Mini 1795: Science [GAME OVER]

[SirCakez]

VOTE: mr meeseeks
no caps drives me insane

Do you care to share those assorted reads Salesman?

[SirCakez]

VOTE: SirCakez

I already know his character. He's gravity.

How do I know that?

He suuuuuucccckkkks! <3

UNVOTE:
Apparently I'm too stupid to be in Science Mafia. I was thinking of a black hole.

Why did you unvote just because gravity isn't scientific apparently?

[SirCakez]

Preview Edit: I unvoted because a gravity doesn't suck. A black hole does. My theory on why you were scum was based on false pretenses.

Gravity does pull though.

Do you care to share those assorted reads Salesman?

They are not ready for sale yet.

--P

Why not? I want to be sold some delicious Plot reads.

its my shtick deal with it cakey

Your name is capitalized tho.

Fascinating, as Spock would say.

VOTE: MagnaOfIllusion

Why the instant sheep here?
P-edit: nvm on the last question

[SirCakez]

Javajoe's reaction was too calm and from my experience with him, I don't think he'd fake that level of calmness.

This contradicts itself.
"too calm"
"don't think he'd fake that calm"

What the hell does it mean?

Why not? I want to be sold some delicious Plot reads.

Because I've noticed scum are a bit more likely to prompt me to share my thoughts with the rest of the class, usually treating me as if I've simply forgotten to attach names to my readslist, or as if I just didn't know that sharing reads progresses the game. Anen and Bella both did it in the Odds. Jake did it in the last game I ICed. I think it worries them not knowing where I stand.

You and Kuroi are also sucking up to me a little.

Ok I don't want your nasty reads then!

I think I like this
VOTE: Fire Assassin

[SirCakez]

@Cakes: Too late, i've already given my reads!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

How does that contradict?

Too calm implies it's scummy
Then saying you don't think he could fake that calm implies townie

Which is it?

[SirCakez]

Shotty is talking a LOT and more indepth then usual.
I'm not sure if this is a town or scum tell.

[SirCakez]

Oh you aren't? That would make a lot of sense.

[SirCakez]

So my first topic discussion I want us all to discuss what were your choices that Antihero didn't pick?

I am still in support of my RVS vote, and we need a wagon.
So I suggest everyone condense onto my vote.
Please and thank you from your friendly neighborhood assassin.

I didn't like these two posts. First one is a bizarre question that accomplishes nothing and the second is pushing an unexplained RVS wagon because ???

[SirCakez]

Meeseeks why are you saying you'll catch up later but still posting here actively without catching up?

[SirCakez]

bcause i cant be arsed to catch up now, but im not going to entirely fail to contribute entierly and completely when i still can do something

The game is 5 pages. If you have time to make a bunch of post you can catch up on 5 pages.

[SirCakez]

also i am

incredibly

tempted to vote you because holy shit youre metaing an alt, i dont care if i did it "on this account" but the last time someone tried this they were scum so dont mind me if i get immediately suspicious

VOTE: travelling salesman

ive nothing else to go on, so this is plenty good thanks you very much

How is metaing on an alt voteworthy?

So my first topic discussion I want us all to discuss what were your choices that Antihero didn't pick?

I am still in support of my RVS vote, and we need a wagon.
So I suggest everyone condense onto my vote.
Please and thank you from your friendly neighborhood assassin.

I didn't like these two posts. First one is a bizarre question that accomplishes nothing and the second is pushing an unexplained RVS wagon because ???

first one, shit dude, you complain about a useless post in post number seven??? while not even commenting on all of the arguably more useless science discussion that extended to the third page? sheesh. second one, uhh, "we need a wagon", he wants a wagon to form so he can analyse it, so theres a clear reason so you cant say "because ???", second scum with magna that would be cool

He was obviously trying to do something with that question, post 7 or not, that I don't see the point of.
Second one there were better reasons to vote at that point then just "lol wagonz".

I didn't like these two posts. First one is a bizarre question that accomplishes nothing and the second is pushing an unexplained RVS wagon because ???

Because pushing RVS wagon helps us move forward in the game.
That should be an obvious observation.

We were out of RVS though.

[SirCakez]

How is metaing on an alt voteworthy?

a) at the time i hadnt caught up so there wasnt much else to go on, and my previous vote at the time was still rvs
b) scum did it in the last game i was in so it struck a nerve

Link for b?

[SirCakez]

Cakes and anen are scum.

Less sure of anen.

Meseeks is .... null. Some of his reactions seem genuine. His reaction to naked vote from shos seemed strange.

Pretty sure we have at least one scum in {anen, cakes, meseeks}.

I'm still waiting for your reasoning on this lol

[SirCakez]

See, the point is that you make such a fuss from a single, naked vote. I said absolutely nothing, at all, and look how you react. "the case so far" is weak? what case? you getting uberdefensive is alarming. And hence, the vote stays.

oh no a fuss from a single naked vote??????? obviously only scum do that, after all town just

love

being voted for and lynched without an explanation

DEFENSIVENESS IS

NOT

A SCUMTELL like where did this ridiculous idea even come from it makes no damn sense

also, by "case" i mean your reason for voting me, its weak as shit and your pathetic explanation didnt make it any better.

Also

VOTE: Mr Meeseeks

do tell me why you made a big catchup and focused on several players who werent me and then voted me anyway?

uberdefensive my arse, i call bullshit on you keeping voting me for this

VOTE: shos

scumteam if you made me choose right now id go shos, moi and cakes, in order of confidence

This post pings me a lot. There's OMGUS, overreacting, and his progression of reads is just who's pushed on him and me.

as for cakez

So my first topic discussion I want us all to discuss what were your choices that Antihero didn't pick?

I am still in support of my RVS vote, and we need a wagon.
So I suggest everyone condense onto my vote.
Please and thank you from your friendly neighborhood assassin.

I didn't like these two posts. First one is a bizarre question that accomplishes nothing and the second is pushing an unexplained RVS wagon because ???

first one, shit dude, you complain about a useless post in post number seven??? while not even commenting on all of the arguably more useless science discussion that extended to the third page? sheesh. second one, uhh, "we need a wagon", he wants a wagon to form so he can analyse it, so theres a clear reason so you cant say "because ???", second scum with magna that would be cool

this one speaks for itself

oh sure why dont i fucking let everyone know who this is an alt of

whats the fucking point, holy shit like why do i even need to prove this like seriously

You wanted to avoid being read for meta and you did things that would make you virtually confscum on your main

and you expect me to townread and/or ignore it? please.

is the best quote i could find without giving away entirely who i am

now back the fuck off and stop doubting me, why the piss would i lie about something so disprovable?

here he was asking a weird and utterly pointless question which seems bizarre and wasteful, like hes trying to look useful when not really doing, you know, that much

not much but theres a reason hes the weaker of my three scumreads

I don't understand the second quote/reason here at all.

[SirCakez]

4)

Cakes' question about whether you could provide citations for having been pushed by scum for meta was wasteful? What, was he going to run out of questions?

This reminded me, I'm still waiting for an answer to this Meeseeks.

Re: Cakes/Fire Assassin I'd like to see what either of them think of this.

ahahahaha me looking forwards to a scumgame? do you honestly think this think this, because i do *NOT* look forwards to playing as scum

I think that you were looking forward to this game because yay science. I know that you prefer to play as town, but I had thought that you were growing more comfortable as scum lately and feeling more confident in your abilities, especially after your success in [redacted]. I know that [redacted2] was a frustrating scumgame for you because [etc] but I also thought you did really well in that game in spite of [youknow].

piss off, i often call out naked votes. ive seen them before, and 90% of the time they are backed up by shitty reasons when called out (see literally this fucking time!!!!!) because they usually dont give a reason because theyre scared theyll get called out when they do, so its not even close to a strange reaction, dont give me this bull.

Naked votes are usually a reaction test of some sort. There don't need to be fantastic reasons on page 7. I assumed his naked vote was because he was sheeping me. Your response to it was overblown. You accused him of talking about other players but voting you instead, but the other players he talked about were "townread, townread, i don't know what i think of magna yet" reads, so voting any of them (except magna maybe) would also have been unexpected.

if i am right about one of my three, ill be taking a close look at salesman because theres something odd there. problem is im too used to plotinus' style and it keeps seeming a bit off but then i remember its a hydra so im gonna get alarm bells, because ploti is a much player than bnl so when something is said that seems odd or backwards or something that they should realise is stupid, i have to keep in mind it might just be bnl :/

bnl is the one who signs -bnl. He is also V/LA until the 6th so it's just been me for now. He's posted in our hydra PT though.

I have no clue what to think of this because I have no idea who's alt Meeseeks is.

I'm still waiting on Chilled to explain his scumread on me also.

[SirCakez]

I have no clue what to think of this because I have no idea who's alt Meeseeks is.

Oh, sorry, the part I meant was the bit in 168 where he explains (or requotes) his reasons for scumreading you and talks about you pushing Fire Assassin for a few things and then I said what I thought of it in 172 and then Meeseeks talks some more about his you and fire in 174. Whose alt he is isn't really relevant to that part. I think you thought I was asking your opinion on the rest of 177 but I wasn't.

He provided the citation in 153, in the post you quoted in 188.


@Meeseeks regarding 187 and the naked voting thing: if you don't know who somebody is, or haven't played with them before, you can still rely on more generic scumtells like I'm trying to do with chilledtea.


@shos: have you noticed that scum are more likely to do that than town? I thought that thinking of a better thing to say half an hour after the conversation has ended was a fairly universal human experience. I remember going back a month later and telling somebody "zipper" because I'd forgotten the word the last time we interacted but by then they'd forgotten the initial conversation.

I'm going to do this in a separate post.

I think as days go by I tend to play like that.

Not on day 1.

But it is a fair observation.

My read on you is based on your previous catchup.

My read on cakez is based on the fact that he has asked a bunch of questions but, those questions don't seem to be directed at gathering any relevant information. It seems more like an attempt to either start a conversation or an attempt to look busy.

Meseeks made a similar observation.

And how do you know I'm not gathering information with these questions?

This post pings me a lot. There's OMGUS, overreacting, and his progression of reads is just who's pushed on him and me.

oh good "omgus" as a buzzword

i hate the overuse of omgus - omgus is literally "you voted me so ill vote you", not "i have a good reason for voting you and you are also voting me". overreacting? i havent even gone all caps yet which i did several times in my previous game. your description of my weird "progression of reads" ...i dont get what you mean?

How your reads all just seem to be based on who's pushing you.

Hello everyone, I'm back from V/LA and am posting again.

Haven't fully caught up yet, but firstly I'd like to ask:

@SirCakez: What are your reads on Kuroi and Meeseeks?

-bnl

Kuroi nulltown, Meeseeks nullscum

[SirCakez]

I already responded to 168

Spoiler:

1) Cakes didn't complain that Fire Assassin's 7 was useless. He complained that it was a bizarre question which accomplishes nothing. RQS is worse than RVS because scum can datamine it more effectively than town can, but the question didn't bother me terribly much because we sent in science things that we liked rather than trying for any specific role, but I think that even if someone sent in, I dunno *wanders off to wikipedia*, projectile motion, ballistics, vaporific effect, that antihero wouldn't necessarily make them a vig. So, I ignored it rather than pushed on him for it. It was a bizarre question that accomplished nothing, but it could've led to outguessing the mod or at least outguessing what kind of roles everybody was trying for, whether they got it or not.

This isn't how I was thinking (I thought it was just an attempt to look pro-town with questions) but it could have also been a scum fishing tactic yeah.

3) Why does Fire Assassin cling to his 1-vote RVS wagon on GIF instead of joining the 2-vote wagon on shos? If his reasoning is that we need a wagon, why is a 1-vote vanity wagon better than a larger wagon? If he wants an RVS wagon, why doesn't he join a larger one since nobody cares about his RVS vote on GIF? Why are you defending Fire Assassin from Cakes here?

This is a big part of my scumread on Fire Assassin

4) Cakes' question about whether you could provide citations for having been pushed by scum for meta was wasteful? What, was he going to run out of questions?

5) The question he asked you was one you could answer without outing yourself because it was from the other game you played on this account. If you say something in a game of mafia, people are going to ask you to provide citations. This isn't scummy.

And this applies as well.

Spoiler:

1) Cakes didn't complain that Fire Assassin's 7 was useless. He complained that it was a bizarre question which accomplishes nothing. RQS is worse than RVS because scum can datamine it more effectively than town can, but the question didn't bother me terribly much because we sent in science things that we liked rather than trying for any specific role, but I think that even if someone sent in, I dunno *wanders off to wikipedia*, projectile motion, ballistics, vaporific effect, that antihero wouldn't necessarily make them a vig. So, I ignored it rather than pushed on him for it. It was a bizarre question that accomplished nothing, but it could've led to outguessing the mod or at least outguessing what kind of roles everybody was trying for, whether they got it or not.

oh wow, technicalities. he was clearly complaining about someone "accomplishing nothing". those are the exact words. so why he was complaining about that and not the other tons of fluff at the start is beyond me!

See below

2) The science discussion that you took part in. There's nothing wrong with some banter and enjoying the flavour at the start of a game.

irrelevant. it was fluff, and for that to be ignored over complaining aboyt a question is silly

Science discussion isn't supposed to accomplish anything, while Fire's question looked like it was.

3) Why does Fire Assassin cling to his 1-vote RVS wagon on GIF instead of joining the 2-vote wagon on shos? If his reasoning is that we need a wagon, why is a 1-vote vanity wagon better than a larger wagon? If he wants an RVS wagon, why doesn't he join a larger one since nobody cares about his RVS vote on GIF? Why are you defending Fire Assassin from Cakes here?

becaues... he disagrees with the shos wagon? not that hard to figure out, when he "wants a wagon" obviously he wasnt it on someone he doesnt think is town... im not defending fire, im criticising cakez for clearly not thinking about what he says before painting someone as bad for doing it

He didn't say anything about disagreeing with shos wagon tho.

4) Cakes' question about whether you could provide citations for having been pushed by scum for meta was wasteful? What, was he going to run out of questions?

waste of my time, to have to go into a game and try and find a relevant post which didnt contain my mains nick because, shock horror, a discussion involving metaing my main contained my mains username a lot surprisingly enough

Considering you remembered it so well, it shouldn't have been hard to find.

5) The question he asked you was one you could answer without outing yourself because it was from the other game you played on this account. If you say something in a game of mafia, people are going to ask you to provide citations. This isn't scummy.

but it was pointless, it was hardly like i was going to lie about it ffs

How is this scummy?

[SirCakez]

Will catch up here in a bit, sorry

[SirCakez]

Cakes several of your questions including some you asked meseeks seemed more like

looking like scumhunting

rather than scumhunting itself.

It didn't feel like genuine curiosity.

Also how come you have a read on kuroi so quickly? I definitely want you to explain this read in as many words as possible.

How do you differentiate between "looking like scumhunting" and "scumhunting"?
Next post I'll do this
like four different people asked me about my Kuroi read ffs

Meeseeks nullscum

ahahaha what? nullscum? after all youve said about me, im fucking

nullscum

? that just seems... wrong.

I don't have any really strong scumreads at this point. Fire Assasin has kind of drifted back to nullscum.

He didn't say anything about disagreeing with shos wagon tho.

...but him supporting a rivaling wagon is a pretty clear indication that he disagrees with it though. subtext, reading between the lines, as irritating as i find it when people dont state reads its pretty obviously implied when he does something like that. come on.

Not really....
I've supported counter wagons without disagreeing with the other before

Considering you remembered it so well, it shouldn't have been hard to find.

i made like 325 posts in that game so it was hardly an easy search

erm ok

How is this scummy?

im 90% sure i already explained this, but its asking questions to appear like youre doing something or thinking critically while actually acheieving very little.

And how do you know I'm not achieving anything?

So next up, I have a scumread on Cakez, because he seems to be scumreading some people yet hides it.

WTF
This is on like the level of Titus accusing me of faking my reads as town in College Mafia bullcrap

Javajoe's reaction was too calm and from my experience with him, I don't think he'd fake that level of calmness.

This contradicts itself.
"too calm"
"don't think he'd fake that calm"

What the hell does it mean?

How does that contradict?

Too calm implies it's scummy
Then saying you don't think he could fake that calm implies townie

Which is it?

Here he is trying to attack Kuroi by pointing out a contradiction, but doesn't say it out that he is indeed scumreading him.

I ended up deciding he was town from this. I never said I was scumreading him because I wasn't scumreading him (._. )

Meeseeks why are you saying you'll catch up later but still posting here actively without catching up?

bcause i cant be arsed to catch up now, but im not going to entirely fail to contribute entierly and completely when i still can do something

The game is 5 pages. If you have time to make a bunch of post you can catch up on 5 pages.

Same thing here. There is an implied scumread on Meeseeks with these posts but he doesn't say it.

I find it scummy when someone tries to point out why someone is scummy but doesn't say it himself (or with obvious actions such as a vote or intent to vote). This is because scum look at ways to discredit someone to make him look scummy, but he is scared that saying the scumread may look opportunistic/picking at minor points.

Which is why I tested him in 212, and he replies:

Hello everyone, I'm back from V/LA and am posting again.

Haven't fully caught up yet, but firstly I'd like to ask:

@SirCakez: What are your reads on Kuroi and Meeseeks?

-bnl

Kuroi nulltown, Meeseeks nullscum

I tried to follow up in 235 but he hasn't replied, but this is fine for now. I actually don't know how to read this reply, but it definitely doesn't shake off my scumread on him, so I have a scumread here too.

-bnl (#264 was by BNL too)

And I am scumreading Meeseeks. This is really awful reasoning for a scumread. Like my townread on you just sank like a rock, that's how fake I think this is.

[SirCakez]

My Kuroi nulltown read comes from his widespread engagement and what looks like consistent efforts to sort people. For example, he dropped a full readslist in 261 which I don't think anyone else has. 225 looks like an active town thought process, from one post he sorted Anen up to nullscum, these are the kind of posts I see town making. In 219 he directly pushed on Traveling Salesman, who is probably one of the most townread players in the game right now. Another scenario that I don't see scum engaging into. The reason he's only nulltown is due to his lower activity and a good chunk of his posts consist of little fluffs.

[SirCakez]

My Kuroi nulltown read comes from his widespread engagement and what looks like consistent efforts to sort people. For example, he dropped a full readslist in 261 which I don't think anyone else has. 225 looks like an active town thought process, from one post he sorted Anen up to nullscum, these are the kind of posts I see town making. In 219 he directly pushed on Traveling Salesman, who is probably one of the most townread players in the game right now. Another scenario that I don't see scum engaging into. The reason he's only nulltown is due to his lower activity and a good chunk of his posts consist of little fluffs.

I like to think the reason I've been less than fully active in this day period was my wedding, lol.

This is fair

SC town
chilledtea goes to same place as Mr Meeseeks.

Very interested in your reads on the latter two

My Kuroi nulltown read comes from his widespread engagement and what looks like consistent efforts to sort people. For example, he dropped a full readslist in 261 which I don't think anyone else has. 225 looks like an active town thought process, from one post he sorted Anen up to nullscum, these are the kind of posts I see town making. In 219 he directly pushed on Traveling Salesman, who is probably one of the most townread players in the game right now. Another scenario that I don't see scum engaging into. The reason he's only nulltown is due to his lower activity and a good chunk of his posts consist of little fluffs.

The post where you say that kuroi is nulltown is 222.

So it makes little(read none) sense that you give posts after them as reasons for your town read on kuroi.

The one post which you refer to which was made before 222 isn't a strong or even a weak town read of kuroi - it heavily depends on travelling salesman's actual alignment and just seems weak as a reason.

My townread has since evolved. There's nothing saying I can't use posts he made after the nulltown read I stated to explain my read.

Post 94 is also an excellent example for what I consider "looking like scumhunting".

Also, can't see town motivation for that post.

Trying to sort Kuroi?

[SirCakez]

The question was how did you end up having a null town read on someone who had very little posting at that time.

The answer requires you to post reasons prior to the even of you town reading him, not after.

Also, asking someone a silly question will never sort him.

From the posts he did make?
And it definitely can

[SirCakez]

Saying something is "too calm" looked like an accusation to me (._. )

[SirCakez]

How can someone being too calm be an accusation?

"too anything" sounds like an accusation to me

@SC it's just me

being lazy

waiting for more stuffs before I sort them.

There's a lot to sort both with tho

[SirCakez]

[
And most of them were alt shenanigan and some non-game-related stuff. They seemed to be emotionally upset when I read so I want the content some time after those.

Meeseeks especially has a lot of non-shenanigan content...

Meeseeks nullscum

ahahaha what? nullscum? after all youve said about me, im fucking

nullscum

? that just seems... wrong.

I don't have any really strong scumreads at this point. Fire Assasin has kind of drifted back to nullscum.

youre dodging my question here. i asked you why im nullscum despite what youve said about me, and youve said about fire. idgaf about fire. ansewr the damn question

Yes you're nullscum. There's only 13 pages, I don't have any uber super xD strong scumreads

He didn't say anything about disagreeing with shos wagon tho.

...but him supporting a rivaling wagon is a pretty clear indication that he disagrees with it though. subtext, reading between the lines, as irritating as i find it when people dont state reads its pretty obviously implied when he does something like that. come on.

Not really....
I've supported counter wagons without disagreeing with the other before

...then why is it weird that he supported a counter wagon without disagreeing with the other? youve just said you regularly do something that you scumread fire for, which seems counterintuitive at best

What?

How is this scummy?

im 90% sure i already explained this, but its asking questions to appear like youre doing something or thinking critically while actually acheieving very little.

And how do you know I'm not achieving anything?

the question was about whether or not something in another game actually happened or not, and you pretty much entirely knew im not lying because i would have to be a completely incompetent buffoon to lie about something so disprovable. ergo, asking about it is an attempt to look like youre doing something when in reality you achieve very little

I have some pretty solid reads so I haven't "achieved nothing".

And I am scumreading Meeseeks.

and you are

still not voting me

like what the holy balls youve made it abundantly clear im your strongest scumread yet your vote is still placed on your fire assassin vanity wagon while completely ignoring the building wagon on me. this isnt town, this is scum trying to avoid looking opportunistic by not joining a growing wagon
VOTE: sircakez

Huh good point
VOTE: Meeseeks

[SirCakez]

From the beginning of the game, I've immediately scum read Cakes and the reason for that was Killer Instinct Mafia. From the start, he acted completely different from the prior game (Sharing Is Caring - Open Game). I immediately town read him and I was sure he was town. Turned out - scum. So, he acts one way - scum. He changes his tune completely - scum. You can understand why I'm distrustful of him, and yeah, I can understand why I'd find it difficult to read him.

I missed this
This is pretty crap logic. You townread me as scum = when I act differently I'm also scum?

[SirCakez]

But it sounds like you're scumreading me here as well because my tone is different....

[SirCakez]

But it sounds like you're scumreading me here as well because my tone is different....

I explained why I scum read you toward the beginning of the game.

I'm not 100% sure on you now, so I'm waiting until you give off a town/scum tell.

Can you quote that explanation? I'm lazy.

Also, that discussion between 317–320.
Frankly, can't we just lynch Kuroi?

Kuroi shall not be lynched today
/me slaps

[SirCakez]

I forgot MoI was in the game damn
I think he's V/LA but still

[SirCakez]

@Anti can you prod Cabd?

[SirCakez]

Cakez. So I'm likely without a computer until tomorrow night since my wife is a possessive woman and we haven't had any time since the wedding. I'd suggest you try to take a look.

Look at what?

I am scumreading Meeseeks. This is really awful reasoning for a scumread. Like my townread on you just sank like a rock, that's how fake I think this is.

The reason it was pinging bnl was that you weren't yet putting your vote where your mouth was. The reason it was pinging me was similar: you were talking to Meeseeks like he was a scumread but you weren't voting him and it reminded me of your posturing with beeboy in Borderlands, where you were calling beeboy scummy but never voting him and defending him from Rob13's attacks on one page and then saying he's a good lynch on the very next page and always distancing never lynching. But this is pretty obviously preflip associatives so if I'm wrong about Meeseeks then never mind.

Yeah I think he's nullscum, I forgot to vote there honestly. I do that sometimes q.q

I don't have any really strong scumreads at this point. Fire Assassin has kind of drifted back to nullscum.

Fire needs to be doing more than he is, yeah.

/support

My Kuroi nulltown read comes from his widespread engagement and what looks like consistent efforts to sort people. For example, he dropped a full readslist in 261 which I don't think anyone else has. 225 looks like an active town thought process, from one post he sorted Anen up to nullscum, these are the kind of posts I see town making. In 219 he directly pushed on Traveling Salesman, who is probably one of the most townread players in the game right now. Another scenario that I don't see scum engaging into. The reason he's only nulltown is due to his lower activity and a good chunk of his posts consist of little fluffs.

Did you like Kuroi's readslist in 261, or did you just like that he produced one? Also I realise I just asked you for a towncase on him; I'd forgotten about this post when I did that. If you have more to say about Kuroi, then I'd like to hear it. If not, that's okay too.

Both. I don't have much more to say about him, the game is very slow and the gamestate hasn't really evolved since I posted that.

I have some pretty solid reads so I haven't "achieved nothing".

I'm not sure who your top 3 scumreads are from your ISO. help?

Meeseeks, Fire, and Java I think (haven't mentioned Java before, but I hate how much he's lurking). My reads here are muddled.

[SirCakez]

I kind of like slow games; less shit to wade through, easier to keep the train of thought, only a few pages to reread. Games with lots of spamming so much gets lost in the noise. Spammy games are fun when you've got lots of time and you're in the spammy group but not so much you don't have lots of time or aren't in the spammy group. I like this nice quiet game.

Cakes, I agree that Java isn't doing very much, but some people have made meta arguments that he's frequently like this, he's cited RL issues as an explanation for his inactivity, and his claim of double voter makes him likelier town than not.

I remember him being more active then this as town before, and very lurky as scum.

I want to respond to Plotinus, but I'm not going to be able to until tomorrow. At least for the long part.

And Cakes, you wanted me to quote something from Post 325. I can't do that right now.

oh right I forgot about that

[SirCakez]

My lynch pool atm is Meeseeks/Fire/Java/Cabd for doing nothing.
I probably won't compromise elsewhere. Maybe Chilled or Sheldon if necessary.

[SirCakez]

No, that's just for Cabd. The rest are scumreads from posts.

[SirCakez]

No, that's just for Cabd. The rest are scumreads from posts.

Ok. Can you give me a high level Fire scum read then? I don't need posts or quotes just a couple of lines.

Thanks!

After I finish catch up

Yes you're nullscum. There's only 13 pages, I don't have any uber super xD strong scumreads

there is a place between "uber super xd strong scumreads" and "nullscum". i was expressing distaste that, despite all that youve said about me being scum (and believe me its a lot), im still only nullscum. that seems like a cognitive dissonance and it is part of the large reason while im scumreading you; it looks like youre trying to emphasise that im scum without showing yourself scumreading me much so you can have an excuse not to vote me for whatever reason

You're a full scumread now so looks like your problem isn't an issue anymore!

you complained that he started a counter wagon without disagreeing with the other, saying that its scummy. you then said "ive supported counterwagons without disagreeing with the other before". you literally said you regularly did something you find scummy about him. more votes on this guy please???

great, im not talking about in general achieving nothing, stop misrepresenting what ive said. in fact i didnt even say achieve nothing i said achieve very little so youre literally lying about what i said. but regardless, the point is you asked that question which was ultimately pointelss as it achieved nothing. youve misrepresented my intentions in this reply as well as literally misquoting me

It wasn't pointless, it helped my reads. gtfo.

sircakez why was i only nullscum?

Because there was very little game content to go off of. Even now the game is fairly small.

Kuroi shall not be lynched today
/me slaps

But why?

Because he's town.

@Anti can you prod Cabd?

This is strange.
SirCakez wanted to get Cabd prodded.
A short later I was deep in the prod zone too. He posted at that time. And there was no such thing from him about me.

Because you're contributing and Cabd isn't.

Meeseeks, Fire, and Java I think (haven't mentioned Java before, but I hate how much he's lurking). My reads here are muddled.

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
That Java read was very off!
I don't think is lurking more than certain other players!
What if you just want to get rid of him because of his PR?!

Other players are contributing more then him.

[SirCakez]

Where is the Sheldon altslip qq

My scumread on Fire comes from his lack of engagement and his content very early game. In my case on Fire earlier I discussed what I didn't like about his early game content. As he's been basically prodging since then, nothing has really changed about my scumread there. He's not trying to find scum at all.

[SirCakez]

Who is Sheldon's alt wtf
If Java is a votestealer he's assuredly scum
I think you might be right on that actually

[SirCakez]

Oh shoot your current pick for the scumtwam is the same as mine
Glad to see our reads have aligned

[SirCakez]

scum team*

[SirCakez]

Actually no I just realized Meeseeks and Java can't be scum together
One of them is very likely scum though

[SirCakez]

I only see one person saying townbeard a lot and I'm pretty sure they aren't Sheldon.
qq

[SirCakez]

OH I THINK I FIGURED OUT WHO MEESEEKS IS
I think I might have been reading him completely wrong

[SirCakez]

Wait no I'm a dumbass
Forget I said that!

[SirCakez]

You should claim

[SirCakez]

Fire sheeping Meeseeks just makes me more confident on scum there
Java may be town

[SirCakez]

Fire sheeping Meeseeks just makes me more confident on scum there
Java may be town

why did you ask me to claim and then make absolutely no comment about my claim?

Because all you claimed was "investigative" and not actually a real full claim


Look at this counterwagon on me to scum Meeseeks that's popped up lmao
He's dying either way

[SirCakez]

That was a soft Meeseeks
Also VOTE: Fire Assassin
Since your claim is apparently pretty strong so I'll hold off on Meeseeks until tomorrow

[SirCakez]

cool

...

my reads are still independent of the neighbourhood

id much rather trust my own intuitions on scumreads than pay less attention to 10 of the players because there may be a higher chance of scum being in the neighbourhood

I don't buy this at all, considering I'm in the hood with you

[SirCakez]

I'll just get my claim out now
I'm Francium, Vengeful Reactive Neighbor
Anyone who targets me will be told I'm Francium
Vengeful is obvious
I'm in the hood with Meeseeks and one other who I won't out for now

[SirCakez]

So if I'm lynched I'm vengekilling Meeseeks or Fire Assassin probably
Not sure yet

[SirCakez]

Shos could be scum, I can't remember any of his posting

[SirCakez]

VOTE: shos
Let's go

[SirCakez]

Shos isn't voting me

[SirCakez]

I'm just reallllly sick of being mislynched so my emotions are telling to get revenge and take out the main guy pushing me for being a dumbass but my logical side is saying Meeseeks could be town with his claim so I'm all confused

[SirCakez]

That's why I want to get rid of Fire Assassin or Shos instead

[SirCakez]

Let's be real I would've been put to L-1 soon enough, I'm super fucking easy to mislynch

[SirCakez]

If I get lynched and shoot Mees and he flips town then the last neighbor is like 99% scum
I kinda think we should out him, he's a scumbutt anyway

[SirCakez]

We need someone in the Javajoe slot

[SirCakez]

fyi I am starting to develop a townread on Meeseeks based from his claim and behavior towards me post-claim
I would now prefer a Vengekill on Fire or Shos

[SirCakez]

I'm not sure what that's supposed to do Kuroi, ask Anti!

[SirCakez]

I guess it's kind of like a reverse Fruit Vendor or something? I can't think of any real utility for it.

[SirCakez]

Meeseeks doesn't need to claim stop

[SirCakez]

Kuroi vote Shos, he's scum

[SirCakez]

He's definitely not anywhere close to L-1 if that's what you're worried of

[SirCakez]

Shos claim pls

[SirCakez]

Yes I'm in the same hood with Meeseeks (._. )

[SirCakez]

Someone give intent

[SirCakez]

The fact Shos just stopped posting instead of giving thoughts after the "hammer" feels like a pretty damn scummy reaction

[SirCakez]

I was out on a bike ride for a while and just returned when I made that post?

[SirCakez]

I have Meeseeks as a townread now, would not vote there.
Java's contributions in the hood were lackluster and his posts outside of the hood have been lackluster.

VOTE: javajoe

[SirCakez]

Cakes, can you go into more details about the nature of the lacklustre neighbourhood posting?

He made one post saying he was surprised by the Shos flip and that he thought I was the scum in the hood. Nothing else during the night, he made some other comments earlier that looked NAI to me.

@Meseeks, Cakez, Java

assuming there's exactly 1 scum in the hood who do you think it is?

Java easily

[SirCakez]

I am standing by my Kuroi townread.
Still think Fire Assassin is scum.

I have no clue how to read Anen. I see some people calling him scum. Could you ELI5 for me? Thanks.

[SirCakez]

I said Meeseeks was scum in the hood ages ago, that's changed since.
Fire I already talked about my scumread on you and townread on Kuroi.

[SirCakez]

Sheldon moves to nulltown read
That big post really reeks town to me

I could vote Chilled but I'm more convinced Java is scum currently.

@GiF you should read my claim yesterday T_T

[SirCakez]

Cakey

oh this narrows down who you could be
maybe you are that one person who said townbeard a lot in the search

[SirCakez]

Oh also I forgot to ask Sir if the joke was funny.

oh lol that's where that was from
yeah it was

VOTE: cakez

I am going to assume there is at least one scum in the hood, and my bet is on cakez over meseeks

You still have yet to give a case for this

I have Meeseeks as a townread now, would not vote there.
Java's contributions in the hood were lackluster and his posts outside of the hood have been lackluster.
VOTE: javajoe

Was he posting anywhere else on the site meanwhile?
According to the postcount posted here he posted just as many.

Yeah I think he was.

Anen wagon is terrible.

[SirCakez]

Because it's clearly a counterwagon to scum!CT and Java

I've already explained my Java scumread more then once

[SirCakez]

Because it's clearly a counterwagon to scum!CT and Java

I've already explained my Java scumread more then once

Oh, really?

354 - You say how you hate how much he's lurking.
362 - You said that if he's lurky, he's scum. Fine.
374 - You put him in your lynch pool. Okay.
422 - You say others contribute more. Alright.
433 - You say Meeseeks or Java is scum. I agree, but in different ways. You think Java is scum. I say Meeseeks is scum.

So I'm fine with your scrutiny, UNTIL you say this:

481 - "Java may be town" That takes away everything you've said before. If you've scum read him the entire time, he's finally turned you around.

Then your next post that talks about him is:

"We need someone in the Javajoe slot" - Which basically says nothing to him except that he lurks.
739 - The only thing that says something other than his activity or lack thereof, and it's vague.
774 - You said Java is scummiest out of everyone in the neighborhood. So you said that he's scummiest, but not why.
798 - You're convinced Java is scum but not said why.
848 - Told Java that he didn't give a case for his vote. (It's actually quite hypocritical since you didn't give a case, either.)

Indeed I began to think he could be town because I thought Meeseeks was scum. Then night happened and I now think Java is the scum in the hood for complete lack of engagement.

[SirCakez]

SirCakez, but you said you've explained his scum read twice. You haven't. Lack of engagement is not a reason. It's NAI.

It is when he specifically avoided talking in the hood, which is apparently a scum tell, and is matching his scum meta to a T.

[SirCakez]

From your one post in the hood overnight despite being asked to discuss your reasons for thinking I was scum?

[SirCakez]

Java your answer was that Meeseeks is more sincere then me.
like wat, you have to have more to say then that

VOTE: chilledtea
just to consolidate away from this terrible Anen wagon

[SirCakez]

Cakes, in 481, are you saying that Fire sheeping Meeseeks made you think they were scum together? I know you've changed your mind since then but can you talk some more about that theory?

Oh also I forgot to ask Sir if the joke was funny.

oh lol that's where that was from
yeah it was

Help I need jokeexplainbot

At the time I thought it meant Meeseeks and Fire were scum together yes. That view has changed since though.
I was sent a joke about water last night. It was actually pretty funny, it looks like GiF is claiming he sent it.

Cakez just said the wagon was terrible. That doesn't mean he won't vote him. But even if you're right, there's 11 people here. If three don't vote him, there are eight who may. With a six-person threshold, his lynch is most definitely viable.

Yes I think Anen is town on the basis of the bad wagon on him

wait i should probably, you know

sorry antihero, replacing out

Welp bye Meeseeks

The extreme difficulty of putting votes on Java is a huge scum indicator btw

[SirCakez]

Hi Ranger
Your reads are stinky but that should fix itself hopefully given you're in a town slot

Welcome to the game Ranger. You are being almost universally scum read right now by most players, not sure why myself though.

Universally scum read? More like universally townread.

You really have to be shitting me on this replacement.
Time to go complain to antihero.

More scum posting from the Assassin

[SirCakez]

Is that flailing I hear from Fire?
BNL your latter reads stink.

[SirCakez]

Catch up here later, sorry

[SirCakez]

I don't think you know what flailing is.
I literally repeated what you said word for word in a sarcastic fashion.

That looked like flailing to me

I mean this is a U-Pick so role madness is assumed but man 4 investigatives sounds too much to me.

I agree with this actually
My read on Anen sinks from this as he looks like the worst of the Invest claimants to me

Alright fuck this.

VOTE: Ranger

This vote is atrocious

If FA's saying that he's going to policy lynch me because he can't fucking read me then I'll happily vote him.
Ranger's reads are garbage tier and I don't agree with any of them and that's usually a scumclaim from her.

Ranger's reads being bad is NAI, she has both good and bad reads as town (sorry Ranger <3)

Tempted to vote Sheldon but he had that really townie post earlier so I'll hold off and do this instead
VOTE: Fire Assassin

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE:
Will be here later

[SirCakez]

I do not intend to full reveal but I can say my role is cop variant.
That is all I am saying.

Like others have said, the not-full claiming here is atrocious.

Also,

Ranger's reads being bad is NAI, she has both good and bad reads as town (sorry Ranger <3)

I don't think a town-you says this. A town you has been

absolutely smoked

by a scum-me having "bad reads".

I've also seen you have bad reads as town in Musical Mafia for example.

[SirCakez]

For the record i am also partly investigative of sorts.


SO basically I'm operating on the assumption that setup will tell us NOTHING.

Spoiler:

Okay so here's what's up.

Here's a list of the people who purportedly discovered my main.

Fire Assassin (Which makes total sense.)
ChilledTea (which what?)
Travelling Salesman (Who spent a long time trying to figure this out before the game even started.)
Adenine (Who knew because I specifically revealed to him when I figured out he was town.)

Which is funny Ranger's not on that list despite being the #1 person most likely to figure out that I was an RC alt short of Fire Assassin.
Yet Ranger claimed to believe that I'm Titus. And instead suggested that Meseeks is an RC alt?

First off, Davsto is pretty fucking obviously not me. Second of all, how the fuck does Ranger not figure me out?

So here's what I'm pretty sure happened.

Fire Assassin knew I was SheldonCooper because I told him. He rolled scum and told his scumpartners.
That explains Meseeks pulling out specifically quotes by me to defend himself which I townread at the time but now feels dirty and manipulative as fuck.
That also explains how ChilledTea figured it out even though ChilledTea has played like 5 games with me and there's no other reasoning.

When Ranger replaced in, she saw that her slot was pretending not to know and continued playing it up, and to make an excuse for why she wouldn't notice she pretended she thought her predecessor was me and said that I was Titus.

And Titus isn't even a terrible pick, but what are the chances that she randomly happens to pick that is in my signature randomly? Are there any actual similarities between my play and Tituses? I understand that Cakez came to that conclusion at one point but that was because of the Cakey thing and the townbeard thing. THIS WASN'T AVAILABLE AT THE POINT RANGER WAS CLAIMING TO BE IN THE GAME, SO WHY DOES RANGER NOT RECOGNIZE ME AND WHY DOES SHE THINK THAT I'M TITUS. THERE'S LITERALLY NO WAY THAT THIS IS TOWN.

And for the love of annie fucking hastur we disagree on virtually all of our reads. we have NEVER been this discordant in reads when we were both town, ever.

Scumteam is Ranger/Chilled/Fire Assassin. We're lynching Ranger first so that she doesn't talk her way out of it.

ok this big rant about your alt is fun and all but I don't see how this connects to Ranger being scum
Meeseeks was super town at the end and Ranger hasn't been very scummy and has a strong af claim (although her reads are balls) so I'm gonna need more then this

I'm sure you're being cautious by unvoting, but it looks like you're really sucking up to RC.

BTW, since it works, answer us, Aneninen. We haven't forgotten about you.

I hadn't read the game and saw a request for an unvote so I did it. Not sure how that = sucking up

[SirCakez]

I don't see any new votes for Ranger. Doesn't anybody want a bunny?

I would be interested in basically anyone in your scum pool but Ranger

[SirCakez]

Catch up here tomorrow morning

[SirCakez]

Catching up here now

[SirCakez]

Though, in case the question comes up anyway...

Do you know who you would've killed last night if you were scum, Ranger?

If I had been in the game N1, SirCakez would be out of the question: narrowing down the neighborhood would be potentially suicidal. That same logic technically applies to Javajoe, but he's not someone I'd exactly put much stock into nightkilling. (No offense. <3) Working under the assumption I knew who Sheldon was, that'd be my nightkill, obviously, but if not, the most obvious choice would be Traveling Salesman thanks to Plotinus. After that, for purely pragmatic reasons (those being, he often scumreads me), Fire Assassin.

There's more players than that. Aneninen would be near the top of my charts, since he's a good player in my experience. Kuroi, from experience and play this game, wouldn't have been a bad choice, either. When it comes to {GIF, chilledtea, Cabd, MagnaofIllusion}, they're basically all equals, in being middle-of-the-road kills. To put it in tiers,
{RadiantCowbells, Traveling Salesman}
{Fire Assassin}
{Aneninen}
{Kuroi}
{GIF, chilledtea, Cabd, MagnaofIllusion}
{Sheldon}
{Javajoe, SirCakez}

Ok this readslist is atrocious and Ranger's posting has been pretty awful but Meeseeks was sooo town

If we lynch Ranger and she flips town there absolutely must be a lynch in (Fire, Java) tomorrow.

[SirCakez]

>.>
<.<
>.<

[SirCakez]

This is 100% not Java's town game

If Ranger townflips he has to go

[SirCakez]

Was that hammer?

[SirCakez]

blehhh
I'll hammer if necessary

[SirCakez]

^ dies tomorrow

[SirCakez]

I would prefer if you got NKed too

[SirCakez]

Sooo RC what's that about Ranger being scum?

[SirCakez]

are you serious? I sat on a Java vote for like half of day 2

[SirCakez]

I'm not sure he's scum anymore

[SirCakez]

RC what caused you to read Ranger so wrongly? This is important.

Overnight my reads shifted a lot. I'm no longer certain on FA and Java scum. Kuroi and RC have tentatively moved into my scum pile instead.

[SirCakez]

Oh so RC is just scum ok
Usually when I see you mislynch someone you're typically very good at reading as town you make some sort of comment on it the next day (that newbie game with accountant). Here you just immediately moved on and gave no regard to Ranger's reads, who's reads you highly respect too.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: RC

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE:
I think town!RC would say that

And Java's jump on you feels bad

Java a question - does your double vote disable in LyLo?

[SirCakez]

yeah chilled is prob scum

[SirCakez]

Kuroi you're probably his buddy sool

[SirCakez]

Kuroi you're probably his buddy soo

Stupid typo

[SirCakez]

Good point
VOTE: Kuroi

[SirCakez]

Chilled's

[SirCakez]

I already claimed my role....

[SirCakez]

Oh nvm about the claim
How is Mojo Jojo sciencey da fuq

[SirCakez]

I'll just get my claim out now
I'm Francium, Vengeful Reactive Neighbor
Anyone who targets me will be told I'm Francium
Vengeful is obvious
I'm in the hood with Meeseeks and one other who I won't out for now

@Anen

Kuroi, your claim isn't confirmed to be town, it's just confirmed
mafia trackers are a thing

[SirCakez]

even though chilled is probably scum, kuroi's assessment is pretty accurate there lol

[SirCakez]

literally read five posts up fire

[SirCakez]

chilledtea is always an easy lynch, huh?

[SirCakez]

{Guyinfreezer}
{aneninen}
{fire assassin, radiantcowbells}
{cabd, java}
{Kuroi}
{chilled}

[SirCakez]

lurk a derping the whole game

[SirCakez]

Because Anen's posts contribute a heck of a lot more then Chilled's

[SirCakez]

Cabd always lurks, see Assassin's Creed 4

[SirCakez]

your links are busted

[SirCakez]

Yes I didn't look at this game for a few hours must be scum hurr durr
Chilled you are lurking though. You're barely engaging or pushing anyone.

[SirCakez]

Yeah because it got bumped in my egosearch by your post

[SirCakez]

Egosearch = list of topics I've posted in
Most recent posts are at the top, so this game was down the pole for a while until your post

I didn't laugh it aside, I explained how he was lurking lol

[SirCakez]

What?

[SirCakez]

The part where you said you're stuck
What are you stuck on?

[SirCakez]

Why is chilled your top townread lol

[SirCakez]

Which game? Sorry if I missed it before

[SirCakez]

(Kuroi, Chilled, FA)
I'm prob not voting outside of this

[SirCakez]

Yes my FA read has gone back to scum, he's been dodgy the whole day

[SirCakez]

I disagree but I don't think he's scum right now

[SirCakez]

Yep
Also your posting today has pinged me a lot

[SirCakez]

The stuff where you went after me for not posting for a few hours when chilled asked me about how he was lurking
That's not AI at all

[SirCakez]

We lynch either RC, or FA today. Anything else has a high chance of being a mislynch.

*pukes*

[SirCakez]

you say who everyone in the game visited for one night?

[SirCakez]

what?

[SirCakez]

So who visited Magna?

[SirCakez]

So who visited Magna?

[SirCakez]

OH you see the flavor, not the people who visit lol
I was so confused
hmm

[SirCakez]

RC flavor claim, it means nothing

[SirCakez]

can agree on that
VOTE: chilled
let's go here

[SirCakez]

Chilled/Fa, I think RC is right here

[SirCakez]

RC your java vote is terrible
let's get chilled or fa

[SirCakez]

RC/Java stop squabbling and help lynch scum!chilled

[SirCakez]

you can't be serious

[SirCakez]

I could have sworn I posted one a while ago

[SirCakez]

It's not just those three posts Java, those were examples

[SirCakez]

No, it was something bigger
I might have written it in the hood

[SirCakez]

It's not just those three posts Java, those were examples

Then please make a case for town!RC for me here? And do not use meta, I don't give two shits about meta.

Reading RC without meta doesn't work >.<

[SirCakez]

Wat
I'm townreading you

[SirCakez]

Oh I thought the middle paragraph was referring to me

[SirCakez]

RC stop trying to PL someone when we've mislynched twice already

[SirCakez]

ffs chilled is going to endgame as scum
VOTE: Fire assassin
claim pls

[SirCakez]

Huh? What about it?

[SirCakez]

flavor?

[SirCakez]

how does that fit modifier checker?

[SirCakez]

there should be some explanation on your rolecard

[SirCakez]

ok I'm good with a hammer now

[SirCakez]

RC I was trying to start a chilled wagon ages ago, you missed your chance
FA took way too long to post that flavor so I don't buy it

[SirCakez]

Chilled is scum tho

[SirCakez]

Java stop being a dumbass and hammer FA

[SirCakez]

This game is terrible.

Don't hammer RC GiF, move your votes to FA

FA scum flip probably means Java is scum

[SirCakez]

We need RC and one of the two-non voters to push FA through
I'm assuming the absurd resistance to this lynch means scum

Which likely means all of the remaining scum are in (FA, chilled, java, Kuroi)

[SirCakez]

Anti can you update the title?

[SirCakez]

why didn't you go along with my chilled push earlier ffs

[SirCakez]

He's purposefully avoiding any wagon that isn't RC because he knows that won't go through today

[SirCakez]

more crap from scum!kuroi, no doubt

[SirCakez]

gif what the hell?

[SirCakez]

I'm not, but we were finally about to push FA through and now we switch? Seems shaky, but I'll go along

VOTE: chilledtea

[SirCakez]

What's shaky about lynching someone who isn't even confirming that they were jailkept?

It's shaky that we're switching off FA just as we were getting to a hammer on him.

[SirCakez]

why has java made no mention of this?

[SirCakez]

meeseeks slot never mentioned it either....

[SirCakez]

that's sketchy af

[SirCakez]

RC is the only protective claim with multiple machos claimed, he's town

[SirCakez]

how is cabd conftown?

[SirCakez]

Fruit vendor normally only sends some message, like the joke
The universe message must have been a friendly neighbor usage from him

[SirCakez]

kuroi/java/third person

at this point i could give a fuck

[SirCakez]

oh yeah the third is probably either anen or the cabd slot

[SirCakez]

oh and FA is still in the pool too ffs
if java is scum we just lose actually soooo

[SirCakez]

not necessarily, given not everyone has checked in and you could just be waiting to quickhammer
also your double vote could have disabled now for all we know

[SirCakez]

not necessarily, if town could pull the votes together on the double voting scum faster then scum could quickhammer

[SirCakez]

if you just left your vote sitting on someone it would be pretty obvious you were scum

[SirCakez]

not if town lynched you first
we're going in circles

[SirCakez]

that's what I was thinking, but there's no way to test without him leaving his vote sitting on someone which is risky if he is actually town

[SirCakez]

you mean anti?
I have no idea if that's even possible or not (asking the mod to do a vc for the time the vote was down)

[SirCakez]

kuroi/cabd/anen?

fa's claim is so sketchy though

I think cabd is definitely scum though

[SirCakez]

i really don't think anen has been that townie but cabd should die first
then prob either kuroi or fa

[SirCakez]

I will trust your judgement on this

[SirCakez]

FA claimed modifier cop and confirmed he got two modifiers from me

[SirCakez]

yeah that makes sense, I'm fine being lynched at the end

[SirCakez]

If that's it it's easy, we lynch cabd, fa, then have anen vote to lynch me and I venge him
if I get NKed it gets screwed up though

[SirCakez]

Cabd slot goes today, yeah

[SirCakez]

The lack of catchup or anything really from DGB is pretty much a acumfession

[SirCakez]

java go

[SirCakez]

I have no night actions obviously

[SirCakez]

I'm pretty sure everyone but the cabd slot has claimed

[SirCakez]

and cabd slot needs to claim obviously

[SirCakez]

given that anti still had cabd in the vcs, DGB might not even know the day started lol

[SirCakez]

sorry
you're still scum tho