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[farside22]

/confirming best game ever!

[farside22]

VOTE: Abr

Because I can't read the guy to save my life.

[farside22]

VOTE: Mac

[farside22]

nope!

pedit; there is no reason. I just find your accusations a bit off base. this is not me saying bbt is town, that read will come, but I feel like your early stance on him was unjustified.

there is as much of a relationship between me and bbt as there is between you and soren. make what you will of that

Hi Mac,
How are you?
I have a weird question for you. When an rvs wagon start....at what point is it okay to look at those on the wagon and question it in your view?

I don't like Soren's reaction and omgus. Also felt rude.

Are you serious?

[farside22]

that nope was towards shinobi who asked if I've ever caught scum rolefishing

So why even bring it up if you know it doesn't work?

who said it doesn't work?

@farside it comes roughly around the time the wagon dismantles for a more serious one. generally, it's not the people on the rvs wagon but the person being wagoned themselves I look at

Hi sthar!

Fair enough. I notice people that question the wagons like dragon and are town.
Why was it bothering you that he felt bbt was scummy?

also, I'm good farside! how are things with you?

My day...well I was having a nice and quiet day and then I picked up my son from school.
I already have a headache.

If it wasn't so early in the game I would have something good to vote on. As it is there are barely any comment worthy things. dragon looks town, don't like far sides vote... Posting from phone

Why don't you like my vote?

First, I know a lot of people in this game and I like that. Hi Anti, ABR, Shin, Farside, Soren, Sthar, and BooKitty!!!

I hope you're all town but I feel it's unlikely

Hi bbt.
Are you doing that thing that you said look aquward when I did it for a reason?

[farside22]

Mac had been posting good content on day two so the vote just feels like you could have substance with it instead of how it ends up reading to someone reading the thread. It's like someone farting interrupting a violin concerto VOTE: farside

[farside22]

Well I voted Mac because I felt he was making a mountain out of a molehill.
My experience with dragon thus far is he has foot in mouth disease and a few other things I want to say but on going game prevents me from continuing that thought process.

[farside22]

Saints funny.

Not sure about your alignment but I like your attitude.

[farside22]

Soren your question is so weird there.

I need to focus for a moment and it's hard because I feel myself laughing at you weirdo's

[farside22]

Where were you between the hours of 7 and 10 last night ?

[farside22]

If saint is done demonstrating how badly his parents failed at raising him, I'd like to move on with the game. If not, I'd like him force replaced.

I want to say the flail looks like caught for the wrong reasons, but I'm possibly letting my opinion of him color my perception.

Anybody want to explain their town read on dragon?

You want to explain your issue with dragon.

Alright now that cold water has hit this thread it's time to move to a serious vote.

VOTE: Bbt

[farside22]

Yeah boo is town!

I can live happy in this game now.

Boo: can you explain your concern with Soren?
I had one issue with him, which was the question he asked I called weird.

[farside22]

why?

I'm going to guess you've never played with ABR before.

I have. I almost WoTc him.

Just so you know why I have him on ignore for this game.

[farside22]

i trust no one.
does that make me cool and unique?

No.

[farside22]

One is ongoing and the other is that the last 2 games we signed up together we were both scum and I wanted to smack you.

Well more then smack.

[farside22]

Why would you almost WOTC me and then choose not to?

My first thought was man I want to wotc abr, then tsq did it in thread to hiplop and my reaction was, what an asshat, then I felt shame because I was no better

[farside22]

You care more about how you look and who is a threat to you as scum and don't care about the other team members.
Basically you come off as arogant know-it-all that thinks no one else no's how to play the game.
It's irritating and demeaning.
It was the same way in Star Wars mafia.

And for anyone paying attention if abr is scum he keeps his relationship people in the game to play them like a violin.

[farside22]

You shouldn't ask if you cant handle the response.

[farside22]

Anyways moving in and back to putting abr on ignore.

Boo: why is bbt ringing your scum bell?

[farside22]

I don't like the ABR-BBT team-up without any real reasoning or apparent thought on either of their parts. I don't have a particular bias toward BBT scum over ABR scum, but the whole thing looks really hinky to me, especially given ABR's vote on you right after you voted BBT.

I don't know about.
ABR did a reach out and it read like they have a history together.
Bbt bothered me more because a comment he made was something similar I said once to him and he was crazy paranoid about it.
He was town that game. So it reads a bit fake coming from him.

[farside22]

Someone remind me I had asked star a question.
I might forget

[farside22]

The anti hero votes look good so far and I can't argue with it since he has been lurky as scum.
Not sure what to think about hip or shinobi

[farside22]

So who are you scum reading star?

[farside22]

Yeah boo is town!

:S

really?

...

...

Spoiler:

why?

Because I can read boo.

Scary well in fact.

I like the shinobi vote and reasoning.
What's your thoughts on star?

[farside22]

Pgaes 4,5 and 6 are full of shit.

You should all be embarrassed.

Bahahaha

185 - Farside, given you think ABR manipulates people he has a relationship with when he is scum, and he asked if anyone wanted to work with him, it seems like your vote should be on ABR, no?

189 - This is funny from Boo because I'm getting the exact same feelings re: Boo/Farside. I don't understand where the town reads on each other have come from.

191 - Farside, you're misrepping pretty heavily here. Like, really badly.

193 - Why the vote, Vilewhirl?

196 - ABR, you get me lad. You. Get. Me. We can crush this game.

Tell me how I misreprented you.
I'll be happy to link the game I'm referring to about you....
In fact I think I will now

What bbt said in one game we were in:

330 - Farside, you want me to be town this game? Why did you say this?

331 - This vote is weak. This is the best you can do at this point of the game? Really?

336 - Explain town read on Bella please Farside?

340 - Reverend is very likely to be SK, and if not, he is scum. Most of the time, when people are hunting a SK it's because they are one or they're scum concerned with who can kill them.

There is more then that he brought it up at least 3 other times.
What bbt said this game:

First, I know a lot of people in this game and I like that. Hi Anti, ABR, Shin, Farside, Soren, Sthar, and BooKitty!!!

I hope you're all town but I feel it's unlikely

That last line was the exact comment I made to him that he harped on as scummy.

[farside22]

Because I can read boo.

Scary well in fact.

I like the shinobi vote and reasoning.
What's your thoughts on star?

gut town. can sympathize w/ the saint push and it makes sense in context of conversation w/ saint.

I half wondered if he was using what happened as a crutch.
Meh I might be an ass thinking that.

@mac: in regard to post 295. I hadn't really thought about that because saint was acting like it was still rvs.
I think it wouldn't hurt to keep an eye on him since I notice he seems to be buddying me.

[farside22]

Just an FYI last game I was in with hiplop he lurked like a fiend and was replaced and was sc.
Another game he was low active but .....well I don't know if I want to finish what I've seen him do as town just yet.

[farside22]

I like my vote.

[farside22]

For some that supposedly read the thread he seems to miss a lot.

[farside22]

OK, so I had reads.

Now what?

There bs reads that's what

[farside22]

Because I didn't like her interactions with Boo.

Why don't you like it mr. Vague?

[farside22]

Also, her thought process suggests to me she should be voting ABR and not me.

Also also, her reason for scum reading me is weak as fuck. Have you read it?

Go read it.

PEdit - The interaction where they super duper town read each other within 3 posts.

For some that supposedly read the thread he seems to miss a lot.

[farside22]

I'll just point out I made more then 3 post before boo popped in, but if you want links to our games together you can see why I am super cool at reading boo.
Let me know

[farside22]

Yea I read this page first then realized I missed a page

[farside22]

Also I'll point to post 33 and if I need to point out things that was missed let's start with this post:

I don't like the ABR-BBT team-up without any real reasoning or apparent thought on either of their parts. I don't have a particular bias toward BBT scum over ABR scum, but the whole thing looks really hinky to me, especially given ABR's vote on you right after you voted BBT.

I don't know about.
ABR did a reach out and it read like they have a history together.
Bbt bothered me more because a comment he made was something similar I said once to him and he was crazy paranoid about it.
He was town that game. So it reads a bit fake coming from him.

Where I talk about my ABR read that you completely ignored and act for some stupid reason I should be voting him.
Wow yea you mr. Vague are scum

[farside22]

Sorry 333 not 33

[farside22]

Yeah, and I countered that reasoning.

Are you reading Farside or being selective in what you choose to present?

Me and ABR have history. He explained it pretty well.

Not selective reading at all. I read it and laughed at the bs you presented.
I also scoffed at your reasoning that I presented as you pushing smurf reasoning.

Next

[farside22]

For those not paying attention at home I present what post I was referring to that is crap.

Also, her thought process suggests to me she should be voting ABR and not me.

Also also, her reason for scum reading me is weak as fuck. Have you read it?

Go read it.

PEdit - The interaction where they super duper town read each other within 3 posts.

This is me showing that bbt is making shit up for his reasoning.

I'll just point out I made more then 3 post before boo popped in, but if you want links to our games together you can see why I am super cool at reading boo.
Let me know

Also I'll point to post 33 and if I need to point out things that was missed let's start with this post:

I don't like the ABR-BBT team-up without any real reasoning or apparent thought on either of their parts. I don't have a particular bias toward BBT scum over ABR scum, but the whole thing looks really hinky to me, especially given ABR's vote on you right after you voted BBT.

I don't know about.
ABR did a reach out and it read like they have a history together.
Bbt bothered me more because a comment he made was something similar I said once to him and he was crazy paranoid about it.
He was town that game. So it reads a bit fake coming from him.

Where I talk about my ABR read that you completely ignored and act for some stupid reason I should be voting him.
Wow yea you mr. Vague are scum

Any other questions please let me know.

[farside22]

Oh, then why are you pretending that I haven't responded to it?

I mean, we both know your reasoning is bad. You should accept it.

Whatever you say scummy butt

[farside22]

Also, her thought process suggests to me she should be voting ABR and not me.

Also also, her reason for scum reading me is weak as fuck. Have you read it?

Go read it.

PEdit - The interaction where they super duper town read each other within 3 posts

.

You referred to both of us.

But let's call a spade a spade, you were ready to follow ABR put the fucking gate with 2 fucking post so really you should have no issue with my read of boo here.
You have yet to ask me for my links on how super cool my read of her is? Why is that I wonder???

[farside22]

Meta. Fantastic.

Your reasoning for voting me is still weak. Seriously.

Also, when I said 3 posts, I meant 166, 167 and 168.

More then that but nice of you to dodge my ABR counter point stretch of a read you made.

[farside22]

Because I don't give a fuck about meta? Yeah, that could be it.

I referred to both of you, correct. Is that not an interaction between the two of you that I just linked?

No, I wasn't. I was attempting to get a read on ABR.

Or buddying him.

Let's see which one do I believe here.

Hmmm?

Let's see you go for no reads to omgus read to dodging each point and brushing it under, while having a shit case.

Do I win yet?

[farside22]

I would like some resistance to my wagon. Where is it?

Points to vote count.

Vote Count 1.2

BlueBloodedToffee (L-4): farside22, Vilewhirl, Antihero,
Soren (L-5): BlueBloodedToffee, Mac,
Saint (L-5): sthar8, dragonspawn,
Bookitty (L-6): hiplop,
Mac (L-6): Bookitty,
Antihero (L-6): Soren,
hiplop (L-6): Shinobi,
farside22 (L-6): Albert B. Rampage,
Vilewhirl (L-7):
Shinobi (L-7):
sthar8 (L-7):
dragonspawn (L-7):
Albert B. Rampage (L-7):


NO LYNCH (L-7):

Not Voting (1): Saint,

It is now Day 1. With 13 players alive, it is 7 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2015-06-04 16:00:00) on June 4th at 5:00 PM PST.


At the moment, no one is due for a prod. Keep up the good work!

[farside22]

Win? You have to make sense before you win.

You would have to assume that I was scum and ABR was town for me to buddy him...reasons for ABR town read?

I had reads, I lied.

I've addressed each of your points and countered them. Just because you're pretending I haven't done so, that doesn't make it true.

Anyone see bbt actual refute anything I said?
Other then meta and bailing when caught with his pants down that is
let me know.

[farside22]

And when they do?

No one will

[farside22]

Let's see you go for no reads to omgus read to dodging each point and brushing it under, while having a shit case.

Do I win yet?

[quote="In post 349, BlueBloodedToffee@]I lied.

Truth is truth

[farside22]

I can't get into this game at all and I don't know why given there are a load people here I enjoy playing with.

Vilewhirl, you can have whatever you like if I flip scum. It's not happening.

Dragon, Saint and Mac are rubbing me the wrong way though. I guess I could lynch one of them.

*Goes to check VC*.

Can we please lynch the guy with the fake reads.

Dragon: discussion on saint can wait for a day. Look at scum bypassing points here.
Probably scum with saint.

Mac: besides star comment what are your thoughts?

[farside22]

So scum is bbt, hip and shinobi.
Star is my comical 4th option.

[farside22]

Sweet.

People should look at ease and speed of my wagon, followed by shit reasoning to conclude that there is probably more than one scum already voting me.

I have no idea how close I am to being lynched. L-2 or L-1 is my guess.

No excuse for derphammers now I have stated this.

hey guys look, its bbt dodging literally everything that's being addressed at him to posture about his wagon being bad.
and not even specifics either. just someone on his wagon is probably scum and not because of their reasoning its because of the speed of his wagon.

"i have no way to get into this game other than the questions that vile has given me twice and a wagon with which i could analyze the gamestate"
yeah. dont believe you at all. kill this guy.

I could not have said this better

[farside22]

I'd actually consider blacklisting bbt if he's town.

[farside22]

Wow, that seems a bit far.

Where the fuck has that come from Farside?

What have I done that deems me worthy of blacklisting.

I'm telling you I'm town so you better back that comment up right now.

You haven't done anything town at all this game.

Lets see you OMGUS my vote on you.
You sat here and said you had no reads, switched reads when you crap push did nothing for you and continue to whine about the wagon on you building up.

Someone can tell me if I missed something.

[farside22]

OK, so because I'm having a bad game you think that's worthy of blacklisting?

Fuck you.

VOTE: Farside

Epic fail + tantrum




= you

Hi Soren, what are your thoughts on the game?

they shall come in due time

Soren you want to chime in on something in the game or will you be sitting on the sidelines all game long?

[farside22]

You keep complaining about having a bad game or not being into it. If you're playing a bad game, make corrections and start playing better. But the problem is you aren't making efforts to play better. And you not being into this game is disingenuous at best because you keep participating.. heck you have 47 posts in this game. You are barely behind the top posters who are around 51-52. That's hardly not getting into the game. Hilltop isn't really in the game. You are all over it.

Lets go over something besides mr drama king for a moment.

What is your thoughts on shinobi and hiplop?

[farside22]

Vilewhirl: You are a player who pulls at my heartstrings. If I wasn't married and with a kid I would love you.

[farside22]

So are people lynching BBT because his behavior is indicative of scum or because he's being plain anti town?

If the latter, this is a bad lynch. Which I think it is. BBT is too scummy to be scum.

Your still voting antihero. Why?

[farside22]

Vilewhirl, your read is so far off it's not even funny.

Is this Bulge or Gorkington? I have a feeling it's the latter.

This coming from someone who's reads are what again?

[farside22]

There is a place in hell, I read once that it's here on earth.
I'm thinking this, this is what I think of what hell is.

Vote: hiplop

[farside22]

Because

[farside22]

I'm sorry my sarcasm button broke.
I can't really be nice to someone who....well I can't respect when they can't give reads

[farside22]

It has nothing to do with lurking

[farside22]

i feel like im too annoyed with how much of a shit youre being right now to take this game seriously.
thanks for that.

Me?

[farside22]

I got you were being sarcastic.

I was hoping for reasoning for the change in vote.

PEdit - I'm being a shit? When you're pushing a fucking shit case on me what the fuck do you want me to do?

Just something that struck me while everything else was going on.

[farside22]

I'm going to explain what caught my attention here.
Hiplop post here
It doesn't make sense given the circumstances.
Most people don't think of play like that as constant as being intentional. There was no push to figure bbt out and he didn't list bbt as anything but null. It bugs me when someone says that looks intentional without a read on the player. If it's null why no push to figure it out.
The scum group is also players that interacted with each other and all he says is they pinged my radar.
It's pretty vague comnent and easy to run with under the radar.
I am looking a bit in Soren for his call out in bbt and then saying too scummy to be scum. That's a fallacy.
The most Soren has talked about is boo and his relationship.
He's another I consider voting too.

[farside22]

i'm not exactly opposed to the bbt wagon because i think vilewhirl and co are all making sense. but i would argue a soren wagon is much better. i'd probably also wagon saint too.

oh wow, i hate this post

Ooo I missed that one.
Yah add me to the Mac hate

[farside22]

VOTE: Mac

[farside22]

are you scum bbt?

If you think bbt is town, vote Mac

[farside22]

it's pretty funny how no one bats an eyelid until antihero says he hates it. i find it hard to believe the four people voting me so far all failed to miss it first time round.

(also, no one probably batted an eyelid because there's nothing really wrong with it IMO)

Well I tunnel and tend to miss things.

[farside22]

I want farside to be scum because he's being a dick but I fear he's probably town. Please stop being toxic. No one likes it.

What's the reasoning for mac? I thought he was coming off quite Towny, tbh. That one post doesn't seem all that bad to me.

Cant we all just murder soren.

Curious, farside, what about my post was out of place? I was behind so a lot of stuff was behind but how does that facilitate me being scum?

I explained my reasoning already.
How am I being a dick?
Or let me be blunt. How is the hydra not on your list for being a bigger dick?

it's pretty funny how no one bats an eyelid until antihero says he hates it. i find it hard to believe the four people voting me so far all failed to miss it first time round.

(also, no one probably batted an eyelid because there's nothing really wrong with it IMO)

Well I tunnel and tend to miss things.

i remember you saying that.

doesn't explain the other two.

also if you feel like telling me whats wrong with it, that would be good

For me it was vague. The I like x view and could see bbt scum comment.
Sticking with Soren and saying it's better with really moving forward.
Basically it reads as willing to jump on a wagon at anytime and gives you that freedom without saying anything of value

[farside22]

I have no idea what's bad with Mac's post that it deserves a wagon

Why aren't you bothered by hiplop?

[farside22]

And continuing saying nothing of value

[farside22]

are you scum bbt?

If you think bbt is town, vote Mac

dont think bbt is town but I'm not a huge fan of mac either.

what has convinced you that bbt is town?

@farside

Best I can say is my gut.
I know it's a shit response but I remembered another game someone was being idiotic and most of those pushing him was town and he was town. There was one vote cast by scum (which I'd lean in saint for this game) while the other two scum hemmed and hawed about it.
This whole back and forth reminded me of that game.

[farside22]

I thought you switched because of bbt

[farside22]

There is a place in hell, I read once that it's here on earth.
I'm thinking this, this is what I think of what hell is.

[farside22]

are you scum bbt?

If you think bbt is town, vote Mac

dont think bbt is town but I'm not a huge fan of mac either.

what has convinced you that bbt is town?

In this post dragon says something pretty similar to what mac is being wagoned for and is ignored

/logic

Who's scum and why Mac.

[farside22]

sorry that came off as mildly douchey. I have nothing against you farside! lets just have a good game. Sorry for how i acted in previous game, not usually how I am.

Okayyyy

Not sure what I said that was that bad. If you want to talk post game about it let me know.


So who would like to give intent on Mac?

[farside22]

Waiting for an answer from Soren on the town leader thing. I'm wondering why he felt compelled to say something like that when I think it's pretty demonstrably not true.

How do you feel about Mac?

[farside22]

Who are some inactive people who could be scum and need pressure?
Who has slipped?
etc

Vote: Soren

[farside22]

Star and hiplop who else are you scum reading and why?

[farside22]

Who are some inactive people who could be scum and need pressure?
Who has slipped?
etc

Vote: Soren

no

awful

vote saint

I like my vote.

[farside22]

Ds: your play is not always town like. Why is saints play sone thing you attack?

[farside22]

Ds: your play is not always town like. Why is saints play sone thing you attack?

Cause his play is scummy as heck and he admits it is.

My play is the same all the time. It's consistent.

Admitting to scummy play doesn't mean he is scum.

[farside22]

Because you know people would still be voting bbt

[farside22]

Who are some inactive people who could be scum and need pressure?
Who has slipped?
etc

Vote: Soren

what happened to your scum read on mac?

It's a light noise in the background.
I say you've done really nothing but butter up to boo and do next to no scum reads.


I kind of have this weird vibe about dragon that I can't explain.

[farside22]

Farside, you want to throw some questions my way, ms.?

Not at this time.
Just thinking.

I don't think anti is scum here.
Hiplop has been tunneling Soren all game, why is he not a scum read?

[farside22]

Who are some inactive people who could be scum and need pressure?
Who has slipped?
etc

Vote: Soren

what happened to your scum read on mac?

It's a light noise in the background.
I say you've done really nothing but butter up to boo and do next to no scum reads.


I kind of have this weird vibe about dragon that I can't explain.

i scum read anti for lurking earlier in the game

Wow. One whole other read!
(Sarcasm)

i like that sthar8 has a developed read on saint now

That's pretty easy to do.

VOTE: Saint

Saint has a point that Sthar is using his tunnel on him to prevent engaging with other people and providing other reads.

PEdit - You did? Why is that?

Wtf. I want to almost wagon you again.

[farside22]

can i get some explanation as to why people are scum reading me

no one is explaining

Farside, you want to throw some questions my way, ms.?

Not at this time.
Just thinking.

I don't think anti is scum here.
Hiplop has been tunneling Soren all game, why is he not a scum read?

i want a question from you or im going to vote you.

I did ask you a question in there.

[farside22]

Saint, I don't think Anti is scum.

I could see Vile or Sthar being scum.

I actually quite like that reads list.

UNVOTE:

Star, Soren and maybe dragon or hiplop.

scum {saint}
scummy {anti, shinobi}
idgaf {hiplop, BBT, vilewhirl, ABR, farside, mac}
town{dragon, boo, soren}

Explain the soren town read

[farside22]

can i get some explanation as to why people are scum reading me

no one is explaining

Farside, you want to throw some questions my way, ms.?

Not at this time.
Just thinking.

I don't think anti is scum here.
Hiplop has been tunneling Soren all game, why is he not a scum read?

i want a question from you or im going to vote you.

I did ask you a question in there.

oh i didnt think that you had
its actually scummier that you relented and asked me one dont you think?
hiplop buttered my biscuit, yet im trying not to be biased towards him. i did post about him in my gameread post. i said that of the people that have defended me/liked me (you, hiplop, etc) he is the most likely to be scum because i felt like he was trying to scumbuddy me

I didn't have a question when I started typing and then something hit me in that post.

[farside22]

Dragonspawn is scum

Discuss

Star is scum.
Discuss

[farside22]

Dragonspawn is scum

Discuss

Star is scum.
Discuss

I'm really quite obviously not. Vote saint with me.

Nope.

[farside22]

cmooooonnnnnnnn

if you vote saint i'll put pop machines in the cafeteria and recess will be 15min longer

Let's play hypothetical for a moment.
And also forgive me for not remembering this. Who else are you scum reading besides saint and why?

As for hypothetical.
Let's say I follow you and saint flips town.
Could I lynch you then?

[farside22]

Others are lurking. Why is anti scum for it?

[farside22]

Mac: how are you. Can you tell me where you are at with scum reads in this game please.

Boo: I'd like your thought on everyone thus far.

[farside22]

I'll give you a chance.

but you aren't going to be happy with my new vote.

VOTE: shinobi

like you to do something bro.

What happened to your scumread of bbt?

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I feel like I need to reread this game to really be sure of my scum reads and town reads.
I'm going to get through it this week.

[farside22]

Yea I'll get to that to.

Unvote

Just till I get reads sorted

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well good news is I will catch up tonight as this game is my priority

[farside22]

Sorry the little one is having trouble sleeping tonight.
If anyone wants to give me links to a case that would help speed me up

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Rereading for a bit.
I'm reminding how I didn't care for Mac at the start.
Okay dragon is a light town read right at the start.

that nope was towards shinobi who asked if I've ever caught scum rolefishing

So why even bring it up if you know it doesn't work?

it does though

VOTE: saint

Explain why you said this.

Liked boo's 3rd post. Felt like she did expect star.
I'm null on ABR with a slight town lean.
Anti still feels town to me.
I like vile's back and forth with bbt because it was how I felt reading him at the time.

I think saints personality maybe jaring people too much.


Shin is useless so far I'll look to see him, Soren, saint, hiplop and star.

At least I'm narrowing things down at this point.

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I think saints town.

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He just seems toxic and careless to me. Toxic is usually hated by people and scum tend to be nicer in the beginning and buddy up.
Plus no one cares about saint. Everyone has interacted with him. There is no weird or awkward posting.
Just spazzing post that at best is null.

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if you're so certain of your meta on anti, sthar8, that sounds like a really good lynch to me

Didn't read my post. Is grasping for straws. He doesn't really believe in the antihero push, he just wants a wagon that is not him.

What's townie about Hiplop?

This is not good enough when we have obvious scum.

What. The. Fuck. Policy lynches are almost always awful decisions, and this one might be on the upper tier? What has the guy done thats all that bad?

Read my posts please.

Saint was hyperreactive, overemotional, insulting and I did not like it. I don't have any meta context and so far I haven't had time to go diving for any, but I'd have to if I wanted to use these playstyle issues as a reason to vote him. So I'm chalking it up to playstyle because of my own laziness right now.

He's persistently pushing the discussion away from any logical conclusions. His game actions indicate that he wants a low-information easy lynch.

@all- look at how many weird pushes we've had since the saint-case started gaining traction. His partners are desperately hoping for a counterwagon. He needs to be the lynch today.

The bottom of this is how I feel about star.
It's all he has pushed. It's easy and it's the only really point he's pushed all game.

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I'm looking at sthar, hiplop and shin as my top 3.
I hope to get something together tonight

[farside22]

I could lynch Shin.

okay

vote: Shin

just in case I don't have time tonight.

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only two days left.
need to consolidate.
really wish someone with meta experience with soren had engaged me.
especially since it seems like he buggered off [though it seems like a lot of people have been buggering off so..]

Unfortunetly that is boo. I don't have time for meta research today.
or tomorrow

I don't want to lynch you 'badly'. I thought you were a good D1 lynch but Farside had some good points.

So now I'm thinking Shinobi is a good D1 lynch but it's getting close to deadline so I'm not particularly fist pumping at the thought of jumping off one of the bigger wagons to start a new one.

Vile, you interested in a Shinobi lynch?

fist pump!

Vile, you interested in a Shinobi lynch?

im not sure.
from my vast top secret meta experience with shinobi i know he can be quite uncommitted as town.
which makes him hard to read.

Okay but does he only post when called out?

shinobi stop defending yourself and go read and make a case on someone or join a wagon on someone.

I'm questioning people.

Why did you wait to question people? I mean seriously I'm a busy person and all but I just all the sudden point to you and pop, here you are to suddenly question people for daring to point at you as scum.

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It normally takes me a bit of time to get invested/involved in games; even in the newbie game you reference so much, it took me a few days before I actually became supertown.
Even then, I'd say me 'not trying' in Elements is a bit unfair because I pinned 3/4 scum.

The only game I'd concede that I 'didn't try' would

maybe

be the mason game, and even then you knew I was pushing Josh/GM all game.

Just because I don't bring across the same kind of energy I did that one time doesn't mean that I don't care/am not playing.

Who's scum shin?
Don't give me crap right now. Straight forward, no hemming, bitching or complaining.
Who are you scum reading and why?

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If I had to join wagons

right now

I'd probably go for ABR/Saint over anyone else.

That doesn't really tell me anything.

is there any good reason abr isnt best wagon atm?
like.
does anyone actually think hes town?

no.
It's really sadly null. He does this as scum and town.

just remembered that mac is in this game.
he should either do things again or replace out.

I would vote for Mac again.
I keep forgetting about him and I recall scum reading him at the beginning.

farside, talk at me about shinobi vs abr in terms of the whole only responding when pressure is on them thing.
do you think abr is equally scummy for it or not?

All I can tell you with ABR is how I have seen him as town and scum. I can't recall the last game I played with Shin.
ABR has lurked and done nothing as town and scum. I found him more active as scum on occasion but one game he did do more as town.
I only felt he was town based on the early convo we had were he questioned me and my comment towards him. Otherwise he's pretty much useless.

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VOTE: Mac

I'm only doing this because Shin seems to be doing better. Not sold on him but my gut tells me to look elsewhere.

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Farside is giving me scum vibes.

pfft
You don't know me at all.

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Farside is giving me scum vibes.

I was getting this as well.

Something doesn't feel right.

That's a pretty quick turn around from someone who like what I said not too long ago with my thought process.

He just seems toxic and careless to me. Toxic is usually hated by people and scum tend to be nicer in the beginning and buddy up.
Plus no one cares about saint. Everyone has interacted with him. There is no weird or awkward posting.
Just spazzing post that at best is null.

1) Associatives before a flip.
2) His toxic shit came after a 'joke' that he probably thought was endearing. He gets called out on it and suddenly we're all assholes because we don't 'get' him. Then take a look at all the buddying he did after that.
3) toxic is a fine scumtool anyway so your point is just wrong

The bottom of this is how I feel about star.
It's all he has pushed. It's easy and it's the only really point he's pushed all game.

See the thing is, you're pushing me for not changing my opinion when there has been no indication that I'm wrong. The only counterargument has been "saint acts like a bad person, why would he do that as scum." I hate to break it to you, but I don't think Jingle administered a personality test before he assigned the roles.

Yeah I'm getting quotes tonight and telling the little one to leave me along for an hour to get through my issues with your "case"

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I don't want to lynch you 'badly'. I thought you were a good D1 lynch but Farside had some good points.

So now I'm thinking Shinobi is a good D1 lynch but it's getting close to deadline so I'm not particularly fist pumping at the thought of jumping off one of the bigger wagons to start a new one.

Vile, you interested in a Shinobi lynch?

I know plenty of scum players who use/have used V/LA as a means of winning.

I wouldn't put it past anyone.

If you wanna come at me Mac, do it properly.

PEdit - I liked your points for Saint being town. Something you could easily write as scum.

So you only are copying what others say now?
I mean if you felt that way you can't say wow I agree with far.
Well she does feel off now.

Like it's 2 different thoughts that do not corelate in the least.
You have jumped on anything that anyone says about anyone I noted so far.
I say something you agree, Now ABr says something you agree.
I don't recall one original thought you had that came from something you said and help to without changing it at the drop of a hat

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Why don't you explain BBT what is off then?

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Lets see the number of times and this is just a small sample that BBt switched reads to buddy with someone.

UNVOTE:

I'd be surprised if Vile or Farside are scum.

VOTE: Hiplop

Sheeping Farside.

Saint has a point that Sthar is using his tunnel on him to prevent engaging with other people and providing other reads.

PEdit - You did? Why is that?

Saint, I don't think Anti is scum.

I could see Vile or Sthar being scum.

I actually quite like that reads list.

UNVOTE:

I think there is a good chance that Shinobi & Hiplop are both scum (but that's based on associatives so it can wait until after Hiplop flips scum)

Vile, it's mainly Shinobi jumping off the Hiplop wagon.

Like, he left his vote there for a long time and appeared disinterested in the game. Yet, as soon as Hiplop starts gaining a wagon Shinobi appears to be paying enough attention to jump off the wagon. It just didn't feel right; I feel like Shinobi is reading along and is fully aware with what's going on but not letting anybody else know this.

And I'm back on track again.

Vote: BBT

This won't be changing again.

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Oh look scum posting ^

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Oh and I'm so 1 for 1 on this BBT
Let me know how far your scum buddies and you want to push because your association and budding of others is waaaaayyyy just noted by me.

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Tell me how I'm wrong. Spoiler: I'm not.

youre not necessarily wrong.
youre also not analyzing very much else other than saint.
and youre calling his latest posts bad without going into detail.
say whats bad about them.
argue with the people calling them good.
etc.
engaging the gamestate is more important than posturing about how right you are because atm the only point on saint that youve made that ive wanted to sheep you on is him talking at people as though he knows that theyre town.
speaking of which:

bad vote. are you following up on your policy despite the fact saint didn't call anyone else a bad word?

i did kind of think saint might be scum because sthar's point i just mentioned resonated with me.

Tunneler can wait for a moment.
Talk with me about BBT and his buddying of others

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Yeah I'm getting quotes tonight and telling the little one to leave me along for an hour to get through my issues with your "case"

Okay. Sure. And if they're salient, I'll listen. But when your counterargument is 'no, you're wrong,' you're not doing anything to change my mind. And when the next step is 'you're scum for not changing your mind,' you're being mindblowingly stupid. If you're town, you need to get your shit together.

I'm not sure how you typically play, but I can tunnel.
I mean I can tunnel to the point of no return at times. My issue is that when you post it is all around Saint and no mater what he says you have attacked it, there is one post in my head I can get later but I saw the first post and I felt like what you quoted Saint saying I could probably point to 2 other players that said the same thing and you never said boo about them.
That's when I just half listen to you (aka half read things) because it's through either a tunnelled POV (which tends to be pretty irrational) or scum making a case and pretending to miss others saying things (which I do see happen too)

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Oh and I'm so 1 for 1 on this BBT
Let me know how far your scum buddies and you want to push because your association and budding of others is waaaaayyyy just noted by me.

Let's do it.

You eat rope first though.

Nope.
It's you with your no case and OMGUS reaction.

Thanks for playing

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i honestly dont know, farside.

p-edit: i dont memorize your schedule.
dont know why you would expect me to. you could always say "these posts are bad and i will explain later" and then i wont be like "y u no explain" because i forget you work or whatever.

Sorry, I'm not trying to frazzle you here. Just wanting someone else's thoughts about my findings of BBT.

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I'm looking at sthar, hiplop and shin as my top 3.
I hope to get something together tonight

why these 3, farside?

Farside seems to be flailing.

I'd be fine with him soren or ABR dying today. Let's decide fast

How am I flailing hiplop?
Because I made a case and bbt did shit all but copy abr post.

I've also been calling you scum for sometime so why are you even questioning this....again

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She has gone off of those three now.

She has something new and made up.

Hiplop, vote Farside?

How is it made up.
I showed you following me.
Following sthar
Following abr

Wait that's right you haven't disputed that at all

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You're flailing for scum reads.

I'm pushing my scum read in you.

Your copying others

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I'm sorry I can't hear you over the farside is scum for no reason mantra

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I'm sorry I can't hear you over the farside is scum for no reason mantra

I bet you've been dying to drop that quote at some point.

I feel the need to use it many times.

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Hey I like my vote more every time BBT post.

One wagon or another is all it take for BBT to fly with the wind.

How is it not an issue BBT? Did you notice that nothing about Boo read as a town leader

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Okay I'm officially sold and I thought about it more.

Vote: boo

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like, i think boo's coming across as pretty genuine.
bbts push is based on semantics and is ignoring that overfocus on a person can cause frustration and an unwillingness to respond to things, even from town.

i have yet to see a single town thing come out of abrs mouth in his what like 15 posts that hes made while here?
why would anyone object to lynching him?

p-edit: my read on mac is complicated because i disliked the crap he said about me in his last post and im not sure if im disliking him solely on that merit which is making me feel confused about a read on him.
i would definitely vote him over boo though.

i need to actually do things today so i cant respond to the scarecrow accusations that soren is throwing at me atm.
i care more about pushing the game in the right direction while i am here and boo feels like the wrong direction.

I'm not seeing genunie.
I'm not even seeing a case from her about anything that BBT said. It reads as AtE rather then anything else.
Now we have OMGUS next.

lets say shinobi is town too. unfortunately i cant elaborate and its for selfish alt-related reasons.
fun-times.

I don't need to do that. Why would scum readily admit they didn't have an awesome reason to vote me? I would think they would fabricate one. Yeah, I am thinking Shin is town too.

Which leaves me with Farside and wondering if she and BBT were distancing early on or if she's scum by herself. Because her splat onto my wagon doesn't make good sense to me at all.

Yea that's pretty BS from you boo.

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i have yet to see a single town thing come out of abrs mouth in his what like 15 posts that hes made while here?
why would anyone object to lynching him?

My worry is that scum might be PR hunting. That's especially true if Farside is scum (and I'm considering that now) and is trying to elicit claims by jumping on large wagons over and over. I'm way safer to lynch for town because I'm known not to be a PR, so running someone else up who will claim is only going to work if we are pretty sure that person is scum. I don't object to lynching ABR based on his postings, but rather based on possible PR things, if you see what I mean.

@VileWhirl: Yes, I agree -- I was saying I don't have any alt reasons but I have other reasons based on his postings here.

Bookittys response to her wagon is fucking awful

I agree and here is another reason.

She's blantantly lying to throw shit at anyone now.
The most recent post is clearly false. I voted Mac, no one was voting mac. Didn't even touch the Saint wagon with a 10 foot pole, thank you very little, voted BBt when no one was. Like there is so much false statement of jumping on large wagon's being a lie I can't even continue thinking beyond my rage that anyone is buying what she is selling at this point.

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Why did you vote me, Farside?

Did you agree with BBT's case on me? Do you think he's town now?

See, my "AtE" and "BS" (and other acronyms) ONLY matter if I flip town, and you don't think that's going to happen, right?

So what's your worry?

Not worried just calling your post crap so more people vote for you

Lets put this in prospective, the moment BBT called you out you flailed like a little kid that got caught with your hand in the cookie jar and you are trying to blaming Jimmy for what you did rather then have a cool and simple conversation.

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Yeah, Farside rage doesn't look like this. Remember, I've seen it

Well I'm at work. I do have to have some controll.
At least when I'm at home I can type angry and bitchy words and not get caught being on the computer.

[farside22]

Someone needs to write a wiki article about "How to maintain a healthy friendship with friends that you constantly play with in mafia".

*burns book*
*laughs like a maniac*

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Anyways I notice just now instead of showing how I'm wrong and how she is right Boo takes a different approach once again to being called out.

Guess what, Farside? I'm town. And I'm going to continue pointing out the scums as they hop on my wagon.

To me, what you did (naked vote jumping on a wagon started by someone you claimed to think was scum) was far worse than what BBT did (concoct crap reasons for pushing my wagon) and, since I support my own wagon, it's not something you can dodge tomorrow.

Hiplop looks meh; he could be opportunistic scum jumping on, but it's just as likely he doesn't have a clue what's going on in this game.

@Soren: Farside and I are friends regardless of our respective alignments. We play hard but both of us know it's just a game

Nonetheless, I think she's scum here! OMG scummity scum scum.

I'm town calling you out. So you either can think about what is said or you can keep flailing because your scum.

I'm going with the later since you have yet to justify your lie yet

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What lie? You're going to have to clarify -- you mean the thing about wagons? Yeah, you're right, I didn't check back. I knew you were on Mac with me before I ended up having the weekend from hell. I knew you jumped on me from BBT as soon as I got enough votes to make it viable. I'm a bit paranoid (and that's partly why I want to be lynched) because I think that we don't need to out a power role today and that alone makes me a decent lynch.

That said, though, your jump on me makes no kinda sense if you're town. In time, you will see that I was right. (I'm guessing about 24 hours if I remember correctly.) But I'm betting you know I'm right already.

That is not jumping on large wagon's in the least.
IN THE LEAST!

Anyways what caught my attention with the back and forth with you and BBT was when he had the multi quote that showed you with those "scum reads" and just doing really nothing with them. There has been no push to figure players out that are on your scum list. You just plop in here, make blantant comments that anyone could make and then disappear again.
Usually I have seen you do more as town and press on those that you do scum read.
Your not doing that expect with Soren but you know how to focus on more then one player at a time.
This is not our first rodeo together my dear.

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Like I said, I have not been very engaged in this game. I do not mind being lynched here. But I do think you need to look at the post that he was quoting, which actually was a reads list on people in the game. He's picked out quotes (and I refuted them) out of context. You're letting him get away with it even though you were voting him right before.

To me, that makes you worse than him. He's being opportunistic, sure, but you're being just as opportunistic with what you may perceive as less risk.

I'm gone for a bit, but when I come back I would like to see more votes on me. We can't afford a no-lynch and I would like to give my reads again before night falls. (I'm still collecting them, but they'll mean so much more after my flip.)

Why did you wait to refute them?

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And for someone that who knew soren so well that scum read seems like a quick and gone memory.

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farside can we talk about saint

we both wanted to the other night, i assume you got busy and I fell asleep.

<3

Did you read the last post I made to you?

I was going to get post together but I wanted to see if what I said sunk in at all

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By the way I'm refuring to the post found here:

star

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And boo continues to misrepresent me so yea anyone thinking she's town has more to explain

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Just please LOOK at the wagon tomorrow. I'm very serious about this. If you're town, you have a ton to work with and you'll know I'm being truthful, so READ what people are saying and the excuses they are using to push this lynch. I beg of you to do it.

I haven't even mentioned Farside other than to point something out to her, so her "continue" thing is nonsense anyway. That's my top scum pick on my wagon. BBT is right there, but I've seen similar from him (and he's seen similar from me, by the way) and he was town and I was town in that case. So those two top my list. I'm not so sure about Hiplop.

Points to 1236
Whatever you say scummy butt

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You don't seem very engaged in the game either, Farside. What do you think the difference is between your lack of engagement and mine, if you please?

What is the misrep here? It's my opinion; if you're engaged, please say so. You don't seem very engaged to me. If you were, I would think that you would have noticed that I responded to his post as soon as possible after he made it.

What's your read on BBT right now?

Probably 3rd party. It's a bet I have with myself currently.

And yes it's a misrep I've been more engaged then you this entire game.
Don't act like its the same at all.

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What happened to the boo wagon?

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Well I'm sure of my boo scum read so yea I'm just sticking by my guns here.
Just have scum boo help lynch whomever.

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if you actually care about getting boo lynched then you should be doing more than that.
tell me why im wrong on the wagon point.
do you think all of the people voting for boo are town?
if not, why would they bus when it would be so easy not to?

I'll be blunt because well I don't have time to be nice.

I didn't read much since my last post. I'm currently eating a late breakfast/lunch with the hubby.
My last impression before the wagon on dragon happened was both anti and Soren were reading boo as off but neither voted her.
Soren could be a friend thing but anti.....yea I question his lack of vote on her highly.

As for boo she is rational and love able person. Not this AtE crap that isn't giving reads properly. She is lashing out more then scum hunting and that isn't like her as town.
You want samples, let me know.
Many comments she made are blanetly false, and yes she pays attention better then that.

Mmmm food.

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All I read from boo is that because someone made a case they must be scum because it's against her.
I have yet to see anything other then omgus coming from her.

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why does scumBookitty try to convince me that i shouldnt be trying to push abr right now?

why in the world is abr your top townread?
thats insane.
i dont have words.

Her asking people to vote her is not town.
Her doing what she's doing makes people think she is town and will push it to others.
Or ABR is her scum buddy.
Tell me the town motive for falling apart after 2 votes?

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VOTE: mac

FARSIDE, DRAGONSPAWN
TO ARMS

Thoughts on BBT vs Boo?

I'm not seeing any recent posts from Mac that would make you vote for him. Please do some explaining in this anti, there is a lack of it and it's coming off as really scummy. Especially from you.

This is what I'm talking about with anti and would support a wagon on him.

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Oh and ftfr that boo ignored is vote bbt as well here.

Someone asked about the 3rd party comment it was just a theory but yea his behavior this game is nothing like his town games.

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So what do you think about BBT jumping off my wagon like it was on fire and his butt was flammable, Farside?

You were sheeping him, right? I don't recall any case from you.

Yea I made a point about your behavior.

But you can keep pretending I didn't there sweetie

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Your behaviour here is nothing like your town games imo, Farside.

I do commend you for staying the course though.

How so.
Described what noted.
How vague of you.

Hmm.

The resistance to the Dragon wagon compared to the Boo wagon is quite interesting.

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Let's see there is a case on boo and no case I dragon.
Gee I wonder why there is lack of support for dragon.

I'd sell my soul for a bbt lynch at this point

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Here I'll come with a link of boo as town when she was pressured by me note no folding under pressure
Or lack of reasoning or AtE.

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i feel like bookitty IS self preserving by acting so stubborn

im not unvoting

I'm not caught up, but this is the sloppiest, shiitiest scumposting and you should all be embarrassed that it isn't dead yet. Remember a few days ago when self-preservation was totally a town thing that town saint would do omg you guis I promise?

It is more null depending on the circumstance and player.
Why is folding after 2 votes a town tell?

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How so.
Described what noted.
How vague of you.

You suddenly shifted gears and jumped on me after BBT did so, despite apparently scumreading him right along through.

You don't give any real case on me, but you don't go to your old reliable "gutread" that I expect if you are town. Also, you're wrong, and you're pretty much never wrong on me unless you're scum. We both know that.

I don't happen to think I'm engaging in an appeal to emotion, since I am dead serious that I am sick of this particular little dance and I don't intend to play it anymore with you. If you're so certain I'm scum, why are you trying to inch your way off my wagon even though you said you were going to stay the course before? What's your hurry? Stay a while, why dontcha?

Oh no's I have more then one scum read. The horror!!

I'm not moving if you haven't noticed, but if you were town you'd try to get scum lynched.

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Let's see there is a case on boo and no case I dragon.
Gee I wonder why there is lack of support for dragon.

I'd sell my soul for a bbt lynch at this point

Except I posted reasons for dragon at the top of the page.

Here I'll come with a link of boo as town when she was pressured by me note no folding under pressure
Or lack of reasoning or AtE.

Boo's issue isn't lack of reasoning or AtE. She is quite literally asking to be lynched, which is the exact opposite of AtE.

If that's your case, it's weak.

How does that make her town?

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And no asking to be lynched is not the opposit of AtE, because it is an appeal that people think come only from town, which is false

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Because there's literally 0 scum motivation in telling people to lynch her.

How is my case weak?

The wagon disappeared on her once it happened right.

Not everyone fights for there town reads to not be lynchrd.

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There is also 0 fucking town motivation to asking to be lynched

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And no asking to be lynched is not the opposit of AtE, because it is an appeal that people think come only from town, which is false

I have yet to live in a world where AtE consists of "please lynch me."
That's not AtE; that's just telling people to lynch you.
Which is generally a bad thing as scum.

If anything, it falls under martyring, which is towny.

*puts arm around shin*
Son I'm going to tell you some hard facts.
It may hurt to hear this......
People lie. They use what tools they can to manipulate people.
I know.
I know.
It's a hard fact of mafia and playing the game, but that's just a fact you need to come to terms with.
But again that attitude happened after 2 votes, which is little pressure and self loathing talking as her being a victim.
This isn't let's be friends and hold hands.
This is finding scum and understanding motivation.
If you check that link son, you'll see she is no wilting flower.

[farside22]

Oh no's I have more then one scum read. The horror!!

You sheeped your scumread.

Yeah, the horror indeed.

I've done it before and I'd do it again.
That doesn't mean much in a span of anything.

[farside22]

How many games you want links to?

[farside22]

Farside, I'm telling you this as a friend, and you can make of it what you will:

You had me as a strong town read early on. Then you turned on a dime with no actual reasoning and started calling me scum.

You're digging yourself a really huge hole if you're town, Farside. You're acting condescending when you're flat-out wrong, and you're likely to get a good dose of it back.

I'd stop digging. Vote me, that's great, but the snide comments are only going to bite you in the butt. I guarantee it.

@Shinobi: I can provide you with a link in which I got pissed off at being misread as town. BBT was doing the misreading there, and he apparently hasn't learned a thing since then. Just a sec.

Let's see you've misreprented me.
You over reacted and dodged the point bbt made against you.
You've been MIA most of the game
When pushed by 2 votes you get all bent out of shape
And for some reason you think that makes you look town....to me....after the smalltown game?
No seriously.

[farside22]

Like just showing her not doing it as town without showing why she can

only

be scum for doing it is not enough. She might just not enjoy this game or may think her flip is the best way to move things forward.

Yeah I can't do that.
The only time I recall her wanting to lynch herself was survivor because her ability was negative utility but she still scum hunted and had a way about her that was rational.

She keeps asking for a case and she hasn't even made one, again she can do that.
I've made multiple points and all she does is call me scum for it.

[farside22]

Hi.
I'm not scum.
If boo is town I will be very disappointed in her mafia playstyle this game.

[farside22]

Hi.
I'm not scum.

If

boo is town I will be very disappointed in her mafia playstyle this game.

Oh, now there's a possibility I could be town?

How could that ever be?

You jumped on my wagon for no reason and then gave reasons after that made no sense. You made zero allowances for schedule issues at the start of MY summer semester but you expect all kinds of leeway for yourself and your own schedule.

This is on you. I'm not mad, but I think you're scum. And I suspect you know why.

I'm pretty sure your not town.
I'm making a point at how I'd feel if I'm wrong.
I don't see me being wrong though

[farside22]

Why does boo get to keep misreprensting the game and not be lynched at this point is beyond my understanding.

[farside22]

@Farside: What you are doing, imo, is setting up a preemptive excuse when I flip town. "Oh, it was her "Mafia playstyle!" despite the fact you can't show one single example of this being my Mafia playstyle in any game.

When I flip town I expect you to apologise to Shinobi for talking down to him in that condescending way when you were WRONG WRONG WRONG.

I've already showed how this isn't your town playstle.
I've asked multiple times why you act like a victim with 2 votes on you.
You made not a single case at all and if I have to prove I'm town to get you lynchrd I will.

[farside22]

VOTE: mac

FARSIDE, DRAGONSPAWN
TO ARMS

Thoughts on BBT vs Boo?

I'm not seeing any recent posts from Mac that would make you vote for him. Please do some explaining in this anti, there is a lack of it and it's coming off as really scummy. Especially from you.

This is what I'm talking about with anti and would support a wagon on him.

Because even you are trying to find your way off the wagon and might have actually made it if I hadn't called you out on it.

That would be why my wagon is stalling despite my own best efforts.

Oh no's I'm scum hunting!
The horror again!

[farside22]

Soren, are you a doublevoter?

P-edit your wagon actually gained the most recent vote and you are the closest to being lynched, with dragonspawn

it is in no way stalling

i can easily see BBT voting you again

P-editxfarside

she is too lazy to make a solid case

she got called out at scum and is flailing and lying

i am glad you are sticking to your guns on this

I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing it.

[farside22]

You call that scumhunting?

Anti is barely posting. How is that hunting? It's like taking shots at fish in an aquarium.

I'm sorry I can't hear you over your bad case and lack of scum hunting.

[farside22]

Actually lack of case and lack of scum hunting

[farside22]

if you actually care about getting boo lynched then you should be doing more than that.
tell me why im wrong on the wagon point.
do you think all of the people voting for boo are town?
if not, why would they bus when it would be so easy not to?

I'll be blunt because well I don't have time to be nice.

I didn't read much since my last post. I'm currently eating a late breakfast/lunch with the hubby.
My last impression before the wagon on dragon happened was both anti and Soren were reading boo as off but neither voted her.
Soren could be a friend thing but anti.....yea I question his lack of vote on her highly.

As for boo she is rational and love able person. Not this AtE crap that isn't giving reads properly. She is lashing out more then scum hunting and that isn't like her as town.
You want samples, let me know.
Many comments she made are blanetly false, and yes she pays attention better then that.

Mmmm food.

I'm going to quote the important post that boo avoided reading or commenting about

[farside22]

I gave a readslist, Farside. You claim you're more engaged than I am, so where's yours?

(It's not a competition, it's just an exhibition, so please, folks, no wagering.)

Also, Farside, do you think it's telling that your biggest supporter can't even follow the conversation and was like an explosion of AtE himself when he was under pressure?

@Saint: Farside brought him up in the post I quoted. Please read.

All people need to do is you know read the fucking game and see I've fucking interacted more then you.

tell you what.
When you respond to my question I'll respond to your question that is meant to put down another player that has been scum reading more then you and I havent scum read at all this game.

[farside22]

I've said nothing about your schedule here.
Keep misrepresenting me please.
Maybe others will catch on and vote you!

<3

[farside22]

I'm glad your schedule opened up magically to come in and defend yourself today.

[farside22]

I'm glad your schedule opened up magically to come in and defend yourself today.

Please do not say I did not warn you that you're going to look bad, Farside. Because I have more than once, now.

I appeal to anyone in the game who doesn't want a no-lynch to please vote me now. I think it's the best move.

Here's me not believing you.

[farside22]

Here is called engagement and this was at the fucking beginning of the game.

Tell me miss liar how it isn't.

nope!

pedit; there is no reason. I just find your accusations a bit off base. this is not me saying bbt is town, that read will come, but I feel like your early stance on him was unjustified.

there is as much of a relationship between me and bbt as there is between you and soren. make what you will of that

Hi Mac,
How are you?
I have a weird question for you. When an rvs wagon start....at what point is it okay to look at those on the wagon and question it in your view?

I don't like Soren's reaction and omgus. Also felt rude.

Are you serious?

that nope was towards shinobi who asked if I've ever caught scum rolefishing

So why even bring it up if you know it doesn't work?

who said it doesn't work?

@farside it comes roughly around the time the wagon dismantles for a more serious one. generally, it's not the people on the rvs wagon but the person being wagoned themselves I look at

Hi sthar!

Fair enough. I notice people that question the wagons like dragon and are town.
Why was it bothering you that he felt bbt was scummy?

also, I'm good farside! how are things with you?

My day...well I was having a nice and quiet day and then I picked up my son from school.
I already have a headache.

If it wasn't so early in the game I would have something good to vote on. As it is there are barely any comment worthy things. dragon looks town, don't like far sides vote... Posting from phone

Why don't you like my vote?

First, I know a lot of people in this game and I like that. Hi Anti, ABR, Shin, Farside, Soren, Sthar, and BooKitty!!!

I hope you're all town but I feel it's unlikely

Hi bbt.
Are you doing that thing that you said look aquward when I did it for a reason?

If saint is done demonstrating how badly his parents failed at raising him, I'd like to move on with the game. If not, I'd like him force replaced.

I want to say the flail looks like caught for the wrong reasons, but I'm possibly letting my opinion of him color my perception.

Anybody want to explain their town read on dragon?

You want to explain your issue with dragon.

Alright now that cold water has hit this thread it's time to move to a serious vote.

VOTE: Bbt

[farside22]

I'm glad your schedule opened up magically to come in and defend yourself today.

Please do not say I did not warn you that you're going to look bad, Farside. Because I have more than once, now.

I appeal to anyone in the game who doesn't want a no-lynch to please vote me now. I think it's the best move.

By the way this makes no sense if you think I'm scum for you to say.
Why should you care if I look bad if you think I'm scum like you've said.

There is also 0 fucking town motivation to asking to be lynched

I don't think boo's asking to be lynched is town motivated nor scum motivated. She just doesn't want to play the game anymore because she's not enjoying it. However, she does think that her flip will be informative for town, which is town motivated.

She was fine till she was getting scum read.
You do realize that, right?

[farside22]

Soren you want anti lynch just let me know.

[farside22]

I'm here.
Not voting dragon.
I'm sure boo would call that scummy

[farside22]

I'd go for bbt or anti as a second option

[farside22]

im here now.
why dont you like dragon for scum, far?

I don't see why he's scum.
Like nothing at all here.

can someone briefly summarise the last few pages and who we may be compomising on?

Dragon or boo are the top 2 wagon.
Boo went melt down with 2 votes, claimed earily, omgus comments and misreprented the game.
Dragon scum read had to do with wking boo was all I got.

[farside22]

I think anti is scum with boo and bbt reminds me more of someone playing for themselves.

[farside22]

Let's lynch anti right now. Who's down

VOTE: Anti

[farside22]

Alright, I'm here.

Anti is town.

We should be lynching Dragon.

Pfft

[farside22]

Is town!Mac always this apathetic?

Idk mac's meta.

Vote anti though.

[farside22]

You scum with Dragon Farside?

Bawhahaha.

Yea the case you made on dragon was awesome.
Wft is wrong with me.

[farside22]

Yea again the case was so awesome.

[farside22]

Here I'll hammer dragon and if he flips town like I expect people need to lynch bbt or boo.
I want that deal first

[farside22]

Come on vile I'll put my points against boo against your weak case right now

[farside22]

Nope

[farside22]

I be a stubborn bitch right now.

[farside22]

Nope

I think you should.

I be a stubborn bitch right now.

[farside22]

And?
Do you want to make the deal Soren?

[farside22]

Here I'll hammer dragon and if he flips town like I expect people need to lynch bbt or boo.
I want that deal first

What I want^

[farside22]

I still don't understand the case on Boo, ftr.

I'm not repeating myself. Go back and fucking read.

[farside22]

I still don't understand the case on Boo, ftr.

What's yourcase on dragon?

[farside22]

Soren made a deal so some needs to vote dragon

[farside22]

VOTE: Bookitty

If farside won't switch then I will. She wants to be lynched anyway so whatever I guess.

I still don't understand the case on Boo, ftr.

What's yourcase on dragon?

Now you're just being spiteful.

I was being serious because ADD.

[farside22]

I lol'ed