Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)

[Nachomamma8]

It was strategic for Nacho. If I die and flip town, then nothing will save nacho from being lynched tommorow, so unvoting now is a good way for him to shake the heat and maybe earn some town points.

If I were scum, you would be a very very very easy mislynch.

[Ricastle]

Nacho's unvote contradicts his previous stance on just getting a lynch done and is purely survivalist. Tammy, please vote him.

[Nachomamma8]

Would I mislynch you today? Maybe not. But I sure as hell wouldn't have to stick my neck out for you or worry about following you to your death.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho's unvote contradicts his previous stance on just getting a lynch done and is purely survivalist. Tammy, please vote him.

Survivalist? Are you even reading what you're writing?

[St Constantine the Hermit]

@Nacho My point exactly. You drove harder than anyone else to lynch me, and now by your own admittance I am a very very very easy mislynch.

@Tammy - I luv u so much

[Nachomamma8]

@Nacho My point exactly. You drove harder than anyone else to lynch me, and now by your own admittance I am a very very very easy mislynch.

@Tammy - I luv u so much

[St Constantine the Hermit]

You didn't have a reaction to those last two posts at all? Why are you townreading Constantine?

Seriously? It was a reaction test? If you are town, I really can't understand your plays.

[lane0168]

I'm not. In was town reading marquis for his very early game. I've barely had time to read Constantine thoroughly but what I've seen doesn't change my mind. You went from not caring about who we lynch and conStanton is the best lynch to no voting. That's messed up

[lane0168]

If I saw a bird. Had previous knowledge that birds flew. And this bird up and flew, what the hell kind of reaction would you expect. I already said I highly doubt he flips scum

[Nachomamma8]

You didn't have a reaction to those last two posts at all? Why are you townreading Constantine?

Seriously? It was a reaction test? If you are town, I really can't understand your plays.

For clarity, I was referring to the two posts you made that prompted Tammy and I to unvote.

[Nachomamma8]

You went from not caring about who we lynch and conStanton is the best lynch to no voting. That's messed up

I've never not cared who we lynched. I pointed out that now is a time to be more pragmatic than usual, but I've never not cared who we lynched.

[Ricastle]

Survivalist? Are you even reading what you're writing?

Do you think it's reasonable for you to be able to live past D2 with all this pressure on you and a Constantine townflip? Precisely. Backing up on the wagon is the most survivalistic thing you could be doing at this point.

[Nachomamma8]

I pressured Tammy specifically because times close to deadline are times when you vote quick and think less because it allows you to get a wider range of very productive reactions. I framed it the way I did because "no vote him now so he can react" has a poorer ring to it. I wouldn't have minded if he was lynched before he reacted because I thought he was a good bet for scum, but I wasn't expecting him to be lynched.

[lane0168]

It was strategic for Nacho. If I die and flip town, then nothing will save nacho from being lynched tommorow, so unvoting now is a good way for him to shake the heat and maybe earn some town points.

If I were scum, you would be a very very very easy mislynch.

So you're town that was pushing the super mislynch up until hours before deadline and now unvoting. That's scummy as Fuck. Wouldn't town try to push for a scum read? Wouldnt that be the smart play?

You are scum, you pushed an easy mislynch, and now you're claiming you're town because if you were scum you would've pushed the mislynch? That's exactly what you were doing begging for a hammer!

[lane0168]

You weren't expecting him to be lynched. L-2 and you knew 2 people willing to vote for him. Give me a break

[Nachomamma8]

Survivalist? Are you even reading what you're writing?

Do you think it's reasonable for you to be able to live past D2 with all this pressure on you and a Constantine townflip? Precisely. Backing up on the wagon is the most survivalistic thing you could be doing at this point.

Yes. You are voting me for not providing a case on Constantine when you have provided a grand total of one case this game. Aronis is voting me for fun. Lane is voting me because I thought there was a way scum could feasibly take daykill after an unfortunate horoscope from town. Constantine is voting me for survival purposes except now he believes I'm scum because I'll die if I mislynch him.

The wagon on me sucks. It won't last long when day comes and people are calm. You may be able to lynch me now, sure. But it's not because I've been playing scummily and its not because your suspicion is anything more than utter shit. It's because it's deadline and Constantine looks town.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Look Nacho. I would buy more into you blving I was town from those posts, and an open admittance of contradiction, over your claim that this was all a reaction test. Reaction test? Now that is BS.

[Nachomamma8]

Wouldn't town try to push for a scum read? Wouldnt that be the smart play?

I'm reading the game trying to get a scumread.
I didn't have a magical backup scumread in case Constantine was town.

You are scum, you pushed an easy mislynch, and now you're claiming you're town because if you were scum you would've pushed the mislynch? That's exactly what you were doing begging for a hammer!

I am pointing out that the argument that I was under an obligation to unvote was wrong. I could have very easily stepped away from the game was Constantine was at L-1 and Tammy was thinking about hammering and no one could have recently faulted me for it.

[Ricastle]

No, I'm voting you because you were

vigorously pushing a deadline mislynch

with no case.

[Nachomamma8]

You weren't expecting him to be lynched. L-2 and you knew 2 people willing to vote for him. Give me a break

Tammy takes a very long time to make decisions. she wasn't going to hammer.

I doubted Bert would instantly hammer but was not sure about that.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Nacho, there are actual justifications for lynching you. Never did you provide one case that I am scum.

In your shoes, I would of done the exact same thing and unvoted, but unfortunately for you there were ppl here who could call you out on it. I'm not buying into it being a reaction test. Not for a second.

[Nachomamma8]

No, I'm voting you because you were

vigorously pushing a deadline mislynch

with no case.

I voted Constance because he was my weakest town read. I pushed actively because actively pushing is better than waiting regardless of your read strength.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho, there are actual justifications for lynching you. Never did you provide one case that I am scum.

In your shoes, I would of done the exact same thing and unvoted, but unfortunately for you there were ppl here who could call you out on it. I'm not buying into it being a reaction test. Not for a second.

I didn't say it was a reaction test.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I'll defend nacho on the deadline lynch. I push deadline lynches myself when on D1. I wasn't even completely confident in him being scum, but the unvote eased me over a little bit.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I framed it the way I did because "no vote him now so he can react"

You didn't have a reaction to those last two posts at all? Why are you townreading Constantine?