Mini 1634 - English Premier League Mafia (Game over)

[BROseidon]

VOTE: guyett

I don't know people in this game

[BROseidon]

You're L-2?

[BROseidon]

VOTE: guyett

I don't know people in this game

You know me

That's why I voted you!

[BROseidon]

VOTE: BROseidon

Only person I know!!

Hello all!!

Who the fuck are you?

[BROseidon]

Early town reads on Guyett and BBT.

VOTE: Kaboose

[BROseidon]

Okay, no town read for you then

[BROseidon]

what has them reading town? I assume you know them better than me.

BBT's nonchalantness about getting wagoned reads as town to me; he looks like he didn't know/remember that Guyett was already on his wagon when Guyett dropped the 2nd vote, which pings as a more town than scum thing.

Guyett's similar nonchalantness/boldness about the whole wagon thing seems like something more likely to come from town than scum.

It doesn't move the meter a ton, but it's something.

[BROseidon]

A town read at this point in the game is about as strong as wicker furniture, so...

[BROseidon]

35 - Reasons for vote BRO?

I didn't like my vote on you, so I moved it somewhere else at random.

[BROseidon]

I hope I'm not the only one who thinks Kaboose's 87 is nothing but fluff.

[BROseidon]

Meh I'll just play this game when I can be killed. Let me know when people start dying, because I won't be.

Okay I really want to lynch this now.

[BROseidon]

@Massive

- You vote @RA for playing in pretty much the exact same fashion as myself. I haven't revisited that thought train either despite being the one to bring it up, and am voting Whiskers for much the same reason. Does that make me scum also?

Similarly, is there a reason you're attacking massive instead of myself (or as well as myself) given I am questioning RA and not you over the exact same thing?

The post has a lot of cool associatives in it!

[BROseidon]

It's pretty simple. Kaboose's "I'm not playing until you threaten to kill me" is so anti-town that I cannot fathom it coming from a town player. I'm significantly more sure of his scum-ness than I am of 4burner due to a combination of his play and the post I quoted. I can see potential town motivation behind 4burner's posts, but not Kaboose's.

The bigger issue I have with is is that he crumbed BP, which defeats the whole purpose of being BP if town and is a fairly basic claim for scum to make.

[BROseidon]

Gives two town reads, explains both town reads, and then discredits both town reads. Makes sense.

[BROseidon]

Don't really have too much to add right now. Scripten/BBT/RA are all pretty fucking town for this early. Kinda don't like massive and death right now, but those are fairly secondary to Kaboose/Whiskers.

[BROseidon]

VOTE: Whiskers

My vote stays here.

All day.

Every day.

Until he is lynched.

#productivity

[BROseidon]

Now mod confirming flavour is important, if nexus is a liverpool fan then it could be a flavour related Named Townie/Innocent Child thing. Nexus isn't a liverpool fan going by that post so either whiskers is a guilty child or something outed him. Guilty Child fits more with the flavour of the game.

This is dumb.

[BROseidon]

Considering the mod supports Forest, I'd say that Liverpool are likely to be scum in this game. Only team I know their fans don't like cos of Hillsborough. Not sure how else the mod would decide who the scum were, maybe he'd line the clubs up with roles first then work from there? It might be pissing in the wind a bit to try & work out which clubs were allocated to which roles but it still might be worthwhile looking at that.

I hate the 2nd attempt to push this even more

Also, why would you vote Guyett then push his shitty-ass reasoning?

[BROseidon]

I really don't like those whisker posts on the last page. Like really don't. So that's where my vote goes.
VOTE: whiskers
I should be more active now that the holidays are over.

This also needs to be killed with fire.

[BROseidon]

@Guyett

I know how BBT's vote ended up in me. It's not that hard to see.
I misjudged Kaboose's PR because he breadcrumbed the opposite direction. He never denied that he was LP even when pressure built up so the possibility of him being more so BP didn't even cross my mind. If he's conditional infinite BP, he should have SUPER towned, not "gonna afk until people start dying". And lynchproof wasn't a far-fetched idea, as Scripten was lynch resistant (which makes way more sense for town).

Take a step back and re-read 199. Does it sound like I'm protecting Whiskers or suspecting you? Try saying you still think I'm protecting Whiskers.
I can only see that as lining up mislynches (actually if Whiskers flips scum I'd likely be next to be lynched because you planted the idea that I "protected" Whiskers? But 1-1 trade is never worth it for scum so... this is so hard).

Both flipped town PRs were strictly pro-town, I'd take a step further and argue that all town PRs are. Two flips so far: one allows you to actively scumhunt and obvtown without fear of NK, the other gives one fewer NK. Nothing grey about these powers. According to people the game's generally believed to be 10-3 and you need a guilty child in the game when there are 10 PRs? I don't think you're outguessing the mod, you're outderping the scum.

Kaboose (7-LYNCH)- BROseidon, Guyett, BlueBloodedToffee,

Scripten

, deathfisaro, 4burner, Whiskers

At least one of these has to be scum, it's too hard to imagine a 7 town mislynch.
Both you and BBT were on Kaboose wagon and now you two are starting day 2 with Whiskers wagon. However, from the opening of day 2 BBT's play makes sense. RA was on Whiskers wagon from yesterday so him joining makes sense. Yours doesn't.

As for who I find scummy from day 1, I need to re-read the whole thing. I was already on vacation when this game started and couldn't follow up closely enough. I'm still busy till 2nd (expecting 14-16 hr work days till then) but I'll try to check in.

This is pretty town. Earnest and at times stupid in a way that I wouldn't expect scum to be.

[BROseidon]

I said town/not scum... not town outright. Meaning I am just not seeing them as scum right this minute. But I am not really picking up on anything scummy from the other 4.

The word you're looking for is "null"

[BROseidon]

I have a sneaky feeling scum are being quiet letting town make noise fighting each other

Let's fill the thread with empty posts that look shiny on the surface level but don't actually do anything!

[BROseidon]

BBT and RA are the only people towning it up enough for me to have town reads on them. Death and 4burner are probably the most town after that, but even then I'm not super confident in those reads.

VOTE: Yiley

[BROseidon]

BBT and RA are the only people towning it up enough for me to have town reads on them. Death and 4burner are probably the most town after that, but even then I'm not super confident in those reads.

VOTE: Yiley

Jesus Christ.

Can you not town-read RA and death please?

Thanks.

Can you not be wrong?

Thanks.

In all seriousness though he's town. You really should back off when there's actual scum to lynch.

[BROseidon]

BTW, this is more like an overreaction. (Take note, RA.)

BRO didn't even vote you here. He didn't even vote you, eventually. He just called you out, and you curse at him and throw out an OMGUS vote. Shows how strong your Guyett vote was: not very.

This is on point, except the conclusion. The overreaction is because I hit a nerve.

VOTE: Ollie

[BROseidon]

Reads;

@RA

- Town. I sense a lot of exasperation in his dealings with BBT, and his train of thought regarding the early wagon is pretty similar to mine. I haven't seen him take any scummy positions or noticed anything that made me think "hold on a minute, that's counter to what I'm seeing in this game", and he isn't hiding from the thread. So yeah, town read. A pretty good one.

Also, huge condolences on the loss.

@Massive

- Pinged early for his ignorance of me with regards to his RA case, but I can forgive that given the BBT/Massive parallels in pushing RA, largely due to townreading BBT. Granted, this alone doesn't make him town, but questioning the motives behind Kaboose's derpness was town mindset, suspicion of Guyett is following my train of thought, and Post 312/Iso 7 gives me good vibes. Town lean here.

@Yiley

- Hrmm. Had to Iso to notice anything here, really. If you want to talk about folks going under the radar, or attempting it, here's your example. Not really getting any great reads by post 60, which is pretty poor, and it's not exactly like page 3 reads have to be ironclad. Reads to me as not wanting to offer anything that could be scumread. Comes through in post 216 finally voting whiskers for shitty reasons, ie none. And then post 327 is just ...pointless as town, filler and prodding as scum. Scumlean here.

Guyett

Hoo-boy. Spent day 1 not really doing much of note. Then the Whiskers push at D2 start based on really suspicious mod-related guesswork. Then abandoned it pretty quick once BBT came in expressing doubts. Ties with Ollie don't help, but mostly as town I just can't trust the mod-based Whiskers push because it's so flimsy as to be flaccid. Scum. (My Post 332/iso 32 is the gist of the mod stuff)

@BBT

- Probably too involved and verbose to be scum, but that's more gut than anything. I like the pushing, and have higher priority targets to focus on for the moment, but the RA case is pinging for reasons given yesterday which I'll come back to if in need. Happy to trust my townread for the moment though.

@Death

- Probably town. Setup spec I do a hell of a lot as it helps me frame the game in my mind, and the suspicion of Guyett doesn't seem like it comes from a scumbuddy so based on association I'd call this slot likely town. Could obviously change, though.

@Whiskers

- Hrmm. I find this slot quite scummy on D1 but that's fading with other targets cropping up. It is entirely possible the RVS was an RVS and I'm attributing far too meaning into it - we all have our individual styles after all. Furthermore, as outed Liverpool via Mod announcement - I find this more than likely to be a scum move designed to cause havoc. Whiskers hasn't claimed it, nobody has come forward to say town is responsible... Pressing the reset button here and focusing elsewhere. Null to town. (Though I want to go on record as saying what townie hits the submit on a vote with their wagon of choice at L-2 WITHOUT reading the rest of the thread? Shame, Whiskers, Shame.)

@Elk

- Needs to be replaced. Or prodded. Something.

@BRO

- Agree with the whole Guyett/Ollie modgate suspicion and the Yiley threat but largely null on everything else. Very much on the outside prodding the game, but that seems like BRO's playstyle given a game I'm currently in also, rather than any alignment tell. Benefit of the doubt is to label this slot town, liable to change if we keep hitting town on the lynches though.

@Ollie

- Comes in swinging, takes a tone I really don't like, and then tries to game a Mod on a site he's only pretty just freshly joined? Unless he knows them from offsite or something similar. Basically I'm thinking scum due to Whiskers/Liverpool/Mod stuff ala Guyett. And never actually voted Whiskers despite agreeing with the anti-whiskers stuff from memory. Votes BRO over very little, comparatively.


So I've got my scumteam as Guyett/Ollie/Yiley, which I'm scarily confident in for a D2 read. But everyone else is basically town bar a few nulls, so let's see how this shakes out.

VOTE: Guyett

It bothers me that your reads are fairly in-line with mine, but that the BBT read reasons are bad.

[BROseidon]

So what? If we had a vig who was forced to shoot the worst player on day 1 then you'd be dead by now. Shit play is no guarantee of anything. He hasn't given us enough to vote on him yet. If it's just a vote to get him to post more then cool, we'll soon see. Yiley might just not be into the game. I couldn't get into a few games on here myself & posted in a similar way. I want these lurking guys to post more so we can get an accurate read.

The thing is, Yiley has given us stuff.

Elk is the one who hasn't.

[BROseidon]

This knocking the idea down because itd "outguessing the mod" is annoying though. Yes it can only go so far but I got Stoke and my power is to do with restricting someone (like a Tony Pulis Stoke team). The mod doesn't like Liverpool so I would be absolutely shocked if he made Liverpool an Innocent Child.
So in my opinion either there is some role that makes the mod confirm a players flavour publicly or he is a Guilty Child type of flavour.

How about this.

We don't assume IC or GC.

Not fucking hard.

[BROseidon]

Yeah I'm pretty confident about Whisker's-town, now.

It'll be really hard to convince me to vote for anyone who isn't Ollie or Yiley for the rest of the day.

[BROseidon]

@BRO - BBT is either being a very proactive scum, blending in with his questions and the like, or just playing a decent town game so far. Either way I'm not going to figure it out today, and I have more productive lines of investigation on the boil anywho.

You're either bad at articulating what you mean, or what you mean is wrong and that's a problem.

[BROseidon]

@347 - Guyett, how is 4burner scum if Yiley is town?

Either you are scum or there is scum on your wagon.
I have you as town so there must be scum on the wagon. I'm town so either Yiley or 4burner is scum

So why the fuck would you ever vote off a perceived coin flip for scum?

Also:

[BROseidon]

Also, this is what I think of Elk's vote:

[BROseidon]

(Also that's L-1)

[BROseidon]

Yeah that claim is bullshit.

[BROseidon]

4burner wouldn't be my first choice to hammer, but one I'm okay with.

[BROseidon]

We have 2 days. Either get a guyett wagon going on vote Ollie.

[BROseidon]

And tbh, I'm taking the echoing silence from Elk to be a bit of a scum-tell. I told him several times, "you get one chance," and in his response each time he just complained more that he wasn't good enough. This just kind of looks like a newbie playing AtE and playing the noob card, and then silently trying to wait out the phase under the radar.

[pre-edit]
@BRO, how do we feel about the SS claim? There's a chance that it's fake and he's scum, and a chance that we're wrong. In that case, how do we tactically manoeuvre around the hammer? Such as having Yiley or Elk hammer, in case of true claim?

Do we have enough shit for a Guyett wagon? I think that a different lynch today will give us something to look at that might support a Guyett lynch tomorrow, Ollie or Elk, for instance.

I'm predicting that BRO or massive dies toNight, so "last" reads and cases would be nice.

4burner said he'd be willing to hammer, but id rather have a hammer from Guyett, Elk, or Yiley-slot.

[BROseidon]

Alternatively, I would be willing to just lynch elk and go back to Ollie tomorrow

[BROseidon]

VOTE: BroVOTE: BroVOTE: BroVOTE: BroVOTE: BroVOTE: BroVOTE: BroVOTE: Bro

Never ever moving this vote

Not this shit again.

[BROseidon]

Guyett's acting hilariously like I did in 167 for how much he's siting that game

[BROseidon]

I was going to deadline-wagon elk, but I see that the deadline has been indefinitely postponed.

[BROseidon]

Could this be a jester play?

[BROseidon]

Like, Guyett is acting 100% like he wants to get lynched, which makes me uncomfortable

[BROseidon]

Hi BROseidon. Are you town?

Yes

[BROseidon]

Hopefully Guyett gets modkilled for the post so we can go into night phase without him spamming up the thread like caught scum.

[BROseidon]

VOTE: Guyett

[BROseidon]

Hopefully Guyett gets modkilled for the post so we can go into night phase without him spamming up the thread like caught scum.

Why so eger to get into night? Surely town would want the game open as long as possible to get as much information as possible to help in future days... VERY quick days like the one you are hoping to get only benefit non town factions like scum who would want the game to close quickly so nothing else gets caught.

vote:Bro

I ask for the day to be as long as possible as scum. Gives me more room to outplay and more room for the game to bog down.

[BROseidon]

Also Guyett is super obvscum so I don't see a reason to make this longer than it needs to be.

[BROseidon]

Also the fact that you use the exact logic I try to pass off as pro-town when I do this as scum is disconcerting.

[BROseidon]

Don't see any scum motive in what Guyett is doing. Scum already lost 1 to a modkill... why would csum risk another modkill by breaking restrictions/posting role PM.

Guyatt as scum makes no sense right now, he can't talk properly, or answer anything etc... too easy a wagon and too fast a wagon.

I think he's given up and is hoping on his partner to carry.

[BROseidon]

VOTE: Elk

Forgot he was in this game.

Why are you ignoring practically conf-scum Guyett

[BROseidon]

His shitty-ass defense of Ollie and his desperation in dissolving the wagon is pretty damning.

I'm more confident that Guyett is scum than Elk, and Guyett also is more annoying to deal with. That's like 2 reasons to want to lynch Guyett. My confidence in Elk-scum is much lower.

[BROseidon]

How hard he tried to derail the Ollie wagon.

Among other things.

[BROseidon]

Like, the issue with the Ollie thing isn't that it's the sort of thing that you could really get wrong. He was just super obv-scum

[BROseidon]

Also where is Ghostlin. He replaced Yiley and is really easy to read.

[BROseidon]

Guyett could also, like, be lying about how he used his power.

Because scum lie, and shit.

[BROseidon]

Guyett says he thinks I'm confbiasing town.

[BROseidon]

VOTE: Bro VOTE: conf bias

[BROseidon]

You know what I actually cba catching up on like 350 posts.

Reads;

Town; Whiskers, Death

Null/leaning town; massive, RA

Null/leaning scum; Guyett, BRO

Scum; Elk, Yiley.

Although, if what everyone is saying is true and Ollie did go after Yiley hard, then Yiley might not be scum and I would replace him with BRO.

Ollie was on me and Elk the hardest, not Yiley.

[BROseidon]

Nope. problem is, BBT is still questionable-- I mean, unsure. It's not obvious. Elk is more-obviously scummy and until he's gone, it'll be more difficult to push a lynch on the subtler BBT. As for Guyett, he's out of commission. Sure we can lynch him today, tomorrow, at any time, but I'd like to be able to hold his feet to the fire right up until we do it, make sure he's got nothing we need, then lynch him. We just can't do that now.

What you're talking about with Guyett here doesn't make sense to me.

[BROseidon]

Elk getting scumread is perhaps a side effect of my pursuit of Ollie. Ollie's reasoning behind Yiley vote was super scummy because as I said a dozen times, elk was a better candidate using that reasoning. Ollie resisted hard, so I went after elk harder and elk wagon started building momentum but Ollie resisted the change of vote until the last minute. This reluctance of elk vote convinced me that elk is now likely Ollie's buddy and Yiley -now Ghostlin- likely town.

I don't remember it happening like this at all.

[BROseidon]

Yeah, but, you're not doing anything and I kinda think you're scum.

Would rather lynch Ghostlin first anyway.

[BROseidon]

You're saying I'm not doing anything when... I'm pretty clearly getting shit done.

[BROseidon]

Like, I should be fairly obviously town at this point.

[BROseidon]

LOL, you have to be joking.

You actually HAVE to be joking.

What 'shit' are you getting done?

Catching Ollie-scum.

What have you done.

[BROseidon]

I'm also trying to get scum-Guyett lynched right now, so there's that.

[BROseidon]

which probably points to deathfisaro-town. Unfortunately not a lot of info there, and I already was leaning that way.

Why is Death town for that vote count but not me?

Also, why are you ignoring the context that Whiskers and I were the driving forces behind the Ollie wagon.

[BROseidon]

Well, it's either you or him, and I'm pretty sure it's him, so...

[BROseidon]

Yeah no.

No way in fucking hell that Ollie wagon dissolved without scum influence.

[BROseidon]

Why is Death town for that vote count but not me?

Because your involvement on the Kaboose wagon is incidental at best. You vote in 35 (which is practically RVS) and just never muster up the energy to change it.

Also, why are you ignoring the context that Whiskers and I were the driving forces behind the Ollie wagon.

Your vote for Ollie is 320. Ollie gets to L-1 by 423 and in between, you don't mention or interact with Ollie at all. Which wagon exactly were you the "driving force" on?

1) The point I was responding to had nothing to do with the Kaboose wagon. You quoted the Ollie wagon and then said "Well this makes Death town"

2) That's why I included Whiskers. I made the catch, but the argument between Ollie and Whiskers really made Ollie's scumminess shine.

[BROseidon]

BBT's sudden shift to massive doesn't sit well with me, though.

[BROseidon]

Because your scumread looks more like you're looking for a reason to scumread him than anything else.

[BROseidon]

Ghostlin avoiding the thread is sort of a red flag, but not the lynch for today.

[BROseidon]

Unless he scums up the thread. Then he totally is

[BROseidon]

VOTE: Elk

[BROseidon]

VOTE: Elk

Care to explain?

I don't think I need to explain your alignment to you.

[BROseidon]

My main concern with Ghost is that he's avoiding the thread to avoid me dunking him. Still, I'd rather give him more time in case it's actually IRL business.

[BROseidon]

I'll give him until the deadline on picking up his prod.

[BROseidon]

VOTE: Ghostlin

[BROseidon]

@mod could BRO please get prodded.

I've had a super busy past 2 days - haven't had enough time for all my mafia games.

I think we should mass claim today, given that tomorrow is almost certainly LyLo if we mislynch.

[BROseidon]

I'm also leaning towards BBT-scum between him and Guyett because of yesterdays play. Still super confident that one of them is scum, though.

[BROseidon]

Given BBT's play at the end of yesterday, I can see eager town jumping on it really aggressively. A scum flip from BBT sort-of exonerates elk, since I doubt that scum-elk would really be bussing at this point, so the main place I'd look for a buddy is massive.

[BROseidon]

The benefit is that mass claiming in LyLo is dumb

[BROseidon]

At Oman-meet something something will have time for this soon.

[BROseidon]

So it's just massive/me/whiskers left unclaimed?

I'm Man U, 1-shot gladiator. My gladiate is night-targeting, so I'm just not gonna use it.

[BROseidon]

I want massive to claim before Whiskers.

[BROseidon]

Also, I'm hammering BBT after mass claim is over unless something pretty drastic happens. I find the apathy to be scummy as fuck.

[BROseidon]

Given this player list, I don't get why that'd be a concern.

Massive is hammering, and a premature hammer from massive is a scum claim. Anyone denying massive the hammer is also a scum claim.

[BROseidon]

Bro what was the flavour in your role pm?

It's that I force a spending war.

[BROseidon]

Do you target someone at night and 1v1 the next day?

Yes

[BROseidon]

I'm whatever-it-says in the mod posts at the beginning of the day (I don't follow football, so I don't know anything about the teams). My power is that my flavour is announced at the beginning of each game day from day 2 onward.

This is dumb.

[BROseidon]

I think that the role claims don't really do much in terms of sorting things out. Nothing's here that couldn't conceivably be a scum role, and a lot of shit isn't particularly viably provable (mine, RAs). Lynching off reads is the correct play.

[BROseidon]

VOTE: bbt

[BROseidon]

I think you missed the part where BBT is dead.

[BROseidon]

Why no lynch?

It's the "technically" correct play in MyLo, but I'm trying to figure out why we don't have a kill last night. Nobody claimed a protective/defensive PR, so the next explanation would be a NK gambit. I don't see who as scum would benefit from that.

If anybody is a defensive PR who landed a block/protect, it might be worth claiming.

[BROseidon]

Red Arrow - Arsenal - conditional bulletproof
massive - Sunderland - Conditional governor
Guyett - Stoke City - 1 Shot Silencer
Whiskers - Liverpool - Flavour Mod Announced
theelkspeaks - Newcastle - Vote Loan Shark
BROseidon - Manchester United - 1 Shot Gladiator

No night kill, and delayed flip interesting.

on claim elk maybe scum.... same with massive.

I think scum is in Massive/Elk & Bro

Whiskers is town, Guyett I think (or hope) is town...the other 3 is where I think we will find scum

I don't like this post :/

[BROseidon]

lol

My role is pretty straightforward. I target someone at night, if we're both alive the next day we're the only 2 lynch options.

[BROseidon]

Yeah.

[BROseidon]

Why no lynch?

It's the "technically" correct play in MyLo, but I'm trying to figure out why we don't have a kill last night. Nobody claimed a protective/defensive PR, so the next explanation would be a NK gambit. I don't see who as scum would benefit from that.

If anybody is a defensive PR who landed a block/protect, it might be worth claiming.

NK gambit or perhaps scum forgot to submit a kill

Maybe. I think the correct response to a NK gambit is to no-lynch.

That said, I want explicit claims from everyone that they couldn't be responsible for there not being a kill.

[BROseidon]

Option 1 is appealing because ollie did highlight inactivity, if theres no day chat he could have been sending a message to scum to oncrease activity.

Does Ollie have a history of coaching as scum?

[BROseidon]

Right now I'm leaning Bro and RA scum.

Bro from VCA amongst other smaller things
RA for pushing the BBT wagon and also claim (Thinking on it I don't see town having 2 bulletproofs)

I agree with 1/2 of this. The other half is dumb >:C

[BROseidon]

I'm Newcastle

I'm a "vote loan shark" - I can give a player of my choice a doublevote for one day, but the following day, I control their vote. This ability is one-shot and not used yet.

If Elk was scum surely they would have killed to bring the game to LyLo and he could have given his partner another vote to auto win? (this is assuming the claim is legit)

1) Claim has to be proven legit, which it doesn't seem to have been yet.

2) It sounds like Elk might have to give away his vote for part 1? That's how Shos's role in Capcom Crossover worked. There could also be restrictions about using it on a partner (in Capcom, Shos could only give his vote to a partner every other day)

[BROseidon]

3. I'm not 100% on bro being town, but if we assume he is, isn't there some way we could use his power to prevent lylo from actually happening?

No. I can make the choice be between me and one other person. If I choose someone who's town, scum straight-up win the game.

[BROseidon]

NL is the safe play, but is bad if we have someone who's the obvious next NK (since the NK won't give info at that point)

[BROseidon]

I think whether scum kill Guyett, me, or Whiskers gives us more information to go off of.

[BROseidon]

VOTE: NL

[BROseidon]

I think we NL and see who the NK hits.

[BROseidon]

I really don't like Guyett's vote jumping this day phase.

[BROseidon]

Read his stuff from today. He was like "one of BRO/RA is scum, VOTE RA," then you replace into the RA slot, put suspicion on me, and then immediately jumps onto me with a blank vote. That pings super hard.

[BROseidon]

I think its RA

or

Whiskers and Bro is the other scum

.

I misremembered.

Then your original RA vote doesn't make any sense.

Also, why are you the only one who's adamantly against a NL here?

[BROseidon]

The point is that the NK IS information. Just because you hate WIFOM/NKA doesn't make you the arbiter of whether we use it.

The only time you don't NL in MyLo is when you have someone who you KNOW is going to get shot (IC, etc). We don't have that.

[BROseidon]

Gg all.

Definitely a game where town not having really strong leadership killed them in the end. Lurking and playing up the apathy worked really well.

[BROseidon]

I"m still not seeing why game is over: Seems there were three Town endgamed, a fourth killed during the night, and two Scum.

So uh, daystart with 3 townies and 2 mafia??

What am I missing??

Guyett died at end of day.

We shoot elk.

Day starts 2-2