Mini 1812 | Quolls | Endgame

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VOTE: Nacho

You know why.

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Hello, everyone, my name is Distortion! You probably haven't met me before, but I'm something you'd probably refer to as an 'alter ego.'

I wanted to discuss some things that were bothering me real quick. First off, high activity wins games. The more town discusses and pushes and does 'townie things,' the higher chance for us to win. Please stay active, and I don't even care what alignment you can be. Activity wins games, and I'm going to try to fulfill that requirement ourselves.

I don't believe in setup spec in closed standard games of Day 1.

Nice to meet some of you players I've never played with, and hi to all the players I have played with!

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I wanted to discuss some things that were bothering me real quick. First off, high activity wins games. The more town discusses and pushes and does 'townie things,' the higher chance for us to win. Please stay active, and I don't even care what alignment you can be. Activity wins games, and I'm going to try to fulfill that requirement ourselves.

Actually agree with this but since I'm always the most active player always that won't be an issue for me

Great!

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VOTE: Robb

You're fluffing. Do you do that more as town or scum?

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Hey KTS, hope you read your role PM this time...

Nope : (

sh im just kidding

Hello, everyone, my name is Distortion! You probably haven't met me before, but I'm something you'd probably refer to as an 'alter ego.'

I wanted to discuss some things that were bothering me real quick. First off, high activity wins games. The more town discusses and pushes and does 'townie things,' the higher chance for us to win. Please stay active, and I don't even care what alignment you can be. Activity wins games, and I'm going to try to fulfill that requirement ourselves.

I don't believe in setup spec in closed standard games of Day 1.

Nice to meet some of you players I've never played with, and hi to all the players I have played with!

I don't like this alter ego.

This alter ego doesn't like you, either.

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This alter ego doesn't like you, either.

you're just being intellectually dishonest at this point tbh

I'm sorry baby. Of course I love you.

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fuck kts i was gonna try something weird in this game so i'm not even supposed to be posting here right now but i'm fucking loving hands on the wheel - schoolboy q right now

I listen to classic music. You should try it sometime!

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Murder is better late game.

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I love Mozart.

Anyway, I'm done for this wagon! The day's too inactive anyways. VOTE: Rask

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Actually, I'm not channeling Distortion.

I'll probably channel $wi$h. I just got to channel him, give me a couple seconds.

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Distortion is definitely not as powerful as $wi$h.

Almost done channeling it by the way.

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It actually requires a lot of meditation.

Almost done.

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VOTE: Robbnva

This maybe jumping to conclusions, but I see unengaging entrances like that statistically more often from scum.

Fucking okay, I'd really like to see that because this is absolutely idiotic.

Hello, everyone, my name is Distortion! You probably haven't met me before, but I'm something you'd probably refer to as an 'alter ego.'

I wanted to discuss some things that were bothering me real quick. First off, high activity wins games. The more town discusses and pushes and does 'townie things,' the higher chance for us to win. Please stay active, and I don't even care what alignment you can be. Activity wins games, and I'm going to try to fulfill that requirement ourselves.

I don't believe in setup spec in closed standard games of Day 1.

Nice to meet some of you players I've never played with, and hi to all the players I have played with!

Horrible entrance, so forced. Jesus christ. "Alter ego" my ass, whatever dude.

I do agree with the high activity. It seems we've had a lot of inactivity so far, and I agree with that. Otherwise, the rest of this post is filler and stupid shit.

VOTE: Robb

You're fluffing. Do you do that more as town or scum?

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Hey KTS, hope you read your role PM this time...

I always read my role PM. KTS is a lazy bastard, but I can assure you that I'll be trying to play to my best ability this game.

Hello, everyone, my name is Distortion! You probably haven't met me before, but I'm something you'd probably refer to as an 'alter ego.'

I wanted to discuss some things that were bothering me real quick. First off, high activity wins games. The more town discusses and pushes and does 'townie things,' the higher chance for us to win. Please stay active, and I don't even care what alignment you can be. Activity wins games, and I'm going to try to fulfill that requirement ourselves.

I don't believe in setup spec in closed standard games of Day 1.

Nice to meet some of you players I've never played with, and hi to all the players I have played with!

I don't like this alter ego.

Me neither, honestly.

fuck kts i was gonna try something weird in this game so i'm not even supposed to be posting here right now but i'm fucking loving hands on the wheel - schoolboy q right now

Ha, good song. Pretty sure that KTS has never heard it before, but I'm currently listening to Mick Jenkins - "P's and Q's." Good shit.

Murder is better late game.

Never played with MURDER, but this is such a linear assumption, it hurts.

My gut would basically be to attack rask right now for her obvious contradiction when she voted me. But I suffer from
Omgus a lot so I'm just letting that slide.

I'm surprised somebody else didn't pick up on it or maybe they didn't really notice or even think it's AI.

I like this post. It's taking into consideration any particular bias's this guy might have, and I do that a lot as town. As scum, I clearly am going to have bias's and shit, so there's that.

I love Mozart.

Anyway, I'm done for this wagon! The day's too inactive anyways. VOTE: Rask

You're fucking stupid.

I hate Distortion so much.

Hello, everyone, my name is Distortion! You probably haven't met me before, but I'm something you'd probably refer to as an 'alter ego.'

I wanted to discuss some things that were bothering me real quick. First off, high activity wins games. The more town discusses and pushes and does 'townie things,' the higher chance for us to win. Please stay active, and I don't even care what alignment you can be. Activity wins games, and I'm going to try to fulfill that requirement ourselves.

I don't believe in setup spec in closed standard games of Day 1.

Nice to meet some of you players I've never played with, and hi to all the players I have played with!

VOTE: kts

scum

Agreed, liking Hip so far.

VOTE: Shadow_Step

Hello, everyone, my name is Distortion! You probably haven't met me before, but I'm something you'd probably refer to as an 'alter ego.'

I wanted to discuss some things that were bothering me real quick. First off, high activity wins games. The more town discusses and pushes and does 'townie things,' the higher chance for us to win. Please stay active, and I don't even care what alignment you can be. Activity wins games, and I'm going to try to fulfill that requirement ourselves.

I don't believe in setup spec in closed standard games of Day 1.

Nice to meet some of you players I've never played with, and hi to all the players I have played with!

Hi. This isn't a newbie game. We know this.

Murder is better late game.

Care to offer some supporting evidence? Sounds to me like you're buddying up.

Instinctively, hiplop appears to be in playful town mode; more of a gut read than anything.

Don't mind Distortion, they're fucking stupid. They're always in this "nice to everyone IC mode" bullshit, dude.

Hip seems town because they picked up a wolfy tell from Distortion. While I'm playing in the same slot, I fucking hate how Distortion plays.

Vedith is prob scum.

Didn't pick up anything from him kek

Dwlee is trying to look useful while being hella useless

Same thing you're doing? Like, I'm sure your town, but I'm also null on Dwlee because they haven't done shit, and that's common for him, from what I remember from reading over his games.

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Need more activity please.

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This distortion/kts thing is going to get old really fast.

I'm $wI$h. Don't compare me to either of them.

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Yeah please stop. Pretty please even

Stop what?

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Wagon wagon beep boop

Alert

Quality wagon has been made

I repeat, alert, quality wagon has been made

VOTE: Jester

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Quality wagon has been made

Any reason you find this wagon better than ASP's?

Because Jester actually looks scummy

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Do you understand the concept of WIFOM?

Also, you're self meta is fabulous. Hope you realize it still gets you no where.

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My post has nothing to do with voting whatsoever.

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how is ASP's entrance bad? It looks fine to me

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People's opinions can change, and I can see town doing that more than scum, honestly.

He just looks like bad town.

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Can't you guys have a flame war... Like, on the playground, where, you know, we don't have to hear it?

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I'm gonna go eat, come back, and then hopefully this dick measuring contest will be over.

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MURDER, I think your town. Where do you want to wagon?

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Can't you guys have a flame war... Like, on the playground, where, you know, we don't have to hear it?

I didn't start it and I'm certainly not someone who's gonna back out.
If you have a problem ask the mod to force replace him .

tfw

I

have to tell people to knock their stupid shit off lmao.

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K cool I'll stay on that quality wagon then

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So essentially what you're saying is that anyone who disagrees with you is scum or stupid?

Neat.

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And holy shit you're using what Distortion said to accuse me? I fucking hate Distortion, don't compare me to him.

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Who do you think?

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I modded a game where MURDER was town, and this looks around the same play.

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I'm a spiritual lyrical individual spiritual miracle lyrical individual spiritual miracle individual

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Jester wagon is REAL BAD

You are REAL BAD

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I'm a spiritual lyrical individual spiritual miracle lyrical individual spiritual miracle individual

This is absurd

Absurdly good

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You're face is subject to WIFOM.

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What

Oh, I love this game

The

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Isn't hypoclaiming the thing like on MU where you claim your theoretical peeks if you were a cop, so that cop can stay hidden but also reveal his peeks?

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I'm targeting Vedith

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Wait, who are you targetting?

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MURDER was my N0 Peek, T

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This is a D2 thing, but on MU they have N0 peeks which is why I think he did it D1. Idk tho

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I want to hypo results this game. Thinking out loud, wanted to do this all at once but it seems the longer I put it off until I have a significant chunk of time the longer I put off the game in general.

Also why did you hold off on posting for this? I don't see why this is a priority now and I don't know why planning to hypo results would delay you from getting in the game.

I'd think that hypo results would be a new and foreign concept to a few players here, and ironing it out day is a lot better than doing it day 2 since day 2 is when we have more information and the like. He's just creating discussion here and ironing out the kinks everyone may have early on, so it doesn't waste other discussion day 2.

Also, Nacho's content has generated a lot more discussion which I think is a good thing.

I'm confused why he is using it as an excuse to not post content as well

That is content.

VOTE: nacho

is that really your first post of content

Edgy vote. Seriously though, this vote is terrible.

Welp.
VOTE: Nacho

Another terrible vote, but this one is even worse than Hip's.

Notes from pages 1-3

-Don't like Shadow Steps RVS vote: Naked vote on a person who has not yet posted.
-Shadow Step follows up with a vote on my predecessor when the RVS wagon starts to build. Wondering why he didn't try starting a wagon instead of his naked vote earlier
-Murdercat taking the lead and votes Raskolnikov: good vote.

I need to go right now. I'll finish up on my catchup a bit later.

This catchup sort of sucks. A lot.

-Don't like Shadow Steps RVS vote: Naked vote on a person who has not yet posted.

Are you serious right now? RVS votes are often naked plus only 4 people posted before him, all fluff.
What about hiplop's or dwlee's RVS votes? Also naked.

-Shadow Step follows up with a vote on my predecessor when the RVS wagon starts to build. Wondering why he didn't try starting a wagon instead of his naked vote earlier

Am I stupid or does this not make any sense? How the fuck do you intentionally start a valid wagon 10 posts into the game?

VOTE: All in

????

You can start a good wagon at anytime. l mao He's catchup isn't that bad.

I've only seen that kind of claiming work where everyone has pr? Ughhh.

That's not what it is?

Notes from pages 4-end

-Not really getting Dwlee's point
-KTS: weird and impossible to get a read from.
-starting to like hiplop when he goes after Simple Plan
-the actual content of this game is very poor
-Liking Rasko's posts after his return. Since their return there's been a lot more content to read.
-Vedith's response to Shadow Steps "case" makes sense and was exactly what I expected it to be.
-wagon on Jester seems pointless, as he was telling he had no good reads at all. KTS calling it a "quality wagon" is something that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
-Simple Plan seems to get my problem with Shadow Step's RVS votes. Good.
-Jesters Reads list has Robb as a townread and he most recently voted me. I'd like to hear how he dropped his highest townread to a scumread based on the one post I made.
-Dragon's comment on the personal attack in his catchup post seems unnecessary and pointless.Especially because nothing in the 70 other posts since his V/LA seem to be noteworthy.
-Good Dragon vote from Bella
-Nacho posted 0 content and only setup stuff. This is weirding me out really badly.

Okay, decent catchup.

As was specified, I thought I would be able to do a catchup post, and I wasn't. I'm sorry.

I've sorta skim read everything, and I'm pleased that Nacho is picking up the pace a little bit.
I still like what I said about Shadow's vote on Vedith. He's produced nothing worthwhile, aside from some bs about I have to be scum because I agree with something said by the guy I'm voting for. That's... Bad.

VOTE: Vedith

Last note for now, this isn't the Bella I'm used to, but I agree that I don't really quite get this Nacho thing. I'll have to reread that.

I do know that the next few days are going to be stupid busy for me, though.

Plot:

Putting myself on V/LA until further notice. If I do not post in the next 84 hours (3 days 12 hours, equating to late Sunday my time) please replace me regardless of this message.

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This is decent, I guess.

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I think the nacho votes look ok now.

I think Nacho is trying to employ a strategy that can be confusing, so he's explaining it day 1. If anything, I'd fine that town indicative rather than scum indicative, but I'm still waiting for his content on people.

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I think the nacho votes look ok now.

I think Nacho is trying to employ a strategy that can be confusing, so he's explaining it day 1. If anything, I'd fine that town indicative rather than scum indicative, but I'm still waiting for his content on people.

It has nothing to do with the hypo plan it has to do with me not feeling like I know his reads which is odd.

Well, he hasn't really given out his reads.

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send me a few rap songs and I'll do a shit ton of shit that might generate discussion. i kind of have a headache rn tho, and I'm doing a lot of work.

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ONOMONAPEIA

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holy shit a quad feed

i didn't realize it was lagging that bad

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Yes All In is conf scum.

youre face is confirmed scum

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plot has my back the entire way through this

<3

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V/LA to the 20th

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tfw you get wagonned while V/LA

like where do you expect to get with pressure when there's no one there to pressure?

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$wI$h has been properly channeled.

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If I could just "explain the game" I wouldn't have to make excuses, would I?

You're not trying to play. That's more just lazy and bad than scummy. Do something. Anything.

I haven't gotten into my scumreads yet because I haven't had time to form any; at a glance, I dislike KTS's general interactions with me. As fucked up as it is, I very sincerely appreciate the space that he's given me wrt lurking and wrt the plan but it seems like the amount of space that he's given me is unnatural, which is an interaction I'd expect from a scum-KTS who doesn't expect me to get lynched as town. I haven't really remembered anything that he's posted so far, expected him to find something to work with by now if he was town, but am unaware if lurking is AI for him or not.

You've only played with me for a single day in a single game. I mean, sure, KTS is different, yes. However, I am $wI$h, not KTS. I gave you time to see where you would go, and I do appreciate this read. I think this is a genuine read, but it's made in poor taste since you don't truly understand this form.

The reads feel good though.

I was hoping to find my own answers. There are no answers.

I feel like I have the most responsibility right now and am likely dying but knowing something must be done isn't helping get it done.

Agreed. Nacho reads feel genuine.

No answers to what? I see a lot of likely scum.

Do more then.

VOTE: KTS

Sheepy and I think his read on me is fake.

This is a real wagon that I want to happen.

Not sure how I'm sheepy when I'm the only one opposed to a Nacho lynch.

How was my read on you fake if it was gut townlean? Not sure what you're getting from that.

Bolded part will come into effect soon.

Im sheeping my town reads here.
VOTE: Kts

If Dwlee isn't sheeping, he isn't town.

@Vedith any comment on the nacho thing or on the other slots? What is your actual read on shadow?

Shadow I think is actually looking for scum. I don't think he is going into the right directions though.
Nacho I don't see as scum, I've only played a few games with him though so meta side I can't comment but it doesn't seem off, but I don't really see why others are voting him.
Out of the 3 leading wagons, KTS would be the best (Dragon lynch seems forced).

ASP on the other hand... Tries to make a wagon on me, fails and he gives up.
That's a scum tell in my book.

Jester I'm worried about, he's making it obvious that he wants to put no effort into the game. Personally I see this as a double bluff a roo McGee.

KTS is more fluff in game, a bit like Jester but looks a lot more fake and trying to hide it more.

Murdercat I'm not warming up to yet, didn't like the Nacho comment personal.

UNVOTE: ASP
This doesn't change my read on ASP

VOTE: KTS

This is a terrible post. All filler and no actual real content that helps anyone. Doesn't help that none of these reads feel genuine and instead made up on the spot.

The leniency on v/la probably means no replaces after all today and no extension which sucks. I was hoping for a deadline extension to then snowball into a few replaces and reboot the game tbh.

At this point I'm fine with either kts and now dragon wagon though ASP would still be better if people would ever see it (look at that entrance). Not a fan of bella either but meh.

Legitimately have a few things with KTS and now dragon but I want people to give their own reasons instead of repeating/paraphrasing what I say.

tf you're fine with a lynch on a V/LA person.

tfw

VOTE: KTS

To make things interesting..

tf make what interesting when I'm V/LA.

God damn, I'm vla and I'm the one being sheeped...

I THOUGHT YOU ASKED FOR A WAGON

YOU SCUMMY TOWN CREDIT MONGREL OF SOULS

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And with that, I think Murder is town and that

VOTE: Hiplop

is scum

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Rasko, if I die tonight, I need you and KTS to take up the plan mantle; I will probably have time to explain small things here and there before but I really think it's in town's best interest to have it in place. To answer a question that I left floating a little while earlier, I'm not sure where I fucked it up earlier but:

POSITIVE = Guilty for Cops, Gunsmiths, etc.
POSITIVE = Vanilla for Vanilla Cops/Rolecops?/etc

Make sense?

Alright, hypoclaiming let's go bois

VOTE: Dragon

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actually regardless of kts flip that posting by murdercat was bad
VOTE: Murdercat
let's see the wagon speed of this *eyeroll*

What're your thoughts on KTS depending on murdercat flipping town/scum? I feel like if murder flipped scum it would point to KTS as a partner

KTS' alignment cant be determined from murdercat flip.
Murdercat's cold feet at the end of a wagon randomly like that is EXACTLY what scum me would be doing. See musical mafia where I get cold feet when Im about to lynch my partner after a ton of tunneling. See any of my scum games where I push a town lynch and then at the last minute have second thoughts and begin white knighting the person. Murdercat is scum, I know it. If I die, you lynch murdercat. Or, we could lynch murdercat right now. Either way we are lynching murdercat and if we dont Imma be so mad.

Are you playing the dangerous game of preflip associations?

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oopsies

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I'm not happy with a Rask wagon. I'm okay with a Dragon wagon.

I'd prefer to vote All In as they're my top scumread.

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KTS or murdercat. I guess if I need to I will hammer dragon cause of deadline but I really dont want to cause I hate the wagon.

Why either of us.

dwlee i liked it better when you sheepd' duh people.

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lol my conclusion is fine.

ur dumb.

and so is ur face.

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Yea on second thought I dont want to lynch you today. But in a game I played before with murdercat (probably not actually normal mafia) they didnt say lol in response to pressure ONCE. In fact they said it 2 times in total during the game, 3 if you count him saying "lol I posted in the wrong game" but I dont. This game he has already posted it 8 friggin times.

I can see where you're coming from, but I think you're referring to the game I modded that MURDER was in. I can see it being a town mistake, but I don't like the reaction to it.

I said Murder was town just for shits and giggles, but also to see what other people thought of it. I'm kind of null scum on him, but I'm not at the point where I want to lynch him, if that makes any sense.

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oh lol Murder replaced my slot in that game.

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i want to hammer : )

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I'm guessing we can't swing an ASP lynch last minute?

Was actually going to suggest that, but my reads are kind of jumbled at the moment. I don't want to swing everywhere.

Also, All In is not a scumread. I just wanted to see how people would react to that, but I guess I didn't go outlandish enough.

VOTE: ASP

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Why is dragon at l-1

i put him at l-2

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I don't see a reason to swap from KTS to Dragon.

I think you deserve a noose for this comment, sir.

I'm the most god damn obvtown motherfucker you'll ever meet, if I do say so myself.

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VOTE: DRAGON

H A M M R E

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or maybe h a m r m e

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i can't resist hammers : )

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greetings

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lets wagon myself

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Hey man I'll do stuff Ina bit

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vote asp so KTS can hammer scum again.

VOTE: ASP

GG

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ah fuck I hoped to hammer both of the scum to win the game

can I get the next hammer? I really wanna hammer both scum

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VOTE: Jester

just a filler vote. ill remove it if need be ; )

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I WANT TO HAMMER BOTH SCUM TO WIN THE GAME! ! !

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yw

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wait theres three scum???

fuck

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youre really only voting me because im voting you, and you know it.

regardless, your vote is meaningless because you're scum.

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VOTE: KTS

I know you're a hotshot and all but this is just offensively blatant

"hotshot and all"

"offensively blatant"

the fuck does that even meaN?

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theres at least one scum in the lurkers.

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Aye.

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Dragon of the West (L-0):

Bellaphant, All In, The_Jester,

Raskolnikov

, Nachomamma8, Vedith,

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Nacho I'm null on. I liked his play coming into the game, but he's turned into a lurk sack.

All In, The Jester, and Bella are all in the scumpile.

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Yeah. Also realized I didn't comment on Vedith. He plays town from me remembering the last game I played with him, but that was a while ago. I think you and Dwlee are also town.

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UNVOTE:

I wanna hammer : (

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Nacho would be my theoretical target, town.

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If you lynch me, you're all fucking dumb.
Have fun.

Let's hammer this within the hour pls

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Vote yourself so I can hammer you, and then I'll hammer myself tomorrow.

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Jester I'll hammer anyone in the world if you self voted.

Pretty please ; )

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lmao someone please vote so I can hammer.

I'm sort of done hearing bullshiting rn

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I GOT BROADS IN ATLANTA.

SINGONPANFNA

If Vedith gets to L-1 I'll hammer

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Actually let me pressure vote

VOTE: Vedith

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VOTE: jester

lol sheep

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kk

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So much to have come back to...

I have trouble reading VCs too

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She's scum.
When I die tonight Nacho and All In can be confirmed as town. If we assume 1 more scum it's KTS, Shadow or Murder.
I don't like Murder for scum though.

So for me it's between KTS and MC.
If Bella is conf scum we can lynch her later.
I think we should be lynching between these 2.

LMAO

you always lynch confirmed scum.

shadow just confirmed themselves as scum. You always lynch confirmed scum. You can push others, but you always lynch confirmed scum. Scumteam is shadow/bella

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because you always lynch confirmed scum?

thats like the stupidest question ever

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he said if she were confirmed scum

so basically saying hed leave confirmed scum alive to lynch someone else. thats scummy as all hell.

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no, i think youre just being purposely dense.

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your case is "he said we shouldn't lynch confirmed scum!! no town would ever think that!!"
this is a shallow case; am surprised that you think it's a particularly likely position for scum to take in a first place.

i come from tos forums where scum did shit like this all the time.

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lmao it's suspicious if I hammer a townie the same way I hammer scum.

Nice try, but I think I'll pass.

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fuck you, you don't get a claim.

the people on my wagon are the butthurt ones.

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hammering before deadlines means nothing because fuck deadlines.

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no ty

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VOTE: Bella

yes pls

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We're in LyLo, so it's the most convenient time for Nacho to claim now.

He says here

Vote: Vedith

I'm a Neapolitan with Not Vanilla results on Vedith and KTS (KTS two nights ago, Vedith last night). I don't think that there is town power beyond me + Bella + Rasko.

But why didn't he claim that here after Vedith claimed cop? That makes no sense for both to be in a setup, so why wouldn't Nacho counterclaim then to prevent the mislynch? It's because we're now in LyLo, and they only need one mislynch that they're pushing on me. Nacho made absolutely no mention of Vedith potentially lying yesterday as he planted the doubts that I was scum. Then, they kill All In, my biggest pursuer, to fuck with everyone. Nacho's that good, but he's been lurky. That's his only downfall along with the fact that he didn't counerclaim then.

So what am I at? L1 or L2?
Either way I might as well claim as lynching me is not a good idea.

I'm an x shot Cop.
I can confirm that I checked Nacho and he is town. This is my reason for not thinking he is scum day 2 and today.
I will not confirm if all in was checked unless I am hammered.

Therefore, Nacho and Vedith is our scumteam along with the fact that I don't see MC or Shadow being scum.

Also, I'm a VT. VOTE: Nacho

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Vote on Nacho is there because I'm down for both Vedith and Nacho lynch, but I don't want to hammer Vedith.

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I didn't counterclaim immediately because I was trying to bait you to claim VT before I did so.

Uh-huh. That makes sense. You have 'two confirmed scum' yesterday because you had me as not a VT while you had Vedith claiming cop. AT LEAST one of us would be scum with your story, but clearly you didn't follow that.

hen, they kill All In, my biggest pursuer, to fuck with everyone.

and yes because this is a strategy that makes sense.

You heard of WIFOM, Nacho?

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Anything else to add?

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How did Nacho get a Not vanilla result on KTS if KTS is VT?

Anyway the voting indicates, at least one scum between nacho and vedith, or both are scum and this is their crazy gambit.

Both are scum because Nacho being scum here makes complete sense. It's not Nacho hard gambiting, it's just a smart play. He's hard bussing going into LyLo to make me look like scum for the win. It also explains his lurky behavior and Hiplop's NK along with the fact that Nacho didn't counterclaim yesterday and let the Bella mislynch happen. It also explains why Vedith's target was scum.

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Posted that ahead of time.

Cops don't get fake guilties in normals. If mod wanted fake guilties you'd be a gunsmith. We are lynching vedith today.

Agreed

KTS, I'll read up but it makes sense to me that there scum would come out hard bussing today. And it explains the hiplop kill. And I think you would be the target for a mislynch from Scum's perspective. Vedith who should we lynch today?

KTS or Nacho.
I've already said that you and Shadow cannot be scum together.
I've had you as my town read long enough, and the fact you are actually pushing for a reason why, really tells me town.

KTS could easily be doing a diversion vote where he parks his vote on Nacho until someone else votes me, he's also not had the best game apart from hammering Dragon.
Nacho - Saying that there most likely are no more town roles but yet I'm a scum cop with a JOAT. "CC" at LyLo instead. Says it was too rushed to claim any results, but he was posting enough yesterday after my claim. Comes active in LyLo.

Me figuring out the game by saying you and Nacho are scum? That's not content? I've been doing shit recently, and I'm sure as hell contributing. I don't know what you're talking about. Oh wait, I forgot you were scum talking shit about my play.

Actually, Vedith claimed to have a inno on Nacho which a dangerous thing to do if they are buddies. Hmm

Vedith/KTS

Uh, no it's not? That far into endgame is something scum will either use their targets for or use a random person. It doesn't matter because he's simply pushing a mislynch before he dies, so the targets aren't going to get examined as much as you might think. Your logic is stupid and completely disregards any sort of sense of WIFOM which seems to have a heavy play this game.

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Vote: Vedith

I'm a Neapolitan with Not Vanilla results on Vedith and KTS (KTS two nights ago, Vedith last night). I don't think that there is town power beyond me + Bella + Rasko.

So here's what we have up to here.

I don't see a reason to swap from KTS to Dragon.

Wanting to mislynch me since Day 1, apparently.

I haven't gotten into my scumreads yet because I haven't had time to form any; at a glance, I dislike KTS's general interactions with me. As fucked up as it is, I very sincerely appreciate the space that he's given me wrt lurking and wrt the plan but it seems like the amount of space that he's given me is unnatural, which is an interaction I'd expect from a scum-KTS who doesn't expect me to get lynched as town. I haven't really remembered anything that he's posted so far, expected him to find something to work with by now if he was town, but am unaware if lurking is AI for him or not.

This is where he starts planting the very first doubt. I found his initial play regarding Hypoclaiming town because I thought he was a VT pushing for that to make a kill. The fact that he could be a PR from the hypoclaiming was too obvious, so I thought he was VT. I was extremely confused when Nacho wasn't killed. Like, he was actually legit softclaiming PR through most of D1, but he's still alive? The fuck is that shit?

I don't understand why Shadow is tunneling Vedith.

I think Shadow Step's tunneling on All_In and Vedith looks weird; it looks like he picked their names out of a hat and pushed them. I think that the personal level between him and Vedith makes it seem less like it's coming from scum, but am not horrendously sold on that particular nuance.

Notice that Nacho mentions Vedith's name twice in this entire game before he posted that Vedith is scum.

The two times were soft defending Vedith against Shadow. That's literally it. He doesn't doubt Vedith's claim or push Bella's maybe towny, no. He spends it soft defending Vedith before then going and accusing Vedith as scum. Yeah, hard bussing at it's finest.

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Nacho I don't see as scum, I've only played a few games with him though so meta side I can't comment but it doesn't seem off, but I don't really see why others are voting him.

Soft defending Nacho here.

Out of the 3 leading wagons, KTS would be the best (Dragon lynch seems forced). KTS is more fluff in game, a bit like Jester but looks a lot more fake and trying to hide it more.VOTE: KTS

Pushing me just as Nacho was. Weird, right?

So what was this idea Nacho had to do today?

VOTE: Nacho

Let's start here.

Okay, why?

Soft defending Nacho again.

Do you still think that HipLop was killed to frame Nacho (or highly possible)?

Soft defending Nacho by soft by pulling the WIFOM right for the NK.

This wagon?
Why did you not think it had scum on when you originally voted?
Why not Murder or KTS instead of Nacho or Shadow?

More pushing me and soft defending Nacho.

If you hammer with 12 days left and so little content KTS I'll take that as a scum claim and tunnel the fuck out of you.

So as discussed yesterday, are we doing Nachos idea?

lol

This is all before Vedith claimed cop. Associations are very clear.

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Intent

If you have anything to add vedith now is the time.

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I doubt Nacho's a Neapolitan in the first place. It's easy to fake a power role as scum.

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Also, Shadow, you realize (though it's WIFOM) that MC supported my case on Nacho, and he coincidentally died last night?

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Did you not see the case I made yesterday?

I mean, I can answer any question you have about me. I always try hardest endgame. Always.

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Him voting me to allow a quickhammer is possibly the scummiest thing you can do in a LyLo in case of quickhammering.

You did it, too, Shadow, but the problem is that you're less of a scumbag than Nacho. Don't quickhammer, regardless.

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And that's probably why you killed MC ; ).

Town are going to have a lot of wrong reads. Scum only need to push what they have to, not everything. I kept my options open, so, uh, yeah.

P-EDIT: I'm saying that to Shadow because you're a scum scum, and you know it.

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shut up.

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ah you dicked us

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rest in peace : (

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Yeah plot is pretty great.

I was honestly surprised that I got chosen because I thought I played the Nacho case thing well, but I think the best play at that time were to probably have claimed a PR and pushed that there wasn't going to be that town sided of a setup.

But yeah, good job Shadow!