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In post 63, SnarkySnowman wrote:Pretty sure yarrrrgami is scum just sayin. And no, I've got a gameplan, I'm neither lyncher nor jester, nor reaction testing. Was hoping to attract a night kill but then I realized strongman was a thing <. <
Except, as far as I can tell, it is not.
Nothing in any of your posts is adding up at all.
VOTE: snarky-
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In post 117, Aronis wrote:Apparently somewhere along the way I missed the announcement about this game being full of trolls.
Well, it IS role madness. Cant really expect everyone here to start off serious.
I agree that there are a few posts that are simply to difficult to read, would rather then not post in that manner and are annoying BUT it certainly is not worth an automatic declaration of a PL out the gate. A jumo to a PL is suspect...-
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In post 139, Yarrrrgami wrote:
In post 120, Netherspite wrote:In post 114, Yarrrrgami wrote:
@Cap'n: Give the Frequently Askin' Question pirate a good pokin' with your scimitar while ye at it.
Thanks, I overlooked that.
FA_Q2has been prodded.
and then what happened
Then I posted. Considering one is on this very page I have to wonder if you are paying attention at all...-
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In post 133, Espeonage wrote:All these wagons suck.
SS is going to get sorted out, Rory doesn't have the mentality for his play to be scum driven, Aronis' request for time so that a push can come to fruition isn't being respected, Yarr is trying a posting style and actually engaging. I do not like a single pushed player for scum right now.
Vote: droog
You however aren't engaging with anyone, and asking for clarification on things when there is other meantime stuff that can be addressed doesn't count.
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In post 153, 3dicerolling wrote:Yarrrgami is prob town or 3rd p.
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In post 159, 3dicerolling wrote:In post 128, Randomnamechange wrote:I'm just not going to read anen's posts.
This made me laugh so hard because it's what I've been doing.
In all honesty - same here.
It simply is not fun or particularly engaging to try and decipher his posts. :/
You made the assertion. I was wondering why.
It seems that you do not have a reason. I have to wonder why you called him town then as well. Perhaps just throwing some things at the wall...-
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In post 177, Aneninen wrote:
In post 176, Yarrrrgami wrote:In post 170, Aneninen wrote:
In post 165, Yarrrrgami wrote:Seems to me as though he be claiming survivor, which be difficult to get rid of in any way that don't involve plank-walkin', and he be sure to mutiny against us once the opportunity be arising, lest he be violating the captain's orders.
What makes you think so?
In post 93, Rory wrote:My vote was totally OMGUS. I'm not Frumple though. I'm not Camper either. I can play with both Frumple and Camper if I need to. I'd rather work with the other Campers, so let's find these Frumples.
Oh, that. I can imagine at least two other things behind that. (Assuming he understood my posts well.)
And what would those be?
At the very least, that is a claim for 3p and that is anti town.
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In post 207, SnarkySnowman wrote:Uh where am I doing that???
You have avoided even discussing your 'plan' here after already making half-assed claims that do nothing for town.
In post 124, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 63, SnarkySnowman wrote:Pretty sure yarrrrgami is scum just sayin. And no, I've got a gameplan, I'm neither lyncher nor jester, nor reaction testing. Was hoping to attract a night kill but then I realized strongman was a thing <. <
Except, as far as I can tell, it is not.
Nothing in any of your posts is adding up at all.
VOTE: snarky
You alluded to changing gears because of strongman - a role that is not present in this game. The arsonist is the closest we get however it would not have any effect on drawing the NK. Essentially, your claims and then the back peddle away from it was absolute garbage and you have not bothered to go into it. You are absolutely scum.-
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In post 197, Aneninen wrote:
Cult, is what I'm afraid of the most.
A slow-played Jester is also possible.
Obviously, I wouldn't rule out a lying Mafia too.
However, there's one Role which could help us a lot. Namely, the Amnesiac.
That might have been true if he didn't announce it. Doing so completely sand-bags its utility for town considering it is announced once the amnesiac takes a role.
3P - lynch candidate. 3P's are inherently anti town no matter how much they claim to want to play for town. It is against their win con not to jump to the other side of the fence when the opportunity presents itself as better. It certainly does not behoove us to wait until lylo when that knife in the back ensures they win and scum have absolutely nothing to fear from a 3p.-
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In post 213, SnarkySnowman wrote:OMGUS much?
What the hell is OMGUS far as I can tell you have not even said anything about fire.
In post 214, Rory wrote:In post 210, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 197, Aneninen wrote:
Cult, is what I'm afraid of the most.
A slow-played Jester is also possible.
Obviously, I wouldn't rule out a lying Mafia too.
However, there's one Role which could help us a lot. Namely, the Amnesiac.
That might have been true if he didn't announce it. Doing so completely sand-bags its utility for town considering it is announced once the amnesiac takes a role.
3P - lynch candidate. 3P's are inherently anti town no matter how much they claim to want to play for town. It is against their win con not to jump to the other side of the fence when the opportunity presents itself as better. It certainly does not behoove us to wait until lylo when that knife in the back ensures they win and scum have absolutely nothing to fear from a 3p.
There's 7 town, 3 mafia and 3 neutrals.
I can help town have 8 town.
Or you can lynch me and I move on. Your choice.
I know. I am more than willing to lynch you. I prefer snowman though - I am fairly certain that he is scum and scum is a better lynch. The rest of town just does not want to cooperate.-
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And yet here you are - trying to help scum by pointing out possible PR crumbs.
Tell me again why you are going to be a pro-town player?
VOTE: snarkeysnowman
Can we please get some damn traction here. His posts and attempts to disregard his own claims while acting as though he is not simply screams scum and town is letting this garbage simply pass.-
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In post 261, Rory wrote:can we get some prods?
I still want to hear from FAQ about how he thinks Amnesiac is pro-town.
It has both utilities.
you claim 3p and then start playing anti-town. Your 'question' is nothing more than an attempt to redirect from that reality. The role's utility is blatantly obvious.-
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In post 275, Randomnamechange wrote:
@droog we are getting no where with discussion and will probably hit town, we get a huge amount of night info that can help discussion. There's a reason this setup generally starts with day 0
No - period.
We have confirmed 3p. If there simply is not a better vote for this day then lynching the 3p is far better than a no-lynch.-
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In post 286, Randomnamechange wrote:OK fair enough on the fair party lynches. I generally don't worry about them too much early with the exception of cult, but that's a difference of opinion.
Worrying about them is irrelevant. You are making the claim that we should not lynch because it will likely hit town. At some point, town may HAVE to deal with 3p. If your reason really was fear of hitting town you would go for the 3p. You have not ergo your reason is contrived - aka scummy.-
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In post 316, Xkfyu wrote:In post 309, Aneninen wrote:In post 308, SnarkySnowman wrote:
I'm down with a massclaim. I am Busdriver.
Stop massclaiming.
That's how we started going down last time.
Also, I think this claim was actually fake.
Considering that this was the second time he has actually claimed, and that no one actually agreed to a mass claim, I'd say it's a pretty good bet that it's fake.
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In post 337, Xkfyu wrote:In post 323, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 316, Xkfyu wrote:In post 309, Aneninen wrote:In post 308, SnarkySnowman wrote:
I'm down with a massclaim. I am Busdriver.
Stop massclaiming.
That's how we started going down last time.
Also, I think this claim was actually fake.
Considering that this was the second time he has actually claimed, and that no one actually agreed to a mass claim, I'd say it's a pretty good bet that it's fake.
Then why are you not voting here?
Why should I be?
If you think that this is a fake claim it is pretty unlikely that it is coming from town.
Further, he has refused to engage on his terrible first fake claim, how it was supposed to help town and all around is being scummy.-
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Rory's last two were even worst. All of the sudden he is not claiming 3p and it was all a ruse to see who would do the town action of lynching known 3p and then voting them.
I cannot put into words how bad that pile of crap smells.
In post 417, Rory wrote:In post 278, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 275, Randomnamechange wrote:
@droog we are getting no where with discussion and will probably hit town, we get a huge amount of night info that can help discussion. There's a reason this setup generally starts with day 0
No - period.
We have confirmed 3p. If there simply is not a better vote for this day then lynching the 3p is far better than a no-lynch.
Really? Who is confirmed 3p?
You claimed it. You are getting lynched for it.
If you are now claiming that was a lie that certainly is not going to help your case. It makes it worse...-
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In post 485, droog wrote:In post 484, Aneninen wrote:I doubt scums (if you meant Mafia by that) would care too much whether they're pushing a mislynch or a Third Party.
nope
but a 3rd party lynch is easy
when scum push a mislynch people will conflict
when scum push 3rd party nobody will say
"but wont you think of the poor anti-town!"
I find this reasoning exceptionally specious. You are essentially stating that you are identifying scum through a pro-town action. That makes no sense. Town will do the same thing here. What differentiates this action from town doing the same thing?
As evidenced throughout this day, a 3p lynch does not really seem 'easy' here at all anyway. I find it just as likely that scum is sitting this out as much as possible.-
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In post 524, shos wrote:Anen is telling truth but - I have been swapped as in MY TARGET was nit my original one.
I targetted Aronis. Anen?
@random - when you kill someone, as any killing role, you may deliver a message along with the kill.
Are you informed then when your target has been changed?
I am not clear on how you know if you have been bus driven.-
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In post 540, Aronis wrote:In post 510, FA_Q2 wrote:I don't like that quick hammer at all...
Bc its totally sensible to put some1 at L1 but at the same time have no intention of killing them or expect them to die.
whatever
No.
It is totally sensible to place someone at L-1 and expect that we get an INTENT TO HAMMER. Do not pretend that you do not understand the basic site meta on this.
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In post 570, shos wrote:No, no, it wasn't a part of the role PM, just part of th erules. everyone just forgot about it.
anyawy. we have TWO people who "forgot" to use their night actions, and this is suspicious as hell, and they are our today pool
Why would scum bother to mention that they 'forgot' rather than faking actual results?
It seems like an odd thing to do.-
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I am finding it odd that we have a flipped scum and no one really has said anything about his interaction. I dont get anything from his predecessor. Some things that I note from Xy though:
In post 511, shos wrote:Certainly willing to lynch aronis.
Are you sure? Aronis interactions with Xy really does not point to him being mafia in all honesty.
In post 486, Xkfyu wrote:In post 484, Aneninen wrote:In post 469, Xkfyu wrote:
Why are you trying to make me look scummy, regardless of whether I answer or not?
If I don't, then I look scummy for avoiding questions.
If I do, then it looks like I'm answering just because you called me out for it...which also looks scummy.
As for my Wiki, this!
Aneninen#The_Regardless_Of_Card
Aaaaaaaaaaand FINALLY, I've managed to use this tell in a situation I haven't been involved in directly.
Interesting. It appears that you and I have similar opinions on tells. Specifically, the Regardless of Card (though, I didn't know it already had a name) and the Unexpected Gamestall. Both of which, I've successfully used in finding scum.
Aronis is still my biggest Mafia read, and if it wasn't for the fact that Rory is basically guaranteed not to flip town, then I would prefer to lynch Aronis. How would you feel about lynching him in D2?
He pushed Aronis virtually all day. I don't see Aronis as being scum with our Xy. Do you think he was busing?
Ont that same vein:
In post 393, Espeonage wrote:On phone so I'll keep it succinct. Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that Xk is trying to strongarm himself in to a leader position? Because it feels fishy to me. Yarr's argument for Rory makes sense so I will probably compromise to there.
Unusual timing for such a statement had he been his scum partner. I don't think Espionage is a good direction to go either. There was a bit of back and fourth over 3dice as well that is making me lean away from that direction.
Xy's interactions with Aneninen are not sitting well with me. 486 (quoted above) feels forced and expletive of why they had similar reads without the actual need to say as much.
Also:
In post 282, Xkfyu wrote:In post 278, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 275, Randomnamechange wrote:
@droog we are getting no where with discussion and will probably hit town, we get a huge amount of night info that can help discussion. There's a reason this setup generally starts with day 0
No - period.
We have confirmed 3p. If there simply is not a better vote for this day then lynching the 3p is far better than a no-lynch.
Yeah, I agree with this. "Will probably hit town" is technically true (7:6 odds), but it's basically 50/50. So, to me, this looks like RM is trying to hard sell the no lynch, and I generally find hard sells scummy.
VOTE: randomidget
Town reads on Firebringer and Yarrr (posts are still annoying as shit though).
No read on Snarky, but figure he'll be sorted out through night actions, so not interested in lynching him. Same goes for Rory, really.
Everyone else is straight up null for me, right now.
Firebringer's town read seems strange here. I don't see why fire was town read at this point particularly over anyone else. All other null except fire and yarr. At least yarr had a reason to town read.
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In post 597, Yarrrrgami wrote:Be we forgettin' that aronis is still pretty clearly a scurvy-ridden scoundrel?
Though I wouldn't be surprised if one of the lazy deckhands who didn't report to the captain is the king o' scurvy.
Why is he so clear?
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In post 603, Randomnamechange wrote:That seemed kind of forced from FA_Q2.
This from the slot that has added essentially zip thus far - pushed a no lynch and hoped on the easy wagon. Now, trying to analyze the dead scum is 'forced.' What the fuck are we supposed to do to scum hunt - ignore the flip as you have clearly done?
I cant see a way that you are town at all.
VOTE: randomdigit
I don't like the aronis wagon for reasons that I already specified. Snowman is a likely 3p but I thought the general suspicion is that he is a jester. I think that fits his play thus far rather well. @Aronis, Aneninen - do you think Snowman is scum?
In post 651, 3dicerolling wrote:Sure he could be scum.
But right now I'm focused on the guy trying to "distraction control" aka policy lynch at this point in the game.
It's trash.
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It is unlikely but yes, there can be 2:
In post 2, Netherspite wrote:SETUP
The setup for this game consists of the following slots:
- Town Government
- Town Investigative
- Town Protective
- Town Killing or Power
- Town Random
- Town Random
- Town Random
- Godfather
- Mafia Support
- Mafia Deception
- Neutral Killing
- Neutral Evil or Benign
- Neutral Evil or Benign
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In post 665, Aneninen wrote:In post 663, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 603, Randomnamechange wrote:That seemed kind of forced from FA_Q2.
This from the slot that has added essentially zip thus far - pushed a no lynch and hoped on the easy wagon. Now, trying to analyze the dead scum is 'forced.' What the fuck are we supposed to do to scum hunt - ignore the flip as you have clearly done?
I cant see a way that you are town at all.
VOTE: randomdigit
I don't think Randomidget's scum. Partly because of Xk's interactions with him.
In post 663, FA_Q2 wrote:@Aronis, Aneninen - do you think Snowman is scum?
Either scum or Jester. I can imagine him as Xk's partner but, obviously, as Jester he'd definitely do scummy things. And he's done quite a few...
My lynchpool right now consists of
Snowman
Aronis
Druuge
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Mod, Aronis is in the prod zone.
If you think he is likely a jester then why are you voting for him? Scum will let us lynch him and then we lose another townie on top of it.-
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In post 725, 3dicerolling wrote:pagetop
LOL
That was fucking wonderful. I am almost ready to lynch Aronis just because he is the most annoying player I have had to deal with in a long damn time. This is getting old rather fast.-
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In post 712, Aneninen wrote:In post 693, 3dicerolling wrote:Yes aneninen, spongebob is more urgent than droog.
But also, I have super strong feeling espeonage is scum.
I've examined Esp's iso only to find... that he's doing nothing.
10 players. 5 of them are not town. You're right; I wouldn't put him amongst the four townies.
So, if needed I'd consolidate on him eagerly. (And time passes, while we're doing almost nothing.)
In post 701, 3dicerolling wrote:Aronis you are the worst jester ever.
If he's a Jester. And that's the problem.
If he's still alive on Day3 he should be lynched.
In post 703, SnarkySnowman wrote:Can anyone who's actually putting thought into this game please tell me why shos isn't scum and why I'm wrong?
Read the game.
Oh wait, you're not doing that. You just want to get rid of someone dangerous, don't you?
In post 708, Randomnamechange wrote:VOTE: shos
I'm not seeing any better options than this really. I actually agree with the points Snarky is making.
Your vote is bad and you should feel bad.
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So, here's what I think.
Shos, Randomidget, FAQ – I'd call these town. (From the strongest to the weakest.)
Snowman, Druuge, Aronis, Espeonage. – I don't think any of these are town. (From the strongest to the weakest. Either of Snowman or Aronis can be Jester, that'swhy I'm not voting for them now.)
Assuming I'm right, the two conflicted players are 3dice and Yarrgami. At the beginning of the Day I'd have said Yarrgami's the 5th townie, however, 3dice's posts have been getting better whereas Yarrgami's posts on Day2 have seemed to be different to the ones he posted Yesterday. (I don't think they're Mafia, but some third-party could be possible.)
If there's Cult, the situation may be much worse.
Why rando town?
He has done nothing at all other than jumping on random wagons. He has costed harder than Esp who you are reading non-town.-
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In post 747, Yarrrrgami wrote:also ANOTHER THING.
it pisses me off to no end that aronis will live forever and be allowed to get away with crap play. that is the number 1 thing that has been frustrating me about mafia and it is why I need a break. cos I remember a time where he wld have been sped lynched and not allowed to get away with it.
Was jester a prevalent role in those games/times?
Normally he would have been lynched. There is a real possibility that such an action is anti-town though. I fear that we may be seriously lacking killing roles though and that might be an issue dealing with jesters...-
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In post 764, Aneninen wrote:His Day1 doesn't fit that picture. But, even if I'm wrong about this, he'll never be able to get Shos lynched. So we needn't worry.
I don't care weather or not he can get shos lynched - the point was I think snarky is a safe lynch should we not agree to go for someone that is more likely to be scum.
The lyncher would not want to be blatantly obvious on day 1 IMHO. The death tunnel on shos just does not make sense from his other play. This is somewhat setup spec though so that is all I am likely to say on the subject.-
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In post 773, Yarrrrgami wrote:In post 760, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 747, Yarrrrgami wrote:also ANOTHER THING.
it pisses me off to no end that aronis will live forever and be allowed to get away with crap play. that is the number 1 thing that has been frustrating me about mafia and it is why I need a break. cos I remember a time where he wld have been sped lynched and not allowed to get away with it.
Was jester a prevalent role in those games/times?
Normally he would have been lynched. There is a real possibility that such an action is anti-town though. I fear that we may be seriously lacking killing roles though and that might be an issue dealing with jesters...
there is always the chance of a jester in any closed themed game.
Is there? I thought jester was not a normal role.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jester
It is normally considered a bastard role. In general, there is literally zero reason to suspect a jester in a standard closed setup. Your reasoning here is incredibly specious. You also act as though you really pushed for his lynch when I really do not see that in your ISO.
what I am not liking is that it is being treated as a probability rather than the possibility that it actually is. and aronis doesn't dislike me and I don't dislike aronis but lately when he has rolled scum he keeps trying to pl me.
I HOPE we have a vig and they do their vig mojo and vig aronis.
@ anem
when I say scum, I mean mafia I do NOT mean indies cos indies are not scum no matter how much like to marginalize that entire alignment. and I am sick to death of having to explain this shit.
and textbook jestering is spamming the thread until pple will do nearly anything to get rid of you or deliberately dropping a "scumslip" that pple will zealously pursue to the ends of the earth. none of that is what aronis is doing and he strikes me as cheeky scum.
Endlessly spamming the thread seems like exactly what he is doing.
I really wish you guys wld let me sort espy first before you ram his lynch through, espy isn't afraid to post as scum so I dunno. I can't sort him if he is not present in the game.
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I still do not see a case on him.
At this point I am FAR more likely to lynch you then shos. Why should I lynch the claimed detective over the one trying to blankly lynch him with the only reason thus far that 'he already has votes.' Even more so considering that you seem to have solid logic in other places but have not shared such logic on why shos is scum.
In post 857, SnarkySnowman wrote:Lynch me if you want but shos has to die first.
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In post 842, shos wrote:it *supports* him being a jester, and well, his PLAY makes him a jester.
There is no scum role that goes nowhere.
MM probably doesn't go nowhere.
same goes for arsonist.
it's either survivor or jester, and if he's a survivor, he's playing like shit, because he's really close to being killed just because, I think
It does not really support that theory. Roles that might skip 'visiting' someone:
Town Citizen
Town Mason
Town Crier
Town Mayor
Town Marshall
Town Spy
Town Veteran
Mafia Godfather
Mafia Kidnapper
Judge
Survivor
Jester
Lyncher
Amnesiac
^ all roles that are likely or guaranteed to have visited no one.-
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In post 861, SnarkySnowman wrote:In post 859, FA_Q2 wrote:In post 857, SnarkySnowman wrote:Lynch me if you want but shos has to die first.
Not a chance.
What's your suggestion then? Lynch me? Because, not a chance to that.
That is a viable option.
I am willing to lynch snarky, Aronis, rando and possibly ranger depending on the next few pages.-
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In post 940, Aristophanes wrote:
I already went and lyncher I'd dead. What even are you saying??In post 939, SnarkySnowman wrote:Lyncher on shos. Aristo next
Technically there is a possibility for 2 lynchers in this setup though it is unlikely. Snarky has been all over the damn place though and nothing he says is even worth reading.-
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In post 955, shos wrote:lol snarky
keep trying
FA_Q2, I've claimed like years ago, I'm a detective, and Aronis went nowhere N1, Snarky went nowhere N2.
Crap that's right. Aronis then.-
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In post 957, shos wrote:Why would we do that? Lynching aronis would randomly kill a person on the wagon, and we know snarky is not scum.
You have made the false assumption that he is a jester. There is nothing that makes that a fact. Many of us have pointed this out to you multiple times and yet you continue to tunnel on this.
In post 958, shos wrote:Like, that post alone makes me want to lynch you, it's a horrible decision
That post makes you want to lynch the only MOD confirmed town?
That hurts.-
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In post 961, 3dicerolling wrote:In post 958, shos wrote:Like, that post alone makes me want to lynch you, it's a horrible decision
VOTE: shos
If we want to lynch shos then I say take out snarky first - he has not been helpful in any manner whatsoever.-
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In post 936, Aristophanes wrote:
Then I'll start.In post 935, 3dicerolling wrote:We haven't yet, but should
Town investigative.
Popcorn to you since you seem to be around.
Full claim aristo with results.-
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In post 956, Randomnamechange wrote:It's decided then. We lynch, aronis, snarky, aristophanes.
No, it really isn't decided. Why aristo? Aronis and snarky are a good start - possibly scum hiding behind 3p claims.-
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randomidget - CONFIRMED town marshall
FA_Q2 - Crier
shos - Detective
- Aronis whent nowhere N1
- Snarky went nowhere N2
Aristophanes - Investigative ?
3dicerolling - Protective?
Aneninen - Killing?
Aronis - ?????
SnarkySnowman - Bullshit
Category claiming here is pointless as there is an open random slot (as I or random must be one of the three random slots and rory was also a random slot). The PR roles can be virtually anything. Considering that we have 2 players who claims are extremely untrustworthy, trying to narrow the possibilities down with category claiming is rather silly. We should be full claiming with targets as we need the maximum information possible to base 3 lynches on. This will make or break the game for us.-
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In post 976, 3dicerolling wrote:Why haven't you cried at all FA?
Because it gives the town zero info (anything I could have cried I could have done so during the day) and it confers info to scum (that one of the town is a crier). I don't see a single benefit in the ability at all except to confirm what I am tomorrow. I was going to sent an action in last night in preparation of a mass claim today but after seeking clarification on how the role works I found that I would have had my message broadcast before all the night actions were in.
All that would have accomplished is give scum an easy town lynch. I really have no idea how a crier can be utilized in a pro town manner in this particular setup.-
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In post 997, 3dicerolling wrote:In post 996, Randomnamechange wrote:Everyone who isn't me or FA should vote Aronis rn. This is optimal play.
Anen should not either.
This is a good point. Anen is confirmed town (and the most valuable town at this point).-
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Claim now.-
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In post 988, shos wrote:why are you not straight up claiming? O_o
DA_Q2 will be conftown once he proves his abiliy, regardless of what happens in the game. he is not a lynch for today.
As counted, at least one of {Aronis, Snarky} is lying scum. I'm going to guess it is Snarky. if not, well, bummer, but we surely don't want to lynch a jester right now so it's best if we lynch snarky first anyway. if Snarky flips scum, we don't need to lynch Aronis, and we're in a really goot state.
This does not really work - the flip is not going to happen until all 3 lynches have been made. We have to select all 3 before we get any info on the flips themselves.-
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The jester kills one on its wagon. You do not want confirmed town on that wagon because it might kill a confirmed town.
You are not only confirmed town but quite possibly the best PR we have in play at the moment. No reason to risk yourself for the lynch.-
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Something that I think we have missed...
Town Government
Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing or Power
Town Random
Town Random
Town Random
Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception
Neutral Killing
Neutral Evil or Benign
Neutral Evil or Benign
This is the list of roles in the game. Bus driver can be a town Protective OR Town Power role. The power role and killing role occupies the SAME TOWN SLOT. IOW, anen isconfirmed town.NOT-
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In post 980, shos wrote:(note that I pu 4 randoms there)
Looks like from the claims, we can:
1. confirm Anen as town power/killing.
2. know that either Aronis or Snarky are lying, which means the plan to lynch both today is actually good
3. there are conflicts between {me & Aristo} and {3dr , firebringer}.
SO
if we lynch ARONIS and SNARKY we have 1 scum dead for sure, and the other is neutral, so we're good and left with six alive, of which one is scum:
{random, [/b]anen[/b],}
{3dr}
{shos, aristo}
{FAQ2}.
scum roleblocker is dead, so FA_Q2 will confirm himself at night.
say we lynch 3dr. if he is scum we win. if not, we know he was a random, so there's only one random left, between me and aristo, and come morning we have 4p mylo
With the above, this post makes me uneasy :/-
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