Mini 1821 Badass Women U-Pick Mafia - game over

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Hey babes! <3

Reading throughout the night to hopefully get my footing in the game.

UNVOTE:

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Working on my catchup. Pie TTH beegirl are town. Did yume get a town read on her slot and then disappear? I'm really hoping mollie starts posting more (I'm only about halfish way through).

Back to reading!

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Mollieeee where are you? This isn't what I'm used to from you, and this has me nervous. Luna is a gut town read tbh. I want to see more from skybird before lynching that slot. I dislike Yume's disappearance. (Actually I should check time stamps) kraska felt super genuine and just.. Idk. I can't really get behind that lynch right now. I keep forgetting LLD is in the game, same with mala and foxbird.

Somebody talk to me!

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Yeah, yume last posted over 2 days ago. I don't like that slot right now.

It really feels like she just got her town read and plans on coasting on it.

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Hiya! What are your thoughts on mollie and yume?

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Yes, she does usually toss out naked votes. That's not my concern.

My concern is more that when she is engaging, it feels like it's missing something. Idk if that makes sense. I guess it just feels like she's going through the motions of looking like she's trying to scumhunt rather than actually scumhunting.

I love playing with mollie because we usually click when we're playing together (at least when we're both town, though I've never seen scummollie) and her and I can townblock rather easily and I can work with her. I'm just not getting the same feeling as I usually do from her, which is why I'm trying to sort her slot first.

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Mollie, I'll give you space, but if you could come and talk to me I'd very grateful <3

On another note: Yume. I hate passing off lurking as meta. That's how scum coast to endgame =/

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Hi UTL! ^_^

Why is pie town?

TTH! Happy ScumDay!! <3 <3 I like her push on Kraska. Though I'm not sure if I agree, I do think it comes off as she genuinely believes it. It doesn't feel like scum pushing a ML.

Yeah, yume last posted over 2 days ago. I don't like that slot right now.

It really feels like she just got her town read and plans on coasting on it.

Okay, so real life isn't a thing, got it.

I am fed up with people who demean real life issues....

I mean, if you said, "hey, I'm going to be V/LA" or at least, "hey, I'll be in and out" that would be great. I'm not trying to demean you. You do lurk. I can't read a lurker. I mean, if we're being honest, I'm almost always down with a lurker lynch unless I have a super strong scum read elsewhere. However, that being said, if you at least communicated with us that you weren't going to be able to post, that would make a huge difference.

Also, posting lyrics and no content does nothing for your slot. Nothing positive at least. What are your reads, currently?

Somebody talk to me!

Hi!
I see we have the same thoughts re: kraska. What's your read on skybird i dont think i saw it anywhere.

I'm actually going to go reread skybird. I remember I wanted to give her space but I can't remember why.

Why are you scum reading Skybird?

Because it looks to me like both skybird and kraska are competing wagons and kraska was town so i thought skybird is scum.

I do love a competing wagon argument. (Really, I do.)

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Has anybody ISOd LLD or Mala? I don't like either of those slots right now.

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I completely forgot about Aristo being in this game

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Sure. Some pressure there won't hurt .

VOTE: Aristo

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BeeGirl: Gut scum read.

Best read of the game


(inb4 Bee is trolling us and is really scum )

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.... Why?

Town have no reason to be disingenuous, where as scum can't be genuine.

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Yeah, yume last posted over 2 days ago. I don't like that slot right now.

It really feels like she just got her town read and plans on coasting on it.

^ It's because of this....I got mad that he thinks I should sacrifice my real life issues in order to play.

*She.

Also, that is not at all what I think, and if you read my response to you bitching at me you'd know that.

You're also here and not yet doing.. anything..


Annnnd haven't you already claimed?

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I don't have any issue with mollie's posts, btw; I see the point about her activity but the way she's going about it doesn't strike me as malicious. I'd like if UTL could point me to something specific about it that she's taking issue with.

Again, it just feels like she's going through the motions of scumhunting, but it's all shallow and doesn't seem to be progressing anything. I'm interested to see her opinions on recent interactions.

Has anybody ISOd LLD or Mala? I don't like either of those slots right now.

is this just due to lurking, btw, or is there something specific about their posts that you dislike?

Lurking, and lack of content. I do see Mala has caught up and I need to read through that again here in a few.

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No offense, but the town read on me for my first two-three posts are terribad. Kraska, I really, really don't understand how you came to this read. It just feels fake as hell.
Also the nahdia / Luna fight -- yeah I just got there, but I'm not townreading nahdia for that replace out of anger.
UTL might be town, so that makes me feel better.
Actually TTH is feeling a lot more town too.

I'm also caught up.

So who do you think could be scum?

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RE: The "tbh" thing between piegirl and TTH

It's funny because I see both sides of the argument. I am one of those people who actually does say things like "tbh" frequently or when they aren't necessary, it's just part of how I speak/type. On the other hand, I always get a bad feeling about people who do the same thing (I know, I know, I'm a hypocrite). I know I do it absentmindedly, especially since I often have to get up to deal with children in the middle of typing a post and lose my flow/train of thought. I just can't help but read it as forced when others do it.

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Yeah, yume last posted over 2 days ago. I don't like that slot right now.

It really feels like she just got her town read and plans on coasting on it.

Mollie, I'll give you space, but if you could come and talk to me I'd very grateful <3

On another note: Yume. I hate passing off lurking as meta. That's how scum coast to endgame =/

These two posts clearly mean you hate me for not posting. I wasn't posting because I had real life issues. Therefore, you hate the fact that real life issues are stopping me from posting in this game.

Let me point this out to you again:

Yeah, yume last posted over 2 days ago. I don't like that slot right now.

It really feels like she just got her town read and plans on coasting on it.

Okay, so real life isn't a thing, got it.

I am fed up with people who demean real life issues....

I mean, if you said, "hey, I'm going to be V/LA" or at least, "hey, I'll be in and out" that would be great. I'm not trying to demean you. You do lurk. I can't read a lurker. I mean, if we're being honest, I'm almost always down with a lurker lynch unless I have a super strong scum read elsewhere. However, that being said, if you at least communicated with us that you weren't going to be able to post, that would make a huge difference.

Also, posting lyrics and no content does nothing for your slot. Nothing positive at least. What are your reads, currently?

If you have RL, that's fine, but again, as I said above, letting us know is incredibly helpful. But seriously, stop trying to play the victim. I tried to reach out to you, engage you, help you get into the game. Instead, you're not doing anything but boohooing about me not liking the fact that you lurk and ignoring the rest of the game.

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Well, declaring V/LA every single day is stupid.

OMG LOOK YOU'RE STILL NOT DOING ANYTHING

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My role can be confirmed at some point too. I still need those with confirmable roles who haven't been participating to... do something.

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Well, declaring V/LA every single day is stupid.

Like, IDK what you expect when you disappear but when you do come back you don't do jack shit or provide any content. Being defensive about your lurking is not game solving and if you're here enough to whine about that then you can sure as hell do something productive.

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Yume, do you actually have reads? This is the second time I'm asking.

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Yume, I wasn't in that game, nor have I really read it.

And um. You're not skating by on doing nothing. Sorry.

If Ari provides the content he promised by when he promised it, you can expect my vote on you.


BTW, you still aren't doing anything but being defensive instead of convincing me you're town.

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Um, no. Do not hammer. Ari should have the chance to come in and provide the content like he said he would by the end of the weekend. And hammering without giving someone a chance to claim is really fucking scummy IMO.

p. edit, that too, pie.

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Lurking, and lack of content. I do see Mala has caught up and I need to read through that again here in a few.

LLD's approach freaks me out just because it's such a direct contrast to what I would have expected from her in general, and because even though this doesn't look like how she approached either of the scum games where I saw her and I didn't mind her kraska push, if she *does* happen to be scum here I imagine she would be more than capable of coasting on how she's playing this all the way until endgame in cold blood.

she is someone who I'm waiting to hear more from when she comes back and can actually catch up.

I'm kind of in the same place. I want to give her space like I am mollie to see what she does.

Actually, mollie. What do you think of LLD right now?

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY GOD DAMN MOUTH.

WHERE have I called you scum? Please, quote it. I have said I didn't like your slot. I have said that I don't like you lurking. I have said that I will vote you. Votes are used for multiple things.

Like you are making yourself look worse and YOU STILL AREN'T LOOKING AT THE REST OF THE GOD DAMN GAME

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LIKE WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HAMMERING YOU. NOBODY IS EVEN VOTING YOU.

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OR LIKE IN THIS CASE:

It means I'm going to put pressure on you and encourage others to the same because you haven't done a damn think other than piss me right the fuck off. Like, people town read you for your claim blah blah blah. I don't. I want to sort your slot but you are making it impossible.

I mean, I don't have a scum read on ari but I sure as hell don't have a town read on him and I explicitly said I was voting him for pressure. Votes don't always equal scumread. You've played enough Mafia to fucking know that.

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And if you want a direct quote where you said it, here:

Mollie, I'll give you space, but if you could come and talk to me I'd very grateful <3

On another note:

Yume

. I hate passing off lurking as meta.

That's how scum coast to endgame

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"I hate passing off lurking as meta. That's how scum coast to endgame"

That isn't the same as saying "Yume is scum"

And quite frankly when I wrote that, I was thinking about firebringer in Gumball mafia, though he was lynched. But every time I brought him up people just said "oh it's firebringer, that's what he does" Guess what. He was scum.

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Can you give thoughts on anything else in the game? Have you even read it?

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In fact, this is why I won't let anyone hammer me ever again.

What does that even mean? You don't get to choose whether or not someone hammer you.

Oh and you're still ignoring the rest of the game.

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VOTE: Yume

You were overly defensive about your claim, then you disappeared. You said that you were gone because of RL things, which is fine, but then you spend all of your time here today arguing with me and not looking at the rest of the game like I've brought up several times. You are using our argument as a smokescreen to hide the fact that you aren't trying to game solve and quite honestly I don't think you have any intention to.

NOW, I am calling you scum, for the reasons above. Now, if you are town, instead of fucking arguing with me, go and do something. If you're scum, keep doing what you're doing, doll.

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Mollie, what are your thoughts at the moment?

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But beegirl wanted me to press Art and decided to jump ship when it got hot, ill take note of that.

I'm like 104% sure beegirl's unvote was solely to prevent Yume just hammering and cutting the day off.

I agree with this 104%.

P. edit. because this. ^ and right now since she's actually here and not doing anything, and I'm now scumreading her because of that.

p. p. edit, I don't think that's accurate. She could have just declared intent with the intention to hammer when she felt and use us arguing as an excuse.

After Legends of the HIdden speakeasy, I don't put anything past her anymore.

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After Legends of the HIdden speakeasy, I don't put anything past her anymore.

It's not ongoing, but ignore this.

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I think she meant between Yume and myself.

Can anybody explain any town reads on Yume please?

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I think she meant between Yume and myself.

The reason I ask is I saw LLD make a similar comment a while back. Personally, I think the "toxicity" in this game is pretty mild.
I guess I've become desensitized. ;_:

I wouldn't call it toxic myself. Nobody has resorted to name calling or violence yet. That's a good sign. I didn't think arguing with somebody in mafia was toxic, but maybe I'm just a toxic player now and can't see it!

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Can anybody explain any town reads on Yume please?

I still think the ascetic claim is slightly more likely from town.

I don't buy it =/

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I don't want a hammer until Layla generates content, either.

Would you like to know a secret?

I like secrets, if you're sharing with the class. =D

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Spoiler: FOR UTL ONLY DON'T OPEN IF YOU'RE NOT UTL

I'm town.

Spoiler: FOR LAYLA ONLY DON'T OPEN IF YOU'RE NOT LAYLA

I think you might be!

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Is it just me or do I not like Layla's posting? Lol

What about it don't you like?

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I think we all need wine.

Yes. Wine is a good idea.

Where the hell is Aristophanes? He should bring us wine when he comes to wow us with his sick reads on the game.

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TTH, you're holding out on me?!

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Why the rush?

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And? Pie and I seem to follow your logic rather well. We weren't trying to lynch ari, necessarily, we were tying to pressure him to do something. I'm not seeing the purpose of what you're doing.

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^@beeboy

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TTH, you're holding out on me?!

It's called "Covey Run."
They even put a picture of a quail on it so you feel classy while drinking cheap wine!

I'll have to try it, thanks!

TTH, other than her claim, what are your thoughts on Yume. I've calmed down and am less ragey now, and though I still think she's scummy as fuck I do easily tunnel and I'm trying to get away from that if somebody can help me see why she's maybe town.

I.E. I'm trying to be less stubborn, especially early in games.

p.edit @ beegirl, I totally get that.

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(Off topic. I have a new habit of ending questions with periods, and I'm not sure where that came from. It's really annoying.)

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Pie ;-;

Hi! You may have missed it, but I was wondering who you think scum is?

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Dear Vigifwehaveone:

I will bake you a cookie cake if you vig yume.

and brownies.

and anything else you want.

Signed with love,

UTL

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GIF!!!!!!!!!

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my heart just broke into a million tiny pieces.

you actually are just scum, aren't you?

I've never played with GIF, only have sitechat experience with him. Do you have game experience with him?

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GIF's refusal to put scum at L-1 is noted.
Luna noting NAI things is noted.
Noted noted noted noted.

You know Ari is V/LA Sat-Mon as per his sig, right?

(I can read the sarcasm, I'm just making sure you remember for realsies)

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have you seen luna as scum?

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Pie, remind me, are you scum reading luna?

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No.

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Can we just lynch yume instead?

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Can we just lynch yume instead?

I still think Aristo could be scum tho.

Ok but I think we can catch Ari if he's scum later.

I don't trust Yume and she's just going to lurk this game out like all the others anyway..

Meanwhile my townread on pie is starting to rot.

Can we just lynch yume instead?

She's more town than pieguy, sadly.
I could come up with some BS to "scumlynch" her but that's not the path I chose to take this game.

Can you explain these about pie?

Because again, I don't quite agree with her, but I can easily see where her head is at and why.

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But eh I don't feel like lynching Pie or Skybird or Mollie lol.

Short of a scum claim or a legit guilty from rolling day cop, I will never lynch mollie Day 1.

Ever.

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have you seen luna as scum?

Not firsthand, but I looked over a scum game of hers for Summer Waltz.
Tell me about it.

Still on the table, UTL.

I think there are some things you pick up on in real time that someone coming back after the fact and looking at the game wouldn't appreciate.

Wait, what?

I was just asking pie if she had, because her statement hinted that she did.

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Wait, what?

I was just asking pie if she had, because her statement hinted that she did.

I thought you were implying you did and Luna was an easy sort. X_X

Nope. The only people I have any notable in game experience with here are you, beegirl, mollie, ari, and I -think- that's it?

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Wait, what?

I was just asking pie if she had, because her statement hinted that she did.

I thought you were implying you did and Luna was an easy sort. X_X

Nope. The only people I have any notable in game experience with here are you, beegirl, mollie, ari, and I -think- that's it?

Liar. You have experience with me too and you slipped that you know how I play. That, plus the fact that you paid no attention to the game which I linked at mollie's request where I acted the same as here when I was town proves you are either biased or scum.

VOTE: UTL

The push comes to shove here.

Lol I was naming people off the top of my head and I forgot you. Please tell me what "lying" about having experience with you does for me? Jack shit. Try again.

This is actually starting to remind me of your shit behavior when you were scum that game. I'll have to reread that in the morning.

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Yume you want me to read another game to prove being anti town is NAI for you? Seriously?

I'm done engaging with Yume this game. She's yet again refusing to do anything useful and quite frankly I'm getting to the point where I

will

start getting toxic if I continue to deal with her.

She does not live to any lylo or Mylo situation.


Good night.

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If Ari doesn't post by the time I get home tonight I'll put him at L-1 (so in a few hours).

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Ok no. He was active elsewhere on site.

VOTE: Aristophanes

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That's L-1

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Mmm maybe. That is a possibility.

I'm bored. Something ~magical~ needs to happen.

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I'd at least like him to claim =/

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@beegirl: What did i told you, Yume's not hammering and is giving intent. What point did you want to prove?

This is a joke right?

Because she was ready to hammer the first time around.

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You buy that shit?

Lol. Ok.

Read the progression of things. I'm of the firm belief that she was setting herself up to hammer right then and there, and only claimed "intent" for show.

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(Psst Layla. She's just playing the victim here.)

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I love when people put words in my mouth and thoughts in my head.

Like, if I thought someone was 100% scum with no other possibilities, I wouldn't be on a lurker wagon. I'd be pushing the fuck out of that read.

And considering Ari is in prod range, there

is

a decent chance he'll show up when he gets the prod. So there't that.

p. edit, did he get prodded already?

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Oh ok, just saw his prod.

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Actually I initially said you were playing the victim in 620. It's funny, you've spend all this time trying to paint me and what I say in a bad light without anything to actually back it up. Like I had a legit reason to scum read you, a put my reasons why, and you respond with an OMGUS vote, and only explain it when asked. And then, your "case" is full of things that aren't even true. You saying I'm retaliating is just stupid considering I've said these things already. And like your AtE is more likely to come from town, tbh, but my God your play is so bad that it's antitown no matter how you look at it.

Again, if I was CERTAIN you were scum, I'd not have voted Ari and I'd be yelling all over thread for your lynch.

I don't even believe you have a real scum read on me, because if you did, you wouldn't have made that comment about you dying so that I can focus on scumhunting. If you really thought I was scum, how does that even work? You're literally just OMGUSing at this point.

I'm starting to understand why so many people have you blacklisted.

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Again, trying to misrep me.

I said the the first time I had voted him, before I ever voted you. And then I said fuck it, this chick is scummy, and voted you instead. Now Ari is legit ignoring this thread and I moved my vote back to him. I'm not preparing for anything.

Please, go reread the thread, get your shit straight, and then come back.


Thanks.

P. edit. I'm probably the least egotistical people you will ever meet,

especially

when it comes to mafia. You can kindly shut the fuck up now and get your shit straight. Thanks.

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Because not

everybody

lurks, Yume. I don't know what his replacement will do, as he isn't even being replaced yet and thus has no replacement.

Do I think there is a great chance he's scum? Yes.

Do I ever like a hammer without a claim? No.

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His claim is not guaranteed to save him from being lynched, I'm not sure where you're getting that. I also don't get where you think he'll coast to endgame based on any claim. What's funny, is that by saying that you're implying that you have a scumread on him, yet you listed me as your only scumread.

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Then why even want him to claim? You're hoping that it somehow saves him?

Claims, fake or not, can be informative. JFC. You are not this stupid. You can't be.

And considering that you implied that you won't let me claim when I am at L-1 or prove my role during the night (judging by your response to posts where I proposed doing so) it looks fishy to me.

I NEVER FUCKING SAID THAT EVER. FOR FUCKS SAKE. YOU WERE NEVER EVEN CLOSE TO L-1, AND I'M PRETTY SURE WHEN YOU CAME IN ASKING TO CLAIM NO ONE WAS EVEN VOTING YOU.

Maybe you really are this fucking stupid.

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You keep making up this narrative that you're for sure going to be who I vote tomorrow, like that's for sure going to happen. You aren't in my head so fucking stop it.

And don't worry, we won't be in any future games together.

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I'm not understanding why targets are being preclaimed.

I also sprained my ankle and took painkillers so if there's a great reason can someone spell it out plz? Ty.

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Plz only if you're scum ty. This game has my blood pressure up.

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I feel like I need to hard reset myself in this game. I have too many town/null reads. The problem is that my null reads are null because they aren't doing anything and rereading isn't going to change that. Argh.

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UTL what are your reads like right now?

I don't even fucking know anymore. Too many townreads gets me paranoid and I start scumreading everybody.

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UNVOTE:


I want to make sure we hear him elaborate his reads like he promised.

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MOLLIE!

hi.

How do you feel about LLD currentlu?

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This game is pretty frustrating that aside from obvious towns being obviously town, nulls are really hard to sort right now.

This is how I've been feeling.

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Mala, why are you choosing now to vote Yume?

There are only 2 days until deadline. We need to be consolidating for a lynch. Here you are starting a new wagon, and though it's one I would love to see go through, I do have to question it. At this point the only reason you should be voting is to lynch someone, we're past the time in the day for pressure votes. That being said, why did you only make a naked vote? With it being a new wagon, shouldn't you be trying to get us to jump on board with you? Convincing us that Yume's the best lynch for today?

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I actually kind of agree with beeboy.

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Usually in games with mollie, I feel like most of what she posts are things I'm either thinking already or things I strongly agree with.

I am not getting that here.

I am however getting that with beegirl and I'm not sure how.I feel about that.

Btw beegirl autocorrect to beefier. Phone posting because sick and on meds.

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VOTE: foxbird

Trusting in tth and beeboy and I'm not sold on ari scum.

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Round 1

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Yume you haven't done anything other than argue with people. I even backed off to give you space, and you did shit with it. You calling LLD anti town is fucking hilarious.

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Nobody do anything. I'm waiting on clarification about something.

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Nobody do anything. I'm waiting on clarification about something.

Yume being able to cancel her shot right?

Nope something more fun.


But seriously, I need a response before we end the day please.

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Funfact. Aristophanes shot would, in fact, kill yume. We test out aris claim AND get rid of yume who is doing nothing but clogging up the thread. Win/win imo.

Yume, did you confirm that a vig shot wouldnt kill you, with all the fuss you were making?

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Associatives don't mean everything. You've had all phase to try and game solve and you haven't. You can't coast on being bad day one when you won't even try.

You've literally been refusing to do anything under the excuse that you're bad on day 1. What happens if you don't get any good information tonight? Are you just going to do fuck all tomorrow?

You are the definition of a good vig shot.

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Then replace into games. Don't join new ones when you're essentially wasting a slot that could be helpful Day 1.

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Yume it's not unreasonable that people want you to at least try. Like seriously, all I was asking for was effort and you immediately start being overly defensive and freaking out, and still refused to do anything with content. I probably could have kept my cool better but ffs it's so frustrating.

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Is anyone town-reading mala?

P. Edit I'm back to ignoring yume. I really can't talk to her.

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Tth doesn't want to lynch mollie. I think yume might actually be town from her ate alone, but I don't buy her claim. Actually. I need to go back and look at her reaction to how aris claimed vig. Logic would dictate that she would be out for blood seeing as its doubtful that there are 2 vigs in a mini right? If she is actually a vig, I mean.

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I'm here again. Catching up from earlier.

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Oh yeah, I wanted to look at the Yume reaction to Aris claim. Gonna do that first.

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Even though I have no clue why vig even counterclaims when they can just shoot the CC at night :V

I was going to do that, but i got confused by Yume's claim to the point it made my CC kinda obvious.

Wait, what?

Maybe I should catch up first.

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JFC.

I don't even know what to do in this game right now.

I, too, am much more likely to believe Luna over Ari OR Yume.

I can't tell if Yume was calling me fake or her stupid vig claim.

Honestly I want her dead so we can progress in this game a lot more peacefully.

However, the chances of mala being scum look pretty good with her claim.

ALSO WHY ARE THERE SO MANY FUCKING CLAIMS?

I need tequila after reading this game. I probably shouldn't, I don't think that's conducive to getting well?

Here are my thoughts: If mala is a redirector, I REALLY want her dead. If Luna is telling the truth, I want Ari dead. We all know how I feel about Yume.

inb4 none of the vig claims are real and they're all scum.

JK that would be stupid.

VOTE: Mala

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VOTE: luna

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Pie I kind of want Yume to shoot Mollie >.>

Why do you believe yume?

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WHY DO YOU BELIEVE YUME?

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Tbh if she is a vig she's prolly going to shoot me.

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THAT'S FINE BUT WHY DO YOU BELIEVE YUME?

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Wait. You're telling me you're willing to assume that a ascetic vig neighborizer is real but not a vig in training? They both sound ridiculous, but tell me why hers is more believable.

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Aris do you think there can be more than one vig?

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Guys.

Guys.

What if I told you




That I can be a vig too.

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Pie are you saying I'm a vig shot or am a vig?

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Ok there is a small part of me that believes Yume but no part of me thinks UTL is a vig.

Lol. I am not a vig.

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Idk Ari I just wanted to test your claim and I am volunteering to be killed out of this wonderful game.

Why don't you want to be in a neighborhood with Yume?

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You just don't want to be in a neighborhood with her.

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I'm coughing up my lungs. It is my dying wish to get out of this fucking day phase before I lose my mind.

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VOTE: Yume

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I don't believe there are 2 vigs and we are NOT lynching Aristophanes.

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Because we're not.

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Who said anything about her being roleblocked?

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If I would have targeted you, you would have been dead with Ari's shot. Nice try though.

Also, if you're ascetic, my action would have failed.

So please keep trying.

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Explain to me how if you're ascetic, you even remotely think that I could have roleblocked you, please.

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What do you mean, dud?

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I call bullshit.

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K. She can still be a scum neighborizer.

She's lied about being a vig, whether she was saying the second time was fake I'm not sure.

I don't believe she's ascetic because if she was she wouldn't have even thought I roleblocked her.

Her play has been anti town.

She needs to die.

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That TTH kill was pretty neat.
I expected you to go tonight UTL.

Why? Tbh, I expected pie after her catching the SK, and correctly deducing she was SK.

Yume, you know, intentionally calling me by the wrong pronoun when I not only have it listed, but you've been corrected on it already, is incredibly rude.

Also, you have flips. Gogo with your associations. Day 1 is over.

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That TTH kill was pretty neat.
I expected you to go tonight UTL.

Why? Tbh, I expected pie after her catching the SK, and correctly deducing she was SK.

You are the hardest lynch in this game and Pie was the obv doc target.

Yeah, that makes sense I guess. I'm going to go back and look at TTH's ISO in a bit.

Yume still hangs today.

P. edit. If you were an easy lynch I'd have had you lynched yesterday.

But, no, you're caught scum. So there's that.

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Also, that hint that Ari could kill me, thus hinting that you're some type of vig too and could enable his vig shot was a lie. You were clearly crying for my blood the day before, so if you have the means to ensure Ari's kill, why aren't I dead?

And if you didn't actually imply that you have a role that could enable his kill, ergo a killing one, how were you so sure he could actually kill me? Ascetic, remember.

I wasn't hinting at anything. I straight up asked the mod if his role would still work on an ascetic. It was confirmed it would. I never said I had the means to ensure the kill.

He said that his shot would only go through on someone if someone else targeted them. I asked if even though the other person's action would be canceled if it would count for the shot to work. It was confirmed that it in fact, would. It's not hard to ask the mod a question. I'm actually curious as to why you didn't before you went on the big spiel about how Ari couldn't kill you.

Oh right, because you're not really ascetic.

You're just scum.

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Also, that hint that Ari could kill me, thus hinting that you're some type of vig too and could enable his vig shot was a lie. You were clearly crying for my blood the day before, so if you have the means to ensure Ari's kill, why aren't I dead?

And if you didn't actually imply that you have a role that could enable his kill, ergo a killing one, how were you so sure he could actually kill me? Ascetic, remember.

I wasn't hinting at anything. I straight up asked the mod if his role would still work on an ascetic. It was confirmed it would. I never said I had the means to ensure the kill.

He said that his shot would only go through on someone if someone else targeted them. I asked if even though the other person's action would be canceled if it would count for the shot to work. It was confirmed that it in fact, would. It's not hard to ask the mod a question. I'm actually curious as to why you didn't before you went on the big spiel about how Ari couldn't kill you.

Oh right, because you're not really ascetic.

You're just scum.

That again, doesn't explain why you didn't target me, ensuring that he would kill me. My guess is if that were to happen, you'd lose your mislynch target for day 2.

Why are you assuming that I could target anybody?

I'm not saying I can. and I'm not saying I can't.

I don't like how you're going about this. It feels like you're fishing and trying to get me to reveal something about my role to defend myself.

Not happening.

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She's just scum flailing at this point.

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Yume, who are your scum reads?

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Also, I'm not Ircher. In fact, he and I have vastly different play styles. I'm not sure why you're trying to compare us?

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Yume, who are your scum reads?

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No, your other reads.

Also, if you're scum reading me, why did you unvote?

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Ok so wait. You're scum reading Ari and myself, correct?

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K. You're just trolling now.

p. edit Ari, it's what she was saying yesterday.

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p-edit: I want to be confirmed town by flip so you can focus on finding real scum instead of wasting time on me.

If you were really scum reading ari and I, why would you say this? This is the second time you've made this comment to people you scumread.

Also, this flailing is exactly what you did in hidden speakeasy when you were caught scum.

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I'm comparing you to yourself.

You're comparing me to someone I'm not.

What?

P. Edit.

Tell me one thing you've done that anybody should town read you for?

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Mala. What are your thoughts on the current situation? State of the game?

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Why are you confused by mollie? Doesn't treestump only apply if they are lynched or killed?

Yume needs to be today's lynch. Bus your buddy please.

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Why are you confused by mollie? Doesn't treestump only apply if they are lynched or killed?

Yume needs to be today's lynch.

Bus your buddy please.

Heh, I knew you'd say that. Apparently, anyone who scumreads Ari becomes a magical scumread for you.

Except I've had a scum lean on mala for a while. And then she claimed redirector, which strengthened it. Now she's taking back and it doesn't look any better.

Keep slinging your shit, none if it will stick.

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So like, if five people scumread you, he'll have sixteen scumreads? O.O

And you call my logic insane?

Wait what? This doesn't even make sense?

You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.

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That TTH kill was pretty neat.
I expected you to go tonight UTL.

Why? Tbh, I expected pie after her catching the SK, and correctly deducing she was SK.

Yume, you know, intentionally calling me by the wrong pronoun when I not only have it listed, but you've been corrected on it already, is incredibly rude.

Also, you have flips. Gogo with your associations. Day 1 is over.

do you know who worries about sks its scum that is who.

I think luna's flip makes pie look infinitely scummier for his read. you shld know this by utl.

This is a good point. This is also one of the reasons EP incorrectly called me scum in cheetory, so maybe I'm still sensitive to that.

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Layla, mollie. Please vote yume with me.

Her play has not been town. She's intentionally tried to confuse the thread with her vig claims and not clearing any of the confusion up.

She has scum reads but no vote.

She forgot she claimed ascetic when she said I roleblocked her.

She has yet to scum hunt and her scum reads are just those who are trying to get her lynched.

She's also proven more than once that she doesn't really have scum reads on who she says she does.

Her ate and trolling are just fucking awful.

She's just fucking scumflailing.

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Lynch yume vig mala.

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Layla, mollie. Please vote yume with me.

Her play has not been town. She's intentionally tried to confuse the thread with her vig claims and not clearing any of the confusion up.

She has scum reads but no vote.

She forgot she claimed ascetic when she said I roleblocked her.

She has yet to scum hunt and her scum reads are just those who are trying to get her lynched.

She's also proven more than once that she doesn't really have scum reads on who she says she does.

Her ate and trolling are just fucking awful.

She's just fucking scumflailing.

okay, lets talk this out. do you know who yume is reminding me of rn? bins, like how she was in your game. she fucking LIED and pple were like "oh she is obvs town!" and I was like no way. and my bad read cost us the game.

trust me, I am feeling you but I hope you understand my hesitancy here.

I know. But bins wasnt fake claiming and taking it back and leaving the thread confused. Bins was also actually trying. Can you say the same for yume?

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Sweetie, if you thought we were scum, you be trying to push a lynch. You're not. You're not trying to do anything other than discredit me and clog the thread.

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WE ARE NOT LYNCHING ARISTOPHANES TODAY

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WE ARE NOT LYNCHING ARISTOPHANES TODAY

if this is a soft, you should just make it explicit.

I mean if it's not obvious that he's fucking clear idk what else to do other than fully claim which I really didn't want to do yet.

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I'm frustrated. And quite frankly annoyed with this game. Sorry.

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Pie just trust me please.

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Mollie want to vote mala?

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Mala would be me settling. But, I want Yume dead. She's scum or really fucking anti town and needs to die either way. I get weird vibes from her insisting she's vigged, too.

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Ok so we lose a townie and a town vote if she's not lying?

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This is fucking stupid.

You want to lynch mollie over someone who is either fucking scum or anti town as fuck, claiming ascetic so nobody investigates her.

Fucking no.

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I'd rather him shoot yume.

Also, if I die he should be treated like conftown. Thanks.

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Layla why doesn't he just shoot mala?

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Because Ari is town and people have written off yume as just a shit player.

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Mala have you even read the game?

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Ari I just don't think anybody targeted her with you. I think you should try again tonight if they don't lynch her today. Though, I still think it's odd that shes insisting on getting vigged. I disagree with pie and that whole situation feels off.

Why is anybody reading mollie as scum at this point?

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It shouldn't be a waste tonight.

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If we don't lynch her, I will. But I don't see why we shouldn't take care of this today!
Deal?

Deal.

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Well, Ari lied. He's not a conditional vig, he's a full vig, like me.

Yume can you explain this please?

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That's not what the mod told me.

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You should try rephrasing then. I asked her specifically and in detail if what ari claimed would kill you, even if the other action didn't take and mod confirmed that yes, it would.

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She had mentioned the wiki when giving me her answer. This is what the wiki says about your claimed role:

"Ascetic is a role modifier (though it can function as a role in its own right) that causes a player to be immune to all actions at Night except kills. More precisely, Ascetic reflexively Roleblocks all actions taken against them except kills."

Except kills.

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Well, Ari lied. He's not a conditional vig, he's a full vig, like me.

Yume can you explain this please?

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Where did you explain it?

Oh. Is that what you meant about asking the mod?

That still doesn't make sense.

How would that question determine if he was a full vig or not?

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Please answer my question.

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1. I'm trying to talk to you. You don't need to be rude.

2. What are you talking about? I never said he couldn't function without another killing ability. It was confirmed that anybody who targets an ascetic along with him will enable him to shoot, though their action would be blocked.

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Yume still isn't going to flip scum.

Yeah and I don't think mollie will either.

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I mean, pie, you want to argue that we need to kill the treestump claim, I can argue that we need to kill the ascetic claim.

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I'll catch up in a bit.

Layla I think I may have figured out your role and I'm interested to see if I'm right and how this plays out.

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Pie, if mollie is being vigged, that means we're lynching yume right?

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Okay then, UTL, if I am scum, then say the name of my partner.

Potentially LLD.


What's your case on me again, Yume?

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Hold the fuck up.

I did not lie.

I'm not sure why she won't answer the question in thread, but I didn't fucking lie.

I've also said that you might be town. But your play is anti town either way and you should fucking hang for it.

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Explain to me why that would be something I would lie aboutique?

What does lying about that get me?

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Okay then, UTL, if I am scum, then say the name of my partner.

Potentially LLD.


What's your case on me again, Yume?

Three, why aren't you advocating lynching her then? I am the easy one to lynch and you can easily do it later. With her, you might not have that luxury.
Four, you are bitching about how others won't target me for Ari to shoot me, but haven't considered that those who can shoot me think I am town.
Five, in 672 you imply you know who my main is and therefore should know my playstyle and that I am acting like this as town too, so the fact that you're still pushing me makes me feel that you're scum.


Moreover, 1286. If you truly believe LLD and I are scum together, you wouldn't have said what you said there. You would have insisted that I was bussing my partner.

p-edit: Free mislynch on me, of course.

Because I want you dead first? Like, I want you out of this game. You're reflexively scum reading me with a shit case. You say I'm scum because I want you dead and you say i won't consider anybody else, however, you're kind of doing the same thing. You're pushing me without considering that I'm town (except you've proven you don't even believe that read at least twice now). You only waiver to say you'll sheep your town reads on a fucking mollie lynch which is an easy fucking place to hide. Add that in with everything else you've done, and yeah. It equates a fucking scumread from me.

I'm bitching about people not lynching you. I'm not bitching about people not targeting you. That can be taken care of tonight.

The only playstyle I've seen from you is shit, so Idk what you expect me to take from that. And tbh, Idk if I've ever even seen you as town.

1286 was very clearly me saying that your play is incredibly antitown and you have no business calling anybody else in this game antitown.

p. edit. How can a cop check you if you're ascetic?

Oh wait, they can't.

Or maybe they can because you aren't ascetic.


Also, I don't like how you're pushing getting vigged instead of getting lynched. My thought process there is that maybe mala is actually a scum redirector and she's already told you she'll move the shot.

Also, you can fuck off from tellling me what I will and will not do.

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So you're saying you only have 1 partner? Good to know.

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Explain how a motivator has anything to do with your ascetic claim?

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Um.. what?

A Motivator is a role that can target a player at Night to allow them to use an extra action during the following Night. Note that factional abilities such as the Mafia's Night-kill cannot be used twice in one Night.

I don't think I follow your train of thought?

Explain please?

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And you know what else scum likes to do. Derail the thread pointless things. You know I would have blown off if pushed and therefore subtly push my button to force a fight between us, preventing the rest from focusing on other players.

p-edit: Let me find the role I had in mind when I said that, then.

Lol. All I said was that I didn't like your slot because it looked like you got a town read and was coasting (I mean, you came and posted song lyrics and nothing else) and you completely overreacted and blew it out of proportion. I would expect town to do townie things and actually try to scumhunt instead of freaking out and getting defensive and using bs excuses not to do anything else.

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And you know what else scum likes to do. Derail the thread pointless things. You know I would have blown off if pushed and therefore subtly push my button to force a fight between us, preventing the rest from focusing on other players.

p-edit: Let me find the role I had in mind when I said that, then.

Lol. All I said was that I didn't like your slot because it looked like you got a town read and was coasting (I mean, you came and posted song lyrics and nothing else) and you completely overreacted and blew it out of proportion. I would expect town to do townie things and actually try to scumhunt instead of freaking out and getting defensive and using bs excuses not to do anything else.

Funny, cos that's exactly what you're doing right now, using bs excuses to focus on me and not doing anything else.

Um, no? You used the excuse that you can't do anything Day 1 to fucking coast by.

I'm pushing a scumread.

There's a difference.

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Beeboy:

If you think I'm likely town, put ari right next to me.

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Ari, why is LLd likely town?

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Hey Mollie.

What are your thoughts on LLD again?

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Try again.