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PS. ^this is a scum RVS vote if I ever saw one. scum team thus far is d3x and PB. "just saying hi"....LOL
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Yup, I 100% agree with this post and the reason. It's policy, but I'm not going to deal more of d3x posts that I can't read.In post 52, Jake from State Farm wrote:Well I have a huge issue because I can't understand a single thing d3 is saying unless I really concentrate. The last time a person posted annoyingly I replaced out, but I'm not replacing out here so he needs to ask the mod to reduce his restriction some or I'm going to have vote him and ignore his posts (not like I could decipher them anyway)
vote: d3x
When making butter there is a little margarine for error
VOTE: d3x
Saddest thing about it is d3x is 99.9% town because he wouldn't pull this shit as scum and I don't see a MOD making scum have the single most annoying restriction in a game and one that will likely get him lynched because nobody wants to deal with it. If it's NOT a post restriction, then he's 100% town because I know him and I know what he is willing and not willing to do as scum. This is NOT something he would willingly do as scum.
No sir, ^that is a peppery poor excuse for a vote.In post 53, Amrun wrote:Even though that pun was amazing, that's a poor excuse for a vote.
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Look, here's my issue with d3x:
If it's a post restriction, it's over the chicken-fucking-brothy top and the MOD needs to reduce it to at least make it readable. There are currently 2 other players who have post restrictions (or are at least posting like it) and both of them are very much readable. At this time, it's beyond readable and I won't deal with it all game. So MOD either lightens it up to make it readable or he needs to die and die early.
If it's not a post restriction and he's doing it intentionally, it needs to stop or he needs to die.
There is no "Take some effort and attempt to understand the posts." bullshit. The fact you're trying to take this stance to make my opinion of his posts somehow scummy is you looking for town points (re: TT)
If you feel you understand d3x's posts, feel free to agree to translate every single one of his posts and I will drop my vote. That or the MOD can reduce the restriction and I will drop my vote. Till then, policy lynch is a go for me.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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"Lol, OK. Is there anything I said against you. Is there any question I posed. Does anything about OMGUS and say 'd3x knows better'.In post 89, d3x wrote:Lul... Ook. Unsver unytheeng I seeed egeeenst yuu. Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp! Unsver uny qooesshun I pused. Bork bork bork! Du unytheeng boot OoMGOoS und sey "d3x knoos better".
Better yet, ixpleeen vhy yuoo vuoold vunt tu Lynch yuoor greetest ToonReed, unless yuoo're-a sooggesteeng thet yuoo hefe-a sumeune-a et heegher thun 99.9% Toon. Bork bork bork!
Better yet, explain why you would want to lynch your greatest townread, unless you're suggesting that you have a something higher than 99.9% town."
^that took me 5 minutes and it STILL doesn't fucking make sense. I make oats into oatmeal faster.
When I have an hour or so, I'll ISO you to see if you asked me a question.
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I don't think we have 3 post-resticted townies. I just don't. It may be my butter-addled brain, but I don't see it. If 3 post-restricted townies is unlikely, then either d3x or Jake are scum. If for some reason we have 3 post-restricted townies, then I hate quadz.
Also, I'm macho, so don't try to protect me.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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UNVOTE: d3x
VOTE: jake
If one of the 2 of them are scum, then it's Jake.
d3x's reasons for voting me are his town game. I have decided that when adding a spoon full of sugar, his reasons for voting me are from his town game. If he wanted me dead, he'd call me town and NK me.
Amrun, do you think it likely town has 3 post restricted roles or do you think it's more likely scum has one of the 3?If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Pretty sure if you actually have read my posts, you'd see my claim.
Post restricted, Macho (due to all the Popeye spinach I eat probably) Town
If it's a name you are looking for, I'm Tyler Capps.
I do have a "3rd ability" which is simply just a vote, though I'm betting other townies have it listed similarly as something unique to their character. My vote is called 2 AM Chili.
My macho and post-restriction "abilities" also have unique names, but I don't think they matter as far as claiming goes.
For the record, my wagon is bad and you should feel bad (if you're town). Especially you d3x.
If I'm lynched and d3x is on my wagon, lynch his scum face tomorrow.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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What's that last part?
"His flips this game have made no real sense and he's not trying to account for them"?
You don't think that 3 post-restricted town roles (with a side of potatoes) is a bit odd? I do. As I've said (ie, accounted for) multiple times. I think one of you or Jake is scum. You are paranoid after our last game, I get that, but you are keeping your vote on me at L-1 on page 8 with plenty of time till deadline. Paranoid d3x doesn't equal a reckless d3x. Town d3x doesn't like policy lynches or quick lynches and isn't a part of them. Town d3x unvotes when someone is at L-1 on page 8 with 11 days left before deadline.
VOTE: d3x
p.edit: p151 I though you may be looking for reactions and what not. Grats, you fooled me. Now, you are staying on a wagon when town d3x would not. Do you deny this? Why are you still voting me? If you were town and actually thought I was scum and wanted my lynch at the end of today, town-you would unvote this far from deadline and with so few people active and demand more discussion. Town you would wonder why I'm at L-1 with nobody backing off. Yet here you are, leaving your vote on someone so far from deadline.
My vote isn't moving as d3x is scum. Lynch me if ya'll want, I'll flip town. If you lynch d3x tomorrow, then you will lynch scum. I'll go for a 1 for 1 trade. Town d3x doesn't let discussion stop....even if he's sure of a person flipping scum. Scum d3x however, is all about it.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Jake: Read my thoughts on d3x in post 199 that have nothing to do with Salt covered post restriction roles. d3x's continuation of voting me at L-1 so far from deadline is directly related to his scum game.
See how around Day 3 and Day 4 how he and his scum buddies quicklynch and reduce discussion. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=28174
Now see how d3x want's to extend discussion when town. p992 specifically shows how he wants to take advantage of a deadline extension to get a better read on someone lacking in posts. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
This, more so than post-restriction roles, is why more people need to vote d3x. If not today, make sure to lynch him tomorrow after I flip.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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d3x: Would you say either myself or you are scum? What happens when I flip town? Should you be lynched then? Would town be justified in your lynch after my town-flip? If you are actually town, what are your reads then? Hell, what are your reads on everyone else in the game up to now since you apparently have enough information out of D1 to push my tomato pastey quick-lynch.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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LOL, that is not at all what that means...you could easily be scum and know this is my town game. I'm saying no matter your alignment, you (at this point in time) know this is my town game and have often commented on how I look scummy on D1 all the time. Hell, that's even the reason for my quote tag. So, lynch me today, and die tomorrow.In post 206, d3x wrote:Do you deny that your whole case against me up until this point has been "d3x should know I'm Town" {which by the way, says that you knowing that I'm Town}?
To the town, I can't stress this enough, once I flip town, lynch scum d3x the next day.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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And if kthx flips town Amrun?
p244 oozes scum. Not sure if Amrun and d3x are both scum with p244 though. Maybe, lynch Amrun for this post before d3x tomorrow.
Reads change. This isn't d3x's town game from my perspective. Voting him for a policy lynch may not have been my best play ever, but his handicap annoys the shit out of me so, w/e.
As for my lynch, go for it, Macho restricted townie is worse than playing VT imo. I'm not clever enough to turn random Paprika spices into something funny so I'm not even enjoying the restriction. Just make sure you all are paying attention to this wagon. There are scum all over it.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Yeah, welcome to my world...In post 249, Amrun wrote:You're right, it is worse than VT. VT is a good role, but the thing you're claiming is super negative utility and not even in a way that makes sense.
I wonder, could I be provable if town has a protection role and they target me tonight? They should get a PM saying I'm not targetable. It would prove I'm macho...but I don't think it'd prove I'm town as there are macho scum roles. It would also take away from possibly protecting scum's target...so...never mind.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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THIS right here is why I keep saying d3x should know I'm town. I do this every time I'm town. Either he thinks I'm going against my meta on purpose to throw him or he's pushing my lynch because he's scum. Since he hasn't said I'm purposely going against my meta to fool him in any of his reasoning, the second must be true, hence my flip of my read on him.In post 273, trebuchet tabby wrote:Kthx is flipping around like a waffley pancake in regards to Dex..
And yes, I voted him when I thought he was town due only to his ridiculous post restriction annoying the shit out of me and making me take 10 times longer to read 1 of his posts versus any other post. Now however, it's because of his play being not that of what I expect town-d3x to play.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Yeah, I'm so bad a player that I claim macho as scum. Please d3x, tell me you still think I'm scum AND a complete moron with a macho-restricted claim with a continuation of voting me in your next post.
Lynch me today guys, go ahead. I already lost my vote and it will prove my alignment and then y'all can finally listen to me about d3x.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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I think y'all should lynch me today. As much as I think d3x should know I'm town, I think he's started his town tunneling. It is more than disturbing that it's on me when I feel he should know better, but the fact that he is doing it makes me lean back on town after taking a step back and realizing if it was on anyone else, it would be screaming town to me.
So, this brings my scum pile to porochaz, Amrun and I like the case/votes on newearth.
So yeah, lynch me today and move on to the 3 above and ignore my talk about d3x. Though he should know better and I will chastise him appropriately after I'm dead, he looks to be doing his town tunneling and it won't quit till I'm dead. Y'all will be much better off with him moving on (see my death) than to have him barking up the wrong tree (my lynch) for multiple days.
Add in the fact that my "pr" is worse than being a VT, and it's best if you lynch me today. I don't need to be anywhere near end game and might as well get me out the way early.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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This isn't from a fatalistic POV. Hell, I only have 3 votes on me. The reason this is a good strategic move for town is because:In post 456, trebuchet tabby wrote:
I very much understand the sense of fatalism where posts like this one come from. It's not a good place to act from in mafia.In post 453, Kthxbye wrote:I think y'all should lynch me today. As much as I think d3x should know I'm town, I think he's started his town tunneling. It is more than disturbing that it's on me when I feel he should know better, but the fact that he is doing it makes me lean back on town after taking a step back and realizing if it was on anyone else, it would be screaming town to me.
So, this brings my scum pile to porochaz, Amrun and I like the case/votes on newearth.
So yeah, lynch me today and move on to the 3 above and ignore my talk about d3x. Though he should know better and I will chastise him appropriately after I'm dead, he looks to be doing his town tunneling and it won't quit till I'm dead. Y'all will be much better off with him moving on (see my death) than to have him barking up the wrong tree (my lynch) for multiple days.
Add in the fact that my "pr" is worse than being a VT, and it's best if you lynch me today. I don't need to be anywhere near end game and might as well get me out the way early.
-d3x probably won't drop the tunnel until I'm dead
------d3x is an overall good scum hunter and though wrong this time, if I'm dead, he can move on more readily. That's not to say he won't look for scum while tunneling, but he'll spend more time there.
-I don't need to be anywhere even close to a LYLO situation...period.
-My "PR" is worse than playing VT and I will likely forget 3 times again in the future and lose my vote for the day....again. This could be MAJORLY bad for town near end game and turn a LYLO into an insta-loss.
-With the suspicion surrounding me, even though I'm a sure kill for scum at night, they won't do it.
------If I were scum, I'd keep this slot alive as long as possible to get to a LYLO situation with this slot in it.
I don't see any benefit of keeping me alive today unless there is a major scum-slip from scum between now and my lynch. Unless you can say for certain that these "defeatist" posts are 100% from town kthx, then I need to die sooner than later, and I'd rather sooner tbh.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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I seriously can't wait to be lynched so I can yell at you for being so blindly wrong in your tunneling...In post 512, d3x wrote:
Nu, in thet I steell theenk zeere's un ebufe-a rundum chunce-a thet yuoo're-a Scoom und p461 is predeeceted upun yuoo beeeng Toon. Bork bork bork!In post 509, Kthxbye wrote:So basically you completely agree with my p461 d3x?
As far as tne, sure, he can die too. I'm having a difficult time keeping up with this game and I hate D1. It's taking all my willpower to see you as town because of your tunneling of me when I feel you should know better. I've can only recall you tunneling this hard as town. The only other time you tunneled this hard was when we were scum on our hydra where we tunneled Seanold while everyone was looking elsewhere and it was far beyond D1. We are in D1 and I was almost lynched. I now, using logical thinking vice emotional response, think that you wouldn't be pushing and tunneling so hard on me if you scum and KNEW knew I was town. The fact that I think you should know I'm town is just coming from my POV knowing I'm town. The difference here is I'm the object of that tunneling so it makes it hard for me not to see you as scum ESPECIALLY due to our knowing each other. If you were tunneling elsewhere, I'd probably be sheeping you at this point.
This brings me to another thing. I've already had to claim. I've only recently seemed to look more townie to most everyone who moved off my wagon. Why is it we are lynching Elyse exactly? To everyone on Elyse's wagon, if you were in a LYLO situation with me, are you saying that right now, today, this very second, that you would lynch the other person over me because you believe so strongly that I'm town? I want an answer to this from everyone on Elyse's wagon. If the answer isn't a resounding yes, I think you know what I expect you to do in the post you answer the question in.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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I can't help but feel Poro's laziness for this game actually feels more town than scum. Change the unofficial to:
In post 511, Kthxbye wrote:If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Four days to deadline. The closest thing to a lynch is only at L-3 (unless Mod counts Rank's..w/e that was).
Nobody voting Elise has bothered to answer my question in p516. Jake votes Amrun (which I agree with), yet doesn't answer it and he was on Elyse's wagon.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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I though "fuck: Elyse" was you being naughty with a vote. (see p522). That said, given that Elyse was town and on the road to a mis-lynch, this pretty much makes you conf town imo.
So, I'd say 1 maybe 2 votes on Elyse are scum and if I'm not to be the lynch today, we look there first.
Elyse (4) - Jake from State Farm, The Slovak Prince, PeaceBringer, trebuchet tabby
The lynching of Rank isn't happening. He's town. Scum must decide if he's x-shot or not and he will probably be killed tonight just to be safe for them.In post 515, Elyse wrote:After I flip town lynch TNE because I'm the counterwagon to him.
Also lynch Rank cause he's an asshole.
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As far as lynching TNE maybe. ISO him. He's done piss all for the whole day. Then again, more than a few fall into this category.
He's fence-sitty with the idea of 3 post-restriction role thing (the idea I brought up about the probability of 1 of the 3 of us being scum).
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I still don't like Amrun, but seeing as there are 4 whole votes on the would-be mis-lynch wagon and at least most likely 1 maybe 2 scum votes there, that leaves us with a 25-50% chance of hitting scum if we concentrate there.
So, if I had a vote, it would switch to PB. A scum flip would make TNE town imo. Could also be persuaded to vote TSP due to being second on the wagon. Could also go with Jake seeing as I'm still not convinced town has 3 post restricted roles.
p.edit: Amrun's p536 reads town to me...dunno why. Just seems genuine not forced. So yeah, lynch PB or TSP.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Just over 4 days left and this is where we are at.
thenewearth (1) - PeaceBringer
Amrun (1) - Jake from State Farm
Not Voting (12): Porochaz, Kyubey, Rank, thenewearth, Pyrotechnics, d3x, Amrun, The Slovak Prince, trebuchet tabby, Kthxbye
Get in here and post/vote people. I would suggest limiting votes and wagons to 1 of the following for today. Does anyone disagree with the logic and/or odds of 1 scum on the Elyse wagon.
Jake from State Farm, The Slovak Prince, PeaceBringer, KthxbyeIf you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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It's close to deadline and it's information that is both handy and informative to make good decisions. If you don't like it, just pretend it's for my easy reference.In post 543, Amrun wrote:Why do you keep posting vote counts? Serious question.
Also, stop naming numbers of scum on wagons. It's 100% arbitrary. All or none of the scum could be on the wagon. Was someone on the wagon scummy? If so, why?
I disagree whole-heartily about it being arbitrary. VCA is a thing and it is a good thing as it deals with probabilities and logic. Saying its 100% arbitrary is just ridiculous. Look at the 2 larger wagons today. One on me to the point of claiming and one being slowly pushed till deadline. Both are on town for their 'scummy actions'. Obviously these 'scummy actions' didn't mean Elyse was scum and as I'm not scum, neither were any of the 'scummy actions' leading to lynching scum with my wagon. That does remind me though....If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Those who had voted for my mis-lynch - d3x,, Amrun,RankJake from State Farm,Elyse,Porochaz,PeaceBringer
Those who had voted for Elyse's mis-lynch -Jake from State Farm, The Slovak Prince,PeaceBringer, trebuchet tabby,Porochaz, ()Rank
4 players bolded (voted both town wagons), 1 of them is 99% likely town. That leaves Jake, Poro, and PB. Lynch PB imo.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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In as few messed up words as possible, why is this the case?In post 653, d3x wrote:Iff it's betveee Emroon und PB, it's nut ifee a qooesshun.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Totally unofficial VC:
PeaceBringer (4) - thenewearth, Porochaz, Amrun, d3x
thenewearth (3ish) - Pyrotechnics, Jake from State Farm, (PeaceBringer)
Amrun (1) - The Slovak Prince
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d3x (0) -
Kyubey (0) -
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Rank (0) -
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trebuchet tabby
Pyrotechnics
Not Voting (4): Kyubey, Rank, trebuchet tabby, KthxbyeIf you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Woot, eat a noodley peppy scum!
Now the question is: Do we try and find scum in the not voting section or the voting for TNE section?
I will say that with the way that the lynch turned around from PB (quickly and with ease), it jumps PB to the top of my town list and most if not all those voting for TNE at the end of the day very townie as well. I'd say we look for scum in the pile of:
Poro, Kyubey, or trebuchet tabby
There is also the idea that we need to get me out of the game before too long as well.
Also, unless d3x put this in as a super play to confuse me thoroughly,
makes me sold that he's town.In post 753, d3x wrote:Em I zee oonly oone-a thet's unnerfed by hoo fest und iesy thet Lynch joost vent doon? Bork bork bork! I knoo zee deedleene-a ves fest eppruecheeng, boot steell...
p.edit: WTF are those lists? We have 5 people not on the super quick and easy lynch of scum. With how neck and neck PB and TNE were until less than 24 hours to deadline, I don't see scum going for a final push onto a partner. I'm not comfy with including anyone on the TNE lynch as possible lynches today. It makes no sense to me.
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^this is so not town thinking.In post 762, Kyubey wrote:d3x; kthnxbye, pyrotechnics, amrun is my starting point. At least one there.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Shit...day just started and strike one. I'm going to fail cooking school because I can't even remember how to cook rice. FMLIn post 771, Kthxbye wrote:
^this is so not town thinking.In post 762, Kyubey wrote:d3x; kthnxbye, pyrotechnics, amrun is my starting point. At least one there.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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I think Rank should (if able) shoot Tabby (for Jake) and we can move on to lynch Kyubey. Jake seems pretty confident in his read there and I feel pretty confident in Jake being town atm. I feel confident in my Kyubey read atm as well.
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Something about how Jake cooks his pancakes and eggs with a side of sausage makes me think I should: Also, I'd probably protect Jake tonight protective role guy. (I assume you protected Rank last night whoever you are).
VOTE: tabby
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This probably makes a little more sense with whole milk.In post 795, Kthxbye wrote:Something about how Jake cooks his pancakes and eggs with a side of sausage makes me think I should:
VOTE: tabby
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Pyro: Why haven't you placed your broccoli and cheese covered vote on Kyubey? I like your thoughts on Kyubey, just wondering why they aren't followed up with a chocolatey vote. Also, what do you think about Jake's confidence with his read/vote on tabby?
Tabby/Kyubey team? Could it be so easy? Either way, I think 1 of those 2 needs to hang today.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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Dang...was hoping for a 100% no doubt. Thought you were soft claiming a result.
I would give Kyubey a pretty good chance (75% maybe?). Ky is my top scum read at this point, but I don't know. The percentage of surety is slightly lower now with Pyro mirroring my thoughts about K but not throwing down a vote. That and p801. Not sure what to make of that special sauce. All in all, Kyubey strikes me as slightly more scummy than Tabby...though I COULD easily see both of them as scum.
This also bothers me more than a little cheese sauce mixed with cauliflower. I want to hear TSP's thoughts before we decide on any lynch. Kyubey's response to this is the reason my vote is still on tabby atm.
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Your response to the WTF moment carrot boy (TSP) made was exactly what came to my mind when I read his vote with nothing else. I'm town and so since you posted a similar thought to known town, it lessened my surety of you being scum just enough to continue voting Tabby.In post 818, Kyubey wrote:
What? I don't see how my response to marangal's vote makes your vote on tabby?In post 817, Kthxbye wrote:Kyubey's response to this is the reason my vote is still on tabby atm.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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So you think we were lynching scum no matter what yesterday? And you think that scum let their 2 shot RB PR get lynched over PB? What scum PR do you speculate him to be that he would be saved over their pistachio loving RB? Lastly, where is your vote?In post 822, Kyubey wrote:so I'm guessing PB is scumIf you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.