Anakin ruined TPM way more than Jar Jar did.
...and it's a pretty good pun.
Definitely false.In post 33, PsychoticDave wrote:No one in Game of Thrones is bad.
There's no way you believe that whatever u were doing w/ regards to keyen could possibly have told you anything AI.
UNVOTE:In post 78, Gear wrote:It was an arbitrary choice between last on the Keyen wagon and PsychoticDave for his assessment of the situation.
I like it about 2face. If I had to pick a vote on the wagon that looked contrived. He'd be my first pick.In post 82, JarJarDrinks wrote:UNVOTE:In post 78, Gear wrote:It was an arbitrary choice between last on the Keyen wagon and PsychoticDave for his assessment of the situation.
I actually like this answer.
He explained what it meansIn post 86, keyenpeydee wrote:So what does this mean?In post 80, Gear wrote:In post 61, Gear wrote:Do you think I'm scum?In post 62, keyenpeydee wrote:Yes. Maybe.
Cuz ur "wheeee" looked phony to me. Like you were purposefully trying to act casual w/ ur vote.In post 85, TwoFace wrote:How was my vote contrived? I like easy wagons especially in rvs
agreeIn post 95, Raskolnikov wrote:I actually think keyen could be scum here
It's not. And he's already made a serious vote previously:Tywin Lannister wrote:Is this -grey-'s first post? I'm too lazy to check on my phone. Still, I'd say we are past RVS -grey-, so I second Two Face's question. Why?
In post 27, -Grey- wrote:VOTE: PsychoticDave
Looks like you are more concerned about appearances than finding scum.
Looking back, I'd say ur right and they all look like they're trying to be casual.In post 122, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:JarJar - what makes you pick out TwoFace's vote as the casual one over Vijarada's and mine?
I actually think that's a fine reason to vote someone @ this point in the game.In post 126, TwoFace wrote:Vijarda. That was terrible reasons to vote someone. They aren't AI things.
unprompted self-metaing is scummy.In post 130, gerryoat wrote:This is a bad vote because you've played with me enough to know I say this every game.
Why is his vote on you bad if the reasoning isn't?In post 131, gerryoat wrote:His vote on me is bad, but his reasoning isn't bad.
No I think that most people in RVS don't take shit seriously. He was very serious about his "reaction-test" and treated the results of it legitimately. It was clearly not RVSing.In post 132, gerryoat wrote:I would argue that everyone has fake ass scumhunting in RVS stage, because it's voting people and looking for reactions. So, is there a deeper reason why you think his scumhunting is fake? Is it possible that you have meta with him and his wording seems different this game?
Yup.In post 138, gerryoat wrote:If you read someone saying you were scummy, how do you not know who said it?In post 137, keyenpeydee wrote:Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat
Good description.In post 143, Raskolnikov wrote:You sound awkward and come off pretty self-conscious, in particular you play it cool in your reaction and pretend like you aren't nervous when it feels like the complete opposite.In post 137, keyenpeydee wrote:Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat
Agree that there was no good reason for the original wagon. My last bunch of posts though I think point out some legit scumminess.In post 159, Tywin Lannister wrote:Aside from that little rant, can someone explain the keyan wagon with any clarity besides 'this looks contrived' or 'self-consciousness' as if it is anything other than your feels? That wagon got loaded fast without much of anything worth mentioning. I see a lot of 'I feel like this, I feel like that' without evidence to back up those feelings
I'll let rask answer but I think you're reading too much into it. I have rask as a strong townread.In post 164, Tywin Lannister wrote:Hmm. I didn't have it as a scum read at all really against Lil Uzi. Looked inconsequential, but I didn't like Rask's shut down followed by calling the game 'newbie' as an aside. It seems Rask is trying to avoid conversation here, and regardless if the question was about an older post (this game hasn't even been active long enough for that time lapse excuse), what exactly was wrong with the question to shut it down and claim 'this is so newbie' after? Rask said it was a joke, and then called it ridiculous for others to not take it that way.
I find all that to be far too defensive for little reason. Aside from defensive, it has not-so-subtle barbs littering the whole post sequence. Elitism/ego at work, or scum shutting down anything before it starts? If Rask is such a light hearted player who jokes oh so much, then why am I reading it differently than supposedly intended? Maybe the humor is forced? Otherwise, it may just be bad.
Your thoughts Rask?
Yeah I think it's pretty unreasonable to expect that.In post 165, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:It wasn't the style of his post, it was the content of his post. Anyone who would say this:In post 146, Raskolnikov wrote:Lol WTF what kind of expectations are theseIn post 122, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:VOTE: Gear
Voting TwoFace arbitrarily looks bad to me. You should be able to tell that Dave's post is one of someone who is more used to a faster paced mafia environment where random speedwagons are common D1, so he shouldn't be a consideration.
Clearly, you should be able to infer from the style of his posting that he is from a faster paced environment, and in such environments speedwagons are more common, so he shouldn't be a consideration for you based on that.
Jesus christ what is this projection do you actually expect this much out of people?
Not to mention that even if true that doesn't somehow clear, it would just make the thing nullish.is clearly is used to an environment where keyen might have actually been speedlynched for no reason. The fact that Keyen wasn't lynched is not because scum don't want to lynch their buddy or because people (town) are being cautious. It should be apparent to everyone involved that the wagon is not going to reach 7 because scum won't hammer town at that point in the game (because it gives them away) and town won't hammer anyone at that point in the game (because it gets them killed the next day). Gear should not have read that post and taken it seriously enough to consider voting Dave for it, he should have been able to tell it was a post indicating Dave's experience, not alignment.In post 63, PsychoticDave wrote:Either keyenpeydee hasn't been lynched yet because scum don't want to lynch their buddy, or people are being cautious.
One of the two, really...
It does make things nullish, that's the point. Gear chose between voting 2 people arbitrarily (according to him) and ended up on TwoFace. However, by choosing arbitrarily he implies that they are equally suspicious, or at least that they are close to the same level of suspicion. Since Dave's post is NAI, the choice should not be arbitrary between Dave and TwoFace. It should be a clear choice of TwoFace unless Gear thinks that TwoFace's vote was also NAI, and if TwoFace's vote was also NAI Gear should be looking someplace else for something scummier or just keep his vote on keyen since it's just random there.
Do you really think it's unreasonable to expect people to recognize what I did about Dave's post?
seriously?In post 167, keyenpeydee wrote:I'm on my mobile at that time. Your argument on me is invalid.
tywin looks town to me.In post 180, TwoFace wrote:if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.
cause I'm good.In post 185, TwoFace wrote:for realz? idk how anyone can have a strong town read at this point in the game.In post 181, JarJarDrinks wrote:I have rask as a strong townread.
maybe but still wouldn't scumread him based on that alone.In post 186, TwoFace wrote:right, but if key is scum his reaction to the key wagon makes more sense from a scum buddyIn post 184, JarJarDrinks wrote:tywin looks town to me.In post 180, TwoFace wrote:if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.
remind me again. what r YOU'RE reads?In post 192, keyenpeydee wrote:2F, your reads are as shit as ever.
So explain to me how his argument is invalid then?In post 190, keyenpeydee wrote:Of course you can't confirm to yourself whether I'm telling the truth or not.In post 183, JarJarDrinks wrote:seriously?In post 167, keyenpeydee wrote:I'm on my mobile at that time. Your argument on me is invalid.
man used the wrong "your" and even emphasized it.In post 194, JarJarDrinks wrote:remind me again. what r YOU'RE reads?
Just seems wierd to say someones vote for you is bad simply because you're town. What's the point?In post 202, gerryoat wrote:It's bad because I'm town, but his logic shows that he's at least trying to scumhunt. Just because someone votes you doesnt mean they are mafia or making up reads. That's what I was trying to get across.In post 174, JarJarDrinks wrote:Why is his vote on you bad if the reasoning isn't?In post 131, gerryoat wrote:His vote on me is bad, but his reasoning isn't bad.
See that's an actual reason to call someone's vote bad.In post 130, gerryoat wrote:This is a bad vote because you've played with me enough to know I say this every game.
WTF is this?In post 207, PsychoticDave wrote:I caught up and still have null reads on pretty much everyone...
I agree w/ his keyen read and I like how he questioned Vijars shitty townread on him (which BTW Vijar ignored).In post 212, Gear wrote:Can you explain your rask read?
huh what was that post about then?In post 223, keyenpeydee wrote:That quote on Vijarada is not serious btw.
Ok so why isn't it serious?In post 227, keyenpeydee wrote:It's just much more like saying that he's scum because it's what he's doing to all players when we're scum together.In post 226, JarJarDrinks wrote:huh what was that post about then?In post 223, keyenpeydee wrote:That quote on Vijarada is not serious btw.
I've explained reasons for scumreading you.In post 227, keyenpeydee wrote:And are you dodging my question?
Got anything specific?In post 252, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually JJD seems pretty scummy upon ISO
This post is LITERALLY ON THE SAME PAGE as those 2 quotes that he just said he's scumreading me for.In post 99, Gamma Emerald wrote:JJD feels like town. Gear too.
lol. Reads change based on things that happen. You're trying to say that you changed your read based on something that happened BEFORE you made your initial read?In post 264, Gamma Emerald wrote:OK, reads changeIn post 263, JarJarDrinks wrote:This post is LITERALLY ON THE SAME PAGE as those 2 quotes that he just said he's scumreading me for.In post 99, Gamma Emerald wrote:JJD feels like town. Gear too.
Is this really ur defense?In post 267, Gamma Emerald wrote:My earlier reads were half assed
No he most certainly did NOT say it was a joke in the very same post. It was the next post.In post 285, Vijarada wrote:This is reaching HAAAAARD from JJD. He made a joke referencing a previous game where we were scumbuddies, then said it was a joke in the very same post. That's just being sillly, and JJD's attempt to read it otherwise falls flat. Do you really think JJD that key wouldn't have just edited it out before posting if he realised he contradicted himself?
Me neither. Though tywins vote is still from rvs and and gear hasn't been around in for a while.In post 297, Raskolnikov wrote:Huh, didn't realize this wagon was this big.
Agree w/ all theseIn post 299, Raskolnikov wrote:People who I'd consider good votes atm:
keyen
psychodave
gamma emerald
I think you're talking about this post:In post 313, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:And JJD, if part of your reason for TRing Raskol was that he questioned a shitty tr on him (213), why do you continue to TR her when she inconsistently ignores your shitty TR on her?
the "him" is referring to keyen. Rask pointed out that vijars read on keyan was bad in 98In post 213, JarJarDrinks wrote:I agree w/ his keyen read and I like how he questioned Vijars shitty townread on him (which BTW Vijar ignored).
This.In post 314, Raskolnikov wrote:One of the best towntells is when you scumread someone but don't explain it and then someone comes along and explains it and it's what you have.
In post 320, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Gamma, let's see his full case on you first and your response. I have a feeling he'll deliver.
I thought what I posted already was pretty good. Maybe I didn't explain it well though. I'll try to lay it out better.In post 322, gerryoat wrote:Oh wait, I forgot he flipped to gamma lol. Yeah, that one looked like OMGUS at first site. But, we'll see what he has to say about that.
So then lotsa stuff happens and Gamma read changesIn post 99, Gamma Emerald wrote:JJD feels like town. Gear too.
Ok, no issue so far. Reads change and I've made a few dozen posts since the fisrt read. So I want to see what posts of mine made him change his read:
and he responds with:In post 254, JarJarDrinks wrote:Got anything specific?
like wow. this is horrible for so many reasons.In post 255, Gamma Emerald wrote:This looks like shoddy distancingIn post 82, JarJarDrinks wrote:UNVOTE:In post 78, Gear wrote:It was an arbitrary choice between last on the Keyen wagon and PsychoticDave for his assessment of the situation.
I actually like this answer.
then when I explain that reads should only change based on NEW content he says:In post 264, Gamma Emerald wrote:OK, reads change
So he's using the "those weren't REAL reads" defense. Then he says:In post 267, Gamma Emerald wrote:My earlier reads were half assed
As if to imply that someone forced the reads out of him. But go back and read page 4. He gave those reads completely voluntaraly w/o prompting from anyone.In post 270, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah
I just threw out some reads based on a few seconds of analysis
This is why I like giving reads at my own pace, it lets me form actually solid reads
In post 363, gerryoat wrote:back to back bad votes imo
In post 67, Gear wrote:I've played with Keyen before, I was scum, and had a front row seat to him OMGUSing everyone who suspected him (among other things, but that's what's relevant here). I saw that from him here, and it's good enough for me for now. Now, I am voting someone new.
If I tried Fried Oreos and I thought they were were delicious and then later found out that they were made with rat testicle, then I would no longer like them.In post 371, keyenpeydee wrote:If you find a food delicious at the first time but saw some things you don't like on it, It can very much change your look on it whatever you say it's not disgusting.