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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:56 am

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Btw, from what I've seen so far: I've picked up that apparently, BlackStar is a tracker.
This was a mistake. Masquerade said Dragon Knight was voting a tracker claim, and I was under the mistaken impression they were voting BlackStar, ergo, BlackStar = tracker.

Apparently, my role was already outed. Watcher, not tracker. It's a very bad fit for me because I'm typically the one who needs to be watched.

Dragon Knight wrote:Two being shos replaces Jeanne with Ranger.
Apparently, shos was hasty with my replacement. I specifically looked at the playerlist and saw your name in it and
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So if you want to leave because of me: don't. Ask the mod to have me leave instead. Until then, I'll be trying to get some content for the slot other than the claim.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:58 am

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In post 446, Ranger wrote:{TheDominator, The Banterlords, BlueBloodedToffee}
{Dragon Knight, Code of Honor, PhantomCobalt}
{BlackStar}

One.

VOTE: BlackStar.

I do not understand this post at all. Can you explain?
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:59 am

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{TheDominator, The Banterlords, BlueBloodedToffee}
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:59 am

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since you guys post so much, I'm going to have to make a VC here, in the middle of nowhere, not even a pagetop


Aaaand pagetop for VC


Deadline is in
(expired on 2016-04-24 00:01:11).


With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes for a lynch.


VC 1.4
Votecount #1.4


BlueBloodedToffee
(1) - FA_Q2.
The Banterlords
(0) -
FA_Q2
(1) - BlueBloodedToffee.
Dragon Knight
(1) - BlackStar.
BlackStar
(3) - MagnaOfIllusion, Masquerade, Ranger.
Code of Honor
(0) -
Ranger
(2) - Dragon Knight, TheDominator37.
Masquerade
(0) -
PhantomCobalt
(0) -
TheDominator37
(2) - PhantomCobalt, Polar Vortex.
MagnaofIllusion
(0) -
Polar Vortex
(0) -
A Real Scourge
(0) -

NOT VOTING (3) - Code Of Honor, A Real Scourge, The Banterlords.


NOTICE:

1. Ranger replaced Jeanne11.
2. MagnaOfIllusion is V/LA until tomorrow (Monday).
3. @: Stop trying to play mod. I do what I deem necessary. Prod-dodges are not acceptable, regardless of anything. But what a prod-dodge is is MY decision.
4. Code Of Honor is a hydra, one of whose heads is V/LA. As such, the other head is expected to keep posting, and this results in them being officially prodded.
5. @: See above.
6. PhantomCobalt was prodded for the first time for prod-dodging.

In post 400, Dragon Knight wrote:Mod hasn't had any problem with it as of yet.

7. This is an official warning. Don't test me for any rule. Sign your posts. If I'm busy and don't notice rule breaking, modkills will happen.
8. FA_Q2 was prodded for the first time.
9. @: This has been addressed above. Any further rulebreaking will result in immediate force replace/modkill.
10. @: If you don't want to play in my game, replace the fuck out. You may complain, but be polite. You can't expect me to sit tight by the computer and be able to follow on every single post immediately. Phantom has been prodded, once. Jeanne has earned officially three prods and then went V/LA. If you want to banter, do it in a PM.
11. TheDominator37 has been prodded. This is a first prod.
Spoiler: not quite game related
Re: Ranger and FB:
While the PM did mention FB, its phrasing did not specify some anger between you two, or perhaps it is my english lacking. If this is a problem, please tell me, im PMs, and we'll see how to move on. If this happens, 2 days will be added to the deadline.
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:01 am

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Can I explain, yes.

Will I, only conditional on, one, me staying, and two, me getting fully caught up.
Neither condition is, as of right now, certain.

And I'm dead serious. I'm not going to be the reason Firebringer replaces out. If he wants to replace out because I came in, then I'll replace out instead because I specifically told shos I was only coming in IF Firebringer was okay with it and Firebringer is, apparently, not okay with it.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:02 am

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What does that have to do with your read list?
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:04 am

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BlackStar wrote:What does that have to do with your read list?
Getting caught up takes priority over explaining reads.

And there's no point in me explaining my reads if my replace-in lasts literally less than a day.

That's why both conditions have to be true.
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:05 am

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Just stay Ranger, I don't care.
I am just not playing in a shos game again.

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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:06 am

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If the reasoning behind your reads sounds genuine then we can believe that your slot is really town. But if it doesn't sound genuine or you refuse to give the reasoning, then you'll just seem scummy. So you explaining your reads will benefit or hurt the person who replaces in after you
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:07 am

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{TheDominator, The Banterlords, BlueBloodedToffee}
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{Dragon Knight, Code of Honor, A Real Scourge, Polar Vortex}
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{BlackStar}

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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:07 am

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DS is telling me to be calm and not act rash by replacing out, even when I point out the facts. This game was supposed to be just fun, now I am taking it actually serious and not having any. Going to take a sidestep from the game for awhile. Consider Dragon AFK.

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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:09 am

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{TheDominator, The Banterlords, BlueBloodedToffee}
{FA_Q2, Dragon Knight}
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{PhantomCobalt}
{BlackStar}

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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:13 am

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{TheDominator, The Banterlords, BlueBloodedToffee, Dragon Knight}
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{Code of Honor, A Real Scourge, Polar Vortex}
{PhantomCobalt}
{BlackStar, MagnaofIllusion}

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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:13 am

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Thanks for only readlists and not actually content. Yep, you're scum.

VOTE: Ranger if mod wants us to revote this.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:14 am

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Dragon Knight wrote:Thanks for only readlists and not actually content.
I'm not caught up yet, now, am I?

The "am staying" condition is true.

The "caught up" one I'm working on.
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:17 am

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{TheDominator, The Banterlords, BlueBloodedToffee, Dragon Knight}
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{Code of Honor, Polar Vortex}
{PhantomCobalt, A Real Scourge}
{BlackStar, MagnaofIllusion}

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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:19 am

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{TheDominator, The Banterlords, BlueBloodedToffee, Dragon Knight, FA_Q2}
{Code of Honor, Polar Vortex}
{PhantomCobalt, A Real Scourge}
{BlackStar, MagnaofIllusion}

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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:23 am

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{TheDominator, The Banterlords, BlueBloodedToffee, Dragon Knight, FA_Q2}
{Masquerade}
{Code of Honor, Polar Vortex}
{PhantomCobalt}
{A Real Scourge, BlackStar}
{MagnaofIllusion}

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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:24 am

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Whoops. Meant to include this:
VOTE: MagnaofIllusion.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:27 am

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{TheDominator, The Banterlords, BlueBloodedToffee, Dragon Knight, FA_Q2}
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{Polar Vortex}
{Code of Honor}
{PhantomCobalt, BlackStar}
{A Real Scourge}
{MagnaofIllusion}

13.

For reference: that's never-touching-town, townread, nulltown, null, nullscum, scum,
seriously
scum.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:32 am

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A VC at the top of this page has been updated, with lots of notices (?!). Please read them.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:32 am

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{TheDominator, The Banterlords, BlueBloodedToffee, Dragon Knight, FA_Q2}
{Masquerade, Polar Vortex}
{Code of Honor}
{PhantomCobalt, BlackStar}
{A Real Scourge}
{MagnaofIllusion}

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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:49 am

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Right.

Caught up.

I'll do full reads only on request (as in, literally, just ask about any single read and I'll elaborate on that one read; don't ask for them all because I'll flat-out refuse), but the cliffnotes:
{TheDominator, The Banterlords, BlueBloodedToffee, Dragon Knight, FA_Q2}
{Masquerade, Polar Vortex}
{Code of Honor}
{PhantomCobalt, BlackStar}
{A Real Scourge}
{MagnaofIllusion}

TheDominator is a chronic lurker. He plays this way every game, town or scum. A lynch there would be for policy reasons alone, and have objectively no better chances of hitting scum than random lynching. It would also give no information whatsoever. The reason I have TheDominator as such a strong townread, however, is that in spite of his lack of content, I still got strong town vibes from his early posting.

The Banterlords was a bit of an iffy read at first: there was some town stuff, and some not so town stuff. But the more I read, the better their logic looked. Not necessarily
right
, but looking like it came from a town player. BlueBloodedToffee has this even stronger: a decent (but not rock-solid) start, which later posts make even better. I love basically everything he's done.

Dragon Knight was hard to get an initial read on, but I felt the AtE around the claim was incredibly genuine.

FA_Q2 is a townread for very solid pushes in very good areas. This is similar for the SnowStorm head of Polar Vortex, but Bearbert D's posts keep them from being in the top-tier because I have quite a bit less love for them. Masquerade looks town, but isn't as solid in his positions as my strong townreads.

Code of Honor is basically dead null. I can't get a grip on Titus one way or another. I
want
to say town, but I simply can't say that with confidence.

PhantomCobalt is playing closer to his scum meta than his town meta, but it's difficult to be sure; he plays similarly to TheDominator, in that he's an absolute minimalist and chronic active lurker. Unlike TheDominator, I did not get town vibes from his early posting.

BlackStar was an initial scumread, because I hated his entrance into the game. However, his later content actually looked good. I have mixed feelings about his latest content: on the one hand, it looks bad, on the other, I don't think scum would actually be seriously pushing for a Dragon Knight lynch on D1. So, overall, could be scum, but not definitely scum.

A Real Scourge started out looking decent, but the more I saw, the more Scourge's posting stuck out like a sore thumb. Similarly, MagnaofIllusion is playing
exactly
the same way Red Coyote did in Twin Peaks. It's textbook scum play. That level of objective distance allows for him to push stances which are logically sound, but which will result in a town player being lynched. His entire iso is basically one long scum claim.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:08 am

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aww come on I had magna as town.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:17 am

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The Banterlords wrote:aww come on I had magna as town.
That's because he's saying words you want to hear.

Doesn't make him any less scum, though!
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