Mini 1806 : DotA Mafia [Round 1 - SD] (Game Over ?!)

[thenewearth]

FA-Ircher team is really plausible as fuck right now

New subject: Who all visited Fire last night?

>Asks who visited fire last night, implying a role that saw/did things in the FA slot

VOTE: Fire

>Never explained the vote, And voting AFTER dunn

There's also the fact that FA, Never really Acknowledged that Ircher has visited Last night

I dunno for some reason I feel you are town fake claiming this because you are certain fire is scum

I am pretty sure its scum fake claiming this for a few points:
1) I don't believe their is a cop ability in this setup at all (Not that I dived extremely into it)
2) I didn't visit anyone last night because all of my abilities are passive.

So how he can have a guilty at all, let alone any form of guilty is laughable at best.
This setup has no guilties and Masq joining that for this reason makes me want to reexamine her.

You DID get roleblocked yesterday anyway.

>Ircher giving a free pass, while FA STILL HASN'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED IRCHER

[thenewearth]

TL;DR

Ircher is lying, trying to bus his teammate
FA is trying not to acknowledge this and trying so hard to ignore ircher for some god awful reason

SHIRO IS STILL VI, GOD DAMMIT SHIRO DUNN WAS BEING SARCASTIC WITH THE GUILTY CLAIM, love you though <3

P.S.

Why hasn't anyone noticed that Masquerade is only here for the L-1'ing and the Hammering?

[Fire Assassin]

Newearth, I kind of think you are brain dead. If I was scum with Ircher, wouldn't I know who he visited?
I didn't know he visited me. You just think I didn't bother mentioning this fact because I knew it but thought it wasn't important?

My abilities are passive, I wasn't informed of any roleblock.

[thenewearth]

TNE, how come the only thing you did was ask me for a claim there?

[thenewearth]

wouldn't I know who he visited?

Why would it matter if you knew he visited or not?

[Fire Assassin]

TL;DR

Ircher is lying, trying to bus his teammate
FA is trying not to acknowledge this and trying so hard to ignore ircher for some god awful reason

SHIRO IS STILL VI, GOD DAMMIT SHIRO DUNN WAS BEING SARCASTIC WITH THE GUILTY CLAIM, love you though <3

P.S.

Why hasn't anyone noticed that Masquerade is only here for the L-1'ing and the Hammering?

1) What is Ircher lying about? Explain how the lie correlates with the "buss"
2) WHat?

3) You are the VI.

[Dunnstral]

TNE, how come the only thing you did was ask me for a claim there?

Well it was true. If it makes you feel better I feel good about you again from those recent posts

[Fire Assassin]

wouldn't I know who he visited?

Why would it matter if you knew he visited or not?

Why would he visit his own teammate to roleblock him and or do any other actions? You just assume this part is a lie to fill your stupid theory that doesn't hold up to any water.

This is what has to be true for your theory to be right:
1) Ircher is lying about visiting me.
2) I am intentionally ignoring all of irchers talk about roleblock and other interactions for "some reason" which isn't explained.
3) Ircher did visit me for some reason but I didn't know about it, because now scum don't explain their own plans to teammates now.

^ None of this makes any sense together. You are the VI.

[Dunnstral]

Why hasn't anyone noticed that Masquerade is only here for the L-1'ing and the Hammering?

Aren't they like v/la or something though

[Dunnstral]

Why would he visit his own teammate to roleblock him and or do any other actions?

misrep alert

[Fire Assassin]

Why would he visit his own teammate to roleblock him and or do any other actions?

misrep alert

Point out the misrep. I am tired of your short posts that don't go into any detail and are all surface posts that don't explain your thoughts.

[Dunnstral]

Actually, if Dunn got a Cop guilty on Fire last night, then he's lying.

Because, I roleblocked Fire

and anyone who targeted Fire last night.

My abilities are passive

[Fire Assassin]

I wrote out a long rant on why you are being ridiculously bad and not reading the thread. I then deleted it so as not to get myself banned because it was very ban worthy, because it explained in great detail why you are being ridiculous, and why you should leave this game. Now, I will ask again.

Use your words, what did I misrep about TNE argument?

[Dunnstral]

You're acting like, if you two

were

mafia together, him roleblocking you would be some kind of super wifom thing

In reality, you've claimed that all your abilities are passive (which he would have known)

He claimed that his power roleblocks the person he targets

and

people who target that person

You then said "3) Ircher did visit me for some reason but I didn't know about it, because now scum don't explain their own plans to teammates now."
As if you're not capable of faking

[Fire Assassin]

You're acting like, if you two

were

mafia together, him roleblocking you would be some kind of super wifom thing

In reality, you've claimed that all your abilities are passive (which he would have known)

He claimed that his power roleblocks the person he targets

and

people who target that person

You then said "3) Ircher did visit me for some reason but I didn't know about it, because now scum don't explain their own plans to teammates now."
As if you're not capable of faking

Okay, this is a good counter point.

That however wasn't a misrep you pointed out, you used a wrong word. The words you were looking for are "This isn't a good argument because you forgot the roleblock supposedly affects everyone"

Thank you for explaining your reasoning. Do this more often, pls.

[Fire Assassin]

Okay I went to check if factional kill counts as the only ability that scum can do:

Mafia have a factional kill as well , which is counting like other non-passive skills with 1 cycle cooldown.

So its possible for that theory to be true and if someone tried to do some sort of check on me would fail due to Ircher blocking me.
I guess thats +1 to you guys for that theory.

[Radical Rat]

@Ircher

If you roleblocked everyone who visited FA, why did you ask who they were?
When you first asked I thought you must have been some kind of Watcher, looking to catch people lying about their visits... but as a roleblocker, I don't see what you gain from knowing that.

[Fire Assassin]

I am curious on why he voted me when he had blocked me and a kill still happened, I am not saying that 100% clears me, but it ensures that I didn't perform the kill so makes it less likely I am scum....

[Radical Rat]

I am curious on why he voted me when he had blocked me and a kill still happened, I am not saying that 100% clears me, but it ensures that I didn't perform the kill so makes it less likely I am scum....

Because he thought Dunnstral had a guilty.

And conveniently forgot that it would have been roleblocked.

[Fire Assassin]

I am curious on why he voted me when he had blocked me and a kill still happened, I am not saying that 100% clears me, but it ensures that I didn't perform the kill so makes it less likely I am scum....

Because he thought Dunnstral had a guilty.

And conveniently forgot that it would have been roleblocked.

Yeah, that is odd.

[Masquerade]

wouldn't I know who he visited?

Why would it matter if you knew he visited or not?

Why would he visit his own teammate to roleblock him and or do any other actions? You just assume this part is a lie to fill your stupid theory that doesn't hold up to any water.

This is what has to be true for your theory to be right:
1) Ircher is lying about visiting me.
2) I am intentionally ignoring all of irchers talk about roleblock and other interactions for "some reason" which isn't explained.
3) Ircher did visit me for some reason but I didn't know about it, because now scum don't explain their own plans to teammates now.

^ None of this makes any sense together. You are the VI.

It does make sense with there being roleblock blocking/evading abilities, actually..

[Fire Assassin]

Yes, I didn't really consider the ramifications of all that could mean if the people who target me are roleblocked me too, very stupid by me.

[Ircher]

Okay I went to check if factional kill counts as the only ability that scum can do:

Mafia have a factional kill as well , which is counting like other non-passive skills with 1 cycle cooldown.

So its possible for that theory to be true and if someone tried to do some sort of check on me would fail due to Ircher blocking me.
I guess thats +1 to you guys for that theory.

That makes that impossible.

If I visited Fire to roleblock him (assuming Fire and I are scum), then I cannot perform the factional kill, as all active abilities are exclusive of each other. And Fire couldn't execute the kill cuz the kill would be blocked.

So no, occam's razor suggests that scum!Ircher + scum!Fire team is almost impossible.

[Fire Assassin]

If I visited Fire to roleblock him (assuming Fire and I are scum), then I cannot perform the factional kill, as all active abilities are exclusive of each other. And Fire couldn't execute the kill cuz the kill would be blocked.

So no, occam's razor suggests that scum!Ircher + scum!Fire team is almost impossible.

No, according to the setup the factional kill doesn't act like a normal ability.

[Ircher]

Anyway, I did breadcrumb my action during twilight.

Mafia have a factional kill as well , which is counting like

other non-passive skills

with 1 cycle cooldown.