Mini 1670 - WTF MAFIA

[McMenno]

Listen up!

I am a third party survivor,

but...

I can vote in the afterlife, and if I'm killed, my win condition changes to see the faction that killed me lose! If I'm lynched, that faction will be that of the hammerer...

So,

in short, don't lynch me!

[McMenno]

I'm just going to scum hunt. If you lynch me, then

fuck you

. If Mafia kills me, I have information from the afterlife... And my vote.

VOTE: elusive

Yup.

[McMenno]

Yup, go ahead and lynch me. And another third party will be

sure

to claim after he saw what happened to the first one that did...

[McMenno]

Yup, go ahead and lynch me. And another third party will be

sure

to claim after he saw what happened to the first one that did...

Your win condition is to survive until the end game. There is no possible way you can be trusted to play for the town win con in LYLO when you can just wait for scum to vote and hammer and you win no matter what. How on earth do you expect to be anything but a policy lynch as a survivor?

I don't know, maybe that I am an extra vote for mafia if I'm lynched?

[McMenno]

Does that mean you believe his claim?

Sure, at least partially.

Also you're employing the exact thing I just accused you of, so I'm happy with sitting on my vote for now.

That's perfectly fine.
I understand the need to scumhunt elsewhere, but I'm afraid I'm going to need some sleep before I'm capable of doing that properly.

In the meantime, I'll be a little obnoxious, and remind McMenno that he is doing the opposite of what he said he would.
If he wishes to contribute to town, but doesn't have the energy to actually scumhunt, he can ease in by replying to the questions already directed at him, or acknowledging he will not be doing so:

Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but why did you decide to scumhunt, rather than look purposefully scummy, or just afk and cruise-control your way to victory, McMenno?

Oh, right. And then there's the elephant in the room.
What happens if

third party

kills you, McMenno?

Or ask more details like how does his vote work, how many times (or what limits) there are on his vote, and stuff like that. Also, McMenno why did you choose to just spill your guts in the first post of the game instead of waiting till you were in any danger?

Thank you for your consideration, and see you all in a few hours!

1. Because I thought people would believe my claim? It's WTF Mafia, after all.

2. Third Party is a faction. I've just asked the mod what would happen if I self-hammer.

3. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ess_Spirit

4. See 1.

[McMenno]

If I self-hammer I auto-lose. :'(

[McMenno]

2. Third Party is a faction.

[McMenno]

I want to nuke McMenno from orbit

You're so subtle~

If a 3rd party kills Menno then his goal would be to kill that player. That should be obvious shouldn't it?

I thought so too, but he's calling third-party a faction in and of itself, which strikes me as more lies to make things harder to understand (or just to save his bacon).

Is it not?

[McMenno]

*cue dramatic sound effects*

[McMenno]

@Bellaphant A dolphin, that "flips" at the end of the day.

Dunno where my vote's at, but this seems like the most logical place:

VOTE: Derangement

[McMenno]

I might as well set up some codes, now that it has calmed down a bit. I will use these codes when I'm killed by scum. If I'm lynched, then I'll just fuck around, I guess.

If I vote a player, I (obviously) scumread them.

If I vote a player, but immediately unvote them after that, I townread them.

If I vote someone twice in a post, then I have information from town players in the dead PT that they are scum.

If I vote someone, then vote no lynch, then I have information from town players in the dead PT that they are town.

[McMenno]

I might as well set up some codes, now that it has calmed down a bit. I will use these codes when I'm killed by scum. If I'm lynched, then I'll just fuck around, I guess.

If I vote a player, I (obviously) scumread them.

If I vote a player, but immediately unvote them after that, I townread them.

If I vote someone twice in a post, then I have information from town players in the dead PT that they are scum.

If I vote someone, then vote no lynch, then I have information from town players in the dead PT that they are town.

I have a really hard time believing that someone will have access to the dead thread and be able to use coded communication in this way. This just seems less and less plausible as time goes on.


In other news, I need a V/LA until Sunday evening. I'll be offline sitewide. See ya'll then.

If you have a hard time believing these things, maybe you shouldn't have signed up for a game called "WTF Mafia".

[McMenno]

ement is the most unsure about what to do with me. I think he is scum, not sure what to do with me yet, because if I die by the hands of town, I am a guaranteed vote for scum, but if I'm left alive, he's not sure what I'd do.

[McMenno]

Yes chabge the avvie pleaz


Also whenever you are drunk, ppst "drunkpost" and then post.

Whenever you're drunk, don't post at all.

[McMenno]

Derang

ement is the most unsure about what to do with me. I think he is scum, not sure what to do with me yet, because if I die by the hands of town, I am a guaranteed vote for scum, but if I'm left alive, he's not sure what I'd do.

[McMenno]

I mean, his stance on the issue.

[McMenno]

I feel like I'm sheeping but it's of no use to lynch a person that's gone from hyperactive to lurking their ass off.

VOTE: shos

[McMenno]

Because it collects all the posts of only the three people you're talking about, and because I literally asked you to tell me WHERE in these interactions you see scummy?

you repeatedly say that the interactions are bad, yet nobody told me WHERE. like post NUMBERS and stuff that I can see. I read that ISO and it didn't look bad to me, hence my question.

for you to hammer me you'll need to unvote, then I'll vote myself and you hammer

Why do you want elusive to hammer you?

[McMenno]

*actively ignores McMenno*

How is this helpful?

this obviously means that I acknowledge being asked and refuse to answer -_-;

@Belle:
ika literally defined scum in that post. and what can possibly be completely different? an SK? please.

ever considered Jeane crumbing? FFS when did you join the site? yesterday?
and obviosuly mixing games up is MIXING GAMES UP and completely irrelevant to the game? unless your argument is that she intentionally did that to keep lurking, but I doubt that's it.

in page 10 I stand by everything I said, and you accusing that as coming from scum is horseshit; all your posts on that page are just shit content-wise and look fake, as in, oh let's find something to say uhhhh HERE strawman thissss strawman thatttttt annnnd we got a case dun dun dun

and sorry for treating you like a boy if I did <3

Why do you refuse to answer this question of mine? Do you fear your answer might incriminate you even further?

Here's my prediction for the near future:
D1 Belle dies after 1v1ing elusive
N1 I get NKed

lol

@ric: he interacted on the specific single only thing which he would not get answered for. anything else I'd answer, but again, you not understanding this is probably because of your onsite age

You keep setting up 1v1s. First Bins and me, then Belle and elusive. This is while neither Bins, nor Belle, nor elusive have been labeled viable lynch candidates by a number of people, except for, apparently, you.

[McMenno]

Jeanne, do you have a really weird PR?

[McMenno]

why is a jokey comment about Jeanne's weird playstyle in this game while she has already fullclaimed rolefishing?

[McMenno]

I don't think he is saying that?

[McMenno]

I believe you mean supersaint.

[McMenno]

If I hammer myself that would explainenough how you are all jist wrong?

This is a WTF mafia. I have a role that I have not heard of before. I can agree to hammer myself, or to allow Ric or elusive to hammer me. (If they dare, lol).

The fact that morw than one guy thinks they can outguess the mod in a game like this dazzles me because FFS guys.

Maybe that

is

the right thing to do, but i doubt it.

Holy shit I jjst realized this is a newbie game

Everyone joined 2015 or 2014 excwpt me

What am I doing here

One of us, one of us...

[McMenno]

I want more votes on Ric

Then why are you not voting him...?

[McMenno]

Wait... Mod error I guess.

[McMenno]

Oh gee look ... the mod just confirmed what I said days ago. Can we just invoke Lynch All Liars now?

The problem with leaving McMenno alive is that he is doing exactly what he needs to do to meet his win condition. He just needs to fool us into letting him live into end game and then he just votes with scum and he wins. There's a reason that survivors are viewed as policy lynches. Add onto that his bullshit claim, and he just needs to die.

@snscompt1 - You wouldn't think a short V/LA would throw me off my style so easily, but it has. Feel free to look at my sitewide activity. I'll get caught up and back to my usual self. This is the first time I've ever had to go fully off site for a few days and it has been disorienting, to say the least, trying to get back into the groove of things.

...Are you seriously adding "Lynch All Liars" to you list of why we should lynch me? Like, really? For one, I don't think my role is actually bastard. The "Alignment Change", as you seem to like to call it, can be reasonably anticipated, and if it wasn't there, I would just lose, The End. This gives me an opportunity to win after I'm dead. In the most-used example of Alignment Change, The Cult, the Alignment Change CAN'T be reasonably anticipated.

[McMenno]

And if you still don't believe me, go ahead. Lynch me.

[McMenno]

But I still think shos is a better lynch for today.

[McMenno]

(maybe mcmenno Should hammer. Unless I'm mistaken, two birds one stone, right?) if I'm wrong, I think ric's plan is fine.

Drixx, did you mean me, not sns?

Sounds fine by me.

UNVOTE: shos

[McMenno]

Okay, so I get it, shos is Vengeful.

[McMenno]

Announcing this to all my games.

V/LA until Monday

.

[McMenno]

I'm back, and I actually read the game up to now. I've harvested that my scumread on the Derangement/Titus slot hasn't withered away, but my shos scumread may have. I think Ricastle about shos' role. I'm not going to vote either Bins or Wanderer. I think Jeanne should probably lynch Titus.

[McMenno]

I am thinking

ARS Bins scum team
elusive 3p of unknown wincon
Ricaste, 3p dayvig

3 scum + 3P scum + 3 3Ps seems unbalanced to say the least.

[McMenno]

ok

im a spoiled townie
i basically show up as yohgurt to cops and VT to role cop
i'm hated
and there's one other aspect i really don't want to claim because it makes me useless if i do. i don't use it during the day tho.

I know this role! I even thought it up!

So basically, from what I've gathered, Titus is still scummish, but not as much as I thought, and my townread on elusive has weakened a bit. And ARS, seriously, ARS... Are you going for "Too scummy to be scum"? Is that what you're trying to do? You're working against the town in every possible way. You're saying you will work against Titus unless she does what "The Thread" wants you to do, which,

apparently

, is you, and maybe a bit of elusive. That votecount would be a good way to clear/incriminate a bunch of people, and you just blew it up. Well, that's just great, isn't it?

[McMenno]

@Titus You forgot to include Bins in your list.

[McMenno]

ok

im a spoiled townie
i basically show up as yohgurt to cops and VT to role cop
i'm hated
and there's one other aspect i really don't want to claim because it makes me useless if i do. i don't use it during the day tho.

It's from a thread I will not disclose because of an aspect of it she wants to stay hidden, but I can say that I thought it up.

[McMenno]

VOTE: ARS

Lynch this.

[McMenno]

[McMenno]

@ARS You know that roles don't necessarily correspond to alignment?

@Tere I don't really care whether you believe my claim or not.

[McMenno]

I am laying low because I don't want to be offed before I get to use my role, thus getting myself a confirmed town credo.

Please play the game or replace out.

[McMenno]

VOTE: Jeanne

everyone has posted except for Jeanne and BRantz.

[McMenno]

because they're probably brantz, I think that was already established?

[McMenno]

saying you are town is not a good defense.

[McMenno]

shos, are you saying I am 3pscum and Wanderer is groupscum? With whom?

And yeah Brantz needs to at least post or replace out if he can't keep up with the game.

[McMenno]

I think scum is just trying to secure my vote.

If they were to claim right now, they would have no guarantee that I'll vote with them.

If they were to lynch me, and get town to hammer me, however, I would be guaranteed to vote with them, because not doing so would be against my win condition.

[McMenno]

you might as well do it now, seeing as the dead thread will be made public postgame...

[McMenno]

I can win with town.

[McMenno]

maybe there isn't a dayvig at all

maybe it's automatic

to prevent scum from being overpowered

[McMenno]

because everyone has claimed exceot MadCitrus

MadCitrus please claim

[McMenno]

MadCitrus, vote for shos so I can hammer him. I'm willing to take the risk that his ability is not 1shot.

[McMenno]

The thing we need is for MadCitrus to show up... It's basically me, Tere and Wanderer for a shos lynch, and Drixx and shos for a me lynch.

[McMenno]

I don't see how anyone can think I am scum when I am willing to hammer

mcmenno

shos.

[McMenno]

I don't see how anyone can think I am scum when I am willing to hammer

mcmenno

shos

.

[McMenno]

well if you want to lynch me go ahead but it seems like we have two different situations here:

1. you're town and you genuinely believe that

2. you're scum, shos is town, and you're trying to bait him into hammering me so I can be a guaranteed vote for you

I think shos is still likely to be scum so I don't think it's situation 2 but it's a possibility

[McMenno]

well

VOTE: shos

should be the hammer

[McMenno]

okay so this is really weird

1 of you is town

1 of you is scum

1 of you is 3p scum

who to vote?

[McMenno]

MadCitrus please vote for Wanderer

[McMenno]

fuck I'm an idiot for not voting Wanderer

damn

I guess I forgot about this game

sorry y'all