Mini 1795: Science [GAME OVER]

[Ranger]

Hi there.
UNVOTE: Kuroi
Not the best vote to have outsanding.
I'll cast a new one soonish.

[Ranger]

{GuyWhoseSlotIAlmostTook, Cabd}
{Fire Assassin, Traveling Salesman}
{JavaJoe}
{SirCakez, SheldonCooper}
1.

[Ranger]

{Kuroi}
{GuyWhoseSlotIAlmostTook, Cabd, Aneninen}
{Fire Assassin, Traveling Salesman}
{JavaJoe}
{SirCakez, SheldonCooper}
2.

[Ranger]

{Kuroi}
{GuyWhoseSlotIAlmostTook, Cabd, Aneninen}
{Fire Assassin, JavaJoe}
{Traveling Salesman}
{SirCakez, SheldonCooper}
4.

[Ranger]

{Kuroi, Javajoe}
{chilledtea}
{GuyWhoseSlotIAlmostTook, Cabd, Aneninen}
{Fire Assassin}
{Traveling Salesman}
{SirCakez, SheldonCooper}
5.

[Ranger]

Oh.
I replaced a RadiantCowbells alt.
That explains a few things.
Also increases my workload. I was flat-out skipping my predecessor's posts along with those of the dead, but now I actually have to

listen

to what he says.

I do think {SirCakez, Traveling Salesmen} has a very realistic chance of being scum though.
VOTE: SirCakez.[/b]
6.

[Ranger]

{Kuroi, Javajoe}
{chilledtea}
{GuyWhoseSlotIAlmostTook, Cabd, Aneninen}
{Fire Assassin}
{SheldonCooper}
{SirCakez, Traveling Salesman}
This is more accurate. 7.

[Ranger]

{Kuroi, Javajoe, chilledtea}
{GuyWhoseSlotIAlmostTook, Cabd, Aneninen}
{Fire Assassin}
{SheldonCooper}
{SirCakez, Traveling Salesman}
9.

[Ranger]

Did I vote yet?
I feel like I haven't.
VOTE: Traveling Salesman.

[Ranger]

{Kuroi, Javajoe, chilledtea}
{GuyWhoseSlotIAlmostTook}
{Cabd, Aneninen}
{Fire Assassin}
{SheldonCooper}
{SirCakez, Traveling Salesman}
12.

[Ranger]

I strongly think Meeseeks is a planned mislynch by some scums.

You would be right.

I strongly advise you to look back with the benefit of time and wisdom and see who, exactly, the stronger pushers of that wagon were.
{Kuroi, Javajoe, chilledtea, Aneninen}
{GuyWhoseSlotIAlmostTook}
{Cabd}
{Fire Assassin}
{SheldonCooper}
{SirCakez, Traveling Salesman}
13.

[Ranger]

im an ally of good times.

Liar.
If you were an ally of good times, then the Entropy scumteam would be publicly outed by you because if Entropy won, then we wouldn't have the energy for good times.

;)

[Ranger]

but also... I think their gameplay could be very similar with any alignment.

On that note, when I replaced into this game in part because of ~reasons~ that I'm not sure yet whether are public or not (I THINK they are but I'm not absolutely sure so I'm not gonna mention them by name until I actually see them in-thread and confirm that, yes, they are), I'm taking two stances.
One, moderator meta is going to be an indispensable asset this game.
Two, and this one's harder to explain. I got a very, VERY strong, overwhelming gut feeling (like I said,

partially

for ~reasons~, but not entirely) that told me: "Do not attempt to meta any player this game. It is a trap. No. Seriously.

Do not attempt to meta any player this game.

It is a trap.

" It's kind-of difficult to explain how I got that feeling, it's just sort-of there, where I feel like meta this game will horrendously,

horrendously

mislead us. Like maybe "scum are deliberately being self-conscious of their meta", or getting coached, or something, I don't know why, I just had that strong sensation meta would be a Very Bad Idea.

So all of my reads right now are made entirely throwing meta out the window. To be frank, they might be completely inverted if I

were

to use meta, but off of what I see, purely in

this

game thread, literally throwing out all my player experience and discarding those games as worthless, I've gotten the reads I have. Partially off of gut, with it just feeling like scum. Partially off of how they interact with each other, looking like scum-scum interactions.

The sad part is, I won't be able to explain this. One, I'm having a little bit of trouble getting caught up right now. It's hard keeping my focus on the game, because it's a little bit laborious. Two, even if I do get caught up, I just replaced into this game whereas there are other places that I owe a much stronger commitment to going into depth. Three, even if I didn't, I could point out the areas I see scum interactions (in fact, it might be a good idea to start doing this), but I can't really put to words

why

.

[Ranger]

I think I might have played with you before....have I?

Pretty sure, yeah.
I have a decent idea for who SheldonCooper would be. Absolutely not metaing them, but for what it's worth: if I'm right then given recently-finished games it'd explain the nightkill nicely.

My scumread on Fire comes from his lack of engagement and his content very early game. In my case on Fire earlier I discussed what I didn't like about his early game content. As he's been basically prodging since then, nothing has really changed about my scumread there. He's not trying to find scum at all.

This

could

be scum-scum.

[Ranger]

429/430 look like scum-scum interactions.

[Ranger]

would rather not disclose the exact nature of either my investigative or who my neighbours are because the ones who need to know already know because theyre in the hood thank you very much

^Yep, it's there.
The nature of the neighborhood, combined with the content within, is part of the reason why I came to the conclusion of mod meta = godly, player meta = TRAP.
I can also confirm that I do have an investigative which loses a LOT of its utility if I claim it so I'd prefer to keep that part silent if at all possible. (My predecessor used it the way I would last night, though how I'll use it tonight, I'm not quite sure yet; it's trickier.)

[Ranger]

509 is scum deflecting away from the scum lynch onto a town player.

Before SirCakez was even wagoned to the point of claiming, I might add.

claiming tomorrow is fine, i dont mind. claiming today? that has a very high chance of messing up my role.

Will confirm this. The first night was the most important. Future nights are a little more tricky with this power.

[Ranger]

so yeah, thats my claim. its honestly not that good an investigative especially considering the priorities, and i was hoping that my claim would draw a nightkill. alas.

^It's basically a tracker/watcher hybrid, but instead of getting a list of all the positives (which would be a GODLY role), I instead must target

exactly

the right people. I still think I can get a guilty if I'm lucky, or confirm a claim if I'm less lucky.

[Ranger]

And it's at this point I realize I probably shoulda been pointing out posts that are scum even without interactions.
747 felt like a scum post.
749 felt like scum-scum interactions.

[Ranger]

751 felt off.
752 is a similar deflection to the shos deflection yesterday.

[Ranger]

791 feels like scum interactions.
798 feels like scum interactions.

[Ranger]

802 REALLY feels like scum interactions.

[Ranger]

908 looks like scum interactions.
911 looks like scum interactions.

[Ranger]

I am so, so sorry that you replaced into a probscum slot. :(

I've no doubt you're sorry alright.
Don't quite think this is how, though!

[Ranger]

Geez, did I just spend three hours catching up on this game?

...Apparently I did. o_O

[Ranger]

Oh right, the reads.
I keep on doubting them a lot in my head, so I don't feel like strongly spearheading the lynch, but yes, 978 is my last readslist; nothing has changed since then.

[Ranger]

Your reads haven't changed since page 13? Nobody's behaviour around the day 1 lynch changed your mind about anything?

Not significantly, no. There's been moments of paranoia and doubt flaring up and down. If you asked me about the strength behind those reads, they would go up and down with the pages from the top being "never ever lynch" to "strongest town in an otherwise scummy town" and then back up to "never ever lynch" and so forth, to the bottom being "strong scumreads" to "best guesses" and then back to strong scumreads and so on. The actual order, however, has not.

Talk to me some about your Javajoe and chilledtea townreads; are they town independently or because they don't make sense as scum together with the bottom of your readslist?

Well originally Javajoe was just a role-read. His recent in-thread posting makes me believe he'd be town. There's also the fact I don't really see anyone he makes sense as being scum with. chilledtea I acknowledge there may be some meta arguments and I acknowledge there was the apparent contradiction D2, but I got a VERY strong townread on chilledtea's early posting which only got stronger and stronger. Certain key areas just hit all the notes that I feel are "correct".

Also please talk some words about Fire Assassin and any of your other scumreads that you care to elaborate further on.

Fire Assassin's a dead null. I acknowledge the meta on him would mean he's possible as scum. I also acknowledge his extreme lack of posting is possible as scum. I further acknowledge interactions mean he's not impossible as scum. So it's not impossible. But while I recognize that objectively he could be scum, subjectively I don't feel it at all. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, but I don't feel he is.

[Ranger]

he's also a really easy mislynch when he's town

Citation needed.

I personally hold SirCakez to basically the same level I do beeboy, who is basically at the same level as RadiantCowbells. Maybe his skills aren't equal to Radiant's, but they don't have to be in order to still be grouped with him in the same top tier of players. He is a good scumhunter, with strong pushes and decent instincts whenever he is actively engaged in the game.

Ranger is specifically more likely to go after harder targets when she's scum, which is why she's focusing on me and Sheldon. I think it makes the game more entertaining for her, or she just wants to avoid the common "you're going after low hanging fruit" scumtell but she does it so consistently that it's a reverse scumtell for her.

Very much not so on all fronts. I go for the players I feel I should go for. I also find great entertainment in

staying alive

, and picking a fight with high-caliber players is not something very productive to that. As scum I aim to engage the players I feel I need to engage. There's no thoughts of lynching them or not lynching them. It's purely whether engaging them feels like it should be done. This is to replicate my natural town play, which is...of course. I don't care whether a player is the hardest mislynch to ever obtain or such low-hanging fruit that everyone can see they're scum. Scum players are scum. Town players are town. I will pursue scum. I will defend town. It really is that simple. No thought. No strategy. Purely pursuing the right (or "right") thing. And the right thing this game feels like you.

Her push on my slot doesn't feel like a genuine push, it feels like her Imperium push in both of those games.

The difference is, when I engaged Imperium, there was no chance of me winning. My play was not meant to win the fight. It was meant to last as long as I could and then lose. Against you, I hold no intention of losing. I don't hold conviction, sure. I may back down. I may pursue other suspects. I refuse to accept defeat.

The reads in her readslists don't fluctuate as often; as town she'll have more minor fluctuations from page to page.

This has never been true, or if it was, has not been true in a very long time, at least not as presented here. My reads change off of the state in the game. The game state did not significantly change. Little things happened. There were no solid interactions that threw anything into such doubt that my reads would change that significantly. No, say, scumteam pairings I saw 'hard-bussing'. No points that were so groundbreaking my read would reverse. Simply strengthenings, and weakenings, of already-existing statuses.

She has a strong preference for playing as town and some of that shines through even in games where she's a bit disengaged or struggling.

And, bluntly...you'd have seen it here by now.

I haven't gotten this feeling, this absolute confidence, of a lockdown. I've got this general idea, which vaguely feels like it's right. So while that's certainly not as passionate as I could be...while that certainly is not as energetic, as strong, as I could be...the town still is there. It still shines through, because this has always been my town game. This has been the type of play which would make you go "Ranger is town, but I have to mislynch her" in a scum PT. This is the type of play where you would be sad to see me as someone who needed to go, but where I would need to go. Because if you were town, you would

know

. I still have enough belief, enough confidence, that I am willing, able, and currently engaging in, pushing my reads. You said it yourself: it's not something I can fake.

But this is no fake. It never could be. I am town. There are

so

many reasons I am town. And I fundamentally cannot see you not seeing it. Especially when you went out of your way to encourage me in 981. Especially when you went out of your way to ask me questions about my reads with energy, with drive behind your own posting. Especially when you did not try, not once, to unpack my reads. You didn't even try to figure out where I was coming from on them. You asked me to unpack them myself. And I simply do not see it as town.

[Ranger]

Didn't like this post.

Tough.

ranger doesn't seem townie with her arguments.

Sure don't. They're not meant to look town. They're meant to point at scum.

I am the last person that should be here defending ranger.

^This is a perfect demonstration of why Fire Assassin is a null read: The paranoia in me wants to say that your buddying is a bad sign, but by gut I actually read the defense as sincerely town.

one of the things I was looking for just happened.

I am almost 100% positive that there was absolutely nothing in my 1007 that I have not done before at least once as scum. So, to be blunt: I don't buy it.

[Ranger]

Ranger are you a gunsmith Y/N

No. My role's

called

a cop, but it's much closer in utility to a very specific tracker/watcher.

Ranger, your posts are very vague.

Are not. They're unspecific. There's a difference. Vague means there's something more beyond what is said behind what I'm saying, unspecific means that there's nothing specific behind what I'm saying.

Ranger why did you townbin me so early into your d1 reads?

I liked your entrance into the game. When you were questioned early-on, I liked the way you responded. 83 was a very valid point. That got you started on being a reasonably solid read. Your claim is also something that, while it could technically come from scum,

is

less likely to be made by scum. There's little things elsewhere too, like seeing some of the townreads I gained, such as the one on Kuroi. The fake-hammer was also a good one.

Stuff like that.

Also,
VOTE: SheldonCooper.
I see multiple players saying they're suspicious of Sheldon.
I see none of them voting there.

That is a wagon I'd vastly prefer to the Fire Assassin wagon, because while Fire Assassin

could

be scum, I consider it less likely.

[Ranger]

well now i've told you something you weren't aware of about your scumgame!

I have known about the accusation about my reads not changing before.

It is not a new one.

It is also not a valid one.

[Ranger]

in this game there were exciting things that happened that did not affect your readslist.

So you say.

I happen to disagree.

And as the person who happens to have been the one doing the reading, and having formed these opinions, personally, I think my opinion means more.

[Ranger]

This vote is atrocious

Yes it was.

But instead, you voted Sheldon.

Also,

Ranger's reads being bad is NAI, she has both good and bad reads as town (sorry Ranger <3)

I don't think a town-you says this. A town you has been

absolutely smoked

by a scum-me having "bad reads".

[Ranger]

Sir Cakes didn't even post on this page, so i'm going to guess this is either the null line or you've decide that Sheldon was bussing Cakes in RVS.

Neither. Well, okay, the latter was and is possible and in fact would stand with my current reads, but did not factor into the existence of the read. What you're neglecting is that I read PTs before game threads. In this instance, before I had read a word in here, I had already read my neighborhood PT. The read was not only based on some incredibly suspect comments from SirCakez in there (not that Javajoe was much better, admittedly), but also on the notion that one scum in the neighborhood was a probability.

I fall a little bit and skimming my posts I have no idea why. Maybe because she disagrees with my early reads?

Because you tried to discredit the validity of the double-voter being town. I saw no town motivation behind that.

Why did he rise above when he hadn't posted?

It was a read adjustment/correction thing. My scumread on Sheldon wasn't as strong as my scumread on you or SirCakez.

Ranger, why was this catchup of his so town?

It started on page 11: the Cabd read, the MagnaofIllusion read, the Fire Assassin read, all of these read as pro-town. 274 in particular, with the "if I want to be naive" part, is something I empathize with. Then we get 283. Literally the only read in there which I wouldn't call good is the SirCakez read.

What about this interaction looks like scum-scum?

I do not, in fact, think Sheldon would privately disclose their identity. I do, however, think SirCakez's statement felt fake, implying he had a lack of sincere interest in knowing. This suggests scum-scum.

What about this post is scum deflecting away from a scum lynch rather than white knighting a townie?

Well it'd be scum either way, but if Sheldon is who I think they are, they try to avoid at all costs bussing. That behavior towards SirCakez is consistent with it.

Why?

The defining traits of scum-scum interactions are usually fake interactions that are meant to look good but lead nowhere. That was one post which gave me that feeling, very strongly at that.

If Ranger for some reason flips town, which she won't, but if she does, then Cakes and Java are back on the table, but Meeseeks' point that "everyone who picked an element is in the neighbourhood" means that the neighbourhood is truly random so we can't say "well probably scum in the hood so let's lynch the whole thing."

After Ranger and Fire Assassin have been lynched, and both have flipped scum, lynch tea and if the game isn't over then worry about Sheldon.

This is, quite literally, setting up every possible lynch

except

SirCakez and Sheldon. I suspect there's good reason for that!

[Ranger]

In particular, the posts that made me think SirCakez was scum was post 29 in the neighborhood where he called shos a moron for not claiming a confirmable role, and then post 34 where--during the night phase--he calls MagnaofIllusion as possible scum. This felt to me like it was scum knowledge of who the nightkill was going to be, to set up a 'townslip', as in, during the night (not before), "Magna could be scum!", *magna dies*, "Oh, SirCakez said Magna could be scum, he wouldn't have said that if he were scum and knew they were planning on killing him".

Also, on the note of MagnaofIllusion, Traveling Salesman quoting MagnaofIllusion shortly after he died is another thing. That is not a hint that most players would pick up on. The two players in this game most likely to kill MagnaofIllusion because of a PR hint would be {Sheldon, Traveling Salesman}.

[Ranger]

I went and looked up what the likelihood of it being a scum vs town role, determined that 5 out of 6 times in minis, double voter is a town role, and said that there was an 83% chance that Java was town which is good enough for day 1. How is that discrediting?

That wasn't how I read it. I'd have to reread all that section of the game to find the relevant posts and show them, but your posting definitely carried the impression you were telling the town

not

to trust the claim, rather than saying to trust the claim.

Sheldon is not a player who avoids bussing

Except they quite explicitly are. It's not as if they will never bus, ever. It's that they try to avoid it as much as possible. Distance, sure, but push come to shove, not actually bus.

if I was scum together with sheldon i probably would've let sheldon pick who to kill

Sheldon has incentive to kill MagnaofIllusion greater than any other player in the game, be it past or present, for what it's worth.

[Ranger]

Her reads are lacking the depth that they usually have when she's town.

I have not explained them all. That does not mean there was no depth to them. I have, of course, said that I have had some difficulties explaining everything, but those difficulties are not complete inability, and I've done what I can for the ones I see as important that I've been asked about.

[Ranger]

Wait ranger do you really not see who Sheldon is?

I'm pretty sure I do.
And I'm pretty sure my assessment stands true.

[Ranger]

Mod: V/LA for today, and all Wednesdays in July.

Means no posting from me until tomorrow.

[Ranger]

You didn't respond to the heart of my case against you.

If I don't respond to something, it's because I deem it not worth responding to.

Wonder what that says about the heart of your case?

The problem is that Ranger is pretending not to know who he is.

Quite clearly, I am not, given that I explicitly stated who I thought Sheldon was in my neighborhood (and frankly would probably need to apologize for saying the name), and even in here have heavily hinted at it.

2. Dunno man 3 people claimed cop variants.

My role's

called

a cop, but it's not a cop variant. It's closer to a tracker or watcher in functionality.

[Ranger]

she's done nothing for me except throw shade onto Travelling Salesman.

Not so!

I've done nothing except throw shade onto Traveling Salesman, SirCakez,

and

Sheldon.

The two extra names are important.

Yet Ranger claimed to believe that I'm Titus.

Yes. For a start, inherent to alts is the choice to play under a different style. You said, as Sheldon, you were playing differently. This fit with Titus. The NAME SheldonCooper is a name that I would see Titus using, akin to Virtue in how obvious it is a name for her to choose. I suspected it was Titus because of that fact alone. Then we got townbeard, and even Cakey, both signatures of Titus.

And instead suggested that Meseeks is an RC alt?

Yes. The first thing I noticed when I saw meseeks was his post count. It was nearly two pages long. That instantly fit the mold of you. Then there was how he was playing as an alt, including his ultimate decision to replace out. His treatment of Traveling Salesman, the emotional way he was reacting, and his full confidence in his gambit, in his play, and telling players to "trust me, I know what I'm doing".

Second of all, how the fuck does Ranger not figure me out?

In part because I was under the impression I had replaced you. Of course I'm not going to look for an RC alt if I think I REPLACED the RC alt. This is stupidly obvious. You said it yourself, even:

Ranger looks for RC alts everywhere.

I look for RC alts everywhere. But inherent to looking for RC alts everywhere is a fundamental required fact:

there can only be one RC alt per game

. And I thought it was my slot. So the thought never occurred to me that it was you, no.

When Ranger replaced in, she saw that her slot was pretending not to know and continued playing it up, and to make an excuse for why she wouldn't notice she pretended she thought her predecessor was me and said that I was Titus.

Only problem with that is that I wasn't reading my slot until AFTER the exchange with Plotinus first took place. If my predecessor has a short iso of like five, ten posts, yeah, gonna read that, because no reason not to. But, what, 137? Some number like that. Which I later learned were mostly long walls? Heck no, I'm not gonna read that before the game.

And you also say it yourself.

And Titus isn't even a terrible pick

If you yourself admit Titus was not a terrible pick, then you are admitting that it is possible I read Sheldon's posts as hers.

I understand that Cakez came to that conclusion at one point but that was because of the Cakey thing and the townbeard thing.

Oh yeah. Guess when I first mentioned Sheldon being Titus?

It was immediately after the Cakey and townbeard thing in my readthrough. The timing of my comment naming Titus (not saying the exact timestamp because I'm not sure what Antihero's stance on that would be, could get me modkilled) was between the timing of 980 and 982. As in, by the time I had posted 982, I had posted "If Sheldon's Titus, then we know why MagnaofIllusion died N1" five minutes prior to then. Look at the posts I was quoting around then. The comment I quoted? 417. The post where you pretended to be Titus with townbeard and Cakey? 415.

So yes.

It WAS available at the point I was in the game. I was flat-out quoting chilledtea quoting it!

[Ranger]

calling Meseeks an RC alt which makes no sense but also gives her an excuse to not see me as an RC alt

Basic order of operations.

I thought mseeks was you before I had put much thought into Sheldon's identity.

Ergo, I did not have you in mind when thinking of Sheldon, something I did later.

Why was Sheldon a subject later?

...Because Sheldon was a SUBJECT. LATER.

The first talk about meseeks's identity?

Page five.
Actually, page six, but the conversation between Traveling Salesman and meseeks began on five. It was 127 which set the read off.

First talk about Sheldon's identity?

415.
Page 17.

On the name alone (and again, Plotinus should know why I would think Titus would choose that name, for the same reason Plotinus would know why I knew Titus was Virtue on the name of the alt alone), sure, I had thought "From the name, that might be Titus". But it wasn't until you dropped big Titus tells that I actually thought for sure you were Titus.

[Ranger]

I'm sure you're being cautious by unvoting, but it looks like you're really sucking up to RC.

(Psst. What do you think that means in terms of their alignments?)

VOTE: SirCakez.

but it could since she isn't probably trying to read the game as hard as a townie would.

Bluntly I would not have wasted three hours of my life if I had drawn scum. At least, not scum with the names people are accusing me of being scum with! Fire Assassin, who has an irrational hatred of me? You, who I barely know? The closest to a name I've been accused of being scum with that would actually have any chance of me being energetic is Aneninen, who I DO have good synergy with.

Anyone who thinks my entrance into the game had no energy can go to hell. That took me three hours, in the middle of the night, to do. I devoted time, and serious effort, to reading the game, because I was

enjoying it

. And let me tell you this. If I was scum and was not enjoying myself, that catchup? Never would have happened. I'd have quit at like page 15. Said, "these reads are good enough, going to work from here". But I didn't. I trudged through and read the whole thing.

I am town.

And actually, I change my mind.

VOTE: Traveling Salesman.

[Ranger]

I don't see any other reason for anyone to kill them.

Problem: I wasn't in the game until D2.

Now if you want to talk about DAVSTO, go ahead. Not that I can defend against that, since I'm not nearly familiar enough with him as a player (have we even played a game together?) to know his style, his history, what players he has and hasn't played with, how he'd treat them, and so on. But you'll stand a better chance of making an argument that's actually physically possible!

Do you know who you would've killed last night if you were scum with Ranger?

*ahem*

Never mind, I'm a derp.

And people wonder why I think SirCakez is the scum in the neighborhood.

[Ranger]

Though, in case the question comes up anyway...

Do you know who you would've killed last night if you were scum, Ranger?

If I had been in the game N1, SirCakez would be out of the question: narrowing down the neighborhood would be potentially suicidal. That same logic technically applies to Javajoe, but he's not someone I'd exactly put much stock into nightkilling. (No offense. <3) Working under the assumption I knew who Sheldon was, that'd be my nightkill, obviously, but if not, the most obvious choice would be Traveling Salesman thanks to Plotinus. After that, for purely pragmatic reasons (those being, he often scumreads me), Fire Assassin.

There's more players than that. Aneninen would be near the top of my charts, since he's a good player in my experience. Kuroi, from experience and play this game, wouldn't have been a bad choice, either. When it comes to {GIF, chilledtea, Cabd, MagnaofIllusion}, they're basically all equals, in being middle-of-the-road kills. To put it in tiers,
{RadiantCowbells, Traveling Salesman}
{Fire Assassin}
{Aneninen}
{Kuroi}
{GIF, chilledtea, Cabd, MagnaofIllusion}
{Sheldon}
{Javajoe, SirCakez}

[Ranger]

Mod: feeling a bit under the weather

(didn't post yesterday because of it),

so V/LA today, maybe tomorrow

, depending on how long it takes to recover.

Sorry.

[Ranger]

Also that Ranger lynch was really really terrible god

Yeah no kiddin'.