Mini 1837: Family Mafia (GAME OVER)

House · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:53 pm

VOTE: kraska77

You pregame bully!

House · Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:55 pm

(I'm just kidding btw)

House · Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:03 pm

kraska don't know me like that, so I'll...

VOTE: dramonic

First poster deserves first wagon.

House · Post Post #15 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:15 pm

Ehhhh.

House · Post Post #17 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:18 pm

In post 16, SpyreX wrote:P3 quicklynch i believe in you all

I belive in the me that believes in you

You are the wind beneath my wings!

VOTE: SpicyJalapeñoKnocks

House · Post Post #19 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:27 pm

In post 18, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 15, House wrote:Ehhhh.
Hm. I like your vote, but what was this about?

First poster should have gotten first wagon.

Sour grapes.

SpyreX is cool, though. If I couldn't get first wagon, I'm good with him leading the charge.

House · Post Post #26 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:45 pm

In post 24, camn wrote:giga's on the shortlist for culling.

No!

Giggles is fun. Give her a day, at least.

House · Post Post #28 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:45 pm

In post 26, House wrote:
In post 24, camn wrote:giga's on the shortlist for culling.
No!

Giggles is fun. Give them a day, at least.

EBWOP

House · Post Post #35 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:03 pm

In post 34, camn wrote:shortlist for today's lynch:

kraska77
SpicyJalapeñoKnocks
SirCakez

And how did those three earn that honor?

House · Post Post #37 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:40 pm

In post 36, UpTooLate wrote:
This is a great spot for a VC!

What makes that spot so great for a VC?

FoS: UpTooLate

House · Post Post #43 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:29 pm

In post 42, camn wrote:
In post 35, House wrote:
In post 34, camn wrote:shortlist for today's lynch:

kraska77
SpicyJalapeñoKnocks
SirCakez
And how did those three earn that honor?
Its almost random, really.
AT THIS POINT in the game.. I would be OK with their lynch.

(obv its still page 1- things are very dynamic )

p-edit! NACHO!
Im sheeping you until I wanna sheep Spyrex again.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SirCakes

They hadn't even posted yet though.

House · Post Post #82 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:38 am

In post 69, Elyse wrote:
In post 9, House wrote:(I'm just kidding btw)
VOTE: House

I think you're missing context.

House · Post Post #83 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:42 am

Elyse, kraska and I had a bit of a pregame row over bullying in the sigil thread.

I made a joke over it, but then decided better off it because I was making an assumption that kraska would see the humor whereas it could have reignited conflict if they didn't.

House · Post Post #84 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:42 am

In post 83, House wrote:Elyse, kraska and I had a bit of a pregame row over bullying in the signup thread.

I made a joke over it, but then decided better of it because I was making an assumption that kraska would see the humor whereas it could have reignited conflict if they didn't.

EBWOP

House · Post Post #86 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:53 am

In post 85, kraska77 wrote:
In post 83, House wrote: I made a joke over it, but then decided better off it because I was making an assumption that kraska would see the humor whereas it could have reignited conflict if they didn't.
hey no worries

got any reads yet house?

Yup. SpyreX is town.

House · Post Post #88 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:26 am

... SO town.

House · Post Post #91 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:36 am

In post 89, SpyreX wrote:You're my kind of people house.

Hrm.

House · Post Post #92 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:37 am

In post 90, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: nacho
The sheeple should go here instead of camn. Camn is just an innocent farmer I believe.

Why?

House · Post Post #95 (isolation #18) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:42 am

VOTE: Nacho

Let's not lynch Spicy before he has a chance to push somebody.

I'm dying to say he's jalapeno business.

House · Post Post #103 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:26 am

In post 100, SirCakez wrote:I mean like "too defensive" implies scumminess

Or panicky town.

VOTE: Spicy

Fun wagons are fun.

House · Post Post #105 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:30 am

In post 104, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:(I'm assuming, correct me if i'm wrong)

You're wrong.

House · Post Post #107 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:31 am

In post 104, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:If your vote on Nacho wasn't serious, why the vote hop in the first place?

There's just as much justification for either wagon (0), so I don't see why it matters.

House · Post Post #108 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:32 am

In post 106, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 104, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:If your vote on Nacho wasn't serious, why the vote hop in the first place?

Dammit Giggles give me thirty seconds!

House · Post Post #110 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:34 am

In post 109, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Wait, Cakeboy wasn't making a serious vote?

Cakeboy, is your vote serious?

also sorry i thought you'd respond in one post

Idk if he

thinks

he's serious, but he's clearly not.

House · Post Post #111 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:35 am

In post 109, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:also sorry i thought you'd respond in one post

Hi select & quote to keep things simple on the phone.

House · Post Post #114 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 9:39 am

In post 68, kraska77 wrote:why am i and cakeboy priority to scrutinise?

In post 68, kraska77 wrote:im unfamiliar with majority of the playerlist and the majority of the playerlist is unfamiliar with me so like people obviously will need to interact with me longer to parse me compared to someone theyre more familiar with.

*ahem*

House · Post Post #180 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:08 pm

In post 177, SpyreX wrote:mouthwords

House · Post Post #184 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:13 pm

In post 182, camn wrote:Though I think he has caught the vigshot a lot as scum lately, too... so maybe he is slipping.

So camn, is it safe to assume you're scum if you live pay n1?

House · Post Post #185 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:14 pm

In post 184, House wrote:
In post 182, camn wrote:Though I think he has caught the vigshot a lot as scum lately, too... so maybe he is slipping.
So camn, is it safe to assume you're scum if you live past n1?

EBWOP

House · Post Post #202 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:37 pm

In post 193, kraska77 wrote:
In post 114, House wrote:
In post 68, kraska77 wrote:why am i and cakeboy priority to scrutinise?

In post 68, kraska77 wrote:im unfamiliar with majority of the playerlist and the majority of the playerlist is unfamiliar with me so like people obviously will need to interact with me longer to parse me compared to someone theyre more familiar with.
*ahem*
Next line
In post 68, kraska77 wrote:like those are really meh pressure targets to make prioty to campaign for as theyre probably happening at some point anyway.

The point is, you stated yourself the very reason to start early scrutiny of you.

House · Post Post #207 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:41 pm

In post 197, camn wrote:
In post 184, House wrote:So camn, is it safe to assume you're scum if you live past n1?
Well- I happen to be town no matter HOW long I live but I am working on a pretty sick run of N1 kills.
BUT, I have been trying to play scummier and scummier every game.... so maybe I can manage to make it to N2 this time?
I guess if I were scum, I would kill me too.. because I am
TERRIFYING
! (
i joke. i joke. I really don't get it.
)

House · Post Post #209 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:45 pm

In post 203, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 201, kraska77 wrote:I can see the incentive behind his nacho vote and he's sticking out his neck a little...looks town

good, then i can feel comfortable calling this ^ my happy town family

i had slight pause about cakey because i do agree that the logic around his read on you is ??? but tbh it could be worse

(in lieu of readlists i will make edits to this picture for all of my townreads. spyrex might be the family dog but i'm still thinking about that one)

I'm not so sure on Cakez, but the rest looks pretty chill.

Think I'd swap Cakey out with camn, tbh.

House · Post Post #210 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:47 pm

Actually, I'd have SpyreX up in there for sure because SpyreX.

House · Post Post #216 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:53 pm

Not a fan of his attack on defensiveness.

There are town AND scum reasons for being defensive, and wtf is TOO defensive? Should town just roll over and be lynched to avoid looking too defensive? How does that work?

I just find his push to be Meh, and he's campaigning for town leader with his multiple votes, where he hopped from one to the next when he didn't get a bunch of followers.

Looked tryhard.

Just not a fan of his play.

House · Post Post #219 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:56 pm

In post 214, Postie wrote:House, can you tell me more about your SpyreX townread?

Does

scum

SpyreX!scum open the game banging the quicklynch kickdrum in 2-Pac "All Eyez On Me" fashion?

Granted, I don't have a ton of meta on him, but that'd be balls as hell.

House · Post Post #224 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:58 pm

In post 217, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Wasn't he criticizing Nacho for making an attack on defensiveness though?

Not from what I read. He even argued with me about it.

House · Post Post #225 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:00 pm

In post 220, kraska77 wrote:Wait I'm confused
Who was cake refering to when he was talking about defencivness? I thought he said nacho's push on me was making me look defencive/scummy?

He equated defensiveness with scumminess.

That's my point.

House · Post Post #228 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:03 pm

In post 223, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 220, kraska77 wrote:Wait I'm confused
Who was cake refering to when he was talking about defencivness? I thought he said nacho's push on me was making me look defencive/scummy?
i think you have it right which is why i'm not sure house is on the right page about his criticism of cakey

I am though!

I completely disagree with the whole "too defensive" bs and I don't think he actually believes that.

House · Post Post #238 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:08 pm

In post 230, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:gonna move my vote back to dwlee once i look at a votecount

Hydra wagon hasn't moved since last VC. L-2.

House · Post Post #240 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:09 pm

In post 232, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:VOTE: Spicy

L-1

Oh you saw.

House · Post Post #249 (isolation #40) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:18 pm

In post 245, dramonic wrote:
In post 203, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 201, kraska77 wrote:I can see the incentive behind his nacho vote and he's sticking out his neck a little...looks town

good, then i can feel comfortable calling this ^ my happy town family

i had slight pause about cakey because i do agree that the logic around his read on you is ??? but tbh it could be worse

(in lieu of readlists i will make edits to this picture for all of my townreads. spyrex might be the family dog but i'm still thinking about that one)
That is one awful townbloc.

You jelly like Minelli.

House · Post Post #256 (isolation #41) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:31 pm

I'll just have to do this instead.

dayvig

Spicy

House · Post Post #260 (isolation #42) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:41 pm

In post 259, Postie wrote:Alright that makes me feel better about the buddying.

Please stop obvtowning so much.

Too many people competing for n1 honors.

House · Post Post #262 (isolation #43) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:53 pm

In post 261, Postie wrote:<3

So, why is Spicy town?

House · Post Post #264 (isolation #44) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:58 pm

Um...

House · Post Post #265 (isolation #45) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:59 pm

In post 196, Postie wrote:
In post 191, kraska77 wrote:Hi postie got any reads?
giga's town. House is probably town. I think
SpicyJalapeñoKnocks more likely town than not
but I really wish they were scum.
dram is still a good lynch.

What about you?

???

House · Post Post #269 (isolation #46) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:04 pm

In post 266, dramonic wrote:
In post 253, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:fine, postie

In post 245, dramonic wrote:That is one awful townbloc.
VOTE: Dramonic

reads?
some

Who in Giggles' town reads are awful and why?

House · Post Post #271 (isolation #47) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:05 pm

In post 268, Postie wrote:
In post 265, House wrote:???
Oh yeah I said that. It's mostly a gut thing I keep going back and forth on so it's close to not a read.

This post makes me a sad panda.

House · Post Post #275 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:09 pm

In post 272, dramonic wrote:Probably one of the five newest players on site, OMG FRIENDSHIP!!!

EDIT: zito so full of hate

I bow to your tremendous experience, o wizened one.

Teach me, why is friendship in a social game blasphemy?

I await your words of wisdom and deep understanding of the cosmic truths of mafia.

House · Post Post #279 (isolation #49) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:16 pm

I love Elyse's "Yeah, WHATEVER!" avatar, lol.

House · Post Post #281 (isolation #50) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:29 pm

In post 277, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:anyway based on ACTUAL SCIENCE i have an 80% chance of reading kraska correctly (margin of error (MoE) of ~45%)

Did you intentionally state your ability to read her amounts to (roughly) the same averages as a toss of a coin? (Slightly lower, actually)

I don't care who you are, that's funny right thar!

House · Post Post #282 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:30 pm

In post 280, SpyreX wrote:Every time i watch himym i find new ways that show lily is just an awful human being.

Im disappointed in you game

But Hannigan was SO adorable in American Pie!

House · Post Post #286 (isolation #52) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:03 pm

In post 284, dramonic wrote:
In post 275, House wrote:
In post 272, dramonic wrote:Probably one of the five newest players on site, OMG FRIENDSHIP!!!

EDIT: zito so full of hate
I bow to your tremendous experience, o wizened one.

Teach me, why is friendship in a social game blasphemy?

I await your words of wisdom and deep understanding of the cosmic truths of mafia.
friendly/pleasant != town.

I'm neither friendly nor pleasant.

Am I town?

House · Post Post #287 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:04 pm

In post 285, dramonic wrote:I need a
b
itter
o
ld
m
en
b
rigade

That'd be da

bomb

, yo!

House · Post Post #290 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:13 pm

In post 289, camn wrote:Am I smelling a nacho wagon?
Hm. I could maybe get behind that.

If Elyse is town, I'm going to happily sheep her ftw.

I just wish she'd post more so I could sort her.

House · Post Post #296 (isolation #55) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:42 am

*grumbles agreement*

House · Post Post #298 (isolation #56) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:47 am

In post 297, dramonic wrote:kinda proving my point

Seriously, what the fuck have I ever done to you?

House · Post Post #318 (isolation #57) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:44 pm

In post 315, SirCakez wrote:
In post 311, SpyreX wrote:Cakes bringing the hard hitting journalism.

You've got two heads producing that. Yes i want you lynched. Would i be shocked if you flipped town? No. Would i cry tears of regret? No.

This nacho wagon is boring. Too boring in fact. But just the right level of boring that it will fester until day end and then lo and nehold there we are
It's on scum, not sure why you're complaining

Because it's boring, I'd presume.

House · Post Post #332 (isolation #58) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:42 pm

I kinda like Nacho's responses, tbh.

House · Post Post #334 (isolation #59) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:45 pm

I think Elyse is a bit reachie here, but I don't think it's a deliberate act.

House · Post Post #335 (isolation #60) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:48 pm

I mean idk, she thought I was scum because I backed off from a joke, and then bounced on to this case on Nacho...

Seems kinda high profile doubtcasting for scum.

House · Post Post #342 (isolation #61) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:28 pm

Policy lynch?

House · Post Post #357 (isolation #62) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:08 am

In post 355, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 349, kraska77 wrote:post 326 nacho votes elyse and this is totally a valid vote/push to make after his rebuttal of her case...but then he goes on to say he acknowledges that elyse could be town and i feel this negates the effect of his vote if that was supposed to pressure her...
I was acknowledging a different point of view (that I have considered) before explaining why I didn't think it was the case. I find that keeping in mind that the person you are pushing could be town is a healthy way to approach the game in general.

If you don't believe they're scum, why do you want them lynched?

House · Post Post #358 (isolation #63) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:09 am

In post 356, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 354, SpyreX wrote:Well you're not getting me to vote dram from his silly but let's talk portions since you guys are haters
spyrex r u ok

He can't get people to vote scum. He sounds legit annoyed.

House · Post Post #361 (isolation #64) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:23 am

In post 360, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 357, House wrote:
In post 355, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 349, kraska77 wrote:post 326 nacho votes elyse and this is totally a valid vote/push to make after his rebuttal of her case...but then he goes on to say he acknowledges that elyse could be town and i feel this negates the effect of his vote if that was supposed to pressure her...
I was acknowledging a different point of view (that I have considered) before explaining why I didn't think it was the case. I find that keeping in mind that the person you are pushing could be town is a healthy way to approach the game in general.
If you don't believe they're scum, why do you want them lynched?
Believing that someone has a chance of being town =/= believing they are town.

idk, I don't push unless I'm sold.

I'll sheep with the possibility of town, but if I'm sold, I'm selling too.

House · Post Post #367 (isolation #65) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:40 am

In post 362, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 361, House wrote:idk, I don't push unless I'm sold.
Then we are different people, which isn't particularly surprising.

House · Post Post #376 (isolation #66) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:29 am

In post 373, gigabyteTroubadour wrote: 245 didn't feel like a townpost. like
where is the town motivation in taking potshots at someone's townreads if you're not scumreading any of those people?
if he disagreed about one of my reads that's one thing, but that's not at all what he said. also him calling it a townbloc was kind of ???, while i was sheeping cakey at the time i didn't really have any intention to get those 4 people to work together because i still feel like i'm sorting everyone at not super happy with all of my reads. i just don't really get how someone reacts to me saying "I have 4 townreads!" the way he did, it was an overreaction to nothing.

Look at his interactions with me. Do you really think he isn't scumreading ANY of your townreads?

Also, I think your reaction to him calling it a townblock is a tiny bit of an overreaction. Some players do refer to their townreads as a town block, and you lumped a bunch of us into one post in such a way that it could be seen as such.

Not saying that he is town, but your suspicions seem a little wobbly.

House · Post Post #379 (isolation #67) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:36 am

In post 201, kraska77 wrote:I can see the incentive behind his nacho vote and he's sticking out his neck a little...looks town

If someone knows that sticking their neck out makes them look town... are they really sticking their neck out?

House · Post Post #381 (isolation #68) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:39 am

In post 378, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 376, House wrote:Do you really think he isn't scumreading ANY of your townreads?
294 you mean? Seems ambiguous as to how he reads you honestly, he could just dislike you as a person.

but yeah i do agree that my read on him is kind of wobbly and dumb, a lot of my early scumreads are

pedit: i mean if you say so but but normal dram behavior is still normal dram behavior for scum dram...

So you admit your read is wobbly, but say normal (for dram) behavior that gave you that read is still worth reading him as scum over?

House · Post Post #383 (isolation #69) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:42 am

In post 382, Papa Zito wrote:{insert obligatory meta-is-bad statement here}

{insert behavioral quirks are not indicative of alignment retort here}

House · Post Post #385 (isolation #70) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:46 am

In post 384, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 381, House wrote:So you admit your read is wobbly, but say normal (for dram) behavior that gave you that read is still worth reading him as scum over?
yes...? i'm not townreading him, i find his few posts scummier than spicy's, nor do i see a better place for a vote

like even if it's a personality tell it's still a scummy personality tell to me

As an owner of a "scummy personality" that has to rely on people to know my playstyle to avoid being mislynched myself, your statement makes me asaaaaaad panda.

House · Post Post #388 (isolation #71) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:52 am

In post 386, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i don't find your playstyle scummy though

It totally is, Giggles.

This game is a little different because there are some cool people in the player list, but I'm generally abrasive and brash as town, and I make terrible cases that I'm either scumread for or ignored on (rightfully).

I believe I might have been an IC? in our previous game together? If so, you didn't see much of that side of me because it's not a good thing for newbies to have as a role model so I wind up playing a faker game as an IC.

Seriously though, meta my town games and you'll see a very different House.

House · Post Post #391 (isolation #72) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:57 am

In post 389, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i've followed a lot of your games actually, both as town and scum

I has a stalker?!

Cool!!

House · Post Post #392 (isolation #73) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:58 am

In post 390, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 383, House wrote:
In post 382, Papa Zito wrote:{insert obligatory meta-is-bad statement here}
{insert behavioral quirks are not indicative of alignment retort here}
is this real life

Is it being played by real live people?

House · Post Post #394 (isolation #74) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:14 am

In post 390, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 383, House wrote:
In post 382, Papa Zito wrote:{insert obligatory meta-is-bad statement here}
{insert behavioral quirks are not indicative of alignment retort here}
is this real life

I mean seriously, what kind of response is this?

Is this real life? It is, actually! The people in this game are just as real and just as live as you are, Zito.

It's ready to forget that and test them as mere words on the screen, but we all have our very own set of quirks and, yes, even feelings!

This is something I'm coming to terms with myself, so I understand the confusion I guess.

House · Post Post #395 (isolation #75) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:14 am

In post 394, House wrote:
In post 390, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 383, House wrote:
In post 382, Papa Zito wrote:{insert obligatory meta-is-bad statement here}
{insert behavioral quirks are not indicative of alignment retort here}
is this real life
I mean seriously, what kind of response is this?

Is this real life? It is, actually! The people in this game are just as real and just as live as you are, Zito.

It's easy to forget that and treat them as mere words on the screen, but we all have our very own set of quirks and, yes, even feelings!

This is something I'm coming to terms with myself, so I understand the confusion I guess.

EBWOP

House · Post Post #397 (isolation #76) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:26 am

In post 396, SirCakez wrote:House your personality isn't scummy at all lol
You always get mostly townread

More for sheer activity than people thinking I'm actually town based on my content.

House · Post Post #398 (isolation #77) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:27 am

That's why I'm not lynched often as scum.

House · Post Post #402 (isolation #78) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:33 am

In post 298, House wrote:
In post 297, dramonic wrote:kinda proving my point
Seriously, what the fuck have I ever done to you?

Are you going to answer this?

House · Post Post #404 (isolation #79) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:54 am

In post 403, dramonic wrote:...nothing?
Do you feel like i give you special attention or something?

Thus far you've been pretty salty to me and idk what I've done to deserve it.

House · Post Post #405 (isolation #80) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:58 am

Actually, 275 was kinda snarky lol.

So there is that, I guess.

House · Post Post #408 (isolation #81) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:23 pm

In post 407, camn wrote: Internal dissonance noted.

No dissonance at all.

I haven't been either abrasive or brash, so I found it odd that I'd be getting the "you're an asshole" treatment.

House · Post Post #411 (isolation #82) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:28 pm

In post 409, camn wrote:If you really believed you were such an asshole, you wouldn't think to find it odd.

Probably you are really a giant teddy bear, and your hole persona is a facade

If we really want to discuss this, fine...

I've recently returned from a compelled vacation, so I am making an effort to avoid raging douchebags like JakeFromStateFarm/Robbnva and be a nicer person overall.

So yeah, I'm a little hypervigilant about offending others right now.

House · Post Post #414 (isolation #83) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:42 pm

In post 412, camn wrote:You're a softie.

Spyrex- are you scum?

I'm actually hard. A regular armadillo.

House · Post Post #417 (isolation #84) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:53 pm

In post 415, SirCakez wrote:camn vote
nacho
Spicy for delicious jalapeños

FTFY

House · Post Post #421 (isolation #85) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:58 pm

In post 420, SpyreX wrote:5.) If I'm right I'm so town maybe you won't get nkd

Does camn ever outlive you?

House · Post Post #424 (isolation #86) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:05 pm

In post 423, dramonic wrote:
In post 411, House wrote:I've recently returned from a compelled vacation, so I am making an effort to [SNIP] be a nicer person overall.

In post 286, House wrote:I'm neither friendly nor pleasant.
[insert potshot]

[insert retort that isn't as witty as I think it is]

House · Post Post #428 (isolation #87) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:07 pm

In post 423, dramonic wrote:
In post 411, House wrote:I've recently returned from a compelled vacation, so I am making an effort to [SNIP] be a nicer person overall.

In post 286, House wrote:I'm neither friendly nor pleasant.
[insert potshot]

For serious though, I DID say"making an effort".

It's hard not to feel a bit of animosity towards the source of said vacation.

House · Post Post #429 (isolation #88) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:08 pm

In post 425, Postie wrote:Also

SpicyJalapeñoKnocks is at

L-1

If anyone lolhammers I swear to god

VOTE: SpicyJalapeñoKnocks

You swear to God what?

House · Post Post #431 (isolation #89) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:19 pm

Now to self, never trust Postie with a gambit.

House · Post Post #432 (isolation #90) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:20 pm

Note*

House · Post Post #434 (isolation #91) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:28 pm

In post 433, Postie wrote:Oh

Oops

Something you should know about me...

I gambit so much I'm an honorary member of the X-Men.

House · Post Post #437 (isolation #92) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:57 pm

In post 436, SpyreX wrote:House i had a moment of joy crushed

My life is complete.

House · Post Post #444 (isolation #93) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:19 pm

In post 440, kraska77 wrote:@house who is scum who is town

People and other people.

House · Post Post #445 (isolation #94) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:20 pm

In post 441, SpyreX wrote:It weirds me out how nonchalant everyone is about this wagon

It's d1. It's just as good/bad as any other wagon would be.

House · Post Post #447 (isolation #95) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:28 pm

In post 446, SpyreX wrote:
In post 445, House wrote:
In post 441, SpyreX wrote:It weirds me out how nonchalant everyone is about this wagon
It's d1. It's just as good/bad as any other wagon would be.

That's not even what i mean. It just is. Like a floating ball of death we've just become used to

I thought you'd be celebrating that.

House · Post Post #451 (isolation #96) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:10 pm

In post 448, kraska77 wrote:Well house this post is still oozing weird
In post 413, kraska77 wrote:
In post 379, House wrote:
In post 201, kraska77 wrote:I can see the incentive behind his nacho vote and he's sticking out his neck a little...looks town
If someone knows that sticking their neck out makes them look town... are they really sticking their neck out?
Did you just go out of your way to quote a post I made pages ago that has no relevance to current discussion, to ask me a vacuous question...?
you think cakes is scum or what?

More rhetorical than vacuous.

House · Post Post #464 (isolation #97) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:10 am

Nacho, you're like a multitasking SpyreX, lol.

Also, I really wish lurker hydra would post.

That said, I disagree with the assertion that just because they are lurky now means they'll necessarily be lurky the entire game.

Yeah, their entrance was garbage, but lynch worthy?

Idk man,

UNVOTE:

House · Post Post #465 (isolation #98) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:11 am

In post 462, kraska77 wrote:An elyse wagon is something I feel people will actually have opinions about.

Yeah I have an opinion about it... gtfo with that nonsense.

Elyse isn't a d1 option.

House · Post Post #466 (isolation #99) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:14 am

VOTE: hiplop

What a garbage ISO. Wow.

House · Post Post #468 (isolation #100) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:33 am

In post 467, kraska77 wrote:Why did you unvote someone with a garbage iso only to vote another person with a garbage iso?

Because unlike the hydra, hiplop has flown COMPLETELY under the radar.

Duh.

House · Post Post #470 (isolation #101) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:44 am

In post 469, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 467, kraska77 wrote:Why did you unvote someone with a garbage iso only to vote another person with a garbage iso?
Yeah exactly.

They're literally the same right now.

And who has said shit all about hiplop?

Exactly.

House · Post Post #481 (isolation #102) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:15 am

Or you two could brain up and lynch hiplop.

House · Post Post #515 (isolation #103) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:33 pm

In post 514, SpicyJalapeñoKnocks wrote:
In post 511, Postie wrote:Dwlee can you please give town a good reason to not lynch you rather than sitting around on your butt doing absolutely nothing. You're literally active lurking at this point.
I was sick Sunday through Wednesday, still got the sniffles but not too bad. I've got school to do, this game comes after my schoolwork / sleep / sanity. Genda has a calc midterm tomorrow, so he is probably studying for that. You can check my post effort / frequency after school started - It went way down, so you cannot argue that this is alignment indicative in anyway and policy lynching me because I can't devote a lot of time during the week is just silly.
~Dwlee

While I absolutely agree that school and rl take precedence over a game, I think it would be prudent to replace out if you can't commit to it.

It's unfair to your slot, and it's unfair to your faction to be so inactive (this goes for you too, hiplop!)

House · Post Post #517 (isolation #104) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:45 pm

In post 512, Postie wrote:I'm townreading you but I'm this close to saying fuck it and agreeing to policy lynch you.

What are you townreading him on?

House · Post Post #519 (isolation #105) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:53 pm

In post 518, Postie wrote:
In post 461, Postie wrote:Really super not convinced that scum would respond to their own lynch by trolling the thread and egging people on either, which I think is what was pinging me as gut town earlier.
Mostly this. Like if you've got the pressure of your death actually being a large loss to your team and potentially your partners yelling at you to do something over daytalk then I don't buy that you'd come in and do... that.

Are you speculating on what is being said in mafia chat?

For all we know, lurking could be his strategy to wait out the wagon that is, sure enough, falling apart.

My main hesitation is the way it built up and stayed big. I'm thinking there had to be scum on the wagon, of they still aren't.

I doubt scum would bus d1. My hesitation has nothing to do with their content, because their content is shit.

House · Post Post #530 (isolation #106) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:49 pm

Parse results: Elyse is town.

VOTE: Nacho

House · Post Post #532 (isolation #107) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:06 pm

In post 526, Elyse wrote:Why claim now and not immediately?

Unless it's not a serious claim? I can never tell these days.

Tiny bit of overanalysis on your part, I think.

camn eats much nk and is trying to discourage it, lol.

I like your Nacho case, though.

House · Post Post #535 (isolation #108) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:10 am

In post 534, SirCakez wrote:Scum team is nacho/spyre/hiplop?

And how do you get that?

House · Post Post #538 (isolation #109) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:09 am

I am not enthused by that vote.

House · Post Post #542 (isolation #110) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:19 am

In post 540, Papa Zito wrote:I'm not here to enthuse you House I'm here to hunt scum. I know this is a weird concept but stick around you may learn something.

@gT try reading things maybe you'll get it

If you really wanted to hunt scum, you wouldn't be voting obvious nk bait on day one.

House · Post Post #544 (isolation #111) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:21 am

In post 543, Papa Zito wrote:can you tell me what flavor the kool-aid is I'm curious

A grape cherry mix, with a hint of lime.

House · Post Post #553 (isolation #112) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:26 am

Scum!Nacho casting shade on Town!Elyse?

I think so!

House · Post Post #555 (isolation #113) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:41 am

In post 554, SpyreX wrote:Where is the 'shade' in those statements that happened pretty much exactly as written

He's saying that Elyse was bussing Spicy, isn't he?

House · Post Post #557 (isolation #114) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:47 am

In post 556, SpyreX wrote:Whaaat that's not what i got from it

Looked to me like he said scum bussed, AND THEN Elyse decided she was against the wagon.

House · Post Post #569 (isolation #115) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:59 am

In post 566, kraska77 wrote:
In post 332, House wrote:I kinda like Nacho's responses, tbh.

In post 530, House wrote:Parse results: Elyse is town.

VOTE: Nacho

In post 419, camn wrote: c) not sold on nacho-scum

In post 531, camn wrote:k. Lets see.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: nachomamma

*holds pitchfork* so...u 2 explain whats going on here pls

Elyse is town

I trust town!Elyse more than my own reads unless I have some condemning evidence. Just reading people, not all that great at and Elyse has impressed me in the past.

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:25 am

In post 573, SirCakez wrote:
In post 563, Papa Zito wrote:I'm on camn right now for reasons. I'd also vote Elyse for reasons. I'd also happily remove any of {dram, jalapeno, hiplop} because duh.

The camn vote already provoked some interesting reactions, there may be benefits to *squeezing* the *juice*.
"reasons"

"retort"

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:05 am

Nacho, come join the wagon I'm on and give Elyse a day to prove herself.

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:44 am

In post 578, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 571, camn wrote:Plus...nacho is really good. He keeps his secrets at L-4. Does he keep them at L-1? Inquiring minds want to know.
Camn -
When people are wagoning you for bullshit reasons, do you keep your secrets? Or do you get pissed off?

Wouldn't someone that's pissed off be more likely to retain their secrets out of spite?

</semantics>

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:47 am

In post 581, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 579, House wrote:
In post 578, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 571, camn wrote:Plus...nacho is really good. He keeps his secrets at L-4. Does he keep them at L-1? Inquiring minds want to know.
Camn -
When people are wagoning you for bullshit reasons, do you keep your secrets? Or do you get pissed off?
Wouldn't someone that's pissed off be more likely to retain their secrets out of spite?

</semantics>
Generally people who are pissed off don't help the people who they're pissed off but don't mind here I'm just chillin on Planet Earth(tm)

I like it your way much better.

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:49 am

VOTE: hiplop

I'm back to digging this wagon.

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:51 am

In post 583, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 526, Elyse wrote:Notice that Spyrex called the Nacho wagon "boring" (not bad) and thinks it's legitimate enough to stick around until the end of the day.
Hey, House: what do you think of this argument?
Elyse is currently arguing that because SpyreX called my wagon "boring" and didn't explicitly call it "bad" he secretly loves the hell out of it.
Great argument, right? Coming from the place of a strong town player?

Where do you get "love the hell out of"?

Exaggeration for effect does not work well with me, I'm too literal.

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:54 am

In post 584, House wrote:VOTE: hiplop

I'm back to digging this wagon.

Fun Fact

: hiplop has not posted since my vote left them.

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:56 am

In post 587, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 585, House wrote:
In post 583, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 526, Elyse wrote:Notice that Spyrex called the Nacho wagon "boring" (not bad) and thinks it's legitimate enough to stick around until the end of the day.
Hey, House: what do you think of this argument?
Elyse is currently arguing that because SpyreX called my wagon "boring" and didn't explicitly call it "bad" he secretly loves the hell out of it.
Great argument, right? Coming from the place of a strong town player?
Where do you get "love the hell out of"?

Exaggeration for effect does not work well with me, I'm too literal.
Her argument is that because SpyreX used the adjective "boring" instead of "bad", he secretly thinks my wagon is a good one.
Do you think that is a good argument?

I think it's an opinion and not something that can be objectively fact checked, so I'm willing to accept that she thinks that.

Whether i agree or not is irrelevant, the question is whether her belief is genuine

to her

.

You should know all this, so what are you really driving at?

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:01 pm

Do I think she's trusting tryharding right now?

Yes.

Do I think she's scum tryharding? If Elyse is as smooth as scum as you say she is, I don't think she'd be fumbling and tripping all over herself in an early d1 case.

That's awful noobscum, don't you think?

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:01 pm

In post 591, House wrote:Do I think she's
trusting
tryharding right now?

Yes.

Do I think she's scum tryharding? If Elyse is as smooth as scum as you say she is, I don't think she'd be fumbling and tripping all over herself in an early d1 case.

That's awful noobscum, don't you think?

EBWOP

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:09 pm

In post 593, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 589, House wrote:I think it's an opinion and not something that can be objectively fact checked, so I'm willing to accept that she thinks that.

Whether i agree or not is irrelevant, the question is whether her belief is genuine to her.

You should know all this, so what are you really driving at?
When I respect a player, it is because I think that their opinions are better than the opinions of average people.
When you tell me that she is better than you at reading people, I expect you to be analyzing her approach; how is she reading people? What are the points that matter to her, what are the points that she's bringing up?
Your opinion of her matters because she is your sounding board this game; you should be paying attention to her opinion more than anyone else's. I care about your opinion of her because my case on her is coming from a similar perspective to your perspective (a position of respect), and if I'm completely off then you're in the best position to tell me because right at this moment it doesn't feel like she's going to convince me that she's town by the strength of her own posting.

So, once more with feeling:
What do you think of her argument re: SpyreX and adjectives?

It's day fucking one and you two are in a wall war. I hate walls. Wall wars breed apathy, especially mine.

So yeah, I've been slipping the shit out of those alphabetical thunderstorms because can you really point to one instance where town was positively influenced by a war of word floods? Because I can't. Everybody, including myself, tunes them out and looks elsewhere to find scum.

Kind of like, idk... hiplop!

If you're really going to twist my arm on this and make me read that tiresome exchange, I will... under protest.

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:10 pm

In post 594, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 591, House wrote:Do I think she's trusting tryharding right now?

Yes.

Do I think she's scum tryharding? If Elyse is as smooth as scum as you say she is, I don't think she'd be fumbling and tripping all over herself in an early d1 case.

That's awful noobscum, don't you think?
She's strong as either alignment. Stumbling and tripping is abnormal regardless of alignment.

So by your own admission her shitty (by your definition) case is NAI.

What else makes her scum?

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:15 pm

I just don't think 526 is the smoking gun you think it is.

She isn't even commenting on the case against you in that post, she's commenting on somebody

else's

opinion of the case.

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:20 pm

In post 599, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 596, House wrote:So by your own admission her shitty (by your definition) case is NAI.

What else makes her scum?
I don't think that she's stumbling or tripping over herself, I think she's misrepresenting the shit out of an overwhelming majority of cases that she's touching and I think she's doing it because she knows that she's able to get away with it most of the time because, surprise surprise, people don't actually read the games that they're playing. They see a huge wall and they go "effort! probs town" or "I had a scumread on them before! probs scum" and that's that.

That is still at odds with your stated opinion of Elyse being smooth as scum and doesn't explain away why this isn't NAI.

If she's smooth ass scum!Elyse, why would she pick one of the worst possible people in the game to antagonize her first (real) vote?

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:22 pm

In post 603, dramonic wrote:
vote: Camn

I am offended you put me in the same pool as Hippo and Jalapeno Zito >:(

Look at hiplop!

Seriously!

Look at it!

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:49 pm

In post 606, camn wrote:Dram, et tu? I'm literally boarding a transpacific flight in 2 hours.

House, you can have my vote. Don't let me get lynched before Tuesday.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: hiplop

May blessings of Athena rain down upon thee.

Also camn, c am I saying I'll never vote her? No. I'm just not in any mood to roll the dice that she might be scum just to be wrong and remove one of our stronger town players on d1 FOR scum.

Think about this selfishly for a second. IF you three ARE all town, scum will need to NK within you because the chance one of you will bring them to their knees is good, but if you all clear each other, those odds increase exponentially.

So, it is in town's best interest to give y'all a day and night to get your slapfighting done so you can step back and look at the game objectively and say, even if they ARE scum, who ELSE is scum?

That way, we can maximize the information gained when we DO have town flips within my awesome sauce block.

Clear as mud?

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:57 pm

Sigh.

Fine.

I'll read it tonight. Still hopping around atm.

House · Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:59 pm

I take it all back.

I hate you.

House · Post Post #615 (isolation #134) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:02 pm

In post 299, Elyse wrote:"feel free to disagree if you'd like" pings my scumdar. Shows too much uncertainty.

It's less than 300 posts into the game.

How much certainty would have been appropriate at that point in time?

House · Post Post #616 (isolation #135) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:03 pm

In post 299, Elyse wrote:More "there's nothing to work with!"

What made this scummy at the time it was posted?

House · Post Post #617 (isolation #136) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:05 pm

In post 299, Elyse wrote:This is just unnecessary. The jalapeno wagon wasn't ever going through so early. Nacho knows this.

How can you know it'd never go through so early?

I could see it happening for ~reasons~.

House · Post Post #618 (isolation #137) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:06 pm

In post 299, Elyse wrote:This reads as scum bewildered that his attempted buddying isn't working.

I believe she believes this. It's a fair assessment imho.

House · Post Post #619 (isolation #138) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:07 pm

In post 520, Elyse wrote:POST INCOMING WITHIN THE HOUR

GET PUMPED

(or don't cause it probably won't live up to your expectations)

This strikes me as town. And it's not even a wall post!

House · Post Post #620 (isolation #139) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:11 pm

In post 526, Elyse wrote:Notice that Spyrex called the Nacho wagon "boring" (not bad) and thinks it's legitimate enough to stick around until the end of the day.

Sounds to me like she's saying SpyreX is implying his opinion of the wagon is that it's legitimate but not eye catching.

Good cases can be boring, and this unconvincing. Ever work in sales? You can have the best product on the market, but you'll starve if you have Been Stein's voice and demeanor knocking on doors selling Kirbys.

House · Post Post #621 (isolation #140) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:17 pm

In post 526, Elyse wrote:
In post 320, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 299, Elyse wrote:The "I'd move onto something else but I don't have anything" reeks of Nacho wanting to get off kraska because he knows it's a shitty push (or whatever he's calling it) but has nowhere else to go.
This is a not so great premise based on what stage of the game it is currently. I can do whatever the hell I want at this point in the time because everyone who has played more than five games of mafia knows that currently the name of the game is throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. Arguing that I struggled to get off an RVS push (that no, wasn't a push more than it was questioning) is equivalent to me arguing that this case is you overcompensating because you wanted to separate yourself from your shitty House vote (which, just to be perfectly clear, is 100% an absolutely absurd argument).
By absurd argument are you talking about me saying you're struggling to get off your RVS vote or my House vote?

If it's the former, I think you kinda dug yourself into a hole there when you shrugged your shoulders and said you had nowhere else to go. If it's the latter, then why didn't you call it out earlier? As you said, RVS is mostly throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks. What was so "absurd" about what I said? I clearly missed the context because I didn't read the pregame thread at all but I don't see what's so crazy about my House vote.

@Nacho:

I can see her perspective on this, and you struck me as squirming under pressure when I originally skimmed it.

That stands.

@Elyse:

Read the sign up thread pre-hammer for clarity, if it hasn't been deleted. Miscommunication due to lack of familiarity led misunderstanding. I was worried about a repeat in game after I posted.

House · Post Post #622 (isolation #141) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:20 pm

In post 526, Elyse wrote:I think uncertainty was maybe the wrong word...scared? timid? It's like you were afraid to take a stance and had to add the "feel free to disagree" in there. You say it's a challenge but to me it looks more like you're not trying to take a stance.

@Nacho:

Although you did sound a bit unconvincing, it could be a playstyle thing, maybe.

@Elyse:

A bit reachy, but if you're town maybe that's why you can find scum and I second guess myself out of reads.

Idk.

House · Post Post #623 (isolation #142) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:22 pm

In post 526, Elyse wrote:I don't use meta much, sorry! When I see someone say "why did you misrep me" rather than "Cakez misrepped me, he's scum because of x or it's not alginment indicative because of y" (which you didn't do until I called you out), it's scummy.

*Eyes are glazing over*

House · Post Post #624 (isolation #143) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:23 pm

In post 526, Elyse wrote:I also know that trying to derail a nonserious wagon on page 12 on someone who has done nothing is scummy. Especially when you said you were disappointed by their entrance, apparently.

Fair point.

House · Post Post #626 (isolation #144) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:25 pm

In post 526, Elyse wrote:I just don't understand why you're giving the dwlee slot so many chances. "It's the beginning of the game, there's not much to go on" "I'm disappointed" "We shouldn't lynch jalapeno" "I didn't white knight you". All of their content is shitty/misrepping you and you seem fine with it.

I was a supporter of the wagon at the time too.

House · Post Post #627 (isolation #145) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:27 pm

In post 526, Elyse wrote:Saying that no one has done anything worth reading is scummy because there are certainly things that have happened at that point in time that are worth reading. Like your "push" on kraska. Or the wagon on jalapeno. Or your interaction with Cakez.

By this point in this post, I'm thinking Elyse needs to drop her vote like it's hot and find something else to poke.

Not saying why. Just reasons.

House · Post Post #628 (isolation #146) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:29 pm

In post 526, Elyse wrote:I'm not saying it isn't dumb, but you're acting confused when a "dumb" response wouldn't elicit that type of reaction from you.

@Elyse:

Why can't unexpected stupidity confuse someone?

House · Post Post #629 (isolation #147) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:31 pm

In post 526, Elyse wrote:Why did you wait to make this vote?

It's also a terrible vote. On the same page (or around there) where you say that nothing noteworthy has happened and people are trying to throw shit that sticks, why is a "stretched" case so scummy?

Maybe he was giving you time to see stuff?

You're analytical... how did I see something you didn't?

House · Post Post #630 (isolation #148) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:33 pm

In post 526, Elyse wrote:This response feels icky to me. Like you're testing the waters and pushing the Nacho scumread all on me.

That's... actually a fair point.

House · Post Post #631 (isolation #149) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:36 pm

For the love of mafia gods can I please stop now?

House · Post Post #633 (isolation #150) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:49 pm

In post 632, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: Dramonic

Seriously? Are you really not seeing hiplop's contributions to the game?

VOTE

*hops into thread*

Hi!

-plop-

UNVOTE

*hops out of thread*

Living up to his name, he is.

House · Post Post #641 (isolation #151) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:06 pm

I refuse to support the lynches of:

Nacho
camn
Elyse
SirCakez

For d1. Unless they like, straight up confess, or something.

If you want my vote, vote hiplop or convince me that somebody outside those four have actually managed to outscum him.

House · Post Post #642 (isolation #152) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:07 pm

In post 639, SpyreX wrote:Elyse is considered a strong player y/n

That probably depends on who you ask.

House · Post Post #643 (isolation #153) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:08 pm

In post 638, camn wrote:In other news, Spyrex is NOT in my townbloc.

Spy- if you are scum, you should know this. I have a pretty large surprise up my sleeve for you this game. Bigger than the bomb I was gonna drop in FF9 if I hadn't been murdered. Well... Not quite that big. But big.
So put on your brown pants.

And you wonder why you eat nk on n1.

House · Post Post #645 (isolation #154) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:21 pm

In post 644, Papa Zito wrote:jfc this spam is unbelievable

recent camn posts are even worse gg no re let's get this done

Thank Nacho.

I don't respond to walls with walls.

House · Post Post #649 (isolation #155) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:27 pm

In post 646, Papa Zito wrote:No your posting is your own don't even start with me

Hey while I have your attention

I still wanna know what's substantially different between Hiplop and Jalapeno

Spicy is at least letting us know about r/l demands, for one thing.

hiplop is just a snoozefest unless he starts getting pressure.

Turn up the heat and watch him pop like a kernel.

House · Post Post #652 (isolation #156) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:29 pm

In post 646, Papa Zito wrote:No your posting is your own don't even start with me

LOOK AT MY POSTS.

I begged Nacho not to make me do it.

I'm a phone poster. I'm NOT dissecting and rebuilding a multiquoted nightmare on this little screen with one finger.

Just... no.

House · Post Post #654 (isolation #157) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:30 pm

In post 651, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 649, House wrote:
In post 646, Papa Zito wrote:No your posting is your own don't even start with me

Hey while I have your attention

I still wanna know what's substantially different between Hiplop and Jalapeno
Spicy is at least letting us know about r/l demands, for one thing.

hiplop is just a snoozefest unless he starts getting pressure.

Turn up the heat and watch him pop like a kernel.
dramonic's been a snoozefest with pressure
let's kill him bud

He's done more than hiplop.

Everybody on the roster has.

Even Spicy

House · Post Post #661 (isolation #158) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:36 pm

In post 656, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 649, House wrote:Spicy is at least letting us know about r/l demands, for one thing.

hiplop is just a snoozefest unless he starts getting pressure.

Turn up the heat and watch him pop like a kernel.

In post 541, Papa Zito wrote:Oh @Spyrex I've been monitoring hiplop's activity on the site (and elsewhere #secrets) for a while and it's been extremely low, hope that helps.
?

No but seriously. In-game content. Those two. Compare/contrast. What's the substantive difference. halp

Spicy has made double the posts of hiplop.

Hard to get more quantifiable than that.

hiplop was posting when he had a vote on him, and proofed out when I unvoted.

If it takes keeping a wagon on him to get something out of him, them we need to do that.

House · Post Post #662 (isolation #159) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:37 pm

In post 660, Postie wrote:VOTE: Elyse

Too much blind attacking, not enough thinking. I know she's capable of actually taking a step back and showing some element of *game-solving noises* and I'm not getting any of that here.

No.

Bad Postie.

Give her one night and attack her like a rabid Rottweiler tomorrow if you don't see improvement.

House · Post Post #671 (isolation #160) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:48 pm

In post 668, Papa Zito wrote:The problem is that I actually think House is town

But I can't wrap my head around this at all and he apparently can't articulate the thought behind it so I'm ????????????

If you really need to hear it, my hop off of Spicy was originally a gambit to get someone else comfortable with putting them at L-1.

Then I was gonna hammer that sucker home with glee.

Then his wagon disintegrated so I stayed put because he's Spicy 2.0.

House · Post Post #673 (isolation #161) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:54 pm

In post 663, Papa Zito wrote:House

You should probably take a break man

Sure.

I'll take my phone with me so I can keep posting, though.

House · Post Post #680 (isolation #162) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:59 pm

In post 674, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 671, House wrote:If you really need to hear it, my hop off of Spicy was originally a gambit to get someone else comfortable with putting them at L-1.

Then I was gonna hammer that sucker home with glee.

Then his wagon disintegrated so I stayed put because he's Spicy 2.0.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

this post does not compute

You've been actively defending Spicy the last few pages, don't tell me your gambit (and I do so love my gambits) has extended for this long despite that wagon being dead for ages?

I have NOT been defending him lol

House · Post Post #681 (isolation #163) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:00 pm

I've been defending my hop off out of habit cuz that shit started yesterday and I lost track tbh.

House · Post Post #682 (isolation #164) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:03 pm

Bring him to L-1 and I'll hammer, it's what I was waiting on that never happened.

People started talking about other shit and I got sidelined.

House · Post Post #688 (isolation #165) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:00 pm

In post 687, SpyreX wrote:I'm rereading this game because i hate myself.

House your ehhhhhh page 1 - it was at the scumteam not the wagon right please God

Not yours, sour grapes that mine didn't take off.

House · Post Post #696 (isolation #166) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:18 am

Bad Elyse wagon is bad.

House · Post Post #697 (isolation #167) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:24 am

Can we please lynch hiplop so we can also lynch Zito after he flips red?

House · Post Post #701 (isolation #168) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:38 am

In post 698, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 239, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 232, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:VOTE: Spicy

L-1

^ i thought this was a townpost tbqh

why do you think zito is scummy, house?

He admits to not seeing much activity from hiplop in #secrets, and he's defensive as hell of the slot.

Scum hippy = scum Zito

House · Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:22 am

In post 706, Ranmaru wrote:

Hello everyone. The Cactus is in, and he'll be catching up soon.

Welcome! Looking forward to it.

House · Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:52 pm

In post 711, Ranmaru wrote:House, can you give me more on why you have Elyse as town? I don't think you have given enough justification.

I haven't, because I don't.

Doesn't mean I'll support her lynch on d1.

House · Post Post #719 (isolation #171) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:41 pm

I'm liking Ranmaru a lot better than the previous slot owner.

VOTE: Spicy

I can still get behind this, idk why the wagon fell apart.

Ran's case on Postie is also interesting.

House · Post Post #724 (isolation #172) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:53 pm

In post 723, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:My issue, I think, is that I have way too many townreads and just need to lower my standards.

Wouldn't lowering your standards give you

more

townreads?

House · Post Post #729 (isolation #173) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:01 pm

In post 725, Ranmaru wrote:I don't see the reason to let either of Elyse or Camn live today. How has your read on Nacho developed?

I sheeped Elyse because I was reading her as town for her ballsy move on Nacho and taking him on 1v1.

Nacho made some decent points later on and I lost faith in my townread of Elyse, and subsequently her case on Nacho.

That said, I'm not a fan of lynching Elyse d1. You can have my vote on her if she doesn't town the fuck up by d2, though.

House · Post Post #738 (isolation #174) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:26 pm

In post 710, Ranmaru wrote:
Scumreads
:

Postie scum [Acting town, fake reads, takes long to push anyone] (no reason to ask that, it was a good question)(#22, #147, #196 > #263, #226,#247, #278, #316, #333, #336, 369, #370, #422, #425) Good point #186, #458 , #660, feels like it took her a while to get around to this vote

This is a perspective that I believe this Day has been missing.

It seems like Postie has been riding an easy townread, and the set of fresh eyes may have caught onto something in catch-up that we missed in the moment.

A couple exceptions I take to the case:

186: How is that a good point? Cakez clearly pointed out that he'd reevaluate based on the flip, not like he was lining lynches or anything.

458: If Postie is scum, this suggests Spicy town.

VOTE: Postie

Let us see where zis goes.

House · Post Post #753 (isolation #175) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:52 pm

I'm feeling pretty good about Cakez being town and think theory disagreement is shaky ground to scumread someone on.

House · Post Post #758 (isolation #176) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:59 pm

In post 755, Ranmaru wrote:Not scumreading her based on theory disagreement. Scumread remains the same.

I wasn't saying you were, I was posting about Cakez and those who are casting shade on him over an unpopular belief.

Doesn't matter if we agree or even if his belief is provably suboptimal. All that matters is whether he genuinely believes it.

House · Post Post #766 (isolation #177) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:10 pm

In post 763, SpyreX wrote:Sup ran glad to see you're town. I'll give this real reading tonight.

I dont think? Id be opposed to postie but since its illegal to lynch the lurkaderps im pretty ok with elyse

I vetoed the Elyse lynch. Nacho thinks he can override my decree, but my logic is undeniable.

House · Post Post #781 (isolation #178) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:12 pm

In post 773, kraska77 wrote:
In post 569, House wrote:
In post 566, kraska77 wrote:
In post 332, House wrote:I kinda like Nacho's responses, tbh.

In post 530, House wrote:Parse results: Elyse is town.

VOTE: Nacho

In post 419, camn wrote: c) not sold on nacho-scum

In post 531, camn wrote:k. Lets see.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: nachomamma

*holds pitchfork* so...u 2 explain whats going on here pls
Elyse is town

I trust town!Elyse more than my own reads unless I have some condemning evidence. Just reading people, not all that great at and Elyse has impressed me in the past.
I'm not talking about elyse
I'm talking about your nacho vote
You said you liked his responses before, so did you see something different in his recent posts to change your mind?

Keep reading that post until it makes sense.

House · Post Post #784 (isolation #179) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:59 pm

In post 783, Papa Zito wrote:grumpgrump

y halo thar Ran glad you made it in

Postie is town guys FTR sorry to burst your bubble there.

Once she flips scum, I'm rubbing this post in your face so hard.

House · Post Post #788 (isolation #180) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:23 am

In post 787, SpicyJalapeñoKnocks wrote:I just did
~Dwlee

And you wonder why people want you dead?

House · Post Post #792 (isolation #181) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:53 am

In post 791, Ranmaru wrote:House, can you tell me your read on Giga?

Long answer will have to wait, but short and sweet version is she's scum.

House · Post Post #793 (isolation #182) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:54 am

No wait, town.

Derp, it's early and I need caffeine.

House · Post Post #795 (isolation #183) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:57 am

In post 794, Ranmaru wrote:Lol. Yeah it's early here too just woke up. Fair.

Haven't been to bed yet.

Just as bad.

House · Post Post #797 (isolation #184) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:16 am

In post 796, Ranmaru wrote:You should take a break. Rest is Best.

I'll be in thread later.

Sleep is a luxury I can't afford.

House · Post Post #799 (isolation #185) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:34 am

In post 798, SpyreX wrote:Ran is elyse town.

If no, get on the train please lord i beg of thee

Nowai.

House · Post Post #802 (isolation #186) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:51 am

In post 801, kraska77 wrote:
In post 781, House wrote:Keep reading that post until it makes sense
This is like the 4th time i ask u sth and u reply to me with farts

*fart*

House · Post Post #808 (isolation #187) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:44 am

In post 807, kraska77 wrote:
In post 729, House wrote:
In post 725, Ranmaru wrote:I don't see the reason to let either of Elyse or Camn live today. How has your read on Nacho developed?

I sheeped Elyse
because I was reading her as town for her ballsy move on Nacho and taking him on 1v1.

Nacho made some decent points later on and I lost faith in my townread of Elyse, and subsequently her case on Nacho.

That said, I'm not a fan of lynching Elyse d1. You can have my vote on her if she doesn't town the fuck up by d2, though.
THEN WHY DID YOU VOTE NACHO RATHER THAN ELYSE
You don't think elyse is town, and you don't want her lynched today bc moonlogic...okay...but why did you end up voting nacho then
What is your read on nacho I wanna know

Keep reading it, you still haven't figured out what I'm saying.

This is sad.

House · Post Post #811 (isolation #188) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:51 am

In post 810, SpicyJalapeñoKnocks wrote:
In post 809, kraska77 wrote:
In post 785, SpicyJalapeñoKnocks wrote:I think house is being dumb
~Dwlee
Same
And hi dwleee
Reads on postie and elyse?
Scum and null.

You should vote her then.

House · Post Post #813 (isolation #189) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:54 am

And we're off to the races!

House · Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:43 am

In post 830, Elyse wrote:VOTE: camn

Everyone has her as a scumread but no one's putting a vote there. That's usually a good sign that person is scum.

Everyone?

I could see scum doing it, but town? Hope could they do such a thing with any amount of regulatory that results in predictable behavior?

If it were that easy, wouldn't winning be as simple as asking oneself, "Who is scum that i don't want to vote?"?

House · Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:44 am

In post 834, House wrote:
In post 830, Elyse wrote:VOTE: camn

Everyone has her as a scumread but no one's putting a vote there. That's usually a good sign that person is scum.
Everyone?

I could see scum doing it, but town? How could they do such a thing with any amount of regulatory that results in predictable behavior?

If it were that easy, wouldn't winning be as simple as asking oneself, "Who is scum that i don't want to vote?"?

EBWOP.

House · Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:44 am

In post 834, House wrote:
In post 830, Elyse wrote:VOTE: camn

Everyone has her as a scumread but no one's putting a vote there. That's usually a good sign that person is scum.
Everyone?

I could see scum doing it, but town? Hope could they do such a thing with any amount of regularity that results in predictable behavior?

If it were that easy, wouldn't winning be as simple as asking oneself, "Who is scum that i don't want to vote?"?

Sigh. X2

House · Post Post #880 (isolation #193) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:28 pm

In post 841, Ranmaru wrote:House talk to me about your Elyse town read.

Why do you keep asking me this?

House · Post Post #882 (isolation #194) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:45 pm

In post 881, Ranmaru wrote:Right now I'm re-evaluating her and want your opinion since you seem to have played with her before. Just want to know your thoughts on what I'm saying.

If

town, she's a very good asset that is better to leave scum to nk rather than do their job for them.

It's foolish to paranoia vote the best players (Elyse, Nacho, camn) on the first day of the game because you are assisting scum if you're wrong. (And I have zero faith in the accuracy of d1 lynches)

That's why I have been avoiding criticizing their play as much as possible toDay.

House · Post Post #888 (isolation #195) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:00 pm

In post 886, Ranmaru wrote:I'm looking for understanding and to see where your head is at.

Now you have it.

House · Post Post #889 (isolation #196) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:01 pm

In post 886, Ranmaru wrote:I don't intend to vote anyone out of paranoia.

It's d1, ALL d1 lynches are fueled by paranoia and assumptions.

House · Post Post #890 (isolation #197) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:03 pm

In post 886, Ranmaru wrote:I feel we'd be in an extended D1 if we let the kill resolve who we are worried about and go from there.

That's twisting what I said, kinda.

It's not like I'm sitting here refusing to vote at all. Of course we need to stretch a neck, but let's not lubricate the gallows with our Sherlocks just out of some sense of necessity.

House · Post Post #891 (isolation #198) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:07 pm

If it helps at all, of my DNL list, I would vote Nacho if push came to shove.

He put a lot of work into derailing that Spicy wagon and I don't see how he as town could be so certain Spicy isn't scum.

House · Post Post #895 (isolation #199) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:12 pm

In post 894, Postie wrote:
In post 891, House wrote:I don't see how he as town could be so certain Spicy isn't scum
The amount of times I've been called scum for this

It's not a thing.

It's day one.

ONE.

And it's not like they've given anything to townread them on.

Did you have an actual point, or is that just ghosts of butthurt past talking?