Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)

[lane0168]

If I was scum and farside is truthful, I'd choose the day kill. It can be used later at the end of the game. Doesn't have to be used today. Can win the game for them.

[lane0168]

VOTE: nachomamma8

[lane0168]

sure ok I can town read that too

thanks
i try

What is this? What is the town read? Not following

[lane0168]

1) "Reputed to be the "most powerful" sign of the zodiac, Scorpios lead fate filled lives and have intense and dramatic personal relationships. Even as children Scorpios are often found to be wise beyond their years. Many astrologers call this the sign of the "oldest souls". Old and wise beyond the average, Scorpios often know all the answers, except sometimes; they too often have difficulty finding what they need to develop their own happiness."

All of that^^^

2) played with farside. nacho long time ago. Maybe marquis? Only know farside is abrasive town? That's it

3) I'd do daykill and save for end of game. Or hide for end game.

[lane0168]

@nacho, roger

[lane0168]

@farside, that's what the "?" Was for. I figured you could be nice. Just recalling recent memory and possibly or only game together. Just came back recently.

[lane0168]

@nacho, roger

VOTE: lane
we are absolutely lynching this today

Huh?

[lane0168]

Okay...? Why?

I'd like metal to take a stab at this before farside if that's ok with farside.

[lane0168]

Our ricastle, maybe you could try answering your own question.

[lane0168]

Removed double post. See .

[lane0168]

sure ok I can town read that too

Can you please quote the reasoning in this statement...

What else could have been asked when all I wanted was clarification on what nacho was talking about? He understood what you were saying much more clearly than I did

[lane0168]

I thought you were talking about farsides post (second player post) I didn't understand it. I asked about it. I got clarification. And that was all I wanted.

Essentially, you're saying I'm scum who knew exactly what it all meant, proceeded with my fake scum hunting, felt like nacho completely derailed it with an explanation, and just abandoned it...?

[lane0168]

Our ricastle, maybe you could try answering your own question.

Sorry, you lost me.

I'm just wondering if you can see anything wrong with your post farside quoted and voted you for

[lane0168]

@ricastle, yeah your second paragraph explains what I was thinking but I'm not going to assume that's the reason for their vote.

And it would be stupid. Unless that's exactly why they didn't choose it. Major wifom I know.

@farside, metal voted because of the response I guess. What did you see wrong with his game plan post?

[lane0168]

VOTE: startfromtheheart

I think it's pretty obvious how to start this. We'll do popcorn for dayvigs and see who has one. If nobody does, Far is confscum. If somebody does, it's a scum lynch and Far is conftown. That sound good?

There was some weird rule the last Zodiac where you could post "Daykill: X" in thread and then PM RC privately so it wouldn't count.

Is the rule a secret rule that only the person who gets the daykill knows? Cause I don't see it...

daykill:startfromtheheart

@mod: is there a rule that says you can submit a daykill via thread and repeal it via pm?

[lane0168]

Removed triple post. See

[lane0168]

Removed triple post. See

[lane0168]

@mod, I noticed in zodiac 1 you announced the fortune and the recipient was secret. Here the recipient is known and the fortune is secret. Is that deliberate?

[lane0168]

I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.

The game being broken? The scum had a choice. I've realized as scum, the daykill turns out to be the worst choice. Now use your daykill or die before you get the chance

VOTE: aronis

[lane0168]

@nacho I read in the old dead thread that Sal asked if he could send it via pm, and he couldn't. Maybe that's what you remember?

[lane0168]

I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.

The game being broken? The scum had a choice. I've realized as scum, the daykill turns out to be the worst choice. Now use your daykill or die before you get the chance

VOTE: aronis

Not on me though

[lane0168]

Make sure you're daykilling someone who wasn't already targeted. Kayp, yadunmuckedup

[lane0168]

And it would be stupid. Unless that's exactly why they didn't choose it. Major wifom I know.

No benefit to this.

Except now I'm beginning to see that there's huge benefit to not picking the daykill. Don't you agree? If they picked it, we're trading scum 1 for 1 today.

[lane0168]

Nacho>mainez
lane>start
start>farside
elusive>marquis
kayp>marquis
ricastle>metal
tammy>nacho
mainez>elusive

[lane0168]

I'm assuming they had to pick pregame. And they don't have daytalk.

@farside, did you get your horoscope before the game was opened? I'm assuming so since it was your first post.

We can't draw any significant conclusions if no one dies. But it's worth having everyone at least try to daykill if we're trading 1 for 1.

@mod, when did scum pick their fortunate? Were they forced to pick it pregame? There's a couple other clarification questions I've posed. Let me know please if you saw them or if you can't answer them

[lane0168]

okay um

as a dayvig expert im 99% sure this plan wont work the way its intended (what is the way it's intended? to remove the daykill from scum's hands first? so we can play without fear?)

but whatever

daykill: lane0168

I figured it would be a way to out scum of there was a daykill. Starting to look like theres not.

Tammy. Daykill someone. Are you not reading? Someone that hasn't been picked yet

[lane0168]

I did. You even have me as targeting macho in your list.

Ha. Sorry. Foot, securely inserted in mouth

[lane0168]

What's the difference between vanilla townie and townie?

[lane0168]

Welp back to scumhunting.

Farside you didn't have to do the daykill. You for sure didn't have it.

Maybe farside lied, which I will 90% dismiss.

More likely scum is much smarter than I am cause I was thinking daykill would be the obvious choice at first to use at endgame.

[lane0168]

Ok, now I get what Ricastle meant by "popcorn" the daykill...although being clear usually helps:

daykill: Marquis

It makes sense although I would say it would probably be best for town to choose a specific player (the scummiest or lurkiest bastard) and have players target one players and then wait to see if anything happens, then the next player target that scummy lil monkey, etc.

Yes?

I'm not sure why Ricastle is being read as scummy tho so explanamations.

Farside, I actually am a Leo although some cusp thing is in Libra. I get along with Leo women and Libra guys\girls (for the most part there's always that one person who was switched at birth)

Is marquis your top scumread?

Waiting for the mod will take ages, as I believe they're barely ever on. It'd be much quicker to just target different players.

Daykill: Metal Sonic

Yeah, I see what you mean although we'll still have to wait on the Mod. I just hate the risk of killing a town player obviously.

do not like the last line of this. I think the obviously at the end is kinda screwy

VOTE: Aronis

Daykill me, bro

This shows a completely different mindset that I was thinking in at the time. I thought aronis not going along with her daykill might mean they had one. Therefore I told aronis not to daykill me. This post looks like elusive had no fear of being daykilled by the person they just voted for not using their 'daykill'. Before we all knew there wasn't a daykill. Makes me think elusive picked something other than the daykill

Why is Nacho making up rules that doesn't exist? :O

What rules is he making up?

VOTE: elusive

[lane0168]

The more I think about ricastle's farside confscum comment the more it sketches me out. Possible it was completely genuine. But also possible he thought daykill was obvious choice in pregame as scum, his scum partner explained it better and chose something different, but still figured he could get farside mislynched using the logic.

I'm still on the side that he was genuine, but it's definitely an ongoing debate in my head. I guess the rest of his play will tell

[lane0168]

Oh, really? Hm. If that was the case here, though, then I don't know why on earth scum would choose anything other than Dayvig. Strange indeed...

Because a 1 for 1 trade is not a good trade off for scum.

What's the difference between blue townie and green vanilla townie though?

[lane0168]

They can use those in townies that roll a fortunate. They can be used any day. Use them later? I was under the impression it's 2 scum and 10 townies like the last game. But I guess that's not a guarantee

[lane0168]

I can't tell if you got it right lol. But its pretty much over now. We're moving on to normal scumhunting

[lane0168]

Each day one random person gets a random fortunate horoscope/action and one random person gets a random unfortunate horoscope/action.

[lane0168]

Z

odiac

M

afia

II

The Sun rises. The Sun sets. The Moon appears. The Moon disappears. We interact, discuss and love all the same. What is free will? What is fate? What do we ask ourselves when we wake up in the morning?

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Player List

• Aronis
  lane0168
  Marquis
  Tammy
  elusive
  Ricastle
  farside22
  Mainez
  KayP
  Nachomamma8
  Metal Sonic
  startfromtheheart

Dead Players

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@elusive... not a big fan of scum reads or answering questions or acknowledging pressure? That's cool.

Farside has this way too easy right now. I'm sorry far. I'm with you. But what if you lied?

[lane0168]

Ummm that's not what I tried to quote

[lane0168]

@elusive... not a big fan of scum reads or answering questions or acknowledging pressure? That's cool.

Farside has this way too easy right now. I'm sorry far. I'm with you. But what if you lied?

[lane0168]

@mod I swear I'm not trying to fuck this tag thing up. I'm sorry

[lane0168]

@elusive... not a big fan of scum reads or answering questions or acknowledging pressure? That's cool.

Farside has this way too easy right now. I'm sorry far. I'm with you. But what if you lied?

lane, try reading my posts before open if your mouth and coming off like a moron. I answered both your question.

I'm town and don't really care for people who interact Wo reading or content.

Lol wow that was aggressive.

Call me a moron but that's the extent of elusives answer to my question about marquis. I asked him because he vote marquis and then said we should all target the scummiest player. Was just asking if he still thought marquis was scummiest. He never addressed me cause he's scared.

@elusive, in case I really am a moron, can you show me where you answered about marquis?

And are you still not a fan of scumreads? Cause so far I've got that tammy pinged you as off, and you're scare of farside brevet l because she's calm, which seriously, what the hell would she blow up about? Pretty sure she will when provoked. Sleepy bear deal haha

[lane0168]

And please start your response with @lane or a variation of that so I know you're answering

[lane0168]

Wait. Hold up on that I'll try again. I really hate when people don't read the shit that's actually there. Brb

[lane0168]

Ok. Yeah, no I don't see the answer to marquis.

So please start your answer with my name so I read it, in case I really did miss it

[lane0168]

@elusive... not a big fan of scum reads or answering questions or acknowledging pressure? That's cool.

Farside has this way too easy right now. I'm sorry far. I'm with you. But what if you lied?

lane, try reading my posts before open if your mouth and coming off like a moron. I answered both your question.

I'm town and don't really care for people who interact Wo reading or content.

Ok so did you answer both my questions? Or did you answer 1 and find the other irrelevant. I was only asking if you wanted to daykill scum players and daykilled marquis if he was your biggest scum read. Which you couldn't and didn't answer.

The other squirrels? I'm alone in the push backed by a vote from farside. Don't know if that's still where she wants her vote or not, but either way, who are the other squirrels?

I don't know why more people aren't voting elusive btw.

[lane0168]

Re: stupid questions.

You asked about Nacho and you asked about my thoughts re the daykill plan which I already quoted\discussed\have not interest in rehashing because I think there isn't anything there to actually question and rather you're wasting time trying to look busy when in actuality you're grasping at straws.

Once I have an unfavorable opinion of someone and they continue to twist my words my responses become...let's call it abrasive.

People, other then scum or derp town, don't vote me in general.

Here is a little primer on mafia since you seem to be lacking the basics and maybe need a spin in the Newbie queue:
1. Each player is different and if you find something different about them, go on their Wiki or look through their topics and run some meta data
2. Before asking repetitive questions or ones that are answered, ask yourself, "Does this make sense? Should I ISO the player and see if the response is already answered since its only day one and I have only 9 pages to wade through? Am I going to come off as a tryhard scumtard doofus when I attempt to tunnel a player for something while ignoring more obvious people who have done less?"

This is scum or quite possibly the worst town play of all time.

A) I didn't ask about your thoughts on the daykill plan, I asked you if marquis was your boat scumread. A question that is seemingly too difficult to answer.

B) twist your words. Please elusive, quote me one time where I twist your words.

C) do you think farside is scum or derptown?

D) I'm not trying to look busy. I am busy

E) are you really going to try that hard to make me look like I'm a terrible player? You're just trying to call me shit whIle being completely shit.

Elusive is so scum it hurts... or so terrible town it almost makes me want to binge eat

[lane0168]

Quote your answer to the marquis question or apologize.

Lol @ more obvious people. If they are more obvious why don't you have your scum reads out on them... is aronis the obvious one to you?

[lane0168]

VOTE: tammy

Huh?

[lane0168]

Tammy,

SO why are you acting like someone with something to hide? Two can play at being uncooperative. The logical thing as town to do is to try to help players with reading you and your reaction was not your usual reaction as town. Instead you're trying to engage in theatrics. Surprising.

As for town in this game, once you've looked at the first two games I've linked, and come to some thesis then ask me for more to follow up. Once I start digging, I go far.

Oh and here is one scum game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=54228

The hypocrisy is real with this one. I think its funny elusive linked 2 games where tammy didn't do setup spec and tried to condemn her for that.

For the people that didn't bother with looking at the links, one was a newbie, one was a mini normal. That's downright ridiculous elusive. How bad can you get?

[lane0168]

I'm sorry did you point to a game where she was different? No? Then stop being lame.

No I didn't but you're straight up scum, and lying about tammys game. You are either scum or literally the worst town I've ever seen

[lane0168]

I can not believe elusive isn't lynched yet

[lane0168]

It's your case. You fucking do it. You made a case that she doesn't setup spec as town and your proof was a newbie game and a mini normal. How the Fuck is that "actually playing the game"? That's so bad it's a little unbelievable.

[lane0168]

My read on Tammy was a based on a cold read of her posts so far which was then followed up with meta data and then her reactions\behavior to being suspected. It's on her or her defenders to actually disprove data through evidence. Town usually tries to be helpful, especially since she reads me as innocent or leaning that way. Why wouldn't you work with your town or lean town reads?

Yeah, no.

Lol you're hilarious. It's on us to proof her innocence? Maybe you haven't played before but you have to get people to vote someone to get them lynched. ITs up to you to prove she's scum.

[lane0168]

@kayp. No thoughts on me or elusive?

[lane0168]

Ric, I'm not going to have a meltdown and

I'm town as heck

. Also trying to provoke players into meltdowns while seemingly fun also encourages them to keep doing it rather then channeling emotions in more positive fluff GIF and music based ways.

No more meltdowns for me. I can't stop being sassy but am trying to keep on the right side of that line as well.

Which can be difficult.

[lane0168]

elusive is one of the towniest people in the game

How can you say this? That's not even remotely true. As far as I'm concerned

[lane0168]

What the hell is groot? And what's with people talking about other games like it's social hour. People will die you know...

[lane0168]

Nacho, metal, marquis, what is this town read on elusive
Help me

[lane0168]

Things that elusive failed to mention.
There was more then one scum faction in the game she is referring to.
Second i don't recall ever saying she or he in the game when reffwring to Elusive, yes my memory/ADD is very real

Are their 2 games you were sk and she was scum? Because the one I found she was wolf and she died day 2. Far from the claim you were in end together. Another lie on her part. Funny the people voting her are the only ones that don't have reasons for their votes

[lane0168]

My bad. Enomis died day 2. I was skimming games looking for it. I apologize for calling elusive a liar on that one

[lane0168]

So elusive doesn't seem to be this bad with cases in her town games. She actually is pretty good at scumhunting (meaning her cases are legit, not necessarily correct) and doesn't seem so agitated as town. As far as I can see she's not playing her town game at all. Besides posting links. She seems to always do that, but they usually make sense.

Not like linking a newbie and normal game and questioning why tammy didn't setup spec in those

[lane0168]

Ugh... I'm lost. VOTE: nachomamma

[lane0168]

So elusive doesn't seem to be this bad with cases in her town games. She actually is pretty good at scumhunting (meaning her cases are legit, not necessarily correct) and doesn't seem so agitated as town. As far as I can see she's not playing her town game at all. Besides posting links. She seems to always do that, but they usually make sense.

Not like linking a newbie and normal game and questioning why tammy didn't setup spec in those

You just did a meta read that was as bad at elusive's meta read for almost entirely the same reasons.

Good thing it wasn't the basis for my vote eh?

[lane0168]

I'm glad you can see that elusive's meta read is terrible. How does that, or anything else shes done make her the towniest person in few game?

[lane0168]

There must be something that rhymes with orange

[lane0168]

I'm glad you can see that elusive's meta read is terrible. How does that, or anything else shes done make her the towniest person in few game?

Convictions, reactions, etc.

Makes her the towniest in the game? That's crazy cause I was thinking convictions to shit cases weren't very townie. Scum trying to push through a crap case more likely. But your explanation could not have possibly been any better

[lane0168]

It's kind of odd I'd say. Do you not believe in your case anymore?

[lane0168]

Hi Tammy!

What the hell are you doing? Why are you playing like this?

[lane0168]

VOTE: ricastle

The more I read the less Im convinced of elusive.

I don't like how much nacho isn't doing, and the things he had done seem to just stir confusion... things nacho has said, after already playing this exact type of game
(Paraphrase)
-Daykill is probably private. There was a daykill which was very public on the last game and he talked about it.
-you can publicly daykill but privately take it back... why would he say something so crazy if it wasn't close to true?
-scum didn't have pregame talk.... it's my understanding that scum almost always have twilight talk
-scum might not even have picked yet... idk why he's sowing confusion here.
-scum have day talk... don't you think we'd know if scum had day talk? Or wouldn't we? Serious here, is it possible they'd have day talk and we would never know?

I really don't like his apparent aloofness about what's going on in this game... I think it's possible scum. When i look at his posts as scum he's scummy as hell. When I look at him as town he's null...

Not to mention he hasn't really said anything or taken a stance anywhere I don't think except elusive is the towniest person here

[lane0168]

I always love lynches

[lane0168]

Where's ika when you need them?

[lane0168]

Caught up on what? It's been 1 day 11 hours since mainez posted. Which is the longest. And that was 1 page ago. Theres not much to catch up on is there?

[lane0168]

I mean I think you unvoting is pretty townie of you but I just don't see what else there is. This game has declined to a snails pace ya know?

Unless you want to analyze the wagon?

[lane0168]

Where did me being the scum come from ricastle? State your reasons to help in the afterlife

[lane0168]

So at least 2 people knew for sure the daykill thing wouldn't work. Rics attempt at the easy farside thing is the scummiest. After that I think metal and nachos reactions to it are the second scummiest. Both tried to lead us to believe they could pm it to the mod and their reactions seem the weirdest in general imo.

Aside from that I think nacho and ricastle's play is the scummiest.

There was something I didn't like by start. Actually it might have been their reaction to the daykill plan too. Brb

[lane0168]

Does scum even have to announce a daykill in thread for it to go through? Anyways, might as well have everyone post a daykill on a different player

daykill: farside

Yeah it was this might as well post. Didn't like

[lane0168]

VOTE: Aronis

Daykill me, bro

This shows a completely different mindset that I was thinking in at the time. I thought aronis not going along with her daykill might mean they had one. Therefore I told aronis not to daykill me. This post looks like elusive had no fear of being daykilled by the person they just voted for not using their 'daykill'. Before we all knew there wasn't a daykill. Makes me think elusive picked something other than the daykill

I'm starting to lean further to the town side for elusive. Keep getting hung up on that though

[lane0168]

VOTE: ricastle

The more I read the less Im convinced of elusive.

I don't like how much nacho isn't doing, and the things he had done seem to just stir confusion... things nacho has said, after already playing this exact type of game
(Paraphrase)
-Daykill is probably private. There was a daykill which was very public on the last game and he talked about it.
-you can publicly daykill but privately take it back... why would he say something so crazy if it wasn't close to true?
-scum didn't have pregame talk.... it's my understanding that scum almost always have twilight talk
-scum might not even have picked yet... idk why he's sowing confusion here.
-scum have day talk... don't you think we'd know if scum had day talk? Or wouldn't we? Serious here, is it possible they'd have day talk and we would never know?

I really don't like his apparent aloofness about what's going on in this game... I think it's possible scum. When i look at his posts as scum he's scummy as hell. When I look at him as town he's null...

Not to mention he hasn't really said anything or taken a stance anywhere I don't think except elusive is the towniest person here

why are you voting for ric when this post has you suspecting elusive and nacho?

Why are you quoting one single post and not reading the rest of my posts?

[lane0168]

Also, if I wasnt clear, that post has me suspecting nacho, and less sure of elusive being scum

[lane0168]

Yes, because your reasons for suspecting me as scum were so great. OMG, like totally..nope.

You not only managed to misread my meta but also to misconstrue it.

massive, nacho, etc...post?

Who are you talking to and what's you point?

[lane0168]

Sorry guys. Just got prodded. Will try to contribute on the last 6 pages or so I missed.

[lane0168]

I mean, really, it's pretty obvious, reading you over.

Excellent case.

I skimmed most of the books written in tammy and elusive but the mainez nacho talk seemed pretty townie from both ends to me.

@nacho, I don't know what scum motivation there is for all you're confusion and not bothering to do a little research before throwing out random things. But it makes me more skeptical than assured of your alignment.

@ric, my post content was high in the beginning but sometimes life happens ya know?

I'd say with full honesty that the fact i haven't been lynched or had any hard pressure thus far is a pretty good tell I'm town. I believe marquis said it very early I out myself as obvscum pretty early. I think I've replaced oUT of most of my scum games cause that shit stresses me the Fuck out.

Can we please just lynch ric for that amazing case on mainez?

[lane0168]

Btw ric. Life is still happening here. I just wanted to make sure I got my "important" thoughts out before deadline.

[lane0168]

VOTE: nacho

[lane0168]

Lol I highly doubt marquis will flip scum. At least I have night to get my shit together. Wish the flip would be better though

[lane0168]

I wish I knew what happened to the ric wagon.

[lane0168]

Wtf? Why did you 2 unvote?

[lane0168]

I'm not. In was town reading marquis for his very early game. I've barely had time to read Constantine thoroughly but what I've seen doesn't change my mind. You went from not caring about who we lynch and conStanton is the best lynch to no voting. That's messed up

[lane0168]

If I saw a bird. Had previous knowledge that birds flew. And this bird up and flew, what the hell kind of reaction would you expect. I already said I highly doubt he flips scum

[lane0168]

It was strategic for Nacho. If I die and flip town, then nothing will save nacho from being lynched tommorow, so unvoting now is a good way for him to shake the heat and maybe earn some town points.

If I were scum, you would be a very very very easy mislynch.

So you're town that was pushing the super mislynch up until hours before deadline and now unvoting. That's scummy as Fuck. Wouldn't town try to push for a scum read? Wouldnt that be the smart play?

You are scum, you pushed an easy mislynch, and now you're claiming you're town because if you were scum you would've pushed the mislynch? That's exactly what you were doing begging for a hammer!

[lane0168]

You weren't expecting him to be lynched. L-2 and you knew 2 people willing to vote for him. Give me a break

[lane0168]

VOTE: Nachomamma8

The end of that day was awful.

[lane0168]

Why would nacho ask town to vote him at the last moment?

Becaue there were only a couple of minutes left in the day and there was no chance of him getting enough votes to be lynched at that point? Also, there is clear scum motivation in kicking up a distraction and dividing the votes to push us to NL. I don't know what other motivation there could possibly be for fucking around at that stage.

There were 10 minutes left in the day when I self-voted. There were enough people in thread to get me lynched. Saying "oh there wasn't any way Nacho could get lynched" when I was the person who made myself viable.

Lol made yourself viable? You voted yourself for a total of 2 minutes.

Stop trying to give yourself credit where credit is not due. You weren't even close to being a martyr

[lane0168]

Did you back down, or did the wagon just not pick up enough votes in time?

Ricastle is arguing that I backed down.
And my self vote was to split votes on me and Mainez.

This also us not the case. Your vote gave you 5 while mainez was at something like 2. That close to a lynch why are you trying to split votes anyways? You're vote for mainez was to split votes. I'm not saying you shouldve voted yourself but to make it seem like you were going for any sort of lynch at the end of the day is preposterous. You said it yourself, flip is better than no flip, yet you did your best to prevent a flip.

[lane0168]

And btw I think most of what Ricastle is laying down males complete sense right now

[lane0168]

Look I can see why Nacho pulling back from Maine if they are scum together actually makes sense, even if Nacho dismisses it (Although I haven't looked at exactly where he pulled back his vote - he did pull his vote back though at a dubious time a few hours (or maybe an hour) from deadline, that's for sure).

And btw I think most of what Ricastle is laying down males complete sense right now

including this too? ----

VOTE: Nachomamma8

The end of that day was awful.

Meh

VOTE: Nacho

If Nacho flips town we are going there^ immediately tomorrow

I'm not sure where this came from, and I said most of what he's saying. As in the stuff that's explained and has explanation. Hard to agree on something about myself like that wouldn't you think?

[lane0168]

Lol, I hate playing with dumbasses. As I said, I am 100% vanilla town. My lynch wont be informative at all, and I'm an easy target late game anyways, so you might as well absolve your worries and lynch nachomama8

What do people think of this? I see a possible scum slip.
he says I am 100% vanilla town... anyone that got a town pm, or people that were here from the beginning and noticed the sample role pm knows that the role pm strictly said townie. But I guess someone else did it too? Was that ricastle that said it's am all vanilla game or something?

[lane0168]

So that was just something I noticed. Reading on I don't think it was anything

[lane0168]

No I'm not 100% vanilla town dipshit. I'm townie. Your votes are a joke. And you thinking I'm sheeping ric is even worse. How could I be seeping ric day 2 when I wanted nacho lynched day 1 already and still do? I don't like those vote

[lane0168]

Sorry. You're not a dipshit

[lane0168]

But what was the scummy things I did massive?

[lane0168]

And metal?

[lane0168]

It was strategic for Nacho. If I die and flip town, then nothing will save nacho from being lynched tommorow, so unvoting now is a good way for him to shake the heat and maybe earn some town points.

If I were scum, you would be a very very very easy mislynch.

So you're town that was pushing the super mislynch up until hours before deadline and now unvoting. That's scummy as Fuck. Wouldn't town try to push for a scum read? Wouldnt that be the smart play?

You are scum, you pushed an easy mislynch, and now you're claiming you're town because if you were scum you would've pushed the mislynch? That's exactly what you were doing begging for a hammer!

Is this a hard scum read? Using words like scummy as Fuck, and you are scum?

I the same post you say I had a partial townread, i also said i was more skeptical than not. Maybe it was a partial townread for something he did but probably 30% town, 70% scum. So yeah, partial town read if you want to go that way. Continued votes for Nacho day 1 and my rvs was for his entrance. Not technically rvs. And now since I can sheep ricastle you think I all of a sudden have a hard scum read on Nacho?

You're wrong. And bad

[lane0168]

I have Nacho as lean-town. I actually liked his urgency end-of-day yesterday and thought he read as genuinely wanting to get a lynch done, even if it meant it was him. It doesn't hurt that the cases against him today are kinda ridiculous, either.

I have no idea how to read MS. I think from now, every time he posts some blanket statement without even some small reason, I'll just quote it with "BUT WHYYYYY?" like a three year old.

Hahaha what a joke! How sense of urgency to get a lynch? Are you sure you read the end of day AT ALL?! He could give a fuck about a lynch.

[lane0168]

Obviously nacho fooled you. You think he really tried to sacrifice himself don't you. Why did he unvote when there was a chance to lynch? Cause of one ate post? Give be a break. He votes himself then unvotes 2 MINUTES LATER not even giving that a chance to transpire but making it look like he's willing to give himself for a lynch. God you're blind or his partner

[lane0168]

Then how can you say I didn't have a hard scum read til I could sheep ricastle?

[lane0168]

And why in the blue fuck would I sheep ricastle on Nacho, if I'm scum??? Think clearly, if Nacho is town, Ricastle wants to go for me. So that would make me back off nacho.

Agree or disagree and why?

[lane0168]

Lol "reasonable case on mainez" must be why there are 0 votes on him thus far day 2? As far as I can tell

[lane0168]

And yeah, btw. Where are all the people that were voting mainez? The leading wagon to end day 1 in a no lynch has no one voting for it. Couldn't possibly be scum there eh?

[lane0168]

So why is it ricastle who I am choosing to sheep?

And am I haRd scum reading nacho in my last posts of day 1 or not. Looks and feels like I was to me

[lane0168]

What a great start to the day! You guys are great. It's always best to wake up smiling

[lane0168]

God the suspense is killing me! Where's the mod! I need to know! I love flips so much haha

[lane0168]

I'm going to go through my months allotment of data refreshing toys page lol

[lane0168]

*this

[lane0168]

Huh...

[lane0168]

I guess I don't understand why Nacho would town read so hard me if my case was all wrong... not a question I'm asking you to answer nacho. Maybe you can answer after the game

[lane0168]

I was so sure though. I'm not very good at this. It has been orientation time and again

[lane0168]

Proven

[lane0168]

No. That I'm not very good at finding scum

[lane0168]

God I hope you guys have some shut up your sleeves cause I'm stumped... like I have no idea where to go with this. Once again. God dammit shit mother fuck

[lane0168]

Where's the flip though??? I don't think nacho is lying because why would they post anything, but a boy can dream right?

[lane0168]

I also want to know Mainzez D1 good fortune, since he is on almost everybody's radar right now.

Yeah this is basically trying to out a power role. Wtf?

[lane0168]

All game huh? Mind showing me his first post about it? I think I found it. Day 2. Post 1000 something. Before it was annoying. Now it's really annoying.

For you to say hes been saying it all game is a ridiculous statement meant to make it look like I'm just trying to find something. Oh wait. I bet I'm going to sheep mainez day 3 like I sheeped ricastle day 2 huh?

[lane0168]

All game huh? Mind showing me his first post about it? I think I found it. Day 2. Post 1000 something. Before it was annoying. Now it's really annoying.

For you to say hes been saying it all game is a ridiculous statement meant to make it look like I'm just trying to find something. Oh wait. I bet I'm going to sheep mainez day 3 like I sheeped ricastle day 2 huh?

Immediately upon day start. He wasn't here for D1 (replaced in at deadline) or I'm sure he would have done it all day D1 too. Was it relevant that he replaced in and so couldn't actually start until post 1000? Probably. Did that get a mention from you? Nope. Instead you presented it as though he had been here for a thousand posts before asking.

VOTE: Lane

Haha what? 59 of his 97 posts came from day 1. That's over half. His first post was ~750. I'm not presenting it AS anything. I'm stating facts. You said he talked about it all game. That's a lie. So what have I done that's scummy? Why are you voting me?

[lane0168]

I'm already guessing that it is a daykill or roleblock.

Not a daykill. We tried to out scum daykill day 1 and Mainez would've had to use his

[lane0168]

I'm already guessing that it is a daykill or roleblock.

Not a daykill. We tried to out scum daykill day 1 and Mainez would've had to use his

And that foolproof plan is mod-guaranteed to work, right?

What? Is the a reason why it wouldn't have worked?

[lane0168]

It literally blows my mind that you think for those reasons I deserve your vote most and am scummiest in the game

[lane0168]

What a fucking douche

[lane0168]

No. No it doesn't. It sums up your playstyle. My playstyle might suck and I might be a terrible scum hunter. That's fine. But I'm certainly not a prick

[lane0168]

VOTE: startfromtheheart

[lane0168]

Just a few thoughts. I'm pretty sure kayp was town, otherwise I'd hammer massive because his case and play is pretty bad. Slightly better than mine possibly. Still I really don't think kayp was scum.

Everyone seems to have settled into some sort of weird comfort zone including scum which is not good at all. Honestly I don't know where to go from here.

My vote is on start. I'm keep it there until I figure out what the hell to pursue harder. He's been my biggest gut read most of the game, stemming from his daykill reactions. Idk what else

[lane0168]

Jk. I think elusive and metal sonic are scum buddies. I can't remember why I decided to do it but I just iso'd them together and I just get this overwhelming feeling they are partners.

Before you call me crazy. Do it yourselves. Then call me crazy.

VOTE: metal sonic

Yes, that is the entirety of my case. No, I don't expect it to be fruitful especially if no one reads them together. But that's the best I have right now.

Excuse me while I mentally prepare myself for elusive's wrath. Adieu

[lane0168]

What the heck metal? You vote start, he says vote ricastle, and you listen? How does that make sense?

[lane0168]

Especially after there was another vote on the start wagon. Why change cause your voted says so? Or what changed?

[lane0168]

Ricastle is going to flip town and Sonic/Mainez/Lane/Constantine are the ones to blame.

How are we to blame for what Ricastle flips? Or how will I be to blame for this at all?

[lane0168]

I'm confused how my name got thrown in the mix. I don't like it

[lane0168]

Besides massives suspicion with reason, is it just an extra name to throw in the pile?

[lane0168]

I don't think mainez is scum

[lane0168]

FLIPPP!!!!!