Mini 1432: Clue Master Detective (Game Over)

[fuzzybutternut]

This is such an interesting flavor.
Alright, fess up ya goons. Who did it?

I think it waaaaaas......
VOTE: Malakittens

You won't sneak past me again.

[fuzzybutternut]

Does anyone else smell dog shit?

No RVS vote. How does that make you feel?

To RVS, or not to RVS. That is the question.

[fuzzybutternut]

Follow to the letter your itinerary. This badge of shame will show until you die. It warns you're a dangerous man.

[fuzzybutternut]

Who do you think is scum, Mala?

[fuzzybutternut]

Starting to think Serra has a vendetta against me. :S
Or just won't stop until I turn up scum.

Either way,
UNVOTE:

[fuzzybutternut]

As long as I'm not lynched D1 again, I'm fine. :3

Hmm.

[fuzzybutternut]

As long as I'm not lynched D1 again, I'm fine. :3

Hmm.

[fuzzybutternut]

Gee willikers batman. A case on page 2!

[fuzzybutternut]

There is

CONCRETE EVIDENCE

that she is scum.

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VOTE COUNT 1.02

With 10 alive it's 6 votes to Lynch.

Voting for:

Shos (0):
Jennifer (0):

malakittens (3):

Baby Spice, serrapaladin, Shos

Baby Spice (0):
pirate mollie (1):
penguin_alien (0):
Belisarius (0):
serrapaladin (1):

Jake From State Farm

fuzzybutternut (0):
Jake From State Farm (1):

Jennifer

Not voting (3):pirate mollie, penguin_alien, Belisarius, fuzzybutternut

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-04-05 08:30:00)

[fuzzybutternut]

Oh god, not Mollie again.

[fuzzybutternut]

FYI- that "Oh god, not Mollie again." was because of post 53. Not because you're in this game.

[fuzzybutternut]

Plus, that makes it look as if I posted it...which is awkward and makes me feel violated. :S

[fuzzybutternut]

Yeah, Jake's pretty much pulling shit out of thin air now. I'm not liking that too much.

VOTE: Jake

[fuzzybutternut]

lack of defense doesn't do much for you either, bud.

[fuzzybutternut]

Defense against what I said. He could have at least said "i'm not pulling anything out of thin air," but chose to just completely avoid it.

[fuzzybutternut]

I wasn't looking for a defense. I shouldn't have to. Defending yourself is part of the game.

[fuzzybutternut]

I never said I was looking for a defense, I just stated that there wasn't one. Nice misrep, kiddo.

[fuzzybutternut]

The fact that I said you were pulling shit out of thin air is grounds for a defense. I was basically calling everything you said shit, in case you missed that.

[fuzzybutternut]

Fuzzy, everything you're saying is shit. Please stop.

k.

[fuzzybutternut]

Jesus. Okay. Will reply when I get to a computer. <3 St Patrick's day. I'm burnt. Happy fuzzy isn't happy.

[fuzzybutternut]

Parade was today, thanks.

[fuzzybutternut]

I believe so, Shos. Not really sure, honestly.

[fuzzybutternut]

Shos, what are you doing? Post 136 was absolutely unneeded fluff. Stop it.

[fuzzybutternut]

I was answering a question. Progressing the game by doing so. He posted fluff. "Oh that's a good question!" Yeah, tell me what that does for town?

[fuzzybutternut]

Beli would have answered the question regardless.
Not so much scum now, than just annoying as fuck.

[fuzzybutternut]

It's a rather weird thing for you to defend, too. What gives?

[fuzzybutternut]

I beg to differ. You're defending his posts by telling me why it was relevant, when it wasn't.

[fuzzybutternut]

Had he said that, I probably wouldn't have said anything about it, but it looked more like "Yeah, I want to seem like I'm doing something too!"

[fuzzybutternut]

what?

[fuzzybutternut]

I've already stated that Jake was annoying, so basically everything he says is fluff to me.

[fuzzybutternut]

Clearly, you don't want mala lynched, Jake.

[fuzzybutternut]

Spoiler: @shos

The only problem I have is how easy it is to wagon fuzzy. He gets himself wagoned and sometimes lynched pretty much every D1 I've seen him play, through similar VI-type play. I'm not sure whether his play here is sufficiently worse than usual to justify a vote.

Jake, why switch votes if you prefer Mala? It's not as though the fuzzy wagon has really taken off yet.

what are you talking about? I've been lynched D1 once. I usually get NKed.

[fuzzybutternut]

Not ignoring him, he's just annoying as hell and hasn't said anything of worth.

[fuzzybutternut]

Can I call you Ham?

[fuzzybutternut]

Can't link to ongoing games, but fuzzy does get himself wagoned quite frequently.

from what I can tell he has 3 completed games. All 3 were town. The first 2 games there is an obvious difference in play than he is playing here. The 3rd game is nothing like his first 2 but it's not really similar to his play this game either. Since we can't use ongoing games per-se, I did notice the game you are referring to and I don't think his play that game is similar to his play this game.

Try again, friend. I have more than that. I have 5 completed games, all of which are town. My play differs depending on what role I have. For instance, if I'm a role cop in one game, my play would differ from if I was a goon.

I can link you to all five of my completed games, if you'd like, but you're going to find differences in my play in most of them.

[fuzzybutternut]

Tbh, I didn't even realize I had kept my vote on Mala for so long. I had forgotten I even had an RVS vote.

[fuzzybutternut]

I get the impression that Serra is trying to blanket the entire game as a mild cum read

gross...

[fuzzybutternut]

So why does your phone auto-correct anything to cum?...

Anywho, you, Mala, Jen and fuzzy have each given some sort of reason to be suspicious. I'm not going to ignore that.

<3

[fuzzybutternut]

Here's the problem I see with Room claiming.

How can we be sure that people are where they say they are?

[fuzzybutternut]

I have not.

[fuzzybutternut]

meanwhile, voat fuzzy if you havent

there will be no voating of said Fuzzy today, because, quite frankly, I don't know what that is, and it doesn't sound pleasant.

[fuzzybutternut]

What have you done again, Shos?

[fuzzybutternut]

I don't see as to how that would help us anyway. I mean, anyone can lie and say they're in a room, when they aren't.

[fuzzybutternut]

Mala, by the same argument town players can seek out empty areas for items. I don't think it gives scum an advantage.,

fuzzy, only scum would have an incentive lie about that though, and if we catch someone in a lie, we'll know that.

I assume there are items that give information about other players, or that affect movement, so we have a decent chance in catching liars.

Claiming leaves scum the difficult decision between being honest about their location and potentially being brought into association with NK's, or lying about it and risking being called out on that.

There's no good reason not to claim.

fuzzy is making me more and more willing to lynch him...

Yes, I know that, but we'd still lose a townie in the process, and chances are that both scum aren't going to lie about where they are. And how would we catch them in a lie anyway? More than one person can be in the same room.

[fuzzybutternut]

There's one reason not to Serra. We seem to have no way to confirm that people are telling the truth. At this stage we don't even know that we will know what room people die in.

Sharing info that some of us have is good. Sharing something that scum might not have is bad.

THANK YOU

[fuzzybutternut]

That plan really, REALLY, won't work, shos.

[fuzzybutternut]

Here's the problem with revealing rooms: scum can kill in their room or in adjacent rooms. This means that if one reveals location as Fountain or Gazebo, the only place to go the next night is the Courtyard, and even the next night said person is guaranteed to be killable from the Courtyard barring object interference. Those are the most egregious examples, but depending on where scum are, the adjacent thing pretty much leaves a lot of open targets with multiple scum alive. I'll reveal rooms for the night before last but not last night.

What about claiming objects? Most anyone aside from scum is going to use them when possible for their purpose, and it keeps scum from fake-claiming actions with some until then unused object.

I dislike that Jake hasn't addressed the case he made on Malakittens, but Baby Spice's ISO is scummier. Between her entire time on the Malakittens wagon and her redirect to finding out people's rooms and whether they know who else is there with them, everything seems to come from a scum stance.

VOTE: Baby Spice

Now THAT is a good idea, with no possible scum motivation behind it.

[fuzzybutternut]

Alright, now what if we have an item that we used, but the use failed?

[fuzzybutternut]

Shos, please tell me exactly what i should be commenting on, because i'm not seeing it.

I was asking, because my item failed last night.

[fuzzybutternut]

Probably could have helped, actually.

[fuzzybutternut]

well, your original case on Mala was bullshit. 49 posts into the game and you have "concrete evidence" that she is scum.

That huge ass wall you made was nothing but distraction from town's scumhunting. (post 217 btw)

That case against me is just laughable, as it's basically nothing but LOLYOUNEEDTOPOSTMORE

[fuzzybutternut]

Yeah, that quoting of your "evidence" was called sarcasm. Which, if you ask me, holds plenty of reads within itself.

[fuzzybutternut]

Tis true. Still can't believe we lost that one. *sigh*

I'm watching you, Mala. >.>

[fuzzybutternut]

See, Shos. Had you actually read my meta, you'd know that I don't take orders very well. I will post my reads when I see fit. Right now is not then. I'm not making any excuses. I'm paying attention, which is ridiculously difficult to do when I have some asshat down my throat about what i'm doing wrong.

[fuzzybutternut]

Jake? No. I thought I mentioned that. :S

He's just annoying as hell.

Shos is pretty town too.

Just realized I was still voting Jake. Hmm. I need to find a better place for that.

[fuzzybutternut]

Why are you still voting him if he's not your top scum read?

I don't like my vote to just sit around unused. You should know that, Mala. I believe I got hounded in my first game for NOT having my vote on someone.
Shos, give me until Monday. I have prom coming up Saturday and testing shit tomorrow, which, even though I'm not the one testing, it still stresses me out.

[fuzzybutternut]

I may or may not have something posted before then. I'm honestly not sure.

[fuzzybutternut]

Dining room.

List of who's claimed rooms: shos, pirate mollie, Malakittens, penguin_alien

fuzzybutternut, go!

Was in the drawing room, tried to use an item, it failed, i'm now in the courtyard.

[fuzzybutternut]

Serra, Go!

[fuzzybutternut]

i'm generally fine with it too. I don't see as to where that could make anything worse for us.

[fuzzybutternut]

Mines a little hinky, but I did pm the mod when I noticed, and he didn't comment on it. (When the D1 pm showed up)

I started in the trophy room, but my pm said I found no items in a different room, (The carriage house)

Player	D0 Location	D1 Location	D2 Location
shos	Conservatory
mollie	Fountain
Mala	Library
Jen
Baby	Trophy Room
Beli
Jake	Gazebo
fuzzy	Drawing Room	Courtyard
Penguin	Dining Room
serra	Kitchen	Trophy Room

Jen then Beli by default.

[fuzzybutternut]

Done. ^.^

[fuzzybutternut]

Player	D0 Location	D1 Location	D2 Location
shos	Conservatory	Drawing Room
mollie	Fountain	kitchen
Mala	Library
Jen	Carriage Room	Trophy Room
Baby	Trophy Room
Beli	Studio	Conservatory
Jake	Gazebo	Courtyard
fuzzy	Drawing Room	Courtyard	Carriage Room
Penguin	Dining Room	Kitchen
serra	Kitchen	Trophy Room

[fuzzybutternut]

Player	D0 Location	D1 Location	D2 Location
shos	Conservatory	Drawing Room
mollie	Fountain	kitchen
Mala	Library
Jen	Carriage Room	Trophy Room
Baby	Trophy Room
Beli	Studio	Conservatory
Jake	Gazebo	Courtyard	Drawing Room
fuzzy	Drawing Room	Courtyard	Carriage Room
Penguin	Dining Room	Kitchen
serra	Kitchen	Trophy Room

[fuzzybutternut]

Okay, Mollie, Wth?

[fuzzybutternut]

Why not, Serra?

[fuzzybutternut]

Dunno, I thought we were afraid of scum using that to target kills?

If we claim rooms, and the scum makes a kill, then it's easier to find scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

Dunno, I thought we were afraid of scum using that to target kills?

If we claim rooms, and the scum makes a kill, then it's easier to find scum.

If the bodies are found in the rooms where they died, as Baby Spice's lynch indicates, we'll know that anyways. If we learn after the first kill that it doesn't work that way, we can change our strategy then.

Precisely.

I'm just worried that someone is lying *cough* Mollie *cough*

[fuzzybutternut]

Did you use an item N1?

[fuzzybutternut]

and said item magically transported you ALL the way across the board?

[fuzzybutternut]

Me either.

[fuzzybutternut]

Shos, I apologize. Please tell me what I was supposed to explain to you again.

[fuzzybutternut]

vote: fuzzy

It's him or beli, my gut screams fuzzy scum

you really shouldn't listen to your gut so much.

[fuzzybutternut]

but you had two different reasons for voting us?

[fuzzybutternut]

Yes, but you didn't find me scummy for the thing that you found shos scummy for. We did the exact same thing.

[fuzzybutternut]

And now you're just avoiding everything i'm saying.

[fuzzybutternut]

Please, enlighten me. How am I useless again?

[fuzzybutternut]

Of course not. You've had your mind set that I'm scum since day one. You're not going to.

[fuzzybutternut]

If that's a serious post, then you're definitely scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm working on it Shos. I've never used Notepad more.

[fuzzybutternut]

Guys, chill the fuck out. I'm busy.

[fuzzybutternut]

Shos
Mollie
Jake

In no order.

[fuzzybutternut]

still not buying the mollie thing. Don't know if it's pure accident or a scum slip. Leaning towards scum slip.

[fuzzybutternut]

Many factors could be involved there. They are called "slips" for a reason.

I'm not saying it's surefire.
For one, we have no idea which room she lied about.

Maybe she wasn't thinking when she posted it.
Maybe she realized a flaw in her plans and switched them at last minute.
Like I said, many factors there.

[fuzzybutternut]

Again, i'm not saying it's surefire. I'm also not saying she's definitely scum because of it. It's a mere FoS.

[fuzzybutternut]

I really don't see it as a scum slip. I really, really don't.

I'm not really seeing Fuzzy the same way as I saw him in the Newbie game. You do seem a bit different and I'm not sure if it's because you have more experience under your belt or if it's really because you're scum. There you at least

were trying

and here you

aren't

.

You say it's a mere FoS, but you have her listed in the top 3 of your scum picks. Added bonus of you haven't explained why Shos, Mollie or Jake are scum.

Serra: I had it custom made. My avatar is also by the same person and I have a few more where that came from. I'm going to have her do a few minor edits to it though. I'm going to have the tail move and the named added. Other than that - she's amazing at creating them.

i'll give you a hint. I'm not scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

mmmmm. Votes.

[fuzzybutternut]

Sure sure. Ofc. you can.

[fuzzybutternut]

Congrats. Glad you can count, Serra.

[fuzzybutternut]

Last time I was at l-1 and was town, I freaked out because no one listened to me.

[fuzzybutternut]

Have I said anything worthy of being listened to?

[fuzzybutternut]

*sigh* I suppose I should.
Mala, my scum game is on my wiki, but I'm not sure if it's the one she's thinking of.

[fuzzybutternut]

Sorry. Was supposed to be 'he.' Give me a bit to get a decent amount of info up. I'm playing minecraft and am set on getting what I need here.

P-edit: My apologies then. I need to do that. What game are you thinking of, Serra?

[fuzzybutternut]

Looking forward to that info.

Also, <3 a fellow minecraft player.

Does everyone here play minecraft? xD

[fuzzybutternut]

Okay, killed the wither. I'm happy now. :3

Let's get some content going here.

[fuzzybutternut]

Okay, the logical side of my brain is going with Penguin. As one of the people on Baby's lynch, you'd think he would have more to say, but he's had 7 posts since her lynch. I'd like to hear more from her.

Meanwhile:
VOTE: Penguin_Alien

[fuzzybutternut]

I trashed it. All my points were moot. I realized that after I wrote and read it. Tell me exactly what you want to know, and i will tell you.

[fuzzybutternut]

Hammer if you want, Shos.

[fuzzybutternut]

I feel as if my death will solve more problems, tbh.

[fuzzybutternut]

Dear God shos, you're going to hammer no matter what I say.

[fuzzybutternut]

Serra, ISO penguin. Notice how active he was before the flip? He stopped posting content sometime after the flip. Seems like scum caught on a townies wagon.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm not saying that the activity drop is a scum tell. ISO her. She was on the town wagon, soon as the flip comes she says one thing, and then votes me for no reason. looks too much like scum trying to divert town away from their lynch.

[fuzzybutternut]

^This.

What the hell am I supposed to claim? I told you what room I was in, and I told you that I had an item. I tried to use it and failed. there's my claim.

[fuzzybutternut]

1.) I'm not scum.
2.) I'm doing the best I can with what I have.
3.) What exactly are YOU doing to help find scum, other than ranting about claiming you've already found one?

[fuzzybutternut]

Perhaps, in that time, I can gather some real reads for myself, and actually figure out who scum is.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm not delaying anything. I don't have reads. I'm trying to gain them. I can't do that when I'm being hounded.

[fuzzybutternut]

scraping the post was me realizing there was nothing in the post worth posting. Get over yourself.

[fuzzybutternut]

Serra, I'm not going to be backtracking a whole lot, but I will pay more attention to this game, now that a few of my others are over.
Penguin: any regards to my suspicion on you?

[fuzzybutternut]

Tbh, I don't think Beli is scum. He's not playing like he would if he was scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

Tbh, I don't think Beli is scum. He's not playing like he would if he was scum.

How would you expect him to act if he was scum?

IIRC- Beli's preferred alignment is scum. I'd expect him to be more enthused than he is.

[fuzzybutternut]

^LOL

[fuzzybutternut]

Hey Jake, I'm not scum. I've more or less lost interest in this game. Beli is town, imo. This isn't his typical scum game. Vote me if you wish, I honestly don't care.

[fuzzybutternut]

Damn. Could've gotten away with it too.

[fuzzybutternut]

^Jumping to conclusions.

[fuzzybutternut]

Was talking about trying not to get lynched, Jen. Reverse psychology failed me.

[fuzzybutternut]

Go after Jake. I'm not liking his posts any more than I ever have.
Be weary of Mala.
If you're not scum, it's likely that one of these two are.

[fuzzybutternut]

Yeah yeah, what of it. I told you, I lost interest in this game.

[fuzzybutternut]

Besides the fact that I was gaining little to no reads.

[fuzzybutternut]

I helped more than you think, Mollie.

[fuzzybutternut]

I don't replace out of games. I'm not trolling either. I'm telling you the truth. I couldn't gain reads.

[fuzzybutternut]

If I replace out, I'm not helping anything. At least my getting lynched will narrow the pool down to who could possibly be scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

But one who replaces in often times slows the game down to almost nothing, and can easily be lynch bait.

[fuzzybutternut]

*sigh* Jake, the job is to find scum. If you fail to see how my being lynched can help that, then you must be scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

Was a fun game guys.
Thanks Guille!