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Post Post #2123 (isolation #200) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:53 am

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In post 2120, Kagami wrote:
In post 2117, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 2112, Kagami wrote:I think contains at least one scum.

You seem to disagree. What's your opinion?


it already contains at least one scum. cabd flipped scum. lol


I mean the rest.

Singer was clearly not going to be lynched and makes a decent NK for that reason, but the same could be said of several other players. If Singer's entire lynch list, which was obviously not going to change with the cabd flip and which she had been passionately pursuing, is all town, scum would be insane not to leave her alive.


Except this exact logic is really easy to push and makes a singer kill a good play to get someone on that list lynched.

Which would speak to scum being off that list for the most part.

Or maybe scum have a role cop and hit singer?

or maybe they snorted pixie dust.

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Post Post #2125 (isolation #201) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:54 am

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In post 2122, Kagami wrote:
In post 2118, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I can't be arsed to get angry, I'm too tired. Insomnia for 24 hours.

I just hate you all. We get a scum lynch and I'm all excited to use my power in a fucking useful way and then you guys are morons.


That's silly, if this was your power, then you have no reason to be angry. we're not lynching you.


Are you reading the same thread I am?

It doesn't feel like you are.

Because you're not voting Jazzmyn based on her positng today.

And it's infuriating.
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Post Post #2128 (isolation #202) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:56 am

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Players won't flip until the end of the day, so the result of the first lynch won't be shown until the second lynch is finished.

Beyond that, there doesn't seem to be any restrictions. I waited until after the scum lynch to activate it, because I felt that would be the peak time of town interaction and give us the best chance.
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Post Post #2129 (isolation #203) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:56 am

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In post 2127, Kagami wrote:Except that a better play to get someone on that list lynched is to keep singer alive.


Was anyone listening to singer?
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Post Post #2136 (isolation #204) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:01 am

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In post 2132, Kagami wrote:
In post 2129, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2127, Kagami wrote:Except that a better play to get someone on that list lynched is to keep singer alive.


Was anyone listening to singer?


You don't think they might start after the Cabd-flip?

If they were counting on no one listening to singer, why kill her anyway?


Why are you asking me like I fucking know?

The most obvious reason for singer dying beyond for her reads would be because scum have some kind of rolecop, and her role is some kind of power role.

So either BBMolla is scum (who is the other person she named again? let me go check) or the above is likely true. Is that who you want to lynch today?
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Post Post #2139 (isolation #205) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:04 am

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She did?

I thought I read something else, give me a moment.
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Post Post #2141 (isolation #206) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:05 am

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Oh I did't read the role PM.

I just read the flip name, and didn't see VT and since it's a bastard game I assumed.

Ok, then yeah. Never mind on that.
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Post Post #2142 (isolation #207) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:05 am

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In post 2140, Kagami wrote:
In post 2124, Kagami wrote:Was the day you use it on arbitrarily chosen, or limited to Day 3? Are there any additional effects we should be aware of?


Can you answer this, LLD?

In post 2128, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Players won't flip until the end of the day, so the result of the first lynch won't be shown until the second lynch is finished.

Beyond that, there doesn't seem to be any restrictions. I waited until after the scum lynch to activate it, because I felt that would be the peak time of town interaction and give us the best chance.
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Post Post #2144 (isolation #208) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:10 am

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In post 2143, Kagami wrote:I see. I imagine it's one-shot as well.

I definitely agree with the timing.


I was gonna make a joke about how I could make this game a nightless if I wanted and use it every night, but I'm giggling too hard at the thought so yes, it's a one shot.
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Post Post #2146 (isolation #209) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:14 am

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In post 2145, Kagami wrote:Even-night wouldn't be crazy, but w/e.


Really? I think that's absurd.

Don't take this giggle from me! I don't get to laugh very often anymore! :(
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Post Post #2148 (isolation #210) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:17 am

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In post 2147, Kagami wrote:Are you suggesting that a mini-night occurs between the two lynches in which we can act? Otherwise, you're making no sense.


No. We get one lynch with no flip then another lynch, then they both flip, then we go to night 3. As far as I can tell.
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Post Post #2151 (isolation #211) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:21 am

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In post 2150, Kagami wrote:Hardly giggle-worthy, though I'm glad you've gotten some levity.


you're ruining my fun with logic.

SHE BLINDED ME WITH SCIENCE :(
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Post Post #2153 (isolation #212) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:22 am

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back to real talk, you want Jazzmyn lynch my vote is here my body is fucking ready.
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Post Post #2160 (isolation #213) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:25 am

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Jazzmyn is at L-1 right now so let's not hammer before we get a claim ok? Especially today.
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Post Post #2187 (isolation #214) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:50 am

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In post 2186, zakk wrote:My role pm album is maladroit by weezer



...

what?
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Post Post #2192 (isolation #215) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:53 am

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I'm getting fucking trolled.

I'm going to try and sleep.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #216) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:09 pm

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"Hammer without a claim is a policy lynch. No exceptions."

BBMolla, care to explain why your vote is not on Zakk right now?
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Post Post #2278 (isolation #217) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:13 pm

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In post 2276, Metal Sonic wrote:Oh. Molla. Right


Did you wait for cabd to claim, LLD?


Zakk was about to hammer anyway, so I just took the opportunity to fuck with him a bit. Besides, how does that change the issue? The circumstances are clearly different?
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Post Post #2285 (isolation #218) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:12 am

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In post 2284, Kagami wrote:If you think LLD is scum, there's only one scenario where that is reasonable.


What scenario is that, exactly?
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Post Post #2287 (isolation #219) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:17 am

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yeah sure. Abacab- Mike Rutherford
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Post Post #2289 (isolation #220) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:24 am

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oh yeah you asked me a question about what bastard elements I thought were in the game, didn't you? I meant to give that some thought, but I honestly don't know where to begin with that line of thought.
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Post Post #2291 (isolation #221) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:31 am

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how specific am I allowed to get before I get modkilled?
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Post Post #2293 (isolation #222) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:34 am

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Yeah but there's a whole expination of flavour that goes with it, and we're starting to get into a discussion of role PMs.

The song name is the same as the album name, Abacab. I will explain the flavour that goes with it if that's legal.
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Post Post #2296 (isolation #223) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:39 am

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Mine is a kind of weird loose fit but it makes sense if you know the context behind it.
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Post Post #2303 (isolation #224) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:19 am

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In post 2300, Kagami wrote:Do you not agree that LLD's use of this power is unlikely to come from scum?


MS is going to need a headlamp to find his way out of the tunnel he is currently in.

I get paranoia, but it's becoming ridiculous.
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Post Post #2310 (isolation #225) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:49 am

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Hold the fuck on, dude.

If you choose anything without the town's consent I will personally hang you for it.
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Post Post #2311 (isolation #226) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:50 am

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Vi is fucking town, don't you fucking dare.
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Post Post #2313 (isolation #227) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:51 am

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I don't know what the actual fuck is going on. This isn't a function of my ability.
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Post Post #2326 (isolation #228) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:03 am

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In post 2325, Kagami wrote:This ability should be claimed.

There is only one player who would reasonably have caused this while also being town aligned.


I have given thought to the idea that it might not be a targeted ability. The chosen person may have been selected pseudo randomly.

And even if that is the case, I can't think of a single person for whom this is true.
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Post Post #2329 (isolation #229) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:24 am

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In post 2328, Kagami wrote:We'll find out when/if that player claims it.

Whoever used this on you is expecting either myself or Vi to be lynched, and doesn't mind sacrificing his own control over which is chosen. Who do you think would do such a thing?


Ranmaru????

Seriously that's where my thoughts went too, Kagami, and I can't come up with anyone who is ok with that pairing. Ranmaru doesn't want Vi lynched. MS doesn't want you lynched. BBMolla.... maybe? actually that's a thought....
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Post Post #2424 (isolation #230) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:38 am

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I'm at DragonFlight this weekend. I'll pop in when and if I have time, but will be free after.
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Post Post #2467 (isolation #231) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:59 pm

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Just got home, but I told Kagami this yesterday. The only restrictions I had are 1) it was one shot and 2) the first lynch doesn't flip until the second one is finished.
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Post Post #2474 (isolation #232) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:51 pm

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In post 2471, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 2467, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Just got home, but I told Kagami this yesterday. The only restrictions I had are 1) it was one shot and 2) the first lynch doesn't flip until the second one is finished.


Great.

How willing are you to vote BBmolla with Me and Nacho?


About 80%. The issue is, since this is Mylo, I don't want to rush into a situation where we vote someone before I give it some thought and reflection, but given yesterday's events I am strongly leaning towards a BBMolla!scum scenario.
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But that being said, I remain fairly confident Vi is town, so I'd rather not go there today.

Consider my vote on BBMolla for all intents and purposes, pressure wise, but I'm not putting it there before I feel confident I've read everything and I'm comfortable with my vote.
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Post Post #2477 (isolation #233) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:57 pm

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Then yes I promise you that I will strongly look into Vi in that scenario. I'd look into all 3 other people (though Nacho a little less so, given I feel he could easily just win today if he was scum and had us badly fooled, so...)
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Post Post #2478 (isolation #234) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:59 pm

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In post 2476, Metal Sonic wrote:Vi and Zakk, pick Vi.


I find it very unlikely Molla gave a kingmaker to a scumpartner to shoot obvtown.


This is the thing I want you to consider going into tomorrow if Molla is scum (because there won't be a tomorrow if it isn't)


I will keep this in mind and do my due diligence.
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Post Post #2525 (isolation #235) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:18 pm

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In post 2511, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm not confident in LLD-Molla, obviously.

Molla is scum. Molla doesn't seem to be scum with zakk, zakk is playing the way he usually does as town. You are town. Metal Sonic could possibly be scum (maybe is) but things like interactions with Kagami, calling everyone scum today seem more town than not. LLD has the best scum game out of any living player and could probably fool me where others couldn't.


BBMolla said he could use his power in lylo yeah?

So why use it then if I'm scum with him? Kagami and I were discussing a Zakk lynch. Why use it then to give ZAKK power to choose the lynch, which will land on Kagami or Vi?

Because BBMolla couldn't afford Zakk being lynched that day.

If BBMolla was scum with me, then this game would have been over. Zakk lynched yesterday, Molla gives me sole vote in Mylo, GG.

So that pairing, in addition to being silly (because you fucking know I'm not scum Nacho, come on) is actually not possible unless BBMolla lied about when he could use the power.
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Post Post #2526 (isolation #236) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:21 pm

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BBMolla/Zakk, after review, is where I'm at. I'm appeasing MS by doing a strong consideration on Vi, because in order to lynch scum today we pretty much need all 4 townies to agree.

MS' reactions and shit after he was revealed from his alt was just town.

Nacho's push on BBMolla feels like the breath of fresh air I needed from him to get back into this game and solidify my decaying town read on him, so he's town.

Vi, I remain certain is town to my very core.

There you go, that's 4 town.
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Post Post #2583 (isolation #237) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:42 pm

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In post 2582, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2526, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:BBMolla/Zakk, after review, is where I'm at. I'm appeasing MS by doing a strong consideration on Vi, because in order to lynch scum today we pretty much need all 4 townies to agree.

MS' reactions and shit after he was revealed from his alt was just town.

Nacho's push on BBMolla feels like the breath of fresh air I needed from him to get back into this game and solidify my decaying town read on him, so he's town.

Vi, I remain certain is town to my very core.

There you go, that's 4 town.

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Post Post #2585 (isolation #238) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:45 pm

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In post 2584, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2583, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2582, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2526, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:BBMolla/Zakk, after review, is where I'm at. I'm appeasing MS by doing a strong consideration on Vi, because in order to lynch scum today we pretty much need all 4 townies to agree.

MS' reactions and shit after he was revealed from his alt was just town.

Nacho's push on BBMolla feels like the breath of fresh air I needed from him to get back into this game and solidify my decaying town read on him, so he's town.

Vi, I remain certain is town to my very core.

There you go, that's 4 town.

^this post is awful


What's awful about it?

Come on, you must have something.

Calculated as all hell.


What's calculated about it?

See, you're giving generic buzzword answers, and not explaining yourself.
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Post Post #2593 (isolation #239) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:52 pm

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In post 2586, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2526, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:BBMolla/Zakk,
after review
, is where I'm at. I'm appeasing MS by doing a
strong consideration
on Vi, because in order to lynch scum today we pretty much need all 4 townies to agree.

MS' reactions and shit after he was revealed from his alt was just town.

Nacho's push on BBMolla feels like the
breath of fresh air
I needed from him to get back into this game and
solidify my decaying
town read on him, so he's town.

Vi,
I remain certain
is town to my very core.

There you go, that's 4 town.

underlined some key calculated bullshit phrases


so qualifying words used to express my opinions are now "calculated".

Congratulations, you're really reaching now.
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Post Post #2595 (isolation #240) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:53 pm

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In post 2589, BBmolla wrote:Why am I the first one to point out Kagami's claim? If you reviewed so hard or whatever the fuck you did why didn't you bring it up?


You're not the first one to? I believe I addressed it yesterday.

What are you suggesting? That your claim of your role changing somehow makes you town?
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Post Post #2602 (isolation #241) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:58 pm

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In post 2596, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2595, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2589, BBmolla wrote:Why am I the first one to point out Kagami's claim? If you reviewed so hard or whatever the fuck you did why didn't you bring it up?


You're not the first one to? I believe I addressed it yesterday.

What are you suggesting? That your claim of your role changing somehow makes you town?

Nacho's whole fucking claim case on me was there was nothing to suggest me gaining a role pm was a mechanic in this game

or did you read Nacho's case


Of course I didn't read it I've been at Dragonflight all weekend and then watched the LCS today.

I reviewed the game in my head and came to my conclusion based on my reads and interactions I remembered. I haven't voted yet, because I haven't done a full review and reread.
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Post Post #2603 (isolation #242) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:59 pm

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In post 2599, BBmolla wrote:And if not, why are you saying his shit is a "breath of fresh air" when you didn't read it

?

??
?
?
?
?
????
??
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I read the beginning of the day, when he voted you and put a lot of confident pressure on you.

Yesterday and days before he's been uncertain and passive and barely around. I need him to express himself, because he could have lurked through today and won, easily.
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Post Post #2605 (isolation #243) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:16 pm

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Nacho, why do you think his role changing is fake over it just being a safe claim, or that role pms changing are alignment neutral?

I need to go check something.
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Post Post #2606 (isolation #244) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:20 pm

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Ok yeah, UT claims in the opening post that scum are given safeclaims.
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Post Post #2608 (isolation #245) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:27 pm

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In post 2607, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2605, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Nacho, why do you think his role changing is fake over it just being a safe claim, or that role pms changing are alignment neutral?

I need to go check something.

I think the powers to no powers is fake because there hasn't been evidence of there being a vanillaizer in the game.

I think the powers themselves are fake because forensic investigator is stupidly stupidly overpowered.


Can you elaborate on the second part?
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Post Post #2616 (isolation #246) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:42 pm

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Why kingmake Zakk, Molla?

Were you able to target yourself?

If not, why not someone else? I want you to run me through your thought process.
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Post Post #2626 (isolation #247) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:48 pm

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In post 2619, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2616, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Why kingmake Zakk, Molla?

Were you able to target yourself?

If not, why not someone else? I want you to run me through your thought process.

"Who do I remotely think is town and will not lynch me? I can not target myself. zakk's shit seems a bit too out there to make up as scum and he won't lynch me, zakk it is."


Ok, but you knew who he would choose right? He only ever talked about two people.

Did you ever consider them in your reads?
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Post Post #2628 (isolation #248) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:57 pm

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In post 2627, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2626, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2619, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2616, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Why kingmake Zakk, Molla?

Were you able to target yourself?

If not, why not someone else? I want you to run me through your thought process.

"Who do I remotely think is town and will not lynch me? I can not target myself. zakk's shit seems a bit too out there to make up as scum and he won't lynch me, zakk it is."


Ok, but you knew who he would choose right? He only ever talked about two people.

Did you ever consider them in your reads?

I wasn't sure about my reads on either of them.


Both of them were null?

What about anyone else? Did you have a scum read on anyone at that point that day?
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Post Post #2630 (isolation #249) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:13 pm

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So confirm for me you couldn't choose yourself, and then let me know why you weren't more open about this yesterday? I mean it came as a shock to all of us, and then Zakk made his choice. Why not ask if anyone would be willing to use the power to lynch your top scum read and then activating it for them?

And please, your answer can't include anything about wanting to get to the next night to use your abilities or anything.
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Post Post #2631 (isolation #250) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:13 pm

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I know that seems limiting, but that answer is not enough for me to understand. I need something else.
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Post Post #2642 (isolation #251) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:07 pm

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In post 2640, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2636, Nachomamma8 wrote:Subject: Sabotage Mafia Reloaded GG

BBmolla wrote::|

I'm a Biomedical Engineer, AKA a Disabler. It says that someone anti-town knows I exist and is trying to find the information I have on the company's new project so I should remain hidden

Hence not wanting to claim

BBMolla doesn't fakeclaim like normal people do.

AP gave me that fake claim at the start of the game dude.


Right.... but we know as per statement 3 in the second opening post of the game, scum are given safeclaims.

So why is this relevant?
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Post Post #2668 (isolation #252) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:57 am

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In post 2664, Vi wrote:Lady Lambdadelta. What are you waiting for?

@Metal Sonic: if defense involves cutting his claims apart unprompted, sure
It looks better than your "BBMolla is scum because lol LOL bullshit" and then getting someone else to do the heavy lifting


Let's call it sober second thought. I've seen too many games in Mylo or Lylo die to not thinking through enough to be ready to place someone at L-1 quickly.

That being said, I can't see myself voting anyone else but Molla or Zakk today, even with the discussion I had with Molla. His reasoning for his Zakk choice just doesn't make any sense except from a preservationist perspective, which is troubling because while it's neutral, you'd think Town would be more interested in catching scum with that ability than "who won't kill me?"

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Post Post #2669 (isolation #253) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:57 am

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Actually,
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Post Post #2670 (isolation #254) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:58 am

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Vi, is there any reason I shouldn't follow my gut on BBMolla?
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Post Post #2671 (isolation #255) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:59 am

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Like you're sitting there screaming that he's town and I don't agree but you're a strong town read for me and we need all the townies on this wagon for it to be a scum lynch, since I doubt the scum will Bus.

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Post Post #2673 (isolation #256) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:05 am

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Ok.

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Post Post #2676 (isolation #257) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:30 am

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I'm town, so I know it's not.
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Post Post #2687 (isolation #258) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:23 pm

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GG WP.
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Dead, actually, is the word you are looking for.
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Post Post #2713 (isolation #260) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:06 pm

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In post 2710, Vi wrote:also represent, holding down the worst role in the game with literally no redeeming value

a shame, because I liked The Living Years

Also, am I reading the scum abilities wrong or were they massively OP as a faction? Like, yeah, 2xWatcher is nuts, but etc.


We were a 1 shot rolestealer (who we used night 1 and hit a Vanilla).

A roleblocker

And a 2 shot ninja

along with the Alamo (the double day)

Divorce to help us with all the town power

and our factional kill.
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Post Post #2721 (isolation #261) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:24 pm

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In post 2714, Untrod Tripod wrote:Scum was still a hair away from losing

Imo the balance was fine


Yeah, if the Ascetic targets Nacho and Nacho redirects Zakk and Myself we are absolutely assfucked.
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Post Post #2757 (isolation #262) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:48 pm

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In post 2729, Kagami wrote:GG to the scumteam~

I'm surprised you used the double-lynch thing, LLD; but I guess your entire team was so safely harbored that it makes sense.

Thanks for modding UT.

I don't understand why people think apathy was a thing? Once BB was in, the game was going at a pretty good clip.

I personally think I played a pretty reasonable game. I should have stuck with the associative from cabd-slot that painted LLD as scum, and zakk was also pretty obviously scum until BB kind of replaced him with the survival kingmake. O well.


I just felt at that singular moment, I could use the 1 shot Alamo ability and claim it without any competition, to convince at least 3-4 players still in the game that my ability was town sided.

If you want a similar tactic from me, go look at Mafia Behind the Maiden, which I won (nearly singlehandedly, given most of my scum team got wiped out early) by using my rolecop ability to pretend I was a country cop, and claiming that since my character came from the scum country, and I was town, it was very likely that I was more or less a pure cop with some millers/godfathers strewn about.

People often forget that just because a role is proveable, and just because it appears to help town, doesn't mean that the speculation on it should clear me.

And it did. Metal Sonic, you and others all pushed very strongly that both my use of the power and the power itself were very townie in nature, which I think is the maximal use of that power. Beyond that use it is a double day where someone doesn't flip until the end, which means scum more or less miss out on a kill for that effect, which I think is a poor trade.

We got the double town lynch we wanted and I came out of that day looking really good.
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Post Post #2758 (isolation #263) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:06 pm

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In post 2749, Metal Sonic wrote:Let's talk about happy things

Respect for singer and LLD significantly increased; another textbook example of their demonstration of their skills that they are famous for

Respect for zakk returned to baseline, was scum, so not an absolute idiot

Jazzmyn continues to remain on my "favorite players to play with list"


I don't know how I feel about "skills I am famous for".

I mean, yeah I'm good at scum, but is that really a famous fact about me? Am I some kind of superstar? :P
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Post Post #2764 (isolation #264) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:58 pm

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In post 2761, Metal Sonic wrote:I've never played an actual game with you before and this is seeing the live performance where you roll that alignment. I say it is an honor to witness


Honour is a strong word, especially since I feel I got at least a little lucky.
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Post Post #2767 (isolation #265) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:34 am

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In post 2766, Metal Sonic wrote:That's true, but eh I wanted a game to see LLD-scum in and I got it. And she won.

Hope to play with you again! Next time, we swap alignments, then we shall see who wins :twisted:


Challenge: You have to let me live to LYLO/MYLO.

I did that for you~.
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Post Post #2770 (isolation #266) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:07 am

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In post 2769, Metal Sonic wrote:Challenge declined. Circumstances depend completely on the playerlist/game state/your role. If the game state permits it, I'll try that challenge ;)


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Post Post #2774 (isolation #267) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:01 am

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Mew. :(
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Post Post #2785 (isolation #268) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:53 am

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In post 2784, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 2780, Vi wrote:Metal Sonic is an epic-tier, hohum-class piece of shit on a personal level. It's even beyond the usual sorts of people we see as moderators, because they at least tend to have been provoked into awfulness. Metal Sonic does it for fun!


Firstly, this is over the line. I'm been absolutely patient with you, but this is enough. I've been taking your abuse, when all I have done was for attempting to determine your alignment, and lo-and-behold! You were the hardest defender of scum in the entire game! Apparently, you still have the cheek to blame others for not townreading you enough.

Secondly, 99.99% of MafiaScummers would disagree with you.

Case closed.

From this post onwards, I'm going to stop being friendly to Vi, because #2780 was clearly antagonistic, and it's a waste of my effort to be nice to people who are going out of their way to do the opposite.


Congratulations on making the whole world blind. How do you feel?

Ah, it looks like we're out of time. We'll be back next week though, on "Terrible posts that serve absolutely no purpose!"

-Audience Applause-

Seriously, both of you drop it. Neither of you like each other, we get it, welcome to MafiaScum. This isn't a community populated by people who all love eachother.

That being said, if you two can't be civil, then frankly you're missing the whole point.
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Post Post #2786 (isolation #269) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:55 am

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Also, I almost never ask this but fuck it, I like the way Kagami writes.

What would you have done differently than me, Kagami? I would ask the question (How would you improve my scum game?) but given that this game ended in a town loss, that's a bit of a hard position to speak from.

Though, I suppose if you wanted to look through all my games and stuff feel free to answer that, but you get the idea.
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Post Post #2789 (isolation #270) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:05 am

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In post 2788, Metal Sonic wrote:No, I had to make it clear that the post was over the line. I've posted a number of times that I liked Vi but she refuses to be nice back.

I've been absolutely civil. I have not used any expletives or vulgarities with the express purpose of insulting Vi, and I have not done so in 2784. Great job on calling me a "piece of shit", though. I was defending my actions as game related but Vi decides to involve Out-Of-Game business which led to all of this. I am still defending myself while Vi is going offensive.

Anyway, thanks for the sarcasm LLD. You really did not have to respond to that.


p-edit: Better stuff. Hell yeah, I love Kagami.


LLD, you pinged a couple of my Level 5 Scum Tells which was why I was very quick to jump onto you after singer died. In fact, if there wasn't a certain symp in the game, I would argue that you might not have made it this far.

I would PM these tips to you because I would like to keep my scumhunting methods top secret and I suppose you want your improvements in your scumgame to be too?


I want you to take a look at my avatar then tell me if you think it cares whether or not I "had" to respond to that.

I'm telling you to stop propagating fights and using Ad Populum arguments to tell someone why their dislike of you is unfounded.

You will never convince this person of this, this way and you will only ever cause a shitstorm (Darude-ShitStorm)~.

So drop that whole stuff, and let it go (the cold never bothered me anyway).
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Post Post #2790 (isolation #271) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:09 am

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Alright, I'm going to teach you a lesson MetalSonic.

It's called "things I care about in a mafia game".

In the end, you called me town. It wasn't because of anyone elses reads, because you were content to call me scum without those after singer died.

No, you called me town because you agreed with Kagami's reasoning that I was town per my role, and eventually dropped me.

I made a conscious choice to burn a ton of my town cred killing singer. In that choice, I then made another consicous choice to do something I felt would redouble that town cred, by not only making my perspective seem really town, but also making it a lot harder to consider I was the one making the singer kil.

So, I dunno, I feel like any statement that comes from "I knew you were scum and if this game had gone differently, I would have gotten you" is missing the point.
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Post Post #2793 (isolation #272) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:21 am

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In post 2792, singersigner wrote:Yet another example of why it bothers me that no one bothers used NKA anymore. Scum know they can get away with the more obvious kills because people don't really pay attention to them past "oh maybe PR hunting" or "well they were obv town". Like, who cares about killing obv town if you've got them town reading you?

But I digress. I knew once I died it was a lost cause for town because literally no one else was campaigning for LLDscum, and being more confirmed off a role people assumed she had a choice to use whenever was equally depressing but oh well. Such is the game.


I could use it whenever, that was true.

But I understand your pain. You played fantastically, truly.
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Post Post #2807 (isolation #273) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:20 pm

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In post 2804, Kagami wrote:Hope to play with you again in the not-so-distant future, LLD, though these days I join games almost exclusive by invite.


I'm making a small effort to try and play a few more games.

Really, all it takes is a cool player list and I'm down.
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Post Post #2811 (isolation #274) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:54 pm

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In post 2809, Jazzmyn wrote:In this game, Vi has quite definitively shown herself to be a "VI" on so many levels. She played horribly, which is not a big deal on its own, of course, but she also abused her mod abilities in the process (which IS a big deal) and in the aftermath of the game, she continues to make ridiculous excuses for her horrible play, and continues to breach the site rules in her post-game posts.

Unreal.

Vi, you should be very ashamed of yourself, and the site should turn your temporary mod-ban into a permanent mod-ban if it wishes to maintain its credibility.

Regards,
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You are speaking like you were any better.

This is a hostile game at times. If you're going to bitch and moan that someone hurt your pwessious little feewings, and then turn around and be just as toxic in the game, then maybe you start with yourself.
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Post Post #2815 (isolation #275) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:11 am

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In post 2814, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 2811, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:You are speaking like you were any better.

This is a hostile game at times. If you're going to bitch and moan that someone hurt your pwessious little feewings, and then turn around and be just as toxic in the game, then maybe you start with yourself.


You were toxic as hell, get off your high horse.


Yes, but I admit that I play with a certain level of hostility. I don't care if people get angry in this game, my point is that if you are going to complain about how people hurt your feelings, then you better be a fucking literal mother Theresa in game.

And no one here is.

But thank you for proving my point, ABR.
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Post Post #2816 (isolation #276) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:16 am

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It is funny, because, much like in the game, you don't actually care to read what people are saying, you just take openings to further your agenda based on personal slights.

And when you meet people who won't just let you walk all over them, you bitch and you moan and you misbehave.

It's kind of pathetic, honestly.
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Post Post #2817 (isolation #277) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:17 am

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anyway, I'm fine with the scum QT being released.
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Post Post #2823 (isolation #278) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:40 am

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In post 2820, vezokpiraka wrote:@LLD: There are people who had problems with ABR long before you joined. There is even a youtube video called "I hate ABR so much" or something. Despite this he is still a great player and has thicker skin than half the site.


Why are you talking like you've been around so much longer than me? lol. You joined literally 2 months before I did.

SleepyKrew wrote:There's a difference between having thick skin and completely ignoring criticism.


Basically.
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