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In post 112, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:In post 88, Concrete Angels wrote:I am townreading Thor.
p-edit: re: cat's post - "weirdly aggressive". Exactly.
Also please don't do the sqwauk thing. It gives me horrible flashbacks of Dark Age.
SQUAWK
This was a bad post. I know it's technically not game related but it's like you're trying to convey an "i don't give a fuck" attitude.-
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In post 84, Davsto wrote:In post 78, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:In post 74, Concrete Angels wrote:I'm honestly just waiting to get with MS because he has more experience with her and notscience.
Although i'd like to think you're town for this, i don't see why scum you wouldn't want to just aggro on me, and instead decided to consult with your other head who has more experience with the more recent me.
~Sakura
This post seems off. It starts off with an "although", implying that there is going to be a negative counter to the good point, but there isn't one.
It comes across that Sakura originally wanted to make a negative point but then realised she couldn't, so she just made it a positive point and forgot to edit out the remnants.
Semantics. I hate semantics reads.-
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In post 160, Davsto wrote:In post 157, pistachi0n wrote:VOTE: Hecatia
Most of her posts at first are filler that makes them seem like they're trying to do something, like 78.
Like there are a lot of posts but nothing good until 2/3 into the iso.
Sheeps votes on Vedith.
Not liking this.
Hopping on an easier bandwagon with little reasoning.
You don't like my vote on Hecatia? If I wanted an easy bandwagon I would have put my vote on Vedith.-
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In post 185, Wingback wrote:
Explain to me why scum are more likely than town to post "squawk" in response to being asked not to do it.In post 115, pistachi0n wrote:This was a bad post. I know it's technically not game related but it's like you're trying to convey an "i don't give a fuck" attitude.
I'm not voting Hecatia because they said squawk, that was just something I noticed. The general tone of the interaction made it seem like Hecatia was trying to project overconfidence.-
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In post 260, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:and pistachios does this thing where its very newb with very simplistic understandings of the game that she did in that mini that just finished and her one post here reminded me of tht!
Wait, what thing? I'm feeling self-conscious now. Are you referring to Frog mafia?-
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In post 292, Wingback wrote:In post 187, pistachi0n wrote:I'm not voting Hecatia because they said squawk, that was just something I noticed. The general tone of the interaction made it seem like Hecatia was trying to project overconfidence.
Which posts were Hecatia trying to project overconfidence? What is their scum benefit for doing it? You hopped onto the Hecatia wagon when it was in full swing. But your reasons aren't even close to what I found scummy about them in the first place. That makes me think you hopped on there because it was the cool thing happening at that time. Your justification is weak. I wouldn't characterize Hecatia's posts as "filler." They had taken solid stances at that point.
In post 236, pistachi0n wrote:Farside you are making me suspicious. Asking for name claims and justifying it with vague "I have a reason"
Do scum blatantly rolefish in your experience?
And you didn't answer my question as to what your read on Vedith was. You claim that you would have voted him if you were scum looking for an easy wagon. That implies you think he's town to some degree and that the people voting him are scummy in some sense. Is that true? If so, who are those people? If not, why do you call the wagon easy?
-The squawk post was projecting overconfidence in my opinion
-It seems like something careless scum would do
-Granted I don't know what either head is like as scum
-I jumped on the Hecatia wagon after Vedith was becoming the popular wagon
-Null read on Vedith, the main argument seems to be that he was posting elsewhere but ignoring questions, and the one other time I was playing with someone like that it was a townie who had joined too many games.
-So I think at least some of the people voting Vedith are capitalizing on that
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In post 311, Concrete Angels wrote:pistach0n, I'm not seeing the same inquisitive curiosity about people's intentions as I did in the town game I played with you. What's up with that?
Which game was that? I'm not really sure what you're referring to.-
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In post 317, Vedith wrote:Well it depends what they are saying.
If the comment is - Over dramatic, then yeah 1 game can give that indication.
Something like - He's lynch bait would normally take more 1 one game in my opinion.
Either that or every town I have ever played with that has been lynched can be considered as lynchbait.
But you 2 are the pros I guess.
This was kind of passive aggressive.-
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In post 358, Vedith wrote:Yeah I think there is. But to say it after 1 game means nothing.
It hasn't actually changed my read of who I think is scum. I was just more curious to why the change and the reason given didn't make me approve of it.
Every game usually has one lynchbait. It doesn't matter how they act in other games. it's whoever does the stupid thing first.-
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Thor and who are the other two?-
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I don't see anyone your iso.-
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In post 498, Ankamius wrote:In post 496, pistachi0n wrote:I like that Ank is willing to challenge a popular wagon, but I wish he would elaborate more on why, exactly, the wagon is bad.
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In post 504, Thor665 wrote:That's a popular wagon?
Or are you saying he opposed it last week or whenever it actually had its initial surge?
Yes.
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In post 547, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:I am townreading everyone on the ankamius wagon. Albeit the middle 2 are townleans, I am townreading the first two and the fifth vote is about the towniest player in this game.
Why? Solely because they're voting for Ankamius?-
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In post 579, Cataphant wrote:I really dislike how pistachio is not being discussed at all. Seems like the classic second option scum that gets looked over
VOTE: pistachio
People have been discussing me, not as much as the other players in the game, I admit. Do you have any questions for me?-
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In post 584, Davsto wrote:
Um, okay..?
Is there a reason for this or are you thinking it's a good idea for you to sheep Hecatia of all players?
I don't like your iso, I currently think you're scummier than Hecatia. I should have given a reason, though. You have multiple posts in which you say things like "I don't really have anything to say at this point," and I don't like it.-
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Town--Concrete Angels, Lying Cat, Wingback, Thor
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In post 651, Wingback wrote:In post 650, pistachi0n wrote:
Town--Concrete Angels, Lying Cat, Wingback, Thor
Scum--Davesto, Hecatia, farside
Can you post explanations for your reads? And I'd like thoughts on all players, not just a few. Arrange them in an order from town to scum if you will.
Town to scum:
Lying Cat--The interaction with Thor seems TVT, both seem like they have differing opinions but they're trying to maximize information and see where the other is coming from.
Thor--Town, same reasoning as lying cat.
Wingback--Has been pretty good about getting information and pushing most people
Concrete Angels--Shares thoughts freely, questions people, towny. But not as thorough as the 3 above him.
massive--The few posts he has are pretty good
Cataphant--Nothing that screams scum, but not a lot of justification for actions.
Vedith--Most of the posts at the beginning were defensive, but now is starting to take a stand
Ankamius--Seems a little sloppier than the game I played with him where he was town, but granted that's a meta read so I'm holding off to have an opinion on him
The bulge--Where are you????? Why hasn't he been prodded, he hasn't posted in over a week.
Hecatia--Filler and sheepy votes
Farside--I thought the slot was scummy because there was a whole lot of nothing but I'll wait and see what I think of the replacement
Davsto--Seems to be avoiding taking a stance on the game at all.-
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In post 693, Wingback wrote:1. Where did Lying Cat and Thor "maximize information" and "see where the other is coming from?" Can you quote the relevant posts and bold the sections where you think they did this and explain why you think it is town?
I don't think they successfully saw where the other was coming from, I think that was their intention in pushing each other and asking each other questions. And the interaction itself gave us information about them. I'm talking about 656 and 658.
In post 693, Wingback wrote:2. What about Massive's posts did you like? Can you link or quote those specific posts and explain what you liked about them?
Massive had good reasons for voting Hecatia in 192. I like how he makes Vedith clarify in 308, and how he asks Ankamius to follow up in 540. Although now that I read his iso again I don't like the buddying in 657.
In post 693, Wingback wrote:3. The Cataphant read seems like a cop-out. Elaborate on it.
Cataphant's vote for vedith in 153 was sheepy, a lot of the posts are agreeing with the consensus like 173 and 228 but I don't find those scummy per se. It doesn't seem like there's any motivation behind them other than laziness.
In post 693, Wingback wrote:4. Why are you "holding off" on Ankamius because it is a meta read? Do you not trust meta-reads? If not, why is your Farside read based solely on meta but you are not "holding off" on it?
No I don't trust meta reads, my farside read wasn't based solely on meta, but I am holding off on it because it's a replacement slot and I haven't seen the replacement yet (unless they came in after you made this post asking me questions, which I will see when I catch up after I answer your questions)
In post 693, Wingback wrote:5. What do you think of Hecatia and Davsto pushing each other? You are scumreading both of them so does it affect your reads that two of your scumreads are scumreading each other?
Both pushes are lazy pushes. It could be bussing, I could be wrong about one of them.-
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In post 747, Vedith wrote:Why is 308 a good post?
Because he's putting on pressure and trying to clarify something for more information.
In post 747, Vedith wrote:Can you go into detail more about your scum read on Farside, over the not scum read of Buldge?
The not scumread of Bulge is because he only had like 2 or 3 posts, that was before he was replaced.
For the first part of the game, farside was underwhelming. Like 167 was mostly agreeing with others, 168 is what I mean by underwhelming, I didn't like 198, I hate "I've said too much already" kind of stuff.
In post 747, Vedith wrote:Why is your vote still on Dav? Do you think that he is lying then?
He avoided taking a stance on anything in his early play, yes, I think he's lying about being The Birds.
In post 747, Vedith wrote:You had a very null read overall on Ank. Would you be up for lynching him today or no?
I don't really want to, I'd lynch anybody to avoid a no lynch though.-
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In post 791, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:My pistachios stance is pretty much a too b atshit to be scum stance
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In post 751, Wingback wrote:Except you started townreading both of them in Post 650 before either of these posts were made.
If you had other reasons for townreading Thor and Lying Cat, why didn't you state them in your reads list in Post 687?
Because their interaction was recent and therefore at the front of my mind when I made 687.
In post 751, Wingback wrote:What was your non-meta reason for scumreading Farside?
I explained in 908. I'm townreading farside more after her catchup.-
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In post 923, Vedith wrote:At this stage scum will want to get rid of the jailor, but try and make it viable to town. Concerning Dav's reads on people, did you feel that there wasn't enough effort in them or did you just not like them?
I don't like the slight push with no hard back up (considering that lynching Dav is going to be near enough impossible today)
You're right. I'm probably batshit to think Dav can be lynched today. That's something that should be resolved with power roles.
Although I disagree that scum would be getting rid of the JK by lynching when they can nightkill.
Going back to hecatia.
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In post 980, Wingback wrote:In post 979, pistachi0n wrote:In post 751, Wingback wrote:Except you started townreading both of them in Post 650 before either of these posts were made.
If you had other reasons for townreading Thor and Lying Cat, why didn't you state them in your reads list in Post 687?
Because their interaction was recent and therefore at the front of my mind when I made 687.
In post 751, Wingback wrote:What was your non-meta reason for scumreading Farside?
I explained in 908. I'm townreading farside more after her catchup.
Why were you townreading them in Post 650?
Because they have consistently been picking apart the game and trying to get information out of people.-
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In post 983, Wingback wrote:In post 982, pistachi0n wrote:Because they have consistently been picking apart the game and trying to get information out of people.
Where was Lying Cat doing this? Can you quote it?
He did have kind of a weak start, he was asking people to elaborate in 174 and 181, trying to figure out Cataphant in 400, pushing Thor in 511, more in 551.-
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In post 1256, Nachomamma8 wrote:DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS SUCKS
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I know you think I'm scummy but you haven't asked me any specific questions today.-
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In post 1272, Vedith wrote:In post 1269, pistachi0n wrote:I know you think I'm scummy but you haven't asked me any specific questions today.
Do you still think Dav is lying?
No. But he's certainly not confirmed town.-
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In post 1280, massive wrote:In post 1273, farside22 wrote:You need to explain that Nacho town read to me. I don't see it.
Troll or not, play or not it is all null with him
Have you never played a game with Nacho where you felt comfortable with his alignment one way or the other? Aside from knowing it as scum, of course.
Have you? Is it easy to tell?-
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