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yet 787 was typed perfectly... it's like you aren't really drunkRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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ooh look the fake drunk posts are backIn post 789, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:I havb't fucking lied once
your slot has lied multiple times and I have proven them lies but nice try.
oooh dat wifom.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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That's a lie right there.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Nope. The "he" is referring to hkcIn post 774, Jake from State Farm wrote:
this was also a lie, i have never dodged interactions with anyone and when I asked him to show me where he thinks I did, he never followed up just spouted out some shit about him going to work at mcdonaldsIn post 377, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:and you didn't dodge interaction with just me, you had done it with nacho as wellRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Hydra has a he and a she so my badRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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I already responded so what's with the face?In post 804, sangres wrote:
meIn post 801, fferyllt wrote:In post 795, sangres wrote:
Jake did you lie when you said nacho said he had to start work at mcdonalds or w/e it was?In post 794, Jake from State Farm wrote:That's a lie right there.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Have you ever had one?In post 808, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:that isn't my point thoughRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Bert is a he correct?Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Well I'm not going to refer to you as it or they so...Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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How is pointing out hk's multiple lies counter productive?Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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But they are actually lies. They are things he said about me that just aren't true. That is a lie.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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you don't think they are lies, what do you think they are?Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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went and re-read and you are actually right about kdub but why is the shroom vote meh?In post 829, Antihero wrote:for kdub, i feel like there's a lot of questioning, but little connection to the big picture. in particular, the PhD parts are bothersome (what's the opinion, does he like the scar lynch or not?; he's not criticizing the wagon, but leaving the door open to join it).
the shroom vote is meh too.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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wow what a helpful postRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Yep"Lying" means you think HKC knows that something is false and says it anyway.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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So why not do more? Question the people in scar's wagon better or question scar to determine his alignment. Saying you don't want to join it but would anyway is scummy. Who are your scum reads? What are you doing to try and get them lynched?I saw no good reasons for the Scar wagon, so I didn't want to join it. Independent of that, I have a null read on Scar himself. I guess it's fair for you to say I haven't taken a strong stance on it, but I simply don't have one at this point.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Great. Because she's under so much suspicion right now. Thanks for clearing that up for us all...In post 841, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:bert wants to say that he thinks ffery is town
and mara agreesRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Hkc is definitely scum on my wagonRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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I'm actually easy to work. Obviously if you call me scum for bs reasons I'm not but sangres doesn't agree with my reads yet I'm not fighting with him. He stays calm and interacts with me in a calm manner.
Use your words and actually explain your thinking using logic and I'm typically not going to argue with you. I may disagree with you but not argue.
Do you see me arguing with anyone else?Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Ok I'm ok with the idea of aegor being scum now. Anti has made good points and while I don't 100% town read him he's proving to be fairly towny. That vote was badRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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AJ is null so I don't see myself joining that wagon.
Given the point you made earlier about shroom I'll let him slide for now but hk and smp are still my desired lynchesRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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@AJ - I'm watching my wiz and I'm lazy. 2 recent town and scum games pleaseRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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i'll look over those games today at work but in the meantime
vote: aegorRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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We actually have 2 1/2 days til deadline.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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The mod gave us an extension.In post 906, HighShroomish wrote:The first VC is wrong...Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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See I get back into my new play-style and stop posting so much and everyone else stops talking.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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houston we have a problem here, I like a Shroom wagon but i don't like the people who are on itRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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like I haven't tried already...Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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vote shroom
I'll just take a long shower if he flips townRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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This is a real chess match isn't it sangresRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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I seriously lol'dRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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You would be wrong but I'm over it nowRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Shroom claim pleaseRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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what about the fact that he was going after for SMP early on but once SMP got votes on him he started defending smp, to the point where he (hold on to your hats here guys) LIED about smp's play on another site.
What is the town motivation behind that?Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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bingoIn post 978, sangres wrote:
I see no reason why he would do as much intentionally as scum unless he were scum with SMP.In post 976, Jake from State Farm wrote:what about the fact that he was going after for SMP early on but once SMP got votes on him he started defending smp, to the point where he (hold on to your hats here guys) LIED about smp's play on another site.
What is the town motivation behind that?
they are scum together like I said
what I don't get is why the last minute scramble to move everyone off shroom to smp when shroom is 1 away from lynch. he certainly isn't obv town nor is he helping the game along enough where he deserves to be saved.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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There certainly wasn't town motivation for it
P. edit - no I never played on that siteRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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I decided to pressure one of the low posters, so I believe SMP was the lowest at the time. I looked through his 2 completed games and noticed that he was playing differently this game (I had done the same in another game of mine that ended recently and was able to correctly identify scum so i felt this was reliable enough for pressure at the least)In post 986, Antihero wrote:so how would you know if shroom lied or not?
Shroom comes to his defense claiming that SMP normally is inactive and he and I go back and forth with me point to his games here, he mentions another site and gives me the name. I manage to look through games SMP played (4 games I believe) and 3 of them SMP was town and not inactive day 1.
Somebody said they would like a scum game to compare and that is where the 4th game came in, that was SMP's scum game and smp was fairly inactive day 1
so that was 3 games off site and 2 on this site where town SMP is active and 1 scum game off site and none on this site where day 1 he was inactive
Shroom argued with me and ultimately just said "I hate when I lose arguments"
Shroom's defense of SMP is weird, my attempt to get an SMP wagon failed and now we are close to a shroom wagon the interest for an SMP wagon is picking up.
and that's the story in a nutshellRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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I have no problem with an SMP lynch, I am just very leery that a last minute scramble is taking place to save shroom. Both of them are on my scum list so i'm really confused by Sangres's scrambleRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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I explained how meta got involved already, I used it as a way to pressure smp and shroom's defense of smp despite attacking him earlier was strange.
not to mention i don't see any obviously pro-town motives from himRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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yeah I am but I already said I will just take a long shower if shroom does flip town.
you haven't done a good job convincing me why kdub was scum anyway, i am more leery with smp/mac being on the wagon than I am with kdubRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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you just confused me with this postIn post 994, Antihero wrote:
you're confusing "optimal play" and "town play"In post 991, Jake from State Farm wrote:I explained how meta got involved already, I used it as a way to pressure smp and shroom's defense of smp despite attacking him earlier was strange.
not to mention i don't see any obviously pro-town motives from him
smart =/= town
dumb =/= scumRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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didn't want to lose a buddy day 1? It's kind of deflating to loose a buddy day 1 of a game.In post 999, Antihero wrote:
i'm confused about your whole caseIn post 997, Jake from State Farm wrote:you just confused me with this post
so... shroom backs out of a push on his buddy...why? what's the idea behind that?Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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or he felt like I was the easier target so tried to get people to wagon me? He doesn't ever vote me until after I vote SMPRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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ask people who bus what the point is
in the end I see no town motivation behind any of his actions, including the whole asking me to claim thing which you keep trying to brush off like that isn't a big dealRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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1. talked about what that I haven't addressed.
2. the big deal is deadline is 10 hours away and 1 needs 1 more to lynch and the other needs 4 more to lynch and I don't think there is enough time
3. plus the lack of attempt to get a smp wagon started before deadline day is very odd, where was this push yesterday or wednesday? it's oddRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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right but town cred from a day 1 scum lynch only lasts so long and that expiration date is before lyloIn post 1012, Antihero wrote:it's to get town cred from pushing a buddy's lynch. the whole idea being that the buddy will flip (which requires them to ... you know... die).
well day 1 I don't lynch any PR even if I think that person is scum so if my top scum suspect soft claimed i'd probably keep calling him scum and leave him be til day 2 but I'm literally the only person I know who has a do not lynch a claimed PR on day 1 rule since I see so many PRs being lynched day 1.In post 1012, Antihero wrote:town motivation: the person you think is scum softclaims. you call bullshit because it's easy for a scumbag to diffuse a wagon with a vague softclaim.
It's not good play, it's not optimal play, and it certainly isn't town play to force a person to claim just because, especially if that person isn't near a lynch which I wasn't.
If he didn't believe my soft claim he could have kept trying to convince people to vote me, the only reason why he was voting me in the first place was because I voted SMP. Isn't that something like a chainsaw or something? Why attack SMP's attacker? why hard defend SMP when he out right called SMP scum in an earlier post?
none of that is town motivationRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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cause it feels desperateIn post 1017, Antihero wrote:why is it "odd"? we've been talking about shroom for a while now so don't act like this shroom townread is something newRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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In post 1022, Antihero wrote:we're watching scumbag kdub completely get away with a mislynch and it's maddening
yet you aren't even voting him yourself, in fact there isn't a single VC on record that shows you voting kdub and the only 2 peopel you have been able to convince to vote him are sangres and hkc?
you made sense early on, you make no sense now.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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yet people are not voting you for playing to a scum win condition.In post 1024, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:people are calling him scum for anti-town reasons, non-alignment indicative reasons, and "meta" that isn't really even meta
this game is completely fucked right?Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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so I am supposed to drop MY SCUM READS for someone thatIn post 1037, Antihero wrote:fucking really?
you've completely enabled scum to hide in the midst of your shit storm with bert/mara. i am not the one who gets to hold the shitbag of shame in all this so you can take all the little jabs and redirect them at yourself.
1, you only voted for once and that vote lasted 6 minutes and that only happened after shroom was at L-1
2. you have made absolutely no case for nor provided any solid reasoning other than
In post 829, Antihero wrote:for kdub, i feel like there's a lot of questioning, but little connection to the big picture. in particular, the PhD parts are bothersome (what's the opinion, does he like the scar lynch or not?; he's not criticizing the wagon, but leaving the door open to join it).
the shroom vote is meh too.
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why did you wait til Shroom was L-2 before you actually tried to lynch SMP? You never voted him the entire game.In post 1043, sangres wrote:Getting too tired to push shit anymore. I think SMP is a significantly better lynch than Shroom, and the lynch is between those two today. I would be very happy if we lynched SMP, sad if we lynched Shroom. Please don't lynch Shroom.
Post 720 on April 21st you had SMP as a maybe and than you don't mention him again until he's now scum?
that makes no sense.
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not me because I don't have an egoRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Saying someone is scum but never voting him implies no conviction. You are trying to berate people for letting kdub slide but you never voted him in a serious manner. You never actively pushed his lynch.In post 1052, Antihero wrote:
no, it's pretty obvious you do. and i can handle disagreement, but don't act like this is some weird inconsistency that i'm scumreading kdub. you're being obtuse just to get at me and "win" the argument.In post 1049, Jake from State Farm wrote:not me because I don't have an ego
i've been saying why i think kdub is scum pretty well beyond the one thing you very dickishly quoted and you're acting like sangres and i are some sort of weirdos for ... i don't know... i guess having the audacity to disagree with you.
It certainly wasn't my ego that stopped you from doing that, so enlighten me why you didn't actively push your top scum read?Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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so why are you voting him?In post 1055, Antihero wrote:don't think SMP has really said anything really controversial or egregiously "bad".
also you thought his post 822 is bad, does that not apply anymore?Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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I also only have one vote though that never held me back from pushing the people I thought was scumIn post 1057, Antihero wrote:no, it implies that i only have one vote: viewtopic.php?p=5840094#p5840094
that's a cop out excuse if I ever saw one.
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why are you being intentionally dense?
You said the reason you didn't push your top scum read is because you only had 1 vote. That's the most absurd reason I have ever heard in my life.
So every game you play you never push your top scum reads? You just sheep others because you can't ever do anything with your lonely vote?
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Now answer my question with a answer that actually makes fucking sense.
Why did you not try to lynch kdub if he was one of your top lynch candidates? And don't give me the bullshit about you only having 1 vote.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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well I assume when you made this comment
he was your top scum read, ok so if not your top he was in your top 3.In post 1022, Antihero wrote:we're watching scumbag kdub completely get away with a mislynch and it's maddening
2. i did and you had 3 scum reads, voted 2 of them and didn't vote the 3rd until shroom was already at L-1 and you took your vote off him and moved him over to somebody you had earlier said was probably town because of his reaction to the ??? voter.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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Now you are you just trying to insult me.In post 1068, Antihero wrote:
i don't even know what you're talking about.In post 1065, Jake from State Farm wrote:Why did you not try to lynch kdub if he was one of your top lynch candidates? And don't give me the bullshit about you only having 1 vote.youmake no sense.
"town votealltheir scumreads"? is that the premise? how does that even work?
what alternate dimension are you in?
You vote 2 of your scum reads right?
When someone you don't want lynched gets to l-1 you start making a big deal about letting your 3rd scum read (kdub) slide
You never voted kdub. You never tried to get others to vote him. Why now? Why him and not your other 2 reads, people you had actually voted ?
Your reactions make no sense. I'm making perfect sense.Robbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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i'd vote smp over kdub but I don't see any reason not to lynch shroom so you still need 3 moreRobbed of a scummy for what had to be the best unvote in mafiascum history.
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