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so um, to be the first who starts some serious discussion.
This whole 'stranded' thing...it basically means we don't actually have a lynch, right?
and if we run out of shots, we are just fucked and game's over?
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if every townie targets the one above them
then we have it guaranteed the stranded player dies and the strongman dies
but we can't kill scum anymore so we instalose?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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I did not suggest it as a good plan, I suggested it as a doom plan.
and the role PM sort of suggests citizens have only one shot, and what's the point in barricading if you have to CHOOSE to use it? because all maf kills are strongman, lol
and I missed the part where the stranding is only ifno lynch is reached.
so it's fine.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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nay, after the strongman dies, the backup becomes strongmanIn post 26, lane0168 wrote:Only 1 mafia kill is strongman. The others are backupIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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lolololololololIn post 83, pisskop wrote:Why are you using a 2008 accountIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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true datIn post 86, lane0168 wrote:In post 77, Realeo wrote:
I can use some help.In post 76, pisskop wrote:I guess you could meta me, but I doubt you will because nobody does. not properly.
How do you get a sufficient meta in 4 minutes? I mean I can't... Eh fuck this I'm hailf drunk with a headache. I'll come back tomorrow.In post 78, Realeo wrote:Myeah, the meta check out. You pretty much roll like that.
Argument out of the window, then.
VOTE: Realeo
nobody gets meta so quickIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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QFT
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Precisely.In post 111, lane0168 wrote:In post 44, shos wrote:I thought I was a one-shot bulletproof and a one-shot vig.
So you confirmed telling the mod you are 1 shot of each and he didn't correct you?In post 45, shos wrote:[read the role PM (not carefully enough it appears) before reading the rules and setup]
And realeo: I am a grad student lol, that does not hold water.
One does not meta RVS alone. What is to be gained? If this is what you say you did, please elaborate on what you were looking for, what you found, and how that influenced you?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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The real question is why gou would egen try to check those facts and whther or not you actually did that check or you are lying.
Why is being gibberish scummy for you? Did you also meta me for my gibberish?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Il be here tomorrow.
Lol jk
Lane it is legit that peoplenotify that they are busy. Also considering that like 5 people got confused withthe rules, im p sure it is not a scumtellIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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You septuple-posting wont help me underatand
There is no misunderstanding here
There are two contradicting options
I want clarification from the mod, not you.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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That thing about lane is correct, I didnt think about it. When youbare town and someone continues your train of thoughts you nod and say "YESZ". You dont attack the one agreeing with you.
Anyway, realeo, you are wrong because even if scum have only 1 strongman shot, the othrr kill can damage non-barricading town.
Generally, again, we must doscuss the setup because it is to our best. Everyone must understand that the only way we have to harm scum is by nightkilling them. We cannot all use our barricade.
If we all shoot, we have good chances of hitting some scum. But we may also lose at least 3 townies.
Since we are guaranteed 2 deaths at least if we do so, we shouldnt all barricade,but also shouldnt tell who is and who isnt. In my opinion, after d1 we still have no idea about flips, so only shoot if you have a reallly good scumread. Then later we will reveal ithose who barricaded before those who took shots and see what we can gather. We also must remember to try and avoid the masons...In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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I disagree. Being a town leader on a mislynch does not earn you scum points imo. Much more scumpoints are goven for 'agreeing and sheeping' someone else who leads a mislynch.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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@50: I really hope people do not shoot only out of policy. Considering the gamestate, people should consider whether or not theres a townie who would shoot them etc.
Btw, in hopes that at least one mason survoves the night, I think it is best if they only speak up after one dies, and for that, at least one of them should barricade each night they are both alive.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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50, if you missed it, Ive been llayimg this game more than you. Setup advice are needed at this point because this is just about the point where we all understood what the setup is, and we REALLY have to be smart with it because we do not have the lynching mechanism and can lost 3 townies per night even wothout shooting our own.
Where am I fishing for masons? I wrote guidelines for what I would do at night if I were them in order to help town utilize their existence the best. I do not understand any point you tried making if there was one.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Shaddow, i dont recall a reason to vote you?
And do you think this is what lane was doing? Scumhunting through who-agrees-with?
He just said it washis line of questioning. Didnt call scum.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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I've read up to page 14 not including. in my opinion, if we can find a plan that PROVES responsibility for stuff that happen which deviate from plan, we should use it. The only think I currently can think of that fits is if we divide to threes, where two kill the third and the third barricades. That way if anyone who had to die survives we know that one of the shooters is scum.
This means we can force the scum kills OR narrow down pools largely.
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guys the setup is symmetrical. We don't have to go 1-2 3-4 5-6 by PVs plan, we just have to decide which couples do that, which we can do by scumhunting. All we need is that the most scummy ones are defending. PV's plan may be solid.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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I think PV's plan is solid.
if we scumhunt today, order our 6 most scummy people, and have them barricade while the other 6 shoot them, we should be at our best position, I think.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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that is, of course, assuming we have at least some capability to scumhunt. We only need to narrow scum down to 6 for that to work.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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That doesn't matter, again, we can choose to reorder the list as we wishIn post 366, kraska77 wrote:
forgot to add: dont forget that the current list in the OP is the signup order list, guysIn post 359, kraska77 wrote:if we come out night one with nothing that points to strongman's location
then switch up even and odd roles, as its likely strongman and a goon are adjacent on the list in a way that made it possible for strongman not to be caught
that way, the only way strongman would not be caught no matter what is if theyre positioned between 2 goons...and the probability for that to be true is too low given that roles were randomisedIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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why not?In post 375, Realeo wrote:
This is potentially better but no cigar.In post 362, shos wrote:guys the setup is symmetrical. We don't have to go 1-2 3-4 5-6 by PVs plan, we just have to decide which couples do that, which we can do by scumhunting. All we need is that the most scummy ones are defending.
that kinda throws all that you say out the window lolIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Can we officially say that we have a plan and start over D1 as a normal scumhunting game, so that we can end today with a stranded guy and a list of 6 X shoots Ys?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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This streak of posts is one of the worst trainwrecks ive seen lol
Im literally laughing loud
I have enough reasons to keep my vote on you. First would be the above flailing attempt to derail a good town strategy.
We talk and play like normal. We decide on 6 scummy and shoot them. It doesnt matter who shoots who.
If scum nokill we just repeat. We have no lynch so they kinda have to eventually.
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That is the point of choosing 6 people.
If we choose well, the shooters will not have scum. If we fail, and coincidentally that scum shooter is supposed to shoot his buddy, then yes, a kill goes through. Hence setup is not broken. But then we have rhem paired up.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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how on earth did you count at least four townies dying?
since all town shots are nullified, even if we are 100% incorrect, there are only 3 deaths, and we have 10 alive with at least 3 conftowns.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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VOTE: pisskop
His refusal to cooperate with literally anything is annoying the fuck out of me and by now I think it is clear that this is needed. not going to let this be a shooter.
PV's plan is a good one. My refinement where we scumhunt and choose the 6 scummy ones to be shot is good, and kraska's refinement about N2 is reaaaally nice (should anything bad happen N1, that is).
Currently, I have three townreads:
{PV, kraska, moi}
and 2 scumreads:
{pisskop, realeo}.
That is where I stand.
also the above posts in this page look terribad. Realeo should really be shot as welel.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Im really saying out loud "what the hell" when I read your posts piss. Seriously.
Is there anyone who still disagrees to scumhunt as usual and have the most scummy half being shot as per PVs plan?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Im phoneposting, I missed moi not agreeing. Will get to that when i get time.
And pisskop - once again - our plan, even if rabdom - without D1 scumhunting - only allows scum 1.5 kills. If we do scumhunt, scum will have AT BEST 1 kill.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Restating jn case this is not clear:
We choose the 7 most scummy people. Strand 1, and have the others shot by the 6 not chosen. Any scum in those 7 cannot make a kill without dying.
If you think so, tell me why this is badIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Assume 1 scum is outside of those 7: then we lose 1 townie. No biggie, we recalibrate and go again. If we truly suck and 2 scums are out, we lose 2, still no biggie and we have a small pool to find those 2 from, in addition to the masons claiming D2 in such case.
Worst case scenario for you realeo - we missed ALL THREE SCUMS. This means we lose 3 townies, have 4 conftowns. So 10 alive, 4 conftowns, 7 shots at night. Each one of the 6 gets a shot. At least 1 scum dies, if scum try to kill more than that then more scum die.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Im glad vedith gets it right
Going to stop answering this thing, lol
I am wasting my time here.
We need to start the actual scumhunting part of the day, for that we need the lurkers to not lurk.
Should we start rvs? We can leave realeo and pisskop aside lol
Pedit: what the fuck do you want,Jesus.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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We only need 7 people agreeing actually
If any of the townies who know they are going to be shot doesnt cooperate they just suicide, that will be stupid as fuck, no matter how pisskop screamsIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Yeah, sure, I guess. This setup with no lynch robs town of loads of its power. With this town im officially giving up. See you in the dead thread, townies!
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lane0168 is shot by PV
Almost50 by MoI
Epod~lady is shot by shaddowez
KuroiXHF by shos
Realeo by vedith
Nosferatu by kraska
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*thinks*
both Kuroi and Almost50 seem to have completely ignored the part where this is a hypothetical of what we'd do if we worked my way
it is literally one post above that.
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50, the point was to revisit that post game. I also don't see the point jn AtE in mafia, I dont do that as scum.
Realeo, youve fucked the thread long enough - where exactly is that middle ground?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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