Mini 1806 : DotA Mafia [Round 1 - SD] (Game Over ?!)

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Fire Assassin

[Dunnstral]

Lol.

I thought you thought TNE was mafia? Why'd you rvs vote Yume...?

[Dunnstral]

[Dunnstral]

Didn't he concede that outting discards was a bad idea anyways?

I don't understand why he claimed to have discarded naga siren, I looked at her abilities and I really can't see the point.

[Dunnstral]

The Dire neighborhood is dead silent

Pretty much expected

Perhaps they were busy talking in their scum chat, instead?



Also Racical's vote here is ew as he has to overexplain it but wasn't actually there in the pre-game chat

[Dunnstral]

Survivor can win with mafia. Therefore I don't even consider it a mislynch

[Dunnstral]

Is there a reason to vote Shiro based on the Dire chat?

[Dunnstral]

Fire said something to the effect of "I think TNE is mafia already in pre-game"

I later mentioned that we should all come out voting FA, and he came out rvs voting someone not in our radiant chat

[Dunnstral]

Pretty sure yume needs to post out here to not get prodded?

[Dunnstral]

Snarky snowman was in this game?

[Dunnstral]

>Account boosted

What lol

[Dunnstral]

All this talk about survivor isn't even helping us

Survivor is obviously not going to claim for reasons, everyone else discussing them.... doesn't help

We're not trying to find the survivor.

[Dunnstral]

Probably

[Dunnstral]

Nah this rvs/whatever this is game opening sucks

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Vedith

Here we go

[Dunnstral]

Yume is prodded . She has 24 hours to pick this prod up.

I would bet money that she doesn't pick this prod up.

[Dunnstral]

I strongly feel that 1 of the mafia are silent.

How come?

[Dunnstral]

Who do you think is mafia in the active players?

[Dunnstral]

Shiro what do you think of the game so far though

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Snarky

Choo choo?

Not sure what to make of Vedith right now

[Dunnstral]

I'm no criminal forensics expert but I believe there's at least 1 mafia in Dire clan based on the above passage

[Dunnstral]

Just to clarify, I never once said Radiant Clan.
I said I think Radiant is scum (Meaning Radical)

OK. That was actually something I was looking at as really bad

[Dunnstral]

You level up

[Dunnstral]

basically from the rules, at level 1 you can rank 1 ability, at level 2 you get a second, and the third comes at level 4

if you are an intelligence character, yous tart at level 2 already

[Dunnstral]

No. We're not lynching the opposing clan just to level up, that's idiotic. We're lynching whoever is most likely to be scum individually.

[Dunnstral]

Just to clarify, I never once said Radiant Clan.
I said I think Radiant is scum (Meaning Radical)

OK. That was actually something I was looking at as really bad

I also questioned if there was actually a benefit for us voting your clan scum instead of our clan scum.
I'm still unsure to the answer.

Why are you assuming that each clan has 1 scum member?

[Dunnstral]

If so, then we should vote different a clan each day unless evidence or reason is given.

No.

[Dunnstral]

We should vote who we think is mafia each day, not our second best gues who happens to be on the other clan side

[Dunnstral]

If so, then we should vote different a clan each day unless evidence or reason is given.

No.

Then you're stupid if you want to keep voting the same side off.

If I think scum is on the other side, why would I lynch this side and give scum more abilities...?

[Dunnstral]

A clarification

Your heroes don't know any abilities unless you ask me to learn them. At levels 1 , 2 , 4 and 6 you may ask me to learn a specific ability. I will repeatedly remind your level and the abilities you may learn at the start of each cycle or whenever you level up. for learning a new ability please send me a

Private Messsage

including the name(s) of ability(es) you wanna learn whenever you can learn them. (I mean don't make a list for me about the abilities you wanna learn later in game!)

You don't know any abilities unless I send you a confirmation with title "

New found wisdom :

" with the ability titles.

I won't accept any other ways of communication like skype chat or site chat for consistency and logging game events correctly.

[Dunnstral]

By the way, ultimate abilities are disabled for this 10 person game, as well

[Dunnstral]

We should vote who we think is mafia each day, not our second best gues who happens to be on the other clan side

Did you fail to read my evidence or reason part of the comment?

You're arguing that our lynches should be based on something other than who we think is mafia.

[Dunnstral]

By the way, ultimate abilities are disabled for this 10 person game, as well

You start on level 1 and get it level 6 right?
Wouldn't that make lynching each member of one clan give you the chance to level 6, also you said people can start on level 2?

No, it's actually just turned off for the 10 person one, I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere

[Dunnstral]

Dota Mafia is an semi-open mafia for 10 / 20 people.

If 10 people: 7 town, 1 survivor and 2 mafia
If 20 people: 14 town, 2 survivor, and 4 mafia or 14 town, 1 survivor, 3 mafia A, and 2 mafia B.

Regardless of your alignment, half of you will be part of Radiant clan while the other half will be part of Dire clan.

Each clan has their own discussion Thread as well which is open in days and nights and during the picking phase.

Each hero has 4 abilities. You must assign the first three abilities as reward for leveling up. First, you must pick your original skill for level 1, Second, you must pick the ability that you want as reward for level 2. Finally, you must pick the ability that you want as reward for level 4. The fourth ability is called Ultimate ability and can be only won for leveling up to level 6.

The Ultimate ability is not available for 10 people game.

Whenever someone is leveled up I will announce it to them and I will remind them what abilities they can spark (if any).

Your hero also has 1 of the following traits:

Strength : It takes 1 extra vote to lynch you
Agility : On odd/Even cycles (randomly chosen) , Your action or vote can't be canceled if only foiled (role blocked, etc..) by one ability . It takes 2 or more abilities to foils your action/vote to cancel it.
Intelligence : Originally, each player starts at level 1, but you starts at level 2.

[Dunnstral]

You're arguing that our lynches should be based on something other than who we think is mafia.

You're obviously too foolish to see what I am saying.
*Hands you colouring books*
Go over to the corner and have fun.

I'm not. You're backpedaling whether intentional or not

[Dunnstral]

I actually feel worse on Vedith now

I'm having trouble reading radical rat

I don't know on FA either

TNE is town.

Shiro is who I

Wouldn't

want to lynch out of the lurkers

By the way it's comical that Dire chat seemingly was full of all the hard lurkers

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Vedith

I wasn't going to but since you asked

[Dunnstral]

I did say I only half-read, I could have missed a post or two.

I'll go back and re-read properly, and adjust my vote as necessary.

Ew

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Radical Rat

[Dunnstral]

Oh Ircher is town too, missed him

[Dunnstral]

Yume isn't getting swapped out she posted

[Dunnstral]

Wait a minute



Snarky doesn't intend to catch up, do they....

[Dunnstral]

That beetlejuice

[Dunnstral]

Alright so nothing's happened

[Dunnstral]

Pretty sure Radical rat is mafia or survivor and not town

I'm actually leaning survivor

[Dunnstral]

Which is a valid lynch in my opinion.

[Dunnstral]

Vedith is currently my top pick for Survivor,

Anyone else notice that he's trying to paint someone else as

survivor

, and not necessarily mafia...?

You're just

off

radical, and when you say things like this:

Regardless of what my alignment may or may not be, I'd like to know so I can better my play in the future.

It doesn't help

[Dunnstral]

It also isn't really helping my play being a Hero with some rather strange abilities. I picked this one because I found them interesting, but I'm not quite sure how to play with this yet.

What does that have to do with anything yet?

[Dunnstral]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8053833

[Dunnstral]

Or did you mean the L-count? In that case, L-2

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Vedith

[Dunnstral]

I'd rather lynch scum than survivor

[Dunnstral]

There's a difference between "pressure" and quick-lynching likely survivor when people still haven't really posted

[Dunnstral]

Of course he is

[Dunnstral]

It's not a personal grudge? And I'd appreciate if you didn't talk about ongoing games or act like I'm bullying you

[Dunnstral]

This cross-game AtE is disgusting and I'm not talking about that anymore

[Dunnstral]

( Lynching Survivor is a dick move imo, and I feel like actual Scum is either Yume, Snarky, or both )

This is claiming survivor right?

Survivor can win with the mafia, you're not necessarily town aligned.

That being said, I'd absolutely vote for you but also want to get vedith and I don't like how he was spinning this story where you were mafia and not survivor


Also from now on everybody gets to be in awe of my scumhunting skills this game

[Dunnstral]

@Radical - I can easily see scum in Yume or Snarky (I would expect more Snarky)

Why snarky more than Yume?

[Dunnstral]

What do you think of Vedith?

[Dunnstral]

Like I agree that radical is probably survivor at this point

I mean even his ability was to nullify votes on him during the day right? That's something you pick as survivor or mafia, not something you pick as town

[Dunnstral]

I actually didn't even check my alignment until after I had decided.

Because it was grey and you didn't notice it?

It was not possible for me to have picked my role without noticing my alignment. Pretty sure you just slipped as survivor

[Dunnstral]

Can someone confirm if the setup was 100% random on roles and align? Because if not I can see it being swayed to have more of possibility as a town role rather than a scum role.

This is what i meant about the townslip-scumslip

Isn't that null?

They replaced in

[Dunnstral]

Yes. You're not telling me you didn't see Green/Red text at the top? Like, it didn't catch your eye at all? Makes sense if it's Grey

[Dunnstral]

I'm Town Bane, with current abilities Enfeeble and Brain Sap, both of which allow me to mess with the votes. Enfeeble will let me remove someone's voting ability, and Brain Sap will let me redirect votes off of me.

By the way I'm not big into dota and I definitely didn't go and read through all the possible roles

I'll check this one now

[Dunnstral]

Enfeeble : Vote blocker
Brain Sap : Vote Modifier
Nightmare : Neighborizer
Feind's Gip : Disabler [channeling]

Notes

all the players effected by "nightmare" has access to a private topic named "Nightmare". as its said people might join the nightmare pt using day abilities.

Bane will be effected by nightmare himself.

This will be the first post of the nightmare pt :

Nightmare

Screams ... Screams ... Screams ....

you could hear the laughter of the evil and you can see the doorway of hell.

"Sweat Dreams!"

his ultimate completly vanilize the other target , and will even remove their vote.

His ultimate is channeling means if he dies the effect of ultimate will be canceled immidiatly.

Notifications and Feedbacks

"You have access to "Nightmare" private topic that you can use it through this [link]."

"You lost access to one of your private topics."

"Something is stopping you from performing any actions."

...This isn't what someone picks as town

Both of your skilled abilities make it harder to be lynched.

Have you used either yet?

[Dunnstral]

Does brain sap last for the whole day phase?

[Dunnstral]

Except nobody near L-1 is going to be voting you now

[Dunnstral]

I mean I'd never have picked that character regardless of alignment... but that's a different discussion

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

L-1 boys

[Dunnstral]

Yes

[Dunnstral]

Hey guys what's going on in here-

ahahaha

[Dunnstral]

Wow this is a long twilight

[Dunnstral]

TNE is town regardless

[Dunnstral]

Though I got a wrong read as scum at least that's 1 down

Wha-

Did you just claim as-

Nope nothing weird here

[Dunnstral]

Hey guys

Just because vedith was survivor, doesn't mean night kill analysis doesn't apply to him

[Dunnstral]

Technically, I did hit L-1, and I said I would claim. I worry this will get me NKed, but if I get lynched that won't matter anyway.

I'm Town Bane, with current abilities Enfeeble and Brain Sap, both of which allow me to mess with the votes. Enfeeble will let me remove someone's voting ability, and Brain Sap will let me redirect votes off of me.

I don't think anyone on my wagon is lynch-worthy (

Lynching Survivor is a dick move imo

, and I feel like actual Scum is either Yume, Snarky, or both ), and while removing a vote is tempting, I'd rather the votes on me be moved somewhere useful.

So why were you talking about someone else being a survivor so much?

[Dunnstral]

I did not visit Fire Assassin

[Dunnstral]

How often have you seen scum straight up role-fish like that?

I've seen it once only

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Fire assassin

[Dunnstral]

No I just got a sudden premonition that fire is mafia, you should sheep me

[Dunnstral]

...No there isn't lol

[Dunnstral]

Yea we're lynching fire today.

[Dunnstral]

Dumbtell spotted (?)

[Dunnstral]

For a good reason. Don't derail this.

[Dunnstral]

Yeah, we're lynching fire

That being said, I'm feeling really uneasy about TNE hammering because it's something super anti-town that she's hiding.

[Dunnstral]

JK PUDGE DIED

ignore that previous post

[Dunnstral]

OK. If FA is town you guys can get me. I have no problems with this.

That is all I really want to say on the matter

[Dunnstral]

That being said, I'm feeling really uneasy about TNE hammering because it's something super anti-town that she's hiding.

CAN'T I NOT HAVE THE PLEASURE OF HAMMERING SOMEONE I FOUND SCUMMY ON D1?

FOR FUCKING FUCKS SAKE

I looked through the list of roles and thought you were pudge

But then I saw pudge died

[Dunnstral]

I was concerned because pudge hammering would mean two extra votes would be needed to lynch TNE. Taking her into a potential auto-win situation if she got far enough as scum

[Dunnstral]

Either Fire or me dies today.




And I don't plan on dying

That said pretty sure we're just waiting on people who haven't showed up

[Dunnstral]

Soul siphon

Changes my mind, your soul can stay with me snarky

Oopsie

Activate :Spirit Siphon

[Dunnstral]

Did shiro not say anything about that at all in your thread?

[Dunnstral]

This is what we all assumed Shiro had basically claimed in our radiant chat. We also came to the conclusion that Shiro is probably town

[Dunnstral]

We're not getting Ircher. Guilty on FA. Get FA please

[Dunnstral]

Me

[Dunnstral]

How so...?

[Dunnstral]

Why am I being voted?

Ircher is scum.

[Dunnstral]

I made it clear that I never visited fire.

[Dunnstral]

I don't have a guilty. I was pretty sure Ircher was fake claiming one. I made it clear I never visited fire.

Kill ircher after this, I don't know what he was doing.

Kill Masq too if he quickhammers

[Dunnstral]

Actually, if Dunn got a Cop guilty on Fire last night, then he's lying.

Because, I roleblocked Fire and anyone who targeted Fire last night.

He would have realized this.

[Dunnstral]

Oh, and if it wasn't obvious, I definitely visited Fire last night.

VOTE: Fire assassin

VOTE: Fire

He didn't claim it but he acted like he had one. So I pretended I had it to eat the night kill instead

Ircher is just scum though

VOTE: Ircher

[Dunnstral]

He wouldn't have randomly sheeped it as town

He was softing it and instantlyt voted after me

Also I'm pretty sure there is a cop regular ability from skimming

[Dunnstral]

Except Ircher isn't town and that's not how town reacts

[Dunnstral]

Town wouldn't have talked about visiting fire then voted with me after I clearly said I hadn't visited fire (also he claims to roleblock people who visited fire so...?)

It's not impossible either though, I saw a character that could determine alignment each night visiting someone in there

[Dunnstral]

New subject: Who all visited Fire last night?

I did not visit Fire Assassin

Oh, and if it wasn't obvious, I definitely visited Fire last night.

[Dunnstral]

I thought that was him soft claiming, too, and he was thinking along the lines of "mafia wouldn't target their buddy so people who targetted fire are likely clear"

[Dunnstral]

TNE, how come the only thing you did was ask me for a claim there?

[Dunnstral]

TNE, how come the only thing you did was ask me for a claim there?

Well it was true. If it makes you feel better I feel good about you again from those recent posts

[Dunnstral]

Why hasn't anyone noticed that Masquerade is only here for the L-1'ing and the Hammering?

Aren't they like v/la or something though

[Dunnstral]

Why would he visit his own teammate to roleblock him and or do any other actions?

misrep alert

[Dunnstral]

Actually, if Dunn got a Cop guilty on Fire last night, then he's lying.

Because, I roleblocked Fire

and anyone who targeted Fire last night.

My abilities are passive

[Dunnstral]

You're acting like, if you two

were

mafia together, him roleblocking you would be some kind of super wifom thing

In reality, you've claimed that all your abilities are passive (which he would have known)

He claimed that his power roleblocks the person he targets

and

people who target that person

You then said "3) Ircher did visit me for some reason but I didn't know about it, because now scum don't explain their own plans to teammates now."
As if you're not capable of faking

[Dunnstral]

Anyway, I did breadcrumb my action during twilight.

Mafia have a factional kill as well , which is counting like

other non-passive skills

with 1 cycle cooldown.

Not sure if dumbtelling or just trying to manipulate the town. It clearly says that the mafia kill is

factional

, meaning it wouldn't interfere with the use of individual abilities

[Dunnstral]

During each cycle (day--twilight--night),

you can only execute 1 non-passive skill.

Mafia have a factional kill as well , which is

counting like other non-passive skills

with 1 cycle cooldown.

Stop misinterpreting and learn to comprehend; it clearly states that players may execute only 1 active ability each cycle, and the factional kill counts as an active ability and therefore cannot be used at the same time.

No...

Mafia A gets to use an active ability
Mafia B gets to use an active ability

And they both share a FACTIONAL kill ability, independent of their own abilities

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral already said he thought you had a guilty, and tried claiming it to take the kill for you. Which sounds both plausible, and extremely pro-town.

Either this is Town vs. Town or you're the scum in Town vs. Scum.

Why cant Dunn be scum? Why cant Dunn be the one who is backtracking and making stuff up as he goes?

Town tend to be more careless than scum.

So tell me again - why am I scum? Because I claimed a guilty and you say it would have been roleblocked?

[Dunnstral]

I am currently townreading TNE though, and scumreading you. I don't like how you're suddenly trying to play it off as "tvt" when suspicion falls onto you.

Also looks like from that explanation, you're saying if you really had roleblocked fire, then he "couldn't have made the kill"

1. You can lie about who you targetted
2. From skimming, the only character in this game with 2 passives is an agility type.

Your hero also has 1 of the following traits:

Strength : It takes 1 extra vote to lynch you
Agility : On odd/Even cycles (randomly chosen) ,

Your action or vote can't be canceled if only foiled (role blocked, etc..) by one ability

. It takes 2 or more abilities to foils your action/vote to cancel it.
Intelligence : Originally, each player starts at level 1, but you starts at level 2.

So in a scenario where you're town, fire STILL could have been mafia who made the nightkill regardless, and you two can still be mafia together as well (it takes TWO to roleblock him, but since you roleblock other people who visit fire.....? Not sure how that gets resolved)

[Dunnstral]

She's "angry" ?

[Dunnstral]

Not even true.

I took a second look: found another character with 2 passives

Agility type as well.

[Dunnstral]

Why Dunn?

[Dunnstral]

I... still want Ircher...

He's voting everyone except himself

[Dunnstral]

Alright, so I'd really like to see Earth and Dunn's flips.

I townread them both. But my townread on Earth is... A strange one. Almost dependent on my townread on Dunnstral.
And that... Is suspicious.

Dunnstral is a real, proper townread. But his devotion, insistence that Earth is Town, when she's posted very little at all, let alone to help the Town...

These two are either Town together or Scum together. And there's only one way to find out which.

VOTE: thenewearth
My vote lies with the less active, and therefore less useful, of the two.

I will not be moving this vote.

Also this is kind of dumb...

It's most likely

Masq/Fire/Ircher/Yume

Two of those


Actually I'm suspicious of Yume slot and you guys should be too if you can't find scum in other players but I know we'll never be able to get that lynch because we're all PANSIES

[Dunnstral]

gank him and stuff.

[Dunnstral]

We are on a team together

[Dunnstral]

did we claim discards or

no

[Dunnstral]

im literally the worst dota hero wtf yume

Can't be worse than what radical rat claimed.... oops (in terms of forum mafia)

[Dunnstral]

I think Radical is town guys

[Dunnstral]

Maybe I'm just biased here, but based on all of the facts we have, I'm actually the most likely person to be Town here.

I know my logic is strange, and I wish I could express it better, but I am more confident in this than I have been in anything all game.

Just humor me today. You can lynch me tomorrow if you must.

Confident in what? You said tne and I are town together or maf together and you're townreading both of us but want to lynch tne anyway, it's dumb

[Dunnstral]

I'm confident that you and TNE are connected somehow.

Show evidence plz

I am very curious what this is about now

Dunnstral has interjected several times saying things like "tne is Town though" with no proper explanation whenever any suspicion is brought up. This happened both today and yesterday, I'll try to find the quotes real quick.

Ok

But that doesn't mean we're "linked" I just think they're town

[Dunnstral]

pretty sure it's just Ircher and shiro is parked on them anyway so to this upcoming vote swing: no I won't vote Shiro

[Dunnstral]

When did he call you conftown...?

[Dunnstral]

I'm here

Waiting for people to do things

I've given my stance

hiplop is probably scum for coasting

[Dunnstral]

hiplop is scum with ircher. I'll vote either today

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: hiplop

He's either trying to bus Ircher or Ircher is townand hiplop is trying to vote whoever isn't him basically (to L-1)

[Dunnstral]

Why are you trying to paint me as his partner...?

Because he's pushing on me? Your case is flimsy too and I want you dead after hiplop

[Dunnstral]

Maybe we should no lynch

HAHAHAHAH

no

[Dunnstral]

You know there's the possibility of kills being blocked, too

[Dunnstral]

Also, Dunn, if you hammer without fully explaining yourself, I will take that as a scumclaim.

Ok, I'm gonna hammer without fully explaining...

For real I'm pretty sure Ircher is scum

And pretty sure Hiplop is scum

Hiplop is actually the stronger read but I'm not opposed to lynching Ircher.

[Dunnstral]

If hiplop is scum, id much rather lynch him tomorrow instead of today because "he isn't doing anything!".

Wut

[Dunnstral]

Does anyon want to point out how obviously scummy Dunnstral is?

Not me

[Dunnstral]

If it's not ircher it's fire but I really think it's hiplop so.... let's flip this?

[Dunnstral]

pertty sure both scum are in you 3 so whatever

[Dunnstral]

Hey fire - why are you voting for Ircher right now?

[Dunnstral]

Why are you tunneled onto me, Ircher?

[Dunnstral]

Note: hiplop put Ircher into my hammer range

Actually beyond that: he voted him into a place where if he wasn't a strength hero he'd be dead by now

Shiro, would you consider voting hiplop?

[Dunnstral]

He is obviously looking for any lynch he can grab on and isn't really scumhunting.

Except I tried to flip it to hiplop when I could have hammered Ircher

Am I really "looking for any lynch I can grab on"?

Scum team might be Hiplop and Fire instead of IRcher


Shiro you should reconsider

[Dunnstral]

If dunnstral is town, consider me out.

...?

[Dunnstral]

Still thinking hoplop is scum anyway

[Dunnstral]

The only thing that makes me go against that fact was....I have been pushing that for awhile and I am still alive. Why am I here? I guess neither of them fear me enough to go for kill on me?

I kind of think me or you would have been better kills than Shiro....>.>
Ugh this makes my head spin.

Probably because I'm town

Anyways I do have something important to say but I'd like to wait for a while so.... don't make me popcorn first thanks

[Dunnstral]

Well if I answered that I'd be telling you so.

Not a long wait, mind you

[Dunnstral]

I would like to note that Dunn is a common scumread shared by the majority of the game, including the recently deceased Hiplop.

I know you're not trying to push on me for "killing hiplop" when shiro would have been voting you 100%

I don't care if you think the wait is "scum motivated" There is light at the end of this rainbow

[Dunnstral]

I'm almost certain that Ircher is mafia.

I'm not claiming yet because I haven't gotten what I've wanted. You can wait.

Nolynching is horrible

[Dunnstral]

I'm trying to work out who Ircher's buddy is because that vote on Radical makes me doubt my scumread there.

You seem convinced that ircher is scum as well, why haven't you voted him?

Do you think that because he's a strength type, we won't be able to lynch him if he's mafia?

Because guess what: we can lynch the person who refuses to lynch Ircher and they're probably just scum (hint: probably you or fire assassin that won't vote Ircher unless forced to)

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Ircher

[Dunnstral]

The Heat Is ON !

UPDATE 0.08 : 11 MAY 2016

Lina is here!

Dragon Slave : vote modifier
Light Strike Array : disabler
Fiery Soul : vote modifier
Laguna Blade : killing

Notes

She gain an extra vote if she kill someone with faction kill/Laguna blade , vote someone with dragon slave , successfully roleblock anyone with Light strike array. if a gifted ability may fail somehow , she get an extra vote if she cast them successful.

a cast is considered successful if it get casted and effect - blocking / commuting / protecting will fail an action. redirecting won't fail an action.

Her Laguna Blade won't kill commuted people. for example if she target phoenix while she is doing Icarus Dive , the kill will fail. but if she target the one phoenix dived to , the main owner of that slot will die.

Notifications and Feedbacks

The people under effect of Light strike array will receive "Something is stopping you from performing any actions."
By triggering her passive she will get this feedback"You have an extra vote sticked to your main vote today."

I didn't do any action until the final phase

Consequently I think this character is actually overpowered compared to other ones (that ult, too...)

[Dunnstral]

THE THING IS RUBICK WAS IN MY DRAFT

If you see the mafia chat I thought you were softing rubick all game and consequentially was ready to lynch radical rat during the day and nightkill Ircher

[Dunnstral]

lina is an offensive nuker like the way she must be

she is a weak in sense of saving herself though

I'm going to increase the cooldown and adding a limitation on her fiery sould though , you think other changes are needed?

I don't really think the cooldown is the problem at all

I only did one thing all game and I felt like I had a better hero than other people

The fact that she can be a triple voter on mafia causes problems (you can't expect there to be NO reveals by that point)

Lina can auto win the game as scum if she slips by powers at 7 people alive if everything goes right

Her ult gives an extra kill every other night that can't be doc blocked

[Dunnstral]

I feel kind of bad for discarding invoker btw because that was quite a complex character

Though if eh couldn't use his ult he wasn't very useful I guess

[Dunnstral]

The Bane + Lina interactions reminded me of to love or be loved where whoever goes first wins and you have to be fast

[Dunnstral]

which heroes were weak?

Bane's neighboring ability looked really wonky and I couldn't figure out what it would be used for

[Dunnstral]

Oh in case you are waiting for this, I'm ok with the release of our scumthread so if Dunn is fine with it you can release it.

I'm fine with this



Also killing Survivor night 1 was a surprise, rip vedith

[Dunnstral]

2 . I'm SO happy nosferatu didn't pick Riki although it was in his draft. (you may see the drafts at mod topic btw) It was a pregame won basically. he just needed to stay alive till day 2 to win ...
Riki is definietly going to change for next runs

How do?

[Dunnstral]

If I was town I would have used the Radiant topic more.

[Dunnstral]

If dunnstral gets lynched, immediately siphon that shit.