3286 (isolation #391) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:33 pm

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In post 3277, Chumba wrote:Day one I'm thinking that blackstar was the attempt at a scum lynch and pants was the counter on town that never should have happened. That was a total policy lynch.
And who pushed that Pants lynch the hardest?
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Post Post #3288 (isolation #392) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:39 pm

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KAAG made the initial case on transcend. I theorized that he may have been getting pressure off blackstar.
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Post Post #3291 (isolation #393) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:52 pm

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By the way infinity, I forgot to answer your question. I think you are good for now, hopefully KAAG flips scum and we are chill.
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Post Post #3303 (isolation #394) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:17 pm

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Can we all agree there's probably 2 scum in {chilled, KAAG, Titus}?

If we can all agree on that then we can just lynch all 3 and we win.
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Post Post #3310 (isolation #395) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:23 pm

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Hey scum notice how no one is scum reading me. Hint hint.

(Please)
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Post Post #3315 (isolation #396) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:28 pm

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I want to get off Killthestory's Wild Ride.
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Post Post #3317 (isolation #397) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:28 pm

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I would go KAAG > Chilled > Titus
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Post Post #3323 (isolation #398) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:31 pm

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Then you will lose. Town needs to work together.
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Post Post #3327 (isolation #399) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:34 pm

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That's a
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