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Because you didn't catch anything.-
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In post 55, Polar Vortex wrote:Guys, guys, guys, we have an announcment. We are an ascetic. Had to claim so people wouldn't lose time using powers on us in the night
Did you tell us this because you thought that not hiding it would make you seem more like town?-
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In post 59, Polar Vortex wrote:In post 57, BlackStar wrote:In post 55, Polar Vortex wrote:Guys, guys, guys, we have an announcment. We are an ascetic. Had to claim so people wouldn't lose time using powers on us in the night
Did you tell us this because you thought that not hiding it would make you seem more like town?
Did you read the post? Because the answer is very explicitly in there.
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@BBT I don't like when they become big really quickly. It feels unnatural. I know at dominator voted himself, but it still seemed weird that he got 4 votes in like 10 minutes. And then when I unvoted you all jumped on my wagon without being able to explain why you think I was being scummy. You actually still haven't done that, BBT.-
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Nah. It's not stalling progression. Because I unvoted, we moved out of RVS and people started asking serious questions. And it's not like I did it with the purpose of "stalling progression". Town and scum both do that, accidentally and on purpose, so it's weird how you were immediately like "yeah, we definitely need to lynch him". You have literally no reason to feel so strongly about lynching me. It feels forced-
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In post 148, Code of Honor wrote:In post 146, Polar Vortex wrote:In post 145, BlackStar wrote:There are 6 people voting him. At least 2 of them have to be scum
Have to? I'm pretty sure no statistics will tell you this. I'd expect one scum on the wagon personally.
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Same here, and that's basically regardless of DK's alignment.
In fact, if DK is town, then, given the ease in which town has obviously voted them, it's more beneficial for scum to be OFF the wagon, than on.
I'd only expect there to be more than one scum on the wagon if DK actually flipped scum.
It's too early for pre-flip associations, so let's just lynch him so it's no longer pre-flip.
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In post 147, Code of Honor wrote:In post 145, BlackStar wrote:There are 6 people voting him. At least 2 of them have to be scum
Well, you've already gone from "a few," down to 2.
If you believe that there are 2 scum on their wagon though, then that means you believe that there are 4 town on their wagon. But your original reasoning for believing that DK is town was how fast their wagon formed. So, something isn't adding up.
It sounds to me like, before, you were saying that their wagon formed so quickly because a bunch of scum quickly voted for him. But now, you are saying that only 2 are voting for him, but you still believe he's town for the same reasons?
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In post 154, MagnaofIllusion wrote:In post 46, BlackStar wrote:I also don't like how you've been trying to rush us out of RVS. Especially on a flimsy reason like this.
In post 126, BlackStar wrote:Nah. It's not stalling progression.Because I unvoted, we moved out of RVS and people started asking serious questions.And it's not like I did it with the purpose of "stalling progression". Town and scum both do that, accidentally and on purpose, so it's weird how you were immediately like "yeah, we definitely need to lynch him". You have literally no reason to feel so strongly about lynching me. It feels forced
Hey Blackstar - if you could explain why you didn't like someone rushing us out of RVS while then explaining how your unvote did just that it would be great!
I didn't want us to rush out of RVS. But it happened anyway because you guys find everything scummy. It's pretty straight forward-
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In post 166, Polar Vortex wrote:In post 165, BlackStar wrote:In post 154, MagnaofIllusion wrote:In post 46, BlackStar wrote:I also don't like how you've been trying to rush us out of RVS. Especially on a flimsy reason like this.
In post 126, BlackStar wrote:Nah. It's not stalling progression.Because I unvoted, we moved out of RVS and people started asking serious questions.And it's not like I did it with the purpose of "stalling progression". Town and scum both do that, accidentally and on purpose, so it's weird how you were immediately like "yeah, we definitely need to lynch him". You have literally no reason to feel so strongly about lynching me. It feels forced
Hey Blackstar - if you could explain why you didn't like someone rushing us out of RVS while then explaining how your unvote did just that it would be great!
I didn't want us to rush out of RVS. But it happened anyway because you guys find everything scummy. It's pretty straight forward
Why do you think DK thought you hated RVS?
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In post 186, Polar Vortex wrote:DK. Give us reads. Town, scum, whatever, reads.-
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In post 261, MagnaofIllusion wrote:In post 232, FA_Q2 wrote:^ also want to ask why avoid my points on BBT entirely? If my focus there was so noteworthy you would think the logic there would at least merit a statement.
If you are talking about 207 I think you don’t really have a leg to stand on. Policy lynching is not alignment indicative. And I think you are stretching that there is much in the way of scum motivation for his response. In fact given he was under little pressure at the time the fact BBT went out of his way to be quasi-antagonistic doesn’t strike me as very likely scum motivated. The negative reaction it seems to have garnered I’d say if he’s scum it was a pretty stupid move. And while I have limited experience reading BBT what I have read says he’s not stupid.
In post 238, BlackStar wrote:VOTE: polarvortex
I will lynch this if there is momentum this way. This is the third ding on my radar Blackstar has made.
In post 212, Dragon Knight wrote:Ok, I'm 100% for lynching Jeanne. Lurking is a scum tell for her, so fmpov, we've just caught a scum 100%.
VOTE: Jeanne11
Let's lynch lurkers right away, and don't let them reach endgame where the waters are muddied.
So you just threw a hissy fit when you got a wagon for what you perceived to be no reasons / policy reasons. And your next move is to push a policy lynch for meta reasons as opposed to looking at all the people on your supposedly terrible wagon?
Do you feel with your claim keeping you alive today you want to continue to be scummy?
In post 223, TheDominator37 wrote:Don't like this post. Almost feels as if it is a chainsaw defense
I don’t like this post. Almost feels like a chainsaw defense of FAQ2. See how pointless that sort of statement is?
Do you think FA has solid points on BBT?
In post 230, PhantomCobalt wrote:He plays like a person I know when they're scum
Funny you are playing just like someone I know who plays that was as scum. You must be scum also!
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In post 273, Polar Vortex wrote:Magna, how much of your scum read on Blackstar could be easily explained by him being a bad town player? That would be my read at this point.
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In post 277, Code of Honor wrote:In post 274, BlackStar wrote:In post 273, Polar Vortex wrote:Magna, how much of your scum read on Blackstar could be easily explained by him being a bad town player? That would be my read at this point.
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I'm not bad.
I wouldn't say you're bad either, but some of the things you say are way off the mark, from a logical standpoint (your conclusion as to how many scum were on the DK wagon, for example).
I gotta think you're probably town here, though. I remember you doing a lot of the same things in NY 193 as town.
I also disagree with your vote on Polar Vortex. What are your thoughts on them? Basically, the only post of theirs that I didn't like was their first one where they over-explained their reasoning for claiming ascetic.
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I just wanted to see how he'd react, but he hasn't said anything about it-
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In post 289, Polar Vortex wrote:In post 282, BlackStar wrote:@masquerade I don't have a read on him. That's why I voted him. To see if I could get a better read. That's not gonna happen now though.
UNVOTE:
What reaction would you have liked?
Any reaction-
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In post 287, Dragon Knight wrote:Let's fry Jeanne. Lurk=scumtell, and we should never let a lurker reach D3, if we can help it. It only helps scum.
I don't like it when people lurk either, but some people could make the argument that this post is a cop out because you don't have any reads-
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In post 305, Jeanne11 wrote:I am a PR that is close to DK's claim. Oh, and for emphasis, I saidclose to itnotsame as it
Why are you saying this now?-
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In post 328, Dragon Knight wrote:The niches in which they operate are completely different. You can't replace a cop with a watcher in a game and call it balanced. Tracker or Rolecop, maybe, but definitely not watcher.
Anyways, enough setup speculation. Hmm, let's comment on...Nothing. There's nothing Jeanne has given that's worth commenting on. Well, that's scummy.
You're trying way too hard, man...-
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In post 343, The Banterlords wrote:In post 341, TheDominator37 wrote:In post 337, The Banterlords wrote:In post 270, TheDominator37 wrote:Dwlee where's my boy KT?
Dieing of school and swim team
mostly swim team
oh yea, I'm catching up right now
~KT
I have school robotics 2 different bands and homework and yet I still have time for this. Pls KT
you don't have swim practice 5 days a week and every day it leaves you so sore you need to rest eat dinner and go to sleep
I used to have swim practice. I only felt sore for the first 2 weeks and then I felt completely fine after each practice.-
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Because as a member of the town, claiming for no reason on day 1 doesn't help anyone. It makes you an easy target for scum. If Jeanne really has a pr, the why would she put herself at risk so early on before she could even get a result? And it's suspicious that Jeanne only showed up after people started talking about lynching them.-
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In post 363, Polar Vortex wrote:-
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In post 413, Dragon Knight wrote:In post 412, BlackStar wrote:What's so bad about it?
You go from saying "hmm, I doubt that Jeanne is town, which means DK is probably town" to naked voting us. Yeah, stop sucking or die.
I never said you were town though-
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In post 421, Dragon Knight wrote:In post 420, BlackStar wrote:In post 413, Dragon Knight wrote:In post 412, BlackStar wrote:What's so bad about it?
You go from saying "hmm, I doubt that Jeanne is town, which means DK is probably town" to naked voting us. Yeah, stop sucking or die.
I never said you were town though
So you were thinking scum theatre. Which happens how often? Oh yeah, never.
I was null on you. I still am. Your overreaction is weird though-
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In post 426, Masquerade wrote:In post 416, Polar Vortex wrote:I really think we should look at Dom hard. He's done absolutely nothing towny. Neither has Jeanne, but at least she's replaced and maybe the replacement will be better. Also, DK could be helpful with the role
While I agree with you about Dom, the experience I have with him is kinda this. I think he'd be a good investigative target.
I'd like people to unvote jeanne, because I'm sure Ranger has some thoughts she wants to add.
Hi Ranger! Did you replace into a town-slot? I hope you did.
In post 419, The Banterlords wrote:masquerade, having found your main may ask why you need an alt?
~Dwlee
First, I'd appreciate it if you kept my main to yourself Second, I'd rather not say because that defeats the entire purpose of my alt.
In post 422, Dragon Knight wrote:You're voting a cop claim on D1. Either you're stupid or you're scum. Which is it?
And you're voting a tracker-claim. Tell me how Blackstar is being bad.
@Blackstar:Why are you voting a null-read that claimed cop?
They jump on every opportunity to try and join the biggest wagons. They're just so eager to see anyone but themselves get lynched. It makes me uneasy.-
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Mind explaining this?-
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In post 435, Dragon Knight wrote:
I'm convinced you're either stupid or you're going for WIFOM,"too scummy to be scum"
Where do you see that? And how does any of that warrant a vote?-
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In post 443, Ranger wrote:
Very much so, yes. Of course, my role happens to be ill-suited for my slot (it's not a role which meshes well with my typical play), but I would prefer not being forced to claim all the same.Masquerade wrote:Hi Ranger! Did you replace into a town-slot? I hope you did.
Btw, from what I've seen so far: I've picked up that apparently, BlackStar is a tracker.
I believe the role. I don't believe he's town.
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In post 503, Masquerade wrote:Well BBT isn't really around so all Faq basically would be able to do is repeat what he's been saying before.
I don't know why people are so hung up over my DK-vote. It's gone already and now I'm voting Blackstar.
I can see why people think scourge is distant, I don't know if that makes them scum though. Because I kind of recognize myself in there. I didn't really find anything of big concern in their iso, maybe that should be a concern?
Faq, you're back to null because you weren't overly defensive when I was voting you. I don't know what you mean with this:
In post 485, FA_Q2 wrote:tried to bet BBT to put up a case for you
All I can think of that might have triggered you to ask this is me asking BBT to ask me some questions. I did that because I know if BBT is town his questions help me get focus. He asks things that I forget to think about.
I thought I explained my vote on Blackstar already but turns out I didn't.
In post 429, BlackStar wrote:They jump on every opportunity to try and join the biggest wagons. They're just so eager to see anyone but themselves get lynched. It makes me uneasy.
This is not true. There is some votehopping at the start and the only major wagons we had were on DK and jeanne and DK has consistently pushed jeanne/Ranger ever since they were wagoned. 5 posts before that one, Bs said DK was a nullread. At this stage of the game I think he should have stronger reads and shouldn't have to still naked-vote null-reads to get a better read on them. It feels like he's trying to look like he's scumhunting but he really isn't.
If you look back at all of my games you'll see that I suck at scum hunting-
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In post 523, Masquerade wrote:In post 511, BlackStar wrote:If you look back at all of my games you'll see that I suck at scum hunting
I played with you before and this time I think you suck because you're scum.
You said jeanne looked scummy, yet you never voted her. You did vote several null-reads though so it's not like you're hesitant with your votes either. You were actually defending her when DK started pushing her, see 300, 329, 360.
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In post 523, Masquerade wrote:In post 511, BlackStar wrote:If you look back at all of my games you'll see that I suck at scum hunting
I played with you before and this time I think you suck because you're scum.
You said jeanne looked scummy, yet you never voted her. You did vote several null-reads though so it's not like you're hesitant with your votes either. You were actually defending her when DK started pushing her, see 300, 329, 360.
Just looked at those first 2 posts that you linked. I wasn't defending Jeanne lol. I was pointing out the sketchiness of those posts by DK-
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