Mini 1415: Fairly Oddparents Mafia Game Over

[-L-]

My inexperience is limited to this site. It is a different culture, and very intimidating when in a game like this. I've been playing mafia a long time.

I'll post more when I get home.

[Benmage]

Yes

I'm allowed to have null reads, don't go complaining about them as if everyone is some sort of scumhunting god

Certainly.

But you haven't prodded at him, asked him any questions, or commented on anything he's done. (Distancing much?)

How can you change this null read if you don't prod?

Why is he null to you? You have literally zero opinion on anything he's done?

[Human Destroyer]

He's null because I don't find his posts particularly townish, but I don't find them particularly scummy either.

I'll prod who I feel like when I feel like it, tyvm.

[PeregrineV]

Let's talk about our favorite episode.

Mine is Chin-Up, because the whole superhero with a superchin is funny, and it was the first episode I ever saw.

[Seanald]

wtf is that a post restrict or some shit. but anything with Jorgen in it, or that old rich guy who wears all white and a cowboy hat.

[-L-]

So are people onto PV because they know his meta, and he's so ...random?

[PeregrineV]

So are people onto PV because they know his meta, and he's so ...random?

Just making the game more interesting.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:

[Seanald]

who were you even voting?

[Benmage]

Seanald, you need to bullet for me why L is scum to you.

Or sheep me to PV.

[Vifam]

who were you even voting?

Zeph

[Seanald]

Seanald, you need to bullet for me why L is scum to you.

Or sheep me to PV.

Cuz I've been where -L- is right now, and I would only feel that way if I was scum, she seems afraid to post because she is worried that no matter what she types she'll be pegged, unfortunately that sentiment always leads to being pegged. I don't understand her hesitation if she is town, as town you don't need to be afraid or worried like that, and now All im going to see is ATE from her posts because thats exactly what I would do, doesn't matter how bad you are at the game you can still pull off ATE.

Ill sheep you if you convince me -L- is a bad idea, or that PV is indeed scum.

[numberQ]

Vote Count (1.3)

-L- [3] Seanald, Balrog, captaineddie
adorkable [0]
Balrog [0]
Benmage [1] Sanjay
captaineddie [0]
Human Destroyer [0]
kiwieagle [0]
Klick [1] MrZepher
MrZepher [1] Klick
PeregrineV [2] adorkable, benmage
Sanjay [0]
Seanald [0]
Vifam [2] kiwieagle, PeregrineV

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Not Voting:

-L-, Human Destroyer, Vifam

Deadline:

(expired on 2013-02-12 16:45:00)

[MrZepher]

There should be zero reason to be afraid of honesty.
Also there are currently 2 votes out of play. No me gusta.

[Human Destroyer]

Actually 3 are

Mine's not listed for some reason

Mod Note: Fixed.

MrZepher and Klick, a quick reads list from each of you please. (If you made one already just quote it)

[MrZepher]

Sanjay - Reads like he's trying to take information and sort it out which is very townie motivated imo, haven't paid much attention to him otherwise hence null leaning town
HD - Questioning a town read on himself isn't something I normally see scum do, plus general townie motivated questioning
Dork - post #241 hit my soft spot for town reads

The more I look at Kiwi the less sure I am of a town read. Hes going after somebody that's worth so little information. I'm just not entirely sure.

Pere - Like said. WIFOMtastic. I'm not sure how I feel about that and his general disinterest towards giving us non-vital information seems odd
Bal - Spam for 5 pages between him and Vi and his attacks on Vifam earlier in the day didn't really sit well with me.
Klick - says as little as humanly possible. Doesn't pursue anyone (other than me and he never actually explicitly gave a reason). Doesn't strike me as town.

Everyone else is either null or I haven't really looked into them yet..... so null.
Top 3 are town, bottom are scummier

[Benmage]

Plus when you post town reads there's no reason to post yourself as town.... It's a silly thing to nitpick at but his general posting style doesn't seem to warrant that kind of behavior.

I often stick myself in my own townreads.

Zeph, I really don't like your Klick vote. Other than being an isolated one, this string of posts read genuine town to me:

I feel cheap, because there are a few obvious town due to this.

I was thinking HD and Balrog as near-confirmed.

Vifam is also likely town for questioning fakeclaims.

This one too.

So now we have the following as town:

Me
Balrog
HD
Sanjay
PV
Vifam (probably)

Basically I don't forsee Klick hanging today.

Please switch your vote to PV. You have him listed as scum anyways.

[MrZepher]

Uhhhh no.

#90 doesn't mean anything to me
#97 his reasoning later was thin at best and his choice of words makes me less inclined to trust his opinion
#99 lol

I don't know if I want Klick to hang yet. I want him to respond in some way that's conducive to moving the game forward instead of showing up just enough to not warrant any suspicion. Until then my vote probably won't move until I see a better place to put it. 18 days until deadline means I can try to gather information for now.

Besides I don't really know what to make of PV yet and he has yet to provide more information for me to work with sooooo
The only thing I'll say is that I don't see a ton of motivation in either direction which makes him less than town but not enough for me to think he's worth lynching.
He could just be an asshole.

[adorkable]

Half of this hydra will be semi-V/LA for the weekend.

Seanald makes a good point in 411, but to counter that: I've been there as town AND scum, so it's really a nulltell.

For -L-, I'll give my typical opinion on lurkers: if it came down to either L vs No Lynch or L vs solid townread, I'd vote her today. Otherwise she's not a good D1 wagon. If she continues to active lurk/not provide content/whatever, that's a different story.

I'll talk to other!head when (s)he gets home to get more input on this situation.

@Klick

: hey again, pookie. Why's HD near-confirmed? I didn't notice that post till Bm quoted it.

[kiwieagle]

So is L is going to get replaced or what?

I see her posting even after she requested replacement and the mod hasn't actually done anything <.<


Captaineddie was opportunistic as fuck though so theres that..


Also, to Seanald: If you want to argue that Vifam is town fine w/e I can argue back, but if your going to give me bollocks reasons like she has no "self preservation" or "posts in short bursts and is super hyper" then dude seriously man? Thats individual playstyle, which usually has nothing to do with alignment.



Last thing:
Lol so Balrog entered Zephyr's wagon with shitty reasons and now leaves it with SHITTIER reasons. (He says Zephyr sucks at Mafia, and thats why he got "confused")
Considering voting Balrog to be honest...

[Vifam]

I've already ripped your argument three times over and you haven't responded so you're def. not willing to argue

[adorkable]

Who was that in response to? Sorry, I'm being slow today.

[-L-]

VOTE: balrog

Going with my gut on this one.

I didn't like the way he tried to lead the town and try to game it - although I tried to look for a clever loophole in his idea I did not find it (a loophole that would result in one backfire targeting multiple people). After that, his wording made me think he was jealous of townies' ability to make wishes. And this insight by another person about his votes on and off vifam make me do this.

[Balrog]

Slept late. Post later.

[Balrog]

@kiwi: Then vote me. I don't ever recall stating that I was confused, only that I was not always capable of discerning awful town from scum. As the quality of his posting has not improved since then, I can only presume that this is how he always plays. What exactly was so terrible about my reason for voting him initially?

@L: I can't quote when I'm phone posting but rest assured that I will deconstruct your last post sufficiently.