Mini 1826: The Purge - Game Over
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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Is peregineV still alive? I really want to sort him before the shooting starts."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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shos Survivor
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In post 728, Almost50 wrote:
This IS basically a scumclaim!! Someone doesn't even recognize how the SIMPLE game mechanics work after 700+ posts can't be of a town mindset.In post 714, kraska77 wrote:VOTE: no lynch/strand/whatdver
If you're going to misshoot town atleast don't deprive them of their shot
@shos shoot a50 with me...I don't think pisskop is scum here
Can we start ignoring this one nowIn post 746, Almost50 wrote:Ok, then I stand corrected!
So you want all 13 of us to carry guns in the night, right??
Now explain how that works with the plan you've been rooting for. A gentleman's agreement that the odd person will not shoot?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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shos Survivor
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realeo. Ill put it really simple.In post 773, Realeo wrote:
Why would scum barricade if they are not being shot?In post 709, shos wrote:About my plan. If scum barricade then clearly there arent going to be 2.7 town deaths, right?
Assuming no plan, scum do not know if they are being shot.
Therefore they have two choices.
1. Shooting and not barricading, thus causing 2.07 kills on average
2. Barricading and not shooting,thus causing 1 town death but possibly surviving longer
You so you have [0.38+average goon deaths] vs 2.07 town deaths.
Do we understand each other now?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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Isn't this the definition of random killing?Assuming no plan, scum do not know if they are being shot."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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I mean, random killing is no public plan right? That's what is the second computer simulation for."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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Let us start by making definition:
shos's plan : 6 scummies being shot by 6 townies.
rk plan : Everyone kills anyone that they want. Scum maximizes their number by shooting 3 different subject
Am I correct?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Before a50 comes and screams nonsense for 3 more pages, I am clarifying my point.
1. Compare apples to apples
What realeo computes are the chances for each plan withOUT scumhunting. THEN, you can compare them.
2. Compare oranges to oranges
Then, when you have, say, plan A has X and Y town and scum deaths, and plan B has them X1 and Y1. Now, you can add the scumhunting factor.
Plan A (mine) gets added value in the choice of the 6 people being shot. If one of those is the SM, we have a scum death. If some are goons, we force them not to kill.
Plan B gets the added value that scum may simply be shot if the town chooses cprrectly.
The imprpvement in both cases should be about equal in my opinion, therefore computing the 'apples' part should do.
Pedit: yes, you are correct.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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I don't concur.The imprpvement in both cases should be about equal in my opinion
In random killing, if town shoots you, then it's over. You can't wifom it. You can wifom mafia kill but not town kill.
In shos' plan, town still has to answer thisIf SM is death and 1 town kill, does this mean : (a)Both scum are being shot or (b)Wifom?
In random killing, a perfect scumhunting seals the deal. In your plan, mafia can still destroy a perfect scumhunting."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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That doesnt matter, 1-1 ratio is perfect and we repeat the process. The idea is to only hunt the SM night by night and force the goons, hopefully, to not kill town while we do that.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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In both plan, we have to hunt the SM and both the goons(to force them not to kill town in shos' plan), right?
If both of them requires the same method, why take the hard way when you can take the easy way?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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To shos's plan to be actually work and reach best case scenario, we need to get 3of3. In random killing, we only need to get 2of3."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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shos Survivor
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Nah, 2 town deaths is just fine, too, even 3. We only need to get the SM; it is preferable to also get thr goons of course, but if we dont it is still good because next night we can choose better out of the shooters.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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My problem with the random killing part is that the worst case is not so unviable and it means game over immediately. In my plan worst case is reaaaally not that bad, we have more attempts to go and we have much valuable information ro use.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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In my plan you can survive even two consecutive nights of 3 town deaths and still roll well with good info [no strand and 4 nightshots need to kill 3 scum]In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Vedith Survivor
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That's because Shos is probably town.In post 760, kraska77 wrote:also shos/realeo team lineup is still really dumb
idk why im the only one pointing that outI claim scum \o/-
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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If we sucks at scumhunting, then we are going to lose anyway. Just slow death or quick death.
We only need to get the SM; it is preferable to also get thr goons of course, but if we dont it is still good because next night we can choose better out of the shooters.For scumhunters who read this, this is a scum flailing. We only need to get 2of3 for town win. shos is making it hard to get 2of3."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Why the fuck would he be dead?In post 775, Realeo wrote:Is peregineV still alive? I really want to sort him before the shooting starts.I claim scum \o/-
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Town don't post like this.In post 790, Realeo wrote:For scumhunters who read this, this is a scum flailing. We only need to get 2of3 for town win. shos is making it hard to get 2of3.
To comment "scumhunters" is just to give the false illusion that you're doing shit.I claim scum \o/-
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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In post 791, shos wrote:Huh? Is this game white flag?You like game breaking strategy, right? Isn't it obvious what is the game breaking strategy when there is only 1 scum left?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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What's that?In post 794, Realeo wrote:In post 791, shos wrote:Huh? Is this game white flag?You like game breaking strategy, right? Isn't it obvious what is the game breaking strategy when there is only 1 scum left?I claim scum \o/-
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Spoiler: If nobody managed to find the game breaking strategy"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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If you find something wrong, point it out instead of saying people to stahp."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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