Mini 1821 Badass Women U-Pick Mafia - game over

[Layla]

I've heard that this game is in need of a masochist.
So here I am.

[Layla]

Your view of this game, please.

[Layla]

Long time no see, indeed.
Your view of this game, please.

[Layla]

Thank you.
Are you town?

[Layla]

Dear lord, page 5 and it's already getting cringy.

[Layla]

Ok, sheeping.

VOTE: Ari

[Layla]

That's most likely a town move regardless of guilt.

[Layla]

we cld lynch luna

Over my dead body.

[Layla]

Ok I finished reading but without glasses so I skipped all the long posts for now. I'll get to them when I find my darn glasses.

[Layla]

Oh my dear heaven lord etc etc

I was scared that I might've accidentally hammered Ari.

UNVOTE:

He's on L-2 now.

[Layla]

Also every time I read Yume's posts it brings up my inner sadism.

[Layla]

Skybird ISO I want to townread.

[Layla]

Foxbird*

[Layla]

I'm going to be honest with you, I didn't realize that I put him at L-1 until I actually paid attention to votes.

[Layla]

We have time to make sure we get the lynch right. Unvoting until I get a read on Layla.

UNVOTE: Layla

Hi Layla, have we played together before?

I don't think so.

[Layla]

I don't want a hammer until Layla generates content, either.

Would you like to know a secret?

[Layla]

Spoiler: FOR UTL ONLY DON'T OPEN IF YOU'RE NOT UTL

I'm town.

[Layla]

Is it just me or do I not like Layla's posting? Lol

I think it is just you.
My posts are adorable and has no reason not to like it.

[Layla]

Well, declaring V/LA every single day is stupid.

Then list yourself as LA for few weeks. Problem solved.

[Layla]

I don't want a hammer until Layla generates content, either.

Prod dodge.

[Layla]

Don't know.

My plan was to fluff this game to happiness and then do stuff.

[Layla]

can you explain this read?

Luna is very easy to read.
Must I really explain?

[Layla]

Hint: Personally break rarely RARELY comes from scum. Very unorthodox way to read players but also very effective way to read players.

[Layla]

Hint: Personally break rarely RARELY comes from scum. Very unorthodox way to read players but also very effective way to read players.

. . . . . . .

please don't tell me you're actually serious.

That's how I've been playing mafia for 3 years, bby.

[Layla]

Layla you should sheep Luna onto Aris.

Call me GIF.
I'm not even trying to hide it anyway.

I joined as this alt just to follow the flavor.

[Layla]

my heart just broke into a million tiny pieces.

you actually are just scum, aren't you?

Nope!

That's actually how I read people like Mara because it's a very easy way out.

[Layla]

I've never played with GIF, only have sitechat experience with him. Do you have game experience with him?

Oh, trust me.
A lot.

[Layla]

People put important things on sigs???

[Layla]

1. all it was was like one or two posts where Luna lashed out at Nahdia which really weren't that town

That's all I need to townread people.
If you haven't noticed how easy it takes for me to townread people, I guess it is my turn to go completely insane.

2. you saw that infamous swag-wars game where I coasted on ffery/notsci town reading me for that same exact thing and went on to win the game.

What's that game again?
Oh that game.

I townread everyone except {Nacho, magic, Aneninenineni, pieguy}.

[Layla]

If you mean the later parts, I never read that game to completion.

[Layla]

If you mean the later parts, I never read that game to completion.

I am pretty sure I told you what happened in that game? tl;dr is I completely lost it and had a huge emotional breakdown and ffery and notsci treated me as confirmed town for it.

I'm not saying that what happened here was the exact same thing, but the key point is that it absolutely is not difficult for scum to get angry and snap at people, especially if it's something minor like what happened with Luna earlier. I have a *lot* of trouble believing you don't know this and I don't believe you think this is a good reason to town read her, especially for someone like her who is more than capable of playing the emotional game as scum.

While it would be fun to just say "Eh? Nandatte?" and watch you go completely insane but my sadism level is not high enough yet.

Also I really do believe that's a good reason to townread her.
What, do you think that her personality break was not natrually built upon and could've been faked?

[Layla]

*I* would be capable of faking that.

it's really easily fakeable, and it's completely baffling to me that you seem to think otherwise.

I mean technically *everyone* would be capable of faking that.
Hell, even *I* am capable of faking that.

It's easily fakeable, but you don't-

Oh ok I see the problem now.
Let me change the hint I posted.

Hint:

NON-INTENTIONAL

Personally break rarely RARELY comes from scum. Very unorthodox way to read players but also very effective way to read players.

[Layla]

if Layla flips scum, though, she goes next, 100%.

Oh, are we playing this game again?
Sure, I'll play.

I flip town, your vote is Yume's for the rest of the game.

[Layla]

Do you not townread her?
Also she's the most hilarious choice.

[Layla]

GIF, I will fucking kill you.

I could support "if I'm town sheep my reads the rest of the game", but _Yume_???

No compromise.

It's my way or the highway.

[Layla]

Can we just lynch yume instead?

She's more town than pieguy, sadly.
I could come up with some BS to "scumlynch" her but that's not the path I chose to take this game.

[Layla]

I mean, I don't have enough reads to do that condition yet. What else did you expect?

I literally have two townreads on my own and sheeping Luna for the rest.

[Layla]

CAN I POST LADIES

[Layla]

I forgot.

What was your Luna read again, TTH?

[Layla]

Also I don't necessarily scumread pie for what he's doing.

I just think he's playing too... carefully? Usually that + trying to explain self doesn't really mesh together though.

[Layla]

Also please don't discourage him from going off at my slot.
I replaced in fully knowing that he was doing it after all.

[Layla]

I need a mafia break.

Accept me as town and sheep my future reads
and I'll show you how peaceful mafia game can be sometimes.

[Layla]

Ugh can we not spam fluff. I'm going to have a hard enough time staying caught up and this will make it worse.

Also I don't really know where my reads are right now UTL.

Sorry if my posts look fluffy right now.
I'm here fixing general toxicity problem. After that I'll get serious. Promise.

[Layla]

No, wait.

I have 3 reads.

Foxbird, Luna, Yume town.

[Layla]

I mean I got myself ready to take everything you shoot at me.
So don't hold back.

[Layla]

My lips are sealed.

[Layla]

If I vote Yume it's going to be for utility lynch.

[Layla]

I looked at Mala's ISO and oh look, null.

[Layla]

Rats. I should've feigned a townread instead.

@TTH: reason for foxbird scumread?

[Layla]

I see with my own two eyes, a disagreement!

[Layla]

I guess that was her prod dodge.

[Layla]

That's an elegance way of saying "yeah it's a prod dodge."

Also I'm town!

[Layla]

Elegant*

[Layla]

Unfortunately though, I have no way to hard prove it without getting modkilled.

I would claim if my role sounded really town just so you can be slightly more motivated but my role is, to be honest, scummy as f role to claim lol.

[Layla]

Like, I replaced in just because you and pie were voting a painfully obvious town slot and I'm met with bunch of "meh game too toxic no motivation".

You have no idea how disappointed I am right now.

[Layla]

"Hi I'm here to remind you that this slot is scum."

That's how cool peeps prod dodge these days.

[Layla]

Ah well, I'll come back to this thread later.
Have been feeling slightly gloomy and I don't want that spreading in this game.

[Layla]

tth is cranky town

Is this just for the post that you quoted?

[Layla]

How does your reads look right now?

You give me yours, I'll give you mine.

[Layla]

I mean mine isn't something to be proud of either given the game state right now.

{Luna, Foxbird, beeboy, Yume, UTL,

pieguyn

, TTH} town is all I got right now.

Rest are unsorted. Normally by this point I have my first draft of full PoE.

[Layla]

And townreads are mostly for minor tidbit reasons.

[Layla]

I mean mine isn't something to be proud of either given the game state right now.

{Luna, Foxbird, beeboy, Yume, UTL,

pieguyn

, TTH} town is all I got right now.

Rest are unsorted. Normally by this point I have my first draft of full PoE.

so you have 5 left to sort yeah?

so what help do you need in sorting the rest?

Mostly wanted to see if you had any reads that I didn't have.

[Layla]

Thinking more and more that scumz this game are 100% in apathetic group.
Game's hard for scum when a lot of people obvtown themselves after all.

[Layla]

I can make something magical happen.
You probably won't like it though.

[Layla]

I think we are thinking the same thing.

[Layla]

Don't worry, I know better lol

[Layla]

Ari.

He's at L-1.

[Layla]

Yeah I realized.

[Layla]

How does your reads look right now?

[Layla]

How does your reads look right now?

[Layla]

Does it matter? UTL wants me gone and will somehow pull off getting me lynched, and when I flip town, he'll pretend it never happened. That's how egoistical people like him operate. It's not 'she doesn't do anything', but when I give a list, he'll deem it fake because he's scum on it. Just watch

Town: Layla
Null: people
Scum: UTL

Now watch.

I mean reads always matter no matter the circumstances. Scum can only pretend that nothing happened only if you let them. If you go all defeatist and gets mislynched, you are giving scum easy excuses to get away with it. Don't overassume things. Take a deep breath before you do something rash. With that said, I disagree with your UTL read.

Outline me the reason for the scumread, please.
I mean, I already know why. I just want you to list them again.

[Layla]

(Psst Layla. She's just playing the victim here.)

NAI.

[Layla]

Because she is 100 % sure that I am scum. No second thoughts. No considering other possibilities. She straight up refuses to consider any other possibilities. While, it's true that she did consider other possibilities before I started posting again, the moment I did, she stopped. Her waiting for Ari to claim despite there being no realistic chance of that happening also doesn't sit with me well.

If you disagree, prove to me that Ari would magically show up despite avoiding this thread. Then I will move my vote.

Sadly, thinking twice is not everyone does and it's not really alignment indicative.
Also re: Ari showing up or not, well, he was prodded. He either shows up today or get replaced.

[Layla]

Hello. I'm back form work and am happy to see posts.


*reads posts*


*reads more posts*


*finished reading*

[Layla]

I personally do not think that pie is scumreading me at this point.

[Layla]

.......... whatever.

intent to hammer Aris.

No.

[Layla]

We are not ending Day 1 until LLD has at least 30 posts.

[Layla]

Like, I've been wanting to actually try reading LLD for a WHILE now.

[Layla]

Oh pie, since you're here, deal or no deal?

I still haven't gotten my answer.

[Layla]

I should visit Mala tonight.

[Layla]

Being bored is a great reason for everything.

[Layla]

I haven't even fucking done anything!

My god.

That is a perfectly valid reason though

[Layla]

Screw the claim

Where are the reads

[Layla]

Well then, time to work, Ari!

[Layla]

So we again reached the point where we're holding on everything :V

[Layla]

My only concern of ending the day now would be some people will be left as contentless null.

[Layla]

Actually I think the opposite because your description of your vig is already hard as f to land it and giving scums the ability to stop the vigshot would be an overkill.

[Layla]

Also I must say I'm disappointed in Ari catch up (don't worry Ari, if I can read it, it's not a wall.) but then I expected it to be terrible anyway because regardless of his alignment the catch up was rushed.

[Layla]

It's even more disappointing when Ari is scumreading kraska but only one of my post was mentioned and it was to use a lol emoji.

[Layla]

Also I'm very thrilled to see Mala finally seeing her awaited Ari posts and posting her opinions that she've been waiting really patiently for.
(What? She never said that? You see, Mala is kinda shy but I can easily tell from her posts that she've been wanting this the whole time.)

[Layla]

Also I'm very thrilled to see Mala finally seeing her awaited Ari posts and posting her opinions that she've been waiting really patiently for.
(What? She never said that? You see, Mala is kinda shy but I can easily tell from her posts that she've been wanting this the whole time.)

Yeah shut up. I never did say that nor was I thinking that. But you can keep telling yourself that you know what I think, but in the end you never will.

Oh dear lord.

I was kinda worried that you might actually take this seriously.
And you actually took this seriously.

I already had enough mindfuck for today. Two is two much.

[Layla]

But yeah, I do want you to be more sharing opinions and such instead of only replying to my bait post like that.

[Layla]

Like I'd lynch UTL today.

Do you think how Nahdia replaced out is scummy?

[Layla]

and that's only the most recent thing; your play this entire game has been really off. I seriously want you to let me know if there's some sort of external thing that's affecting you that I'm not aware of, because I would hate to lynch you over this and it turns out all of what I'm seeing had some other thing causing all of it.

p-edit: you assume that when I have a scum read on you despite the fact you put a significant amount of effort trying to get me to see GIF was town.

Pie

Trust in GIF

[Layla]

I don't have anything to say to you, I'm not here to appease you, I'm here to find town and lynch scum. And furthermore im currently not townreading you so i dont really care what your read on me is, because in the off chance that you're town, it's wrong.

Trust in GIF

[Layla]

Not everyone, but just them.
I'm telling them to trust my read on them.

[Layla]

Oh also before I forget

Mod: Limited Access until 21th due to moving.

[Layla]

And putting it out here that if peeps don't like the current wagon choices, Mala is also a viable choice.

[Layla]

"Hey Layla, do you townread mollie?"

No, not really. She's still in the "not my townread" pile.

"Then why mention Mala out of anyone else?"

Who has mentioned Mala so far?
Aye, that's right.

[Layla]

Actively pursuing for Mala lynch would mean I'm fighting the losing battle though.
I don't have any content from her posts to work with aside from, like, what, 2 posts?
At this point, the only thing I have on her is, well, "she's not doing anything." And this is not enough to garner enough supports for a lynch.

I mean, if I really want to squeeze something out of it, I could say "her reads are too easy", but again, that's not enough.

"What makes Mala different from mollie?"

At least mollie is posting stuff. I mean, yeah, those are easy stuffs to post, but at least she's (pretending to, if scum) doing stuff.

Now back to the original thing you asked me.

LLD I haven't sorted her yet. I do want to know the reason for her UTL scumread though.

[Layla]

So who do I want to vote today?
I'll just follow the biggest wagon that forms near the deadline, I guess.

[Layla]

This game is pretty frustrating that aside from obvious towns being obviously town, nulls are really hard to sort right now.

[Layla]

One thing I do know though, is that mala hates being scum.

[Layla]

{You, Skybird, LLD, Mala}.

Well, if you take my non-townreads at a face value I don't think you can help me sort others.

Hmm, now that I actually write down my reads, there are not much left, lol.

[Layla]

Here's the fun part though.

Skybird and Mala I have no trouble seeing them go.

You and LLD I can find reasons to townread.
And if both are town that means one of my townread is incorrect.

[Layla]

Uptoolate - Nahdia rep out shenanigan. Technically could be faked as scum, but given the situation, I find it highly unlikely.
TellTaleHeart - This is probably the most laziest townread. I liked the part about him wanting Ari dead for meta reason found in her previous game (quoted too, which is what I liked mainly.)
Yume - Bah.
Foxbird - If anything, his 857 is a genuine attempt to sort people.
pieguyn - If I am wrong on this one, she've done a very good job trolling me. I don't like explaining my read on pie so I'll continue doing so.
BeeGirl - 0.2% he could be scum coasting on a weird as f claim but he can be town.
Luna Fox - Not going to explain in detail for ~reasons~. No, it's not about any ongoing games. I was a listmod once, you know. I know better.
Layla - Scum. Definitely.
Aristophanes - Weird as f vig claim is tbh all I got on him but I think that's enough of a reason for a townread. And I'm saying this after I got hilariously trolled in antihero game for townreading scum for a same reason. I guess I never learn.

[Layla]

I feel like mala is doing her gamer girl thing. unsure. I feel like sky is popping up cos no1 else knows where to go. very very very slight townread. I just don't want to lynch her rn.

Gamer girl thing?
I admit that sky is there in my list because of the pure PoE.

[Layla]

most laziest

I am very good at using superlatives.

[Layla]

I had a slight moment of thought long time ago about you being scum and taking my townread on you too easily.

So I guess we're even now.

[Layla]

What is that even supposed to mean.

Double rainbow.

[Layla]

{You, Skybird, LLD, Mala}.

I'd lynch Foxbird over any of those. :\

But I'm townreading Foxbird!

[Layla]

Why?

Foxbird - If anything, his 857 is a genuine attempt to sort people.

[Layla]

Why is LLD still in your null pool?

I'm not confident in trying to get a good read on her with what I have to work with right now.

[Layla]

GIF sheep me in your next post please.

Where is your mollie \/ote?

Maybe near the deadline.

[Layla]

Why?

Foxbird - If anything, his 857 is a genuine attempt to sort people.

[Layla]

Why is LLD still in your null pool?

I'm not confident in trying to get a good read on her with what I have to work with right now.

I may not agree with everything she says, but I really like where LLD's head is at. Things like this post:

By the way I bet if we killed everyone in the Ari wagon right now there'd only be like 1 scum remaining.

And that other one scum is helping contribute to the apathy by being off wagons all together and remaining semi-active and invested without actually accomplishing anything.

Like I'd lynch UTL today.

I also don't think LLD as scum would've played the Ari read like she did regardless of what he is.

To be honest LLD is the towniest from the pile.

[Layla]

I don't know. Who are your town reads?

Uptoolate
TellTaleHeart
Lady Lambdadelta
Yume
Foxbird
pieguyn
Aristophanes
Layla

w8 I thought I had more town reads I am feeling good again.

You don't townread Luna?

[Layla]

It was working for a minute.

[Layla]

Oh actually

How are you finding fox scummier than mala

[Layla]

Treestump!
Ghost!
Judas!

The possibility is limitless.

[Layla]

I didn't read the game!

[Layla]

I hate all of y'all.

[Layla]

Round 1

[Layla]

Let's PoE on Day 1 with no flips.

But that's my D1 in nutshell :V

[Layla]

LLD, why did you stop telling me I need to die? C'mon, please continue. I am a masochist, so indulge me.

I mean if u shot urself u ded so y bother to tell u to die when u alry ded

[Layla]

Layla (!) -> How is GIF so sure im town, it's making me paranoid

I mean if you think I'm wrong, I'm always willing to reconsider.

[Layla]

But calling someone a dog does not magically change that person to a dog.

[Layla]

Yeah because buddying isnt a thing scum does, totally!

...
What

[Layla]

Yeah because buddying isnt a thing scum does, totally!

...
What

It's easy, if you're scum you already know I'm town, I don't understand why you're so certain that I'm town.

[Layla]

Are you from EpicMafia?

[Layla]

VOTE: FoxBird

Suck us up and put us in a freezer, nobody is gonna miss us.

Join me.

[Layla]

If I agree with you dying, will I magically turn into scum?

[Layla]

I don't think you got it :V

But it's ok.
I don't plan to think nor do something other than finishing the wagon until Day 2.

[Layla]

I thought my role was cool and unique, now it's not anymore :<

At least you had a moement to think that your role was cool.

My role is terribad.

[Layla]

Wow, this is depressing.

Join me in lollygagging until Day 2.

Join me

[Layla]

Tinfoil theory: Luna/Pie/Bee ultimate scumtheatre trolling

[Layla]

Two vigs and a redirector?

This game

[Layla]

...what

[Layla]

I mean treestump was obvious.

So we have a flapping treestump, 3 flipping vigs, and a flopping redirector.

[Layla]

VOTE: Mala

With those role composition already, redirector is 100.3% scum.

Choo choo

[Layla]

I thought Yume admitted her vig claim was fake?
Who was the third vig claim?

She claimed a night vig.

[Layla]

Tth doesn't want to lynch mollie. I think yume might actually be town from her ate alone, but I don't buy her claim. Actually. I need to go back and look at her reaction to how aris claimed vig. Logic would dictate that she would be out for blood seeing as its doubtful that there are 2 vigs in a mini right? If she is actually a vig, I mean.

FAKE FAKE FAKE

THEY'RE BOTH FAKE.

NOTICE HOW QUICKLY ARI AGREED TO SHOOT ME AS SOON AS UTL SUGGESTED IT. IT'S EITHER BUDDYING, OR THEY'RE BOTH SCUM. EITHER WAY, ARI NEEDS TO DIE. TODAY.

Did I misread this?

Oh.

2 then. But it changes nothing and both vigs are even more likely to be town.

[Layla]

I think he just want your role proven.

[Layla]

She said she was lying about day vig :V

[Layla]

Oh ok.

VOTE: Yume

Execute: Yume

[Layla]

UNVOTE:

Ehehehehehe

[Layla]

by the way that was my role claim.

[Layla]

Oh right I almost forgot.

VOTE: Mala

Now you don't need to fix mine.

[Layla]

why layla why

?

[Layla]

The only vig claim I'm buying is Luna's.

so can we lynch yume

eta: are you guys wanting to lynch mala

Lynch the redirector
Justice will be with us once again.

[Layla]

Assuming that would mean I'll have to assume that everyone plays competently 100% of the time.

[Layla]

But for real, I think the setup points redirector as scum.

[Layla]

Even though I have no clue why vig even counterclaims when they can just shoot the CC at night :V

[Layla]

Pie jsyk you're really going to get your vote stuck on Yume.

[Layla]

I'm in a dire need of 12-shots multi-vig.

[Layla]

[Layla]

Why oh why can we not lynch the flipping redirector

[Layla]

But he townnnnnn

[Layla]

Dunno man, Titus was town in FF10.

[Layla]

If you're wrong I'm going to include katsuki in my setup designing.

[Layla]

If Luna flips town, I'm going to get nightkilled 100% though.

Well whatever, all the wagons that are going through are on my townreads.

VOTE: luna

[Layla]

You are my association. Based on what beegirl said, you are the default night 1 kill, so why aren't you dead?

Also, you conveniently latched onto me like a parasite and kept insisting I needed to die no matter what I said. it's because

you know that I'm an easy mislynch

that you did so.

It is my duty to tell people that being an easy mislynch does not equate being town.

[Layla]

do you know who worries about sks its scum that is who.

I think luna's flip makes pie look infinitely scummier for his read. you shld know this by utl.

Nah.
He was not HUNTING for SK. He DEDUCED that Luna is a SK based on her claimed role and stuff.
Two different things.

[Layla]

'mislynch' = 'town' according to most people.

Just used your own word for it.

"lynchbait" is a better term with less bias.

[Layla]

Point being, calling self a low hanging fruit doesn't mean shit since low hanging fruit can be either alignment.
Plus, constantly using that makes me just want to utility lynch them more.

[Layla]

Also, I want Mala to full-claim the "redirector" part of her claim.

[Layla]

WHILE I'm posting consecutively, I just want to say that I'm not really scumreading Yume, but my urge to call the utility lynch rises every time and it's getting harder and harder to suppress that.

And just for a sake of it, I visited Skybird last night.

Also, I'm also going to entertain the idea of Foxbird being scum for a bit.

P-Edit: rip consecutive posting

[Layla]

PIE.
IS.
A.
SHE.

@_@

ops sorry
still not used to this. Gimme time V:

[Layla]

do you know who worries about sks its scum that is who.

I think luna's flip makes pie look infinitely scummier for his read. you shld know this by utl.

Nah.
He was not HUNTING for SK. He DEDUCED that Luna is a SK based on her claimed role and stuff.
Two different things.

he deduced that she was sk = hunting for sk

cos why wld you be thinking of an sk

scum are better deducing/hunting for the sk cos they have inside knowledge based on how large their team is and what kind of roles are in play. conversely, indies are better at spotting scum.

this is also a player who wanted to take away my vote. fuck yeah I am scumreading them.

I think I need to reread luna's posts

Aside from the point that town can also SK hunt, it's not like pie was looking for the SK the majority of the time. Her read of Luna was clearly "mafia" as evidenced by her once saying "If Layla flips scum you go next" etc. She only reached the SK conclusion after Luna claimed vig and messanger at the same time, with double-action.

[Layla]

[Layla]

Gif read my posts kthx

I did.

I still want you to claim.

[Layla]

Gif read my posts kthx

I did.

I still want you to claim.

I said it's useful if I just shut up until later. So no.

Dunno man, I don't want you coasting while going "blah blah I'm useful later" so I kinda want you to claim so you don't use that as a crutch.

[Layla]

VERSATILITY BY A WISE DINOSAUR. READ IT AND THEN SLEEP ON IT. TYVM

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Tralalala

[Layla]

I wouldn't mind lynching Ari today but that's just because I refuse to believe that TTH was killed because of anything other than her reads.

[Layla]

Ok now I don't want to lynch Ari anymore.

[Layla]

Ofc you don't, because you can't believe I can possibly be town and that my meta'd changed since I became an EMT~

Oh noes you got me
Literally the only meta I've ever used in this game regarding you was "Mala hates playing scum."

[Layla]

WE ARE NOT LYNCHING ARISTOPHANES TODAY

if this is a soft, you should just make it explicit.

I mean if it's not obvious that he's fucking clear idk what else to do other than fully claim which I really didn't want to do yet.

UTL, you are playing this wrong.

You should've asked pie for her analysis first.

[Layla]

Malakittens
Skybird
Foxbird

^
Willing to lynch any of this list. The only reason that I have Foxbird here is just because TTH died and foxbird read was one of her strongest.

[Layla]

Town.
Purely because of the tweestump claim.

[Layla]

Mala

kittens

Sky

bird

Foxbird

Luna

Fox

- Kurumi- odd night messenger serial killer-lynched day 1

[Layla]

I am literally a visitor with a twist. Can't be worse than that.

[Layla]

I'm starting to think GIF could be scum. more on this later.

Mollie/GIF best scumteam 2016

[Layla]

Vote: Mollie

Read on Mala?

[Layla]

Also I wanted to know why you scumread UTL D1.

[Layla]

Like, literally the only way mollie can be scum is with Ari and they decided to plot this whole darn "nerf-as-fuck vig and treestump fakeclaim combo" thing, which is very unlikely.

[Layla]

And I trust UTL that she wouldn't clear someone based on some dumb stuff like the role being too exotic to be scum or something.

[Layla]

Exactly!
Why are you voting a treestump claim?

[Layla]

Like, fakeclaiming a treestump when there's a claimed vig?
Come on,

dude

er... lady?

[Layla]

OOC: I realized that I've been saying stuff like "dunno man" in women game.
I need to not do that and say something like "dunno lady" instead to fit the flavor.

[Layla]

The order doesn't really matter even though claiming after a vig claim makes it even more trusting.
Like, what kind of scum fakeclaims a flapping treestump?

[Layla]

And don't even think about mafia treestump because there is literally no point in making a mafia treestump because a treestumped mafia will be just forced to troll or prod dodge.

[Layla]

Exactly!
Why are you voting a treestump claim?

She can prove it then?

Sure. Even though this is going to be waste of a lynch.

VOTE: Mollie

[Layla]

And don't even think about mafia treestump because there is literally no point in making a mafia treestump because a treestumped mafia will be just forced to troll or prod dodge.

I've yet to see her prove it so

I don't think it needs to be proven tbqh because claiming a treestump is begging to be vigged/lynched.
But if we're wasting a lynch to prove it, hey we lynched scum D1, we can waste a lynch.

[Layla]

if you think a treestump is ever being vigged you need to go back to newbie games and relearn this game.

Newb game doesn't have a treestump in the setup. What do?

[Layla]

(Also, I would totally vig a claimed treestump in a situation like this.)

[Layla]

Sorry mollie
I believe you but I think a sacrifice is needed to get us straightened up.

[Layla]

Ari can shoot Skybird to prove himself since my action will be totally un-messable. (Can not be roleblocked, can not be redirected, can not be stopped by shooting me, etc.)

[Layla]

Yes, that means I'll visit him again tonight.
And then we'll get our stuff together and lynch mala for great justice.

[Layla]

I think you proving yourself as a treestump is necessary for town to move on.

Also, lynching a SK still means scum lynched.
One of the reason for Pie scumreading Luna as a SK is because she claimed a messanger AND a vig, which are two roles that are very unlikely to be paired together, and on top of that, she claimed that she can use both of the abilities simultaneously, which means... yeah. Only a SK would be capable of vigging and messaging at the same time. Mafia is unlikely to claim vig because well, unless mod put a scum vig, they gotta prove that there's a second kill.

[Layla]

You are a strong willed visitor LOL

with a twist, is what I'm claiming.