So, I was really super stoked that I got a special one-shot commuter role, then I saw that it was the vanilla role and was bummed, then came the weak discussion and I feel semi-special again. kagami is almost definitely town based solely on the confidence she seemed to have with the whole weak discussion. I don't get Pasch's argument at all. The Vanilla role has the one-shot commuter thingy, so there's no way she was trying to get people to out having power roles by wondering if there was one more weak person. All the weak thing seems to do is not have that commuter thing and there's really nothing stating that a weak person couldn't have another role, which is backed up by Bert claiming Weak Human Miller. So, yeah that argument is super wtf land and I'm not sure I even buy that he buys it. I mean I get role shit confused all the time, so I would sympathize but he looks like he's pushing an argument just to push an argument. My only experience with Pasch is mafiastuck though where he was super obvious scum. If I feel like it later, I'll look back at that game but it was a year ago and I think he was new then, so it might be meh. Nothing he's said has looked town though.
I think that Plum looks town too and mostly that comes from what looks like spontaneous posting. I followed the On the Boat game once empire replaced in and Plum's posting there was more calculated and seemed planned there, which is different from here. Also, I'm just not sure this comes from Plum!scum:
I'm pretty sure I remember empire telling me that Plum isn't very confident in her scum game. (I don't have my chat logs with him anymore, so don't quote me on this). But, she's comfortable with her town game, so I think that she'd be less likely to offer to take a leadership position as scum.plum wrote:I'd be happy to take up the position.In post 157, BROseidon wrote:Also Tammy needs to get her ass in here and obvtown up so she can lead. Towns without structure suck :/
I'm always town, duh.
Bert is probs town, but I feel like I will be able to read him correctly soon enough. And I do agree with whoever said that Bert probably wouldn't fake claim miller as scum, because he just isn't comfortable enough with his scum game to do that. HOWEVER, I did see Salamance fakeclaim miller on day one of a game and ride it to endgame even though he relished the fact that he was a Vi and was uncomfortable playing scum. Not to compare the two of them, but I've seen it done though so. Bert can be quite obvious town when he wants to though, so I'm just hoping he'll bring that thang.
I'm not getting the Falcon hate though. Myko, I really don't see what you see in Post 92. That's exactly the type of analysis I'd expect to see from Falcon!town, so I'm not sure why you think it's out of place or that it's scum motivated. If I squint, I might be able to see where Dan is coming from. He's either looking for a vote or a follow up to the original question? But I don't see why that's scum. I mean he literally posted one minute after Bert's claim to suggest to Brian that they lynch the miller claim. Let's say Falcon is scum and Brian is town, that would mean in that one minute, Falcon!scum went well I know that Brian is town and he was lynched as a miller before, let's see if I can make a gambit in hopes of what? making Brian look town? It seems far more likely to me that he suspected Brian in the first place, saw a way to test him, and did.
I had an early scum read on Pie, but I'm starting to lean away from that based on his whoa posts against Broseidon as they kinda remind me about how up in arms I can get when I think that scum is pushing on me. Though Pie, you do realize that BS is Brian Skies right? I think you're misunderstanding a good part of that. Though what I absolutely hate hate hate about Pie's reactions to Bro is the default to throw out the buzzwords. He's not discrediting you by telling you that you suck at reading him. He's telling you your read is wrong; now you can argue that he's lying about that, but that's not a discredit. I tell people they suck at reading me all the time when they consistently read me wrong and being someone who is super easy to read, I'm shocked by the people who continually do. Anyway, I'll look at a scum game of Pie's to see if he's capable of sounding this riled up as scum.
Myko - Could you just speak clearly and out with it? Your prolonging this thing about the falcon scum read and acting all secretive about it isn't helping. And I can't tell if I find you suspicious because I really think you're suspicious or because you're just irritating the hell out of me.
This isn't a good reason to town read muffin. Though I do agree with muffin that there's a good chance that there's scum in the main characters and things he said in his first or second post.In post 237, Kagami wrote:I think Muffin is prob town for the incredibly bold roleclaim
and Kaze might be scum. He doesn't really feel like he's trying to figure out the game and there's this:
I hate this. In Post 194 he asked what was so bad about Post 92. Mykonian, *twitches, cracks neck and knuckles* doesn't explain in Post 198 he rather challenges Kaze to see it. Myk should have explained it, but he doesn't. So what does Kaze think he sees? It looks like Kaze is gearing up to be persuaded by this scum read. HOWEVER Kaze is new at this game. It is possible that he thinks he's supposed to see something there, and doesn't want to admit that he has no clue what Myk is talking about.In post 199, Kazekirimaru wrote:I wasn't exactly serious about the emoticon thing.
Regarding F-16: IthinkI see it, but I'll think on it rather than beg you for more explanation.
Haven't you only seen me as scum?In post 157, BROseidon wrote: Also Tammy needs to get her ass in here and obvtown up so she can lead. Towns without structure suck :/
VOTE: paschendale
Falcon - What's your read on Pie?