Mini 1415: Fairly Oddparents Mafia Game Over

[kiwieagle]

Holy shit biscuits can people calm the fuck down
Its 8 pages of shit because everything was nullified due to the mod's post of no strategies.

Can't say I am

that

sad because now we can do weird shit with our muffins (Which is why I joined in the first place...) instead of making this game boring as hell with all of us just doing whats told...

For shit and giggles another strategy that could work is:
Night 1, wish for 12 guns.
Day 2, shoot everyone.
Town win.

Either Peregrine is town or he is the hypothetical crafty scum that fakes great ignorance of the setup in order to towntell which I always think about but never run in to.

Ignorance is a null tell to be honest.
I have done it as both mafia and town.

[kiwieagle]

^ ment to say no gamebreaking strategies.

and
VOTE: Vifam

Just because I got late to the party doesn't mean I cant have my own random vote!

[kiwieagle]

You've read the eight pages enough to call them shit. You must have more than that.

Well what do you want me to say?
The first few pages were Vifam and Balrog basically breadcrumbing their role name which was... useless since we are all the same role.
Then you talked about how you could exploit this game... which you now can't.
Then you talked about whether or not restarting the game.... which you didn't.
Then you talked about how Zephyr made a stupid mistake... which was dumb since it is a null tell.


Happy?

[kiwieagle]

I know there is more to dat vote Kiwieagle

IF you want to take about votes why dont we talk about this:

Woops. I'm Tad. I thought Tad was the black one, but I'm the white one and the white one is Tad.
I got the names confused. Sorry.
Visual memory and all that stuff...

Uh, what? You get a picture of the kid you have in the PM. Are you blind?

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Zeph

Just as long as this isn't still your case, we're cool.

Explain to me how making a mistake is a scum tell (lol).

[kiwieagle]

Then why did you vote him?

To your question: Veronica.

[kiwieagle]

So you vote him because of this:
Because I thought his first post coming in was bad, add that up to "mistake" and the fact that no one else was really standing out as really scummy at the time aside from Grine, it seemed like a viable wagon

But your post clearly says this:
Uh, what? You get a picture of the kid you have in the PM. Are you blind?

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Zeph





Lol ok.
That was pretty bad backtracking if you ask me.

[kiwieagle]

Vifam, so once your wagon starts to fail and everyone starts to realize how idiotic it is to start a wagon based on a mistake (Someone already claimed Chad for christ sake.) you go make another one?
Lol ok.



Everyone who is on the Zephyr wagon is either an idiot or scum. Especially when you just quote this:

Woops. I'm Tad. I thought Tad was the black one, but I'm the white one and the white one is Tad.
I got the names confused. Sorry.
Visual memory and all that stuff.


and then vote.
Are you fucking kidding me? Do you have any idea how retarded you look?

[kiwieagle]

Also, just fyi (Just in case peoplke have not noticed...) my vote on Vifam is not random.
Like seriously, we have someone who loves to call people scummy for really BAD reasons and then back track whenever someone calls her out.

[kiwieagle]

Sorry for my triple post, but its hard getting use to the fact that I cannot edit <.<



Vifam's case on me is basically:
OMG HE CALLED ME SCUM SO HE IS SCUM.




Inb4backtrack

[kiwieagle]

Actually my vote was random since your the only person I recognize <.<


It isn't now though.
And you did backtrack, deny it all you want anyone can see it whenever they want.
All they have to do is look at your post with the vote on it, and then look at what you said after I said that was a bad vote.


And please dont talk about shitty cases when you have things like your Zephyr mistake case, and now your backing away from it since you are now "doubtful" after I called you out for it.
Not only that but your "scum list" consists of people who have called you scum (mostly at least) so you obviously seem to have better reasons than my supposed "shitty" cases

[kiwieagle]

So is L is going to get replaced or what?

I see her posting even after she requested replacement and the mod hasn't actually done anything <.<


Captaineddie was opportunistic as fuck though so theres that..


Also, to Seanald: If you want to argue that Vifam is town fine w/e I can argue back, but if your going to give me bollocks reasons like she has no "self preservation" or "posts in short bursts and is super hyper" then dude seriously man? Thats individual playstyle, which usually has nothing to do with alignment.



Last thing:
Lol so Balrog entered Zephyr's wagon with shitty reasons and now leaves it with SHITTIER reasons. (He says Zephyr sucks at Mafia, and thats why he got "confused")
Considering voting Balrog to be honest...

[kiwieagle]

I've already ripped your argument three times over and you haven't responded so you're def. not willing to argue

You have never "ripped" my argument.


You just added some bullshit reasoning to your vote which you failed to mention in your actual vote which just makes me think you actually never had those reasons in mind when you cast the vote.


Also, Balrog you voted Zephyr because he did a.. mistake.



And.. captaineddie the -L- adding her name to the list is retarded not scummy. Why are you still voting her...?



Huh what the fuck? Why are people so in love with Vifam? First she being "super hyper" is towny, and now her "dialing it back" (meaning not being super hyper) is ALSO towny. What is NOT towny for her to do? Like seriously people ?
Not only that but everyone who CALLS her scummy is scum. First, me. Now, PV.


Sheesh people.

[kiwieagle]

To the point I did about Balrog:
I was answering his question about "why was my [as in his, Balrog] reasoning bad"

[kiwieagle]

You just added some bullshit reasoning to your vote which you failed to mention in your actual vote which just makes me think you actually never had those reasons in mind when you cast the vote.

That's not the point, the point is I obviously had my suspicions prior and you keep implying that my fos came out of the sky SOLELY for that mistake, which, isn't true because once again, I had expressed my suspicions of him earlier. The mistake was just the icing on the cake on my suspicion and made him more of a viable wagon.

But you're not gonna argue that and you're simply going to act like you are the victim.

I had a really good post and I deleted it so am currently frustated so I shall be succint.


1. How the fuck am I playing the victim?

2. @Benmage, Peregrine's wagon also sucks because its only case on him is: "he did a bad case on Vifam". Which is not much, and heck I dont see how its that bad. Vifam is doing a bunch of random bullshit for shit and giggles, I mean what do you gain from having all the role names as town?


3. I had a really good fucking case on Balrog and I deleted nuuuu fuck. Well heres a shittier version since I dont have that much time anymore and well fuck I am frustrated at retarded google chrome who just fucking died out of nowhere.







Ok so here we have a player called Balrog.

Balrog right of the bat calls Vifam obvscum who should be lynched ASAP.

Vifam says Balrog is "town 4 sure".

Had Balrog been town, he would have gone "Lol bitch I dont care what you think I am, your scum so die."
But no.
ScumBalrog instead goes: "HMMMM People calling me town = good! I just have to call the people who call me town, town and then follow their wagons, and I ScumBalrog shall never be lynched."
So instead of pursuing Vifam he just fucking FORGETS about her, and never continues his initial case on her because as scum he would get no benefit from doing it since people were calling her town and he would be going against the majority. Being "noticed" as scum is a big no-no, so yeah just follow the big wagons and agree with them, right? Well thats we he did. His next post is ... guess what? ... Yep! You guessed it! Its him joining the largest wagon and basically just agreeing with Vifam.

Before I continue with my Balrog case... let me just say a quick thing. Scum... are NOT stupid. Scum usually DONT act "scummy" and if they do... its usually not that obvious. Scum... usually DONT want to get noticed. They are usually CAREFUL with the shit they do. If Zephyr was scum he would of not DONE A MISTAKE LIKE THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE... he would get NOTICED. He would of made sure NOT to make mistakes like those. I made this side note not because of the Zephyr wagon, but in general. When looking for scum DONT LOOK FOR OBVIOUS THINGS. What would Peregrine gain as scum by calling Vifam scum when the general consesus is that she is town? NOTHING. All he gained was votes... which is NOT GOOD.


Ok let me continue with my Balrog case. Ok so by now you must be thinking "ERR WELL YOUR CASE IS INVALID CAUSE BALROG IS CONFTOWN", and well I am going to be honest here and tell you: I, at first, did not want to make this case. People would think I am being stupid by trying to attack conftown, and just lynch me and call me scum. But you know what? Fuck it. I want town to win, so its in my interest to do this. Scum have EQUAL if not MORE reason to make a game breaking strategy. You dont have to be a genius to make one, so heck if someone else is eventually going to find one, why not do it yourself and be the FIRST one to do it = get a shitload of townie points? Not only that but if are the first, and then the mod changes the rules THANKS to you (did anyone honestly believe the mod would allow shit like that to occur?) ? Yay! You just got fucking near CONFTOWN status.

So theres my case.
Sort of dissapointed I lost the earlier one I had done, but oh well.

unvote

Vote: Balrog

[kiwieagle]

That double posting was accidental, and if the mod could delete it, I would appreciate it

Mod Note: Done.

Also Vifam,

u mad bro?

[kiwieagle]

Well, I will continue saying dumb things and pushing dumb cases for dumb reasons when you have shit like Peregrine's and Zephyr's wagon.



Also, I got the wrong spoiler tags. Aww. Anyways, I improved it.

Spoiler:

I lied.
U mad bro?

[kiwieagle]

Well I will use my wish to become a Reflecting Shit.


OOO CHECKMATE.

[kiwieagle]

You know what would be a funny wish?
You force someone else to write in sonnets.

hahahaha that would be HILARIOUS.
I am seriously considering to do it on you.




anyways, I think I already explained why.

[kiwieagle]

OR maybe forcing them to say "I am stupid." at the end of their every post.


hahahah I can already imagine it...


But I will expand on my logic:


If Pere was scum he probably wouldn't be voting you right now and instead voting me since I am an easy target. Or someone like Zephyr.

[kiwieagle]

If you had called him scum instead of town, I can assure he would still be calling you scum and trying to lynch you.



Calling someone town works wonders.


Also, I can tell you skimmed my post.

[kiwieagle]

Can you explain to me how making a game breaking strategy is considered conftown?


Look, I am gonna go make one right now. Give me a couple of seconds.

[kiwieagle]

If you wanna make a meta case, meta me not Fate.

[kiwieagle]

Can't you technically say "If X (For example, Vifam) uses a faction kill, then shoot him/her", and if they decide to reverse it and try to "backfire" your wish then it will be basically "If X DOESNT use a faction kill, then shoot him" but then if he reversed it, it means that he DIDNT faction kill so he still will probably get shot anyways?


It does say think outside the box, and theres nothing saying you can't use "Ifs" like that.

[kiwieagle]

It's that easy - just vote Pere and you wont be dumb

It's that easy - just vote Pere and you wont be dumb

And if I dont?

What will you do?
Call me scum? Lynch me?


Well, if your scum gratz you have one less townie to worry about. But if your town... gratz you just lose someone who could have used 2 wishes which could have helped you win.


Like seriously...

He votes Zephyr... and hes suddenly OK. But the moment he even MENTIONS your name... hes insta scum.



Vifam, just because someone doesnt agree with YOU, or decides to call YOU scum it does not mean THEY are scum.
Its an UNINFORMED majority.

A townie probably goes through the thought process of "oh well scum will obviously target me since they know who is who", but the truth is thats usually NOT true.
Townies have as much of a chance as voting you as scum.

[kiwieagle]

People can be so narrow minded <.<
I just give up.



How can making a fucking gamebreaking strategy be considered obvtown?


Klick look: Making... a ... gamebreaking.... strategy.... in.... a... flawed.... game.... is..... easy.... as.... shit. If I had not fucking entered this game 8 pages in heck it could of been me. It could of been ANYONE.


People use such SIMPLE logic when finding scum. "OH HERP DERP HE GOES AGAINSt THE MAJORITY, SCUM WOULD OBVIOUSLY DO THAT." , "OH HERP DERP HE TRIES TO FIND SCUM BY BLAMING UNLIKELY (Or just people who are considered "town" in general) PEOPLE. OBV SCUM."

Scum want YOU to believe they are town. So if you think someone is town... well hey who knows if he is?


And all Balrog can do is call people bad at Mafia. Thats his favorite argument lol. Got in a fight with Vifam? Lol she sucks at Mafia! Fighting with Zephyr too? Lol he just sucks at Mafia!

Balrog get off your high-horse, you aren't that great either. Your just extremely lucky you: 1. Were one of the first posters, and had the opportunity to exploit an easily exploitable game, and 2. Have a bunch of nincompoops who just go "MOD CONFIRMED TOWN! CAUSE FUCK LOGIC!" that even if you were to call everyone scum in a single post, they would silll go "LOL WELL HE EXPLOITED AN EASILY EXPLOITABLE GAME. LIKE WHY WOULD SCUM DO THAT?!"

[kiwieagle]

Can anyone tell me why L has 3 votes?


And MrZepher who are you referring to?

[kiwieagle]

@Adkorable Well it really depends. I have no qualms with such a thing, but maybe some people do since it will screw them over or force them to lie so then scum don't fuck them up.

[kiwieagle]

Yeah shoot me.

This game is retarded <.<

[kiwieagle]

Props to benmage for being unique.

Also lol at Vif saying Benmage's wishes were dumb when she was a tree stump <.<

Other thoughts can be found in the dead QT.