Mini 1812 | Quolls | Endgame

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Hey y'all!

I'll catch up asap!

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Notes from pages 1-3

-Don't like Shadow Steps RVS vote: Naked vote on a person who has not yet posted.
-Shadow Step follows up with a vote on my predecessor when the RVS wagon starts to build. Wondering why he didn't try starting a wagon instead of his naked vote earlier
-Murdercat taking the lead and votes Raskolnikov: good vote.

I need to go right now. I'll finish up on my catchup a bit later.

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-Don't like Shadow Steps RVS vote: Naked vote on a person who has not yet posted.

Are you serious right now? RVS votes are often naked plus only 4 people posted before him, all fluff.
What about hiplop's or dwlee's RVS votes? Also naked.

-Shadow Step follows up with a vote on my predecessor when the RVS wagon starts to build. Wondering why he didn't try starting a wagon instead of his naked vote earlier

Am I stupid or does this not make any sense? How the fuck do you intentionally start a valid wagon 10 posts into the game?

VOTE: All in

My point was that he could have attempted to interact or vote either of the people already in the game. He specifically chose someone not already in the game to vote, without a single comment.

My second point was not that he had to make a valid wagon. I'm saying that he didn't attempt to start a wagon with his first vote, but when a wagon was built, he suddenly was interested. Still without making a single comment.

I'm only posting my thoughts and I only got to page 3 at that point. Are you lacking reads so badly that you had to vote me for this??

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Notes from pages 4-end

-Not really getting Dwlee's point
-KTS: weird and impossible to get a read from.
-starting to like hiplop when he goes after Simple Plan
-the actual content of this game is very poor
-Liking Rasko's posts after his return. Since their return there's been a lot more content to read.
-Vedith's response to Shadow Steps "case" makes sense and was exactly what I expected it to be.
-wagon on Jester seems pointless, as he was telling he had no good reads at all. KTS calling it a "quality wagon" is something that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
-Simple Plan seems to get my problem with Shadow Step's RVS votes. Good.
-Jesters Reads list has Robb as a townread and he most recently voted me. I'd like to hear how he dropped his highest townread to a scumread based on the one post I made.
-Dragon's comment on the personal attack in his catchup post seems unnecessary and pointless.Especially because nothing in the 70 other posts since his V/LA seem to be noteworthy.
-Good Dragon vote from Bella
-Nacho posted 0 content and only setup stuff. This is weirding me out really badly.

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VOTE: Nacho

I know Nacho tends to lurk as scum and the fact that he hasn't provided a single comment on anyone bothers me a lot.

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Notes from pages 1-3

-Don't like Shadow Steps RVS vote: Naked vote on a person who has not yet posted.
-Shadow Step follows up with a vote on my predecessor when the RVS wagon starts to build. Wondering why he didn't try starting a wagon instead of his naked vote earlier
-Murdercat taking the lead and votes Raskolnikov: good vote.

I need to go right now. I'll finish up on my catchup a bit later.

This is horribly nitpicky.

Can you link me to separate games where you've been town/scum?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php

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Notes from pages 1-3

-Don't like Shadow Steps RVS vote: Naked vote on a person who has not yet posted.
-Shadow Step follows up with a vote on my predecessor when the RVS wagon starts to build. Wondering why he didn't try starting a wagon instead of his naked vote earlier
-Murdercat taking the lead and votes Raskolnikov: good vote.

I need to go right now. I'll finish up on my catchup a bit later.

This is horribly nitpicky.

Can you link me to separate games where you've been town/scum?

Also, can you give me your thoughts on your first two votes instead of just handwaiving my point?
Thanks.

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VOTE: Nacho

I know Nacho tends to lurk as scum and the fact that he hasn't provided a single comment on anyone bothers me a lot.

Your meta that I lurk as scum sucks donkey dick.

I'm used to Nacho being obvtown within the first 5 pages.
What do you think about the ASP wagon?

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Notes from pages 1-3

-Don't like Shadow Steps RVS vote: Naked vote on a person who has not yet posted.
-Shadow Step follows up with a vote on my predecessor when the RVS wagon starts to build. Wondering why he didn't try starting a wagon instead of his naked vote earlier
-Murdercat taking the lead and votes Raskolnikov: good vote.

I need to go right now. I'll finish up on my catchup a bit later.

This is horribly nitpicky.

Can you link me to separate games where you've been town/scum?

Also, can you give me your thoughts on your first two votes instead of just handwaiving my point?
Thanks.

First vote, I randomly picked Nacho.
2nd vote I saw a wagon building g on Rob so I got on it to see how far it could go.

Why Nacho out of the entire playerlist?

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The claim game is really distracting from what we should be doing at this point. As much as a town Nacho is very useful, I have seen 0 signs of that.

So I agree that he should come forward and lay out his reads.

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Vote =/= scumread. It's just a tool. Plus when a new player replaces into a slot, it becomes null to me.

That makes 0 sense and feels like a terrible excuse for a terrible vote.

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Okay, this is what I was looking for from Nacho. I only wish he delivered a bit earlier.

You know, Nacho, you have a good point about people looking at you instead of applying pressure themselves. I can only speak for myself, but when I know a good player is in the game, comparing my reads to theirs is something I like to do. Good players who are town don't tend to live long, so matching scumreads are usually an indication for me that I'm on the right track on those reads.

VOTE: Dragon of the west.

Their catchup after coming back from V/LA was very underwhelming.

And the point I made before:

Dragon's comment on the personal attack in his catchup post seems unnecessary and pointless.Especially because nothing in the 70 other posts since his V/LA seem to be noteworthy.

I wouldn't mind lynching this at all.

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Yes All In is conf scum.

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stop stealing my quality memes
I actually have no problem with the DotW vote

you should join the wagon. Your hiplop vote is doing nothing atm.

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I wish more people would vote Dragon of the West.

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Your case is that he said he didn't like your RVS vote and you say that's BS.
Do you have anything else to say?

You're making it out as though you've made a big case and pointed out inconsistencies when what you pointed out reads very insubstantial and not even something anybody really agrees with.
If you're 100% on him scum maybe go into the other 90% of what he said?

Are you kidding me right now?

Notes from pages 1-3

-Don't like Shadow Steps RVS vote: Naked vote on a person who has not yet posted.
-Shadow Step follows up with a vote on my predecessor when the RVS wagon starts to build. Wondering why he didn't try starting a wagon instead of his naked vote earlier
-Murdercat taking the lead and votes Raskolnikov: good vote.

I need to go right now. I'll finish up on my catchup a bit later.

Why didn't you have a problem with this vote? Granted it wasn't a naked vote, but there is no real reasoning. Specifically why didn't you have a problem with not voting someone who had already posted? He could have also voted to form a wagon but did not, why didn't you have a problem with that?

VOTE: ASP

Tempted with the Jester vote, but I feel there's scum on that wagon.

Content to hammer!

Plus when the wagon on Robb(now All in) started to form Vedith said this and didn't jump on that Robb wagon.

There is something really weird going on between these two slots.
I'd prefer a All in lynch now cause that attack on me feels like a chainsaw.

VOTE: All in

Explain me the town motivation behind not responding to this.

You're dwelling on stuff that happened on the first page.
Move on.

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VOTE: Nacho

Let's start here.

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VOTE: Nacho

Let's start here.

Okay, why?

Well, it's very interesting that hiplop was killed, being of the wagon on scum.
He basically has been shouting Nacho is scum the entire time.
ASP was also someone on hiplop's radar.

hiplop is very good at scumhunting, so I think at least one of these 2 must be scum or they would not have killed him. Especially considering the low amount of content hiplop produced.

Simple as that.

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in Before someone handwaives it as wifom.

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So you think Nacho would normally night kill 1 person suspecting him?
Do you think that Hiplop was going to have enough of an impact today instead of yetserday to lynch Nacho?

I think hiplop is someone who doesn't let go when he thinks you're scum. So leaving him alive when he's on to you is the worst thing you can do.
Whether or not he would have enough impact is another story, but he surely has the capability to pull it off.

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I need to reread hiplop but I can pretty much promise you he was on scum.

this so much

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VOTE: KTS

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sorry been a bit busy. I'll catch up today.

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VOTE: KillTheStory

Awful hammer on Simple plan, and on both mislynches.

I still need to do reread but that won't be happening today.

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I think KTS has a bigger chance on flipping scum and Murdercat is a townread for me.

I'm still a bit behind so I will get to reading this evening.

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Why would you cop me btw? I was one of the ppl who were pulling the Dragon wagon the hardest and I wasn't around for the mislynch.

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lmao it's suspicious if I hammer a townie the same way I hammer scum.

Nice try, but I think I'll pass.

Oh please, don't even think about getting away with that.

You hammered scum on the day of the deadline because you had no other option
You hammered town with over 10 days left because it was convenient.

Can we lynch this please.

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Why would you cop me btw? I was one of the ppl who were pulling the Dragon wagon the hardest and I wasn't around for the mislynch.

Well, actually you didn't really do a lot to the wagon. You gave a case and said to vote there, I've seen scum do this and a lot more for town credit.
What actually made me check you was you voting Nacho day 2. I believed that Nacho was being pushed as scum for the night kill, and I didn't like the way you did it.
We didn't have much to go on with day 2 given the quick lynch and the only town thing you had was lynching scum, which lets face it, scum do bus more often than not.

Knowing what I know now, the fact that Bella agreed with me on Nacho means that my thought on the HipLop kill was correct, scum wanted to frame Nacho and when I brought it up, aborted it.

Okay, that actually makes sense.


so we have a guilty on Bella.
KTS is obvscum. Game solved?

we should probably kill the guilty first though, as much as I'd like to kill KTS right now.

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hammering before deadlines means nothing because fuck deadlines.

You're getting rope tomorrow.

VOTE: Bella

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I really like how I pinpointed Dragon and KTS as scum this game. And Vedith was just obvscum after that cop claim

Fun game! Glad I could be a part of it!

<3 Plot!