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In post 32, Balrog wrote:thanks mom
If this was it this was friggin' garbage, Balrog. Lots of people have mothers.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I am very excited you asked.
I've been breadcrumbing my role for my entire life.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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If we are going to just break the game, we might as well just all wish to be 1-shot cult recruiters who can recruit the dead.
Day 2, we have the mafia claim and we recruit them.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Well, my plan only uses one wish, so we can all use our second wish to WISH that we hadn't broken the game with a lame plan.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Balrog, if you aren't having enough fun making wacky wishes, you can come over to my place later and we can play Jenga.
We will have a barrel of laughs.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I assumed that the mod would just ignore coordinated wish efforts to break the game. I hoped he would anyway. I signed up to this thing to make wacky wishes.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Vifam, is you posting this free and devil-may-care an obv-town thing, or can you pull that off as scum?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I just asked Q if he'll throw back wishes based on them being part of coordinated town efforts, and apparently he won't.
So game on as far as breaking the game goes.
I just really really really really don't want us to be successful.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I just asked Q and apparently wishes can change alignment. Mafia claim. We change them to town. BOOM.
Broke the game in three wishes.
I'm soooo impressed Balrog half-broke the game with 20.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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In post 107, numberQ wrote:You guys are killing me. In the interest of not having the game end instantly, I'm going back on what I said. Wishes can and will be prevented if I suspect intentional game breaking.
YESSSSSS!!!!
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In post 131, Benmage wrote:Sanjay you need to actually nameclaim.
I am a time traveler.
Not like Marty McFly. More like Benjamin Button or Merlin from Once and Future King.
I live life backwards.
My first memory is this post. After this, I gather, I will receive a message from numberQ telling me my name is "Sanjay".
Since it is the only name I was ever given, I take it as my own.
Later, in 2009, I sign up to MafiaScum with my rolename: "Sanjay".
Later, in the 1980s, my parents name me "Sanjay" because I told them that was my name. They live life backwards too, you see.
All because of that role PM.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Vote: MrZepher
Is there a reason why you didn't check the PM if you weren't sure?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I'm sorry, Benmage. I didn't think I was being obstinate.
I suppose I can't simultaneously criticize Balrog for being coy about his roleclaim and do it myself. I thought it was clear that I was nameclaiming 'Sanjay' but I guess not.
The flavor, unfortunately, is different than the one I hinted at in my last (first?) post.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I didn't enter the thread all huzzah like because I didn't want to ruin my jokes.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I thought of this one as soon as I got the role PM. That's a sweet joke and I'm wasn't about to ruin it by being brash.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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In post 139, Vifam wrote:In post 136, MrZepher wrote:Woops. I'm Tad. I thought Tad was the black one, but I'm the white one and the white one is Tad.
I got the names confused. Sorry.
Visual memory and all that stuff...
Uh, what? You get a picture of the kid you have in the PM. Are you blind?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zeph
Just as long as this isn't still your case, we're cool.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Also, I got a sort of "testing the waters, do I dare to jump in?" vibe from this post.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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That was in response to my plan, not Bal's if that changes your answer. The plan involving the mafia claiming and us magicking them over to the good guy team.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Either Peregrine is town or he is the hypothetical crafty scum that fakes great ignorance of the setup in order to towntell which I always think about but never run in to.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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It is a LITTLE weird that Peregrine is both trying to break the setup and hasn't read the first post though.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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In post 186, Benmage wrote:In post 181, Sanjay wrote:That was in response to my plan, not Bal's if that changes your answer. The plan involving the mafia claiming and us magicking them over to the good guy team.
Ohhh I see. No, that strengthens the read more so.
The townread? How so?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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You've read the eight pages enough to call them shit. You must have more than that.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I think I'm going toUnvoteZepher for now. I'm not really as excited about it.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I should clarify what I meant by "testing the waters" with regards to that Zepher post. I was floating the idea that MafiaZepher was intrigued by mygeniusbreaking strategy but knew well enough not to just go "Sounds good, Sanjay! The mafia are me, X and Y, our QT is here." That he wanted to see what his buddies thought about it.
I don't know how convinced I am by that interpretation, but that's what I meant.
I definitely definitely definitely DO NOT want to end the day right now. I am greatly looking forward to wishing the heck out of some frivolous wishes, but we can do that after we get this tedious "playing to our win condition" out of the way. And I don't think ending the day right now is pro-town.
For what it's worth, numberQ assured me my role was random in my role PM. Isupposehe might have rigged it, but he didn't and doubt he did.
Benmage, I was wondering about that question I asked you.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Edit by way of post. Second last line should read:
"For what it's worth, numberQ assured me my role was random in my role PM. I suppose he might have rigged it, butI hopehe didn't and doubt he did."Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Vote: Benmage
The difference is that you haven't been playing like someone who saw stuff that was scummy early. Like at all.
What's to review? I'm just asking you what you meant.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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In post 209, Benmage wrote:This is where I'm at:
Town:
Human Destroyer
Balrog
Benmage
Klick
MrZephyr
Sanjay
Vifam
Slight town:
kiwieagle
Neutral:
adorkable
N/A
Seanald
captaineddie
Slight Scum:
-L-
Scum:
PeregrineVDon't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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That's beside the point.
The point is that there's this weird inconsistency between this post, the posts before it, and the posts after it.
Benmage apparently saw stuff that was scummy. Not from me, Balrog, or Vifam, apparently, because he goes on to say that we all look town. Probably not Human Destroyer either, given this. Yet, the very next thing he does is come after me based on my nameclaim and defend Zeph. Why?
He had a ball. Why didn't he run with it?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Those few being Peregrine and L?
Why not go after them? You are the one who claimed to have a few scum reads on page 4. Not me. And you have barely pursued them. You seem to be going after town points with a lot more zeal than you are making your cases.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I feel like it goes without saying that PV's Vifam case is uncompelling.
The question is whether it is scummy (or how scummy it is, probably).
On the one side, it feeds in to townPeregrine's extreme paranoia that the setup is more complicated than it seems. Peregrine's been very consistent about this, and it is the one thing that is causing me hesitation.
On the other hand, if you read that case alone, it really seems like Peregrine wrote the case because he wanted to have a case on Vifam, not because it is a good case. Maybe I'm just saying that because it is a really, really, bad case.
I am sorry I couldn't think of a more diplomatic way to put this, but Peregrine's play has been pretty dumb this game. The question is whether it is too dumb to be believed.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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-L-, am I to take from this post that these were your reads at the time?
What are they now? Any scumreads?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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In post 83, -L- wrote:In post 77, Sanjay wrote:I assumed that the mod would just ignore coordinated wish efforts to break the game. I hoped he would anyway. I signed up to this thing to make wacky wishes.
Sounds like scum. I wonder how many will cop you.
It seems a little bizarre that you seem to have completely forgotten this read. Maybe I'm just being vain, but I don't really like being forgotten.
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I'm kind of bummed that nobody has either jumped on the Benmage thing with me or convinced me I am off-base. That said, I've had my eye on this wagon for a little bit and I quite like it.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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"I have no reads. Also Benmage seems townish. Balrog seems scummy."
WHAT IS THIS SORCERY.
READS COMING FROM NOTHING.
HOW DO YOU GET SOMETHING FROM NOTHING?
I AM FREAKING OUT.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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-L-, you are ignoring my question from post 326.
You definitely saw it. You answered the rest of it.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Did you agree with Klick's reads at the time, or were you just adding your name on to Klick's townlist for no reason?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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At least have the decency to your replacement to answer the pending questions.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I mean, replacing out like this is a pretty jerk move regardless, but at least do your replacement a favor and answer the questions they will have a tough time answering.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Is captaineddie using the rare and fabled "saving your scumbuddy from the lynch by somehow seeming like an even better lynch candidate?"
"Knowing" how -L- is going to flip.
Going from a townread to a 100% scumread in the span of a few posts.
Flipflopping on how readable the thread is.
Holy moly.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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In post 361, Benmage wrote:I fell back a few pages.. skimming this page, L's replacing out due to pressure?
Yeah I'd lynch there.
HOOOOOLY SHIT.
Really surprising coming from you.
Especially since YOU bullied town-L- into replacing under pressure in your last game together.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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I guess busing your scumbuddy is more important than staying consistent with your meta?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Seriously, you guys, check this game out.
This is too good.
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I think Benmage is more likely busing here rather than going for a mislynch, but this is a 100% genuine ungenuine post we have here. Benmage is mafia.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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How does him being a doctor in that game have anything to do with it?
He is intimately acquainted with -L-'s replacing out as town under pressure.
Yet, when he sees -L- replacing out as town here, he's like "yup, there's your scum".Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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So you are saying you don't remember?
What have you been doing? I thought you were suspicious of -L-. You didn't check up on her past games?Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Now we just gotta look through Benmage's games and see if not looking at meta for players that are playing weirdly is normal for him to see how cooked his goose is.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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Can being a doctor give you amnesia?
If not, it's irrelevant.
Have Benmage explain my case to you. He understands it.
Saying he forgot is a defense. That he was a doctor is not.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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-L- I don't want you to replace out. Maybe you aren't playing the best. That's okay.
We're got to solve this problem now so it doesn't happen again.
There's a lot of posts this thread and that can be overwhelming. No biggie. Just deal with it one thing at a time.
Here's your assignment. Pick a player. Maybe someone with not as many posts like kiwieagle or adorkable or seanald. Tell me what you think of them. How likely are they to be scum or town?
When you are done with that, do it again. You get to dictate the pace of this game too.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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The point I am making is this:
Benmage and -L- played together during Mini 1058 - Vanilla Town Mafia. Both were town. Benmage was a doctor, but that's really irrelevant. In that game, -L- replaced out because she didn't feel like she could hack it.
In this game, Benmage used -L-'s replacing out as further indication to lynch -L-. I submit that Benmage would be more likely to do this as mafia, because, as town, he would know that this is a pretty soft indication to lynch -L-, especially being aware of her meta.
Points against this argument is something that I had not really considered that Benmage brought up, this game was a while ago, and Benmage has played a bunch of games since then. It's conceivable he forgot.
Initially, reading the thread, I figured there would be no way he forgot, especially considering he was the one who pressured -L- to replace in the previous game with this post:
In post 261, Benmage wrote:[L] you're digging your own grave if you are town. Because your vote on me looks scummy. Also remember the little chat we had about being able to convince others...saying you have no proof won't get anyone to lynch me. So your vote will sit idly and do nothing. Much like your pretty bad "pressure" vote on horror. Your basically doing nothing with these side tangent votes. I'm pegging you as newb-scum over newb-town.
If you are town. Replace out of this game and play some newbie games. Cause if you are town...holy shit...
This has nothing to do with how Benmage played this game as it compares to this game. It just has to do with what Benmage remembered about -L-. That's why him being a doctor is irrelevant.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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^captaineddie interacting with the person he suspects the most.
Unvote, Vote: captaineddie
eddie, claim what information wish you were thinking about in your very next post or I will use all my power to bring you down.
If you are town and your wish doesn't work out in the open, you're going to have to think of something else. Too bad.Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk.-
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